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The Book of Mormon, like the Bible, contains a record of God’s dealings with a part of the House of Israel. It contains prophecies of Christ and also reveals how Christ, after his resurrection and ascension into heaven, later ministered to those who had waited for him in the New World. The Book of Mormon was anciently abridged by a prophet named Mormon and was engraved on gold plates, to preserve the sacred writing for a future time.

Joseph Smith received the divine commission to translate the gold plates through the power of God. The translation was published in 1830 as a volume of scripture, a sacred record.

We invite all people everywhere to read the Book of Mormon, to ponder in their hearts the message it contains, and then to ask God, the Eternal Father, in the name of Christ, if the book is true. Those who pursue this course and ask in faith will gain a testimony of its truth and divinity by the power of the Holy Ghost.

Those who gain this divine witness from the Holy Spirit will also come to know by the same power that Jesus Christ is the Savior of the world, that Joseph Smith is his revelator and prophet in these last days, and that The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints is the Lord’s kingdom once again established on the earth, preparatory to the second coming of the Messiah.

“The Book of Mormon is true, just what it purports to be, and for this testimony I expect to give an account in the Day of Judgment.” (Encyclopedia, 86-87) – Joseph Smith, Jr.

11,595 Responses to “How Joseph Smith Wrote the Book of Mormon”

  1. moparmonster1965 Says:

    [..YouTube..] I’m not asking the church’s official policy or opinion is on anything. I’m talking to you, not the church proper.

    I don’t really care what you accept because the JOD calls itself scripture but the church has to distance itself from them because they’re embarassing to the church as it now pretends to be Christian.

  2. moparmonster1965 Says:

    [..YouTube..] I have nothing to fear from you. You can’t prove your position or that I lied about anything; all hollow accusations.

    And since you can’t prove me wrong, you once again resort to insults. Same song, same lyrics.

  3. imtherealthing Says:

    [..YouTube..] @moparmonster1965

    YOu can speculate as much as you want..the OFFICIAL doctrine is what we follow..no matter what you say or anyone else…men are entitled to thier own OPINIONS – that is GOd given..even for prophets….as we see that Paul believed women should stay silent in church..or have long hair..or that the church fathers held thier own opinions..When a prophet speaks as a prophet..and it is FROM the LORD <–EMPHASIS..and THEN CANONIZED – it is OFFICIAL DOCTRINE – PERIOD..not OPINION

  4. imtherealthing Says:

    [..YouTube..] @moparmonster1965

    The JOD was “NEVER REVELATION”..another LIE..see..stop distorting LDS theology with your lies.

  5. imtherealthing Says:

    [..YouTube..] @moparmonster1965

    hmm..I guess you must have blocked me..how immature..so that is why you haven’t been getiong my videos or e-mails I have sent for the last few weeks. Did you block me?..got lots of goodies for you to watch and read..all that supporting my positions..what are you SCARED of?..the TRUTH?…it is much btter than your lies…embrace TRUTH..don’t run from it..it makes you smart..we want to fix you..you need to become smarter..more educated and INFORMED

  6. moparmonster1965 Says:

    [..YouTube..] ‘It would be altogether gratuitous and uncalled for, on our part, to write a commendatory preface to the discourses of the First Presidency and Twelve Apostles of this Church. To the Saints their words are as the words of God, their teachings fraught with heavenly wisdom, and their directions leading to salvation and eternal lives.” (JOD Vol 4 preface, comments from ‘The Publisher.’

  7. moparmonster1965 Says:

    [..YouTube..] ‘The JOD deservedly ranks as one of the standard works fothe church, and every rightminded Saint will certainly welcome with joy every Number as it comes forth from the press as an adiitional reflector of’ ‘light that shines from Zion hill.’” JOD Vol 8 preface.)

  8. moparmonster1965 Says:

    [..YouTube..] Official doctrine is whatever the church feels will put them in the best possible light, shedding polygamy and denail of blacks ti the priesthood when they became inconvenient.

  9. moparmonster1965 Says:

    [..YouTube..] I’m not scared of anything you have to offer, but I don’t need you spamming my account.

    Your truth is based on a lot of assumptions, none of which are grounded in reality. You accuse me of cut ‘n pasting and sending me videos ad nauseum is exactly the same thing.

  10. imtherealthing Says:

    [..YouTube..] @moparmonster1965

    Ah the DEVIL ONCE AGAIN..quoting the JOD as official LDS theology when he knows it is not..the DEVIL and his decietful ways…the master of twisting and deciving people by LIES

  11. imtherealthing Says:

    [..YouTube..] @moparmonster1965

    RE: the church picks and chooses thier doctrine…lol

    Ah the “expert” on LDS theology (NOT)…lol..once again truly believes he knows how revelation in our church works….lol..you keep proving yourself for the FRAUD you are….NEVER did at ANY TIME (even in BY’s time) did the JOD get included in our scriptures..moron..if they had been considered revelation at one time..they would have been canonized -and they were NOT <–that is your DILEMMA…lol

  12. imtherealthing Says:

    [..YouTube..] @moparmonster1965

    I don’t care if you”spam” my e-mail..because I do NOT fear your lies..I love to CONFRONT them and prove that you are a liar and deciever to those who may be reading these comments you post..and so far I have in every case…liar and deciever..as just the RECENT posts below can verify..as ALL those below them buried deep on this video that any can read for themselves…you are of you father..you love darkness more than light and thus seek to TWIST the Lord’s truth..

  13. imtherealthing Says:

    [..YouTube..] @moparmonster1965

    You do “copy and paste” from anti-mormon sites..that’s VERY obvious to any who have delt with and read all the anti-lit out there..and believe me..I have…yet here I am a Latter-Day Saint. I see through thier manipulations and lies. I INVESTIGATE them thouroughly and they ALWAYS come out as what I have always claimed..LIES!!..where do lies come from I ask? – NOT the Lord – pretty simple test of whose side these men are on who do this..so simple..to know whose side I am on.

  14. imtherealthing Says:

    [..YouTube..] @moparmonster1965

    You see..you can go out and buy an EXTENSIVE library of LDS themed books and that will not help you..like I said…only the scriptures are REVELATION – everything outside of that is just SPECUALTION..and does not save nor come from the Lord. They are OPINIONS…lol..poor morpar…poor..poor..morpar:

    2 Tim. 3: 7
    Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.

  15. imtherealthing Says:

    [..YouTube..] @moparmonster1965

    2 Nephi 33:14-15

    14 And you that will not partake of the goodness of God, and respect the words of the Jews, and also my words, and the words which shall proceed forth out of the mouth of the Lamb of God, behold, I bid you an everlasting farewell, for these words shall ccondemn you at the last day.
    15 For what I seal on earth, shall be brought against you at the judgment bar; for thus hath the Lord commanded me, and I must obey. Amen.

  16. imtherealthing Says:

    [..YouTube..] @moparmonster1965

    Book of Mormon
    2 Nephi 33:5

    5 And it speaketh harshly against sin, according to the plainness of the truth; wherefore, no man will be angry at the words which I have written save he shall be of the spirit of the devil.

  17. imtherealthing Says:

    [..YouTube..] @moparmonster1965

    RE: your PERCEPTION of the Lord’s workings (i.e. “shedding polygamy,etc..)

    LOL..ah how foolish you are to THINK YOU know the mind of the LORD. YOU DARE to question the LORD’s workings? YOU PIT your rebeliious WILL against the LORD thnnking you know how things should have been handled..right?

    I’m sure you would have done the same with any of the OTHER commandments the LORD gave and took away (the Lord giveth and taketh..) ie – He gave us the NT it superceded the OT

  18. imtherealthing Says:

    [..YouTube..] @moparmonster1965

    As with any other revelation..the LORD..not YOU decides when to give and to take away.

    The Lord gave Moses commandments – the people rejected them (thus rejecting the LORD’s will) – the Lord tookaway those commandments and gave a lower law – the ten commandments.

  19. imtherealthing Says:

    [..YouTube..] @moparmonster1965

    Another example:
    1 Sam. 10: 19
    And ye have this day rejected your God, who himself saved you…ye have said unto him, Nay, but set a king over us.

    The people did not want the Lord to be thier King they wanted a king instead.
    The WORLD rejected the Lord’s revelation (polygamy) as with those who did not want the Lord to be their King – the world lost out on a higher law ..the commandments the Lord gives are not JUST for his saints..but they are for the enitre world

  20. pulsipd Says:

    [..YouTube..] No actually I’m here to get some entertainment value from watching people like you tie yourself in knots over your religious doctrine.

  21. imtherealthing Says:

    [..YouTube..] @pulsipd

    Oh really?..show me where this happens?

  22. pulsipd Says:

    [..YouTube..] Oh I don’t need to argue doctrine with you. I’m actually over Mormonism, having been resigned for some time now. I just enjoy reading this stuff for fun.

  23. pulsipd Says:

    [..YouTube..] The theory of evolution being true means there was no Adam and Eve, so arguing doctrine with you is like arguing over the Earth being flat vs. it being round. Its a waste of my time. I don’t need the Mormon Jesus to save me from a spiritual fall since it never happened.

  24. pulsipd Says:

    [..YouTube..] So I enjoy watching you defend your silly prophets “speaking as men” with racism, the lies told about how native Americans are Lamanites when in fact they are Asians, how “reformed Egyptian” doesn’t exist, Egyptian funeral facsimiles can be mistranslated, and how anachronisms in the BoM are really just items that can mutate and change at the
    will of an LDS apologist.

  25. pulsipd Says:

    [..YouTube..] But hey, if denying reality and science in your life floats your boat, good luck with that. I guess the warm fuzzy is all you need right ?

  26. imtherealthing Says:

    [..YouTube..] @bballcardcollector09

    Again..you are no academic..to just postulate that you knew I had no kowledge of Free Masonry is very telling of not only your bigotry but your inability to argue by claiming to know what your opponent “thinks”..now that is real academic deduction..lol..I’m laughing my head off at how you liars try so hard to pass yourselves off as being intelligent…lol..oh please.

  27. imtherealthing Says:

    [..YouTube..] @bballcardcollector09

    I therefore PROVE you are a FRAUD…someone who is university educated knows that when you write a paper..you need to state your argument then you need to give your opponents view and then you argue your opponents position – THAT is how one debates and argues – so using that model..I will take just ONe of your arguements you posted: please demonstrate how Jospeh Smith was a “money digger”..that is your claim..now cite our defense..then argue against that

  28. bballcardcollector09 Says:

    [..YouTube..] sure, but this is youtube, i never claimed to be writing you an essay did i? if i did by your critieria, all your statements would be deemed not worthy

  29. bballcardcollector09 Says:

    [..YouTube..] so you deny that joseph smith was a money digger when he found the “golden tablets” huh okay sure i’m prove to you he was a money digger.

  30. imtherealthing Says:

    [..YouTube..] @bballcardcollector09

    Well FRAUD..where is your arguement? I guess that “google” isn’t really there for you when it requires actual THINKING…lol..well I await your reply to my question.

    While i do so..here is one for you:

    Where does one find the words “essence” or “substance” in the Bible…your answer to that (your defense) is that it is found in the creeds..well..here is your dilemma – that is an extra-biblical extrapolation – that means you interpret INTO the bible your theology

  31. executionerofgod Says:

    [..YouTube..] do you realize that youre arguing with a bumbling idiot whose only goal is to troll here day after day and relies on fideism? is it not obvious that joe smith was a charlatan? imtherealthing’s goal is not to win an argument but to keep an argument going. this is how he “gets a life” and amuses himself from one day to another.

  32. imtherealthing Says:

    [..YouTube..] @bballcardcollector09

    RE: my “statements would be deemed not worthy”

    LOL..really?..and you can prove that?..all I hear is your OPINION – with No FACTS to back them..tell me AGAIN how you THINk you are a holder of a Masters Degree?…lol

  33. imtherealthing Says:

    [..YouTube..] @bballcardcollector09

    Please do PROVE he was a “Money Digger”..give citations please…lol..this will be fun…you do know what counts as AUTHENTIC RESEARCH right?..I mean you claim to be academic..well we shall see by your citations..whether they will be PRIMARY SOURCES or just anti-mormon sources…lol

  34. bballcardcollector09 Says:

    [..YouTube..] i said, by your criteria you gave me that it would have to be in such and such format that your statements are deemed not worthy. I didn’t say they weren’t worthy, i said by your said standards. But you go to college, you study theology, give me a break… lol x 1,000,000,000. of course you can write comments how you want but i need to do so in eassy format for you. lol.

  35. imtherealthing Says:

    [..YouTube..] @executionerofgod

    “fideism”..ROFL!!!..wow..how long did it take you to look up that big word..that must have hurt your little brain..so ATHEIST..why do you keep coming back?..you want God to prove to you HIS truth?..not going to work..lol..guess all those “theories” you BELIEVE in isn’t satisfying huh?..life with theories..must be a pleasant way to live by…hope it fullfills your needs…lol

  36. imtherealthing Says:

    [..YouTube..] @bballcardcollector09

    Who talks of “essays” when they are working on a masters?…hmmm..lol

    Last I recall speaking in terms of “essays” harkens back to my high school years.

  37. imtherealthing Says:

    [..YouTube..] @bballcardcollector09

    So far all i hear is..O.P.I.N.I.O.N…no FACTS..well where are they?..citations please.

  38. AmIWhiteYet Says:

    [..YouTube..] @executionerofgod
    I don’t mind his tendency to keep an argument going. It gives me an opportunity to laugh at his self-righteous loathing and condescension, portraying anyone who doesn’t buy into Mormonism as an evil puppet for Satan.

    BWAHAHAHA!

  39. imtherealthing Says:

    [..YouTube..] @AmIWhiteYet

    Ah..another fool..welcome..so do you also believe in a 3-headed god?..or are you yet another “theory” believing athiest?…lol

  40. bballcardcollector09 Says:

    [..YouTube..] here you go imthereathing

    Joseph Smith admitted himself to being a money digger. This is recorded in the History of the Church, volume 3 (1838-1839). Also recorded in the LDS publication, the Elder’s Journal, vol. 1, num. 2, pp. 28-29.

  41. AmIWhiteYet Says:

    [..YouTube..] @imtherealthing
    Flag on the field! False assumption by imtherealthing of the Mormon team. 5 yard penalty. Repeat 3rd down…
    I believe in God, and his perfection contrary to the Mormon God who is constantly changing and having his leaders lie for him in the process.
    Play your cards right and I’ll show you some of my favorite “lying for the Lord” highlights.

  42. imtherealthing Says:

    [..YouTube..] @bballcardcollector09

    Baloney..LOL..I love how you quote something you have no personal access to..lol..you just demonstrated you are a FRAUD. Google is NOT your friend..ROFL!!!..I love it when you fools DEPEND on GOOGLE for your “research”…lol

    Do you know what PRIMARY SOURCES are?..go read up on that..then go look at and read that source you quote..then ask yourself..who wrote this..is it quoted correctly and what is the CONTEXT…lol..my side hurts…ROFL!!!…”google academics”…lol

  43. bballcardcollector09 Says:

    [..YouTube..] to tell you the truth, when i was working on my master’s we called them essays. and i have hence graduated several years ago. why are you making fun of technicalities, we are discussing eternity here???

  44. executionerofgod Says:

    [..YouTube..] you hit the nail on the head! AM I WHITE YET?

    let me guess. you tried to live a righteous life , as has most of you brethren and forefathers, but you still are cursed with non white skin? me too. lol.

    have native americans turned white yet? or do dey still be red? mormon puke spew is total and utter nonsense

  45. imtherealthing Says:

    [..YouTube..] @AmIWhiteYet

    Ok..so we established you believe in a god..do you believe in the TRINITY as taught by the councils of Nicea?

  46. imtherealthing Says:

    [..YouTube..] @bballcardcollector09

    “technicalities”?..oh please..I have NEVER heard of Graduates speaking of essays..NEVER…you are a fruad..and don’t speak to me about being an academic..one who depends on “google” for his sources has no masters degree.

    Save your concern for my salvation. Think of your own slavation..as liars have no salvation…you are a liar…satan lies and you follow him when you lie.

  47. AmIWhiteYet Says:

    [..YouTube..] @imtherealthing
    No. Do you believe a prophet can lie about something God has revealed or give a false revelation and still be a prophet?

  48. bballcardcollector09 Says:

    [..YouTube..] these are primary sources, go look them up if you are into truth. if you really aren’t then don’t… its up to you.

  49. imtherealthing Says:

    [..YouTube..] @executionerofgod

    RE: your ignorant rmark on turning white

    A PERFECT example of ignorance has not yet been demonstrated as per you quoting an old anti-mormon perception on a very clear teaching…nowhere in our scriptures do we say skin “CHANGES” based on righteousness…you like other anti-mormons take out of context the pure(white) and delightsome reference.

  50. imtherealthing Says:

    [..YouTube..] @bballcardcollector09

    These are NOT PRIMARY SORUCES..go read it

  51. imtherealthing Says:

    [..YouTube..] @moparmonster1965

    LOl..keep hiding behind your lies and your parrot talk…you keep repeating yourself in hopes of avoding the TRUTH…you have been proven a liar and deciever over and over again…go say your prayers to your god satan..perhaps he will grant you a way to try to overcome the TRUTH…NOT!!!…lol

  52. moparmonster1965 Says:

    [..YouTube..] Since your standard of proof is exceedingly low, you don’t have a leg to stand on since you’ve proven nothing.

    Now answer the question.

  53. imtherealthing Says:

    [..YouTube..] @moparmonster1965

    nice try liar..all can see you for your deceptions..they are all recorded below..and we also learn that we shall also have these words recorded in heaven..you are in very big trouble morpar…your lies will be EXPOSED as we know that all our sins will be exposed before HIM..you can’t run from the TRUTH..it will get you in the end…LIAR.

  54. AmIWhiteYet Says:

    [..YouTube..] @imtherealthing
    Well if words are recorded in heaven, then Joseph Smith, Brigham Young, John Taylor, and Wilford Woodruff are in big doo-doo!
    Joseph Smith lied about practicing polygamy
    Brigham Young lied when he said Adam is God, and anyone who mixes with blacks should die. John Taylor lied about Mormons not practicing polygamy on his mission when he already had 8 wives.
    Woodruff lied about the church ceasing polygamy when he sanctioned marriages the next day and took another wife himself.

  55. pulsipd Says:

    [..YouTube..] Thank you for reminding me once again why I no longer attend church with pious condescending assholes like you sir. :)

    No I didn’t leave so I could sin, don’t you wish that was true. It couldn’t possibly be because your church just does not stand up to a rigorous inspection of its history and doctrine.

    And you can slam scientific theories all you want, but your posts display that obvious ignorance I see all the time in regard to evolution so I see its a waste talking to you about it.

  56. imtherealthing Says:

    [..YouTube..] @AmIWhiteYet

    Abram (Abraham) lied about his wife being his wife, Moses lied and took credit for drawing water from a rock when it was the Lord who gave him that ability, Peter Lied when he was asked if he knew the Lord, etc..the list goes on..just thought I would continue the list for you…lol..so I guess all those men had to LIE in those situations for the greater good then?..I don’t know..but I do know one thing…God knew their heart and GOD accepted them as his servants. ;)

  57. imtherealthing Says:

    [..YouTube..] @pulsipd

    “condescending a******* ” nice language athiest…I see your new religion has really made a better human being of you..or was this really you and you picked athiesm to support the type of person you are..I’m guessing that be the case..yes..run along little atheist..enjoy your “theories” ;)

  58. imtherealthing Says:

    [..YouTube..] @pulsipd

    Caught the virus you tried to send me..nice try..FAIL ;)

  59. AmIWhiteYet Says:

    [..YouTube..] @imtherealthing

    Perhaps, but their is a distinction between them and your latter-day prophets. In those cases, they didn’t lead God’s people astray. In the case of Joseph Smith, Brigham Young, and Wilford Woodruff, they most definitely did.

  60. pulsipd Says:

    [..YouTube..] Um, I didn’t send you a virus.

  61. imtherealthing Says:

    [..YouTube..] @AmIWhiteYet

    RE: prophets of old and prophets of today

    The ONLY distiniction between them that exists is in your presuppositions and OPINION. No FACTS…just as the Pharisees and Saducees argued that Jesus and his apostles were not who they claimed they were (some said Jesus had a devil..others imprisoned the apostles on the same charge leveled at them as you and your kind do today).

  62. imtherealthing Says:

    [..YouTube..] @AmIWhiteYet

    Your kind have been around since the begining of time – you are those who persecute the prophets and crucify Christ afresh…you are of your father satan…the father of lies and murderer of prophets and Christ.

  63. imtherealthing Says:

    [..YouTube..] @AmIWhiteYet

    Acts 7:51-53
    Ye STIFFNECKED and uncircumcised IN HEART and EARS, YE DO ALWAYS RESIST the HOLY GHOST: as your fathers did, so do ye.

    Which of the PROPHETS have not your fathers persecuted? and they have slain them which shewed before of the coming of the Just One; of whom ye have been now the betrayers and murderers:

    Who have received the law BY the disposition of ANGELS, and have not kept it.

  64. imtherealthing Says:

    [..YouTube..] @AmIWhiteYet

    Acts 7:54

    When they heard these things, they were cut to the heart, and they gnashed on him with their teeth.

  65. AmIWhiteYet Says:

    [..YouTube..] @imtherealthing
    “Your kind have been around since the begining of time”.
    You mean those of us brave enough to stand up and point out a false prophet with their lies and ridiculous claims, no matter how loud their drones get irate and scream otherwise? You finally got one right! Thanks!

  66. imtherealthing Says:

    [..YouTube..] @AmIWhiteYet

    No I made it PRETTY CLEAR. I was comparing you to those who have persecuted the Lord’s servants and who also persecuted the LORD himself..there is no twisting of my words on this one..as I just RE-STATED my position and clarify it here again – you are like those wicked men and women who have done this since the beginiing of time…read the Bible you claim to be acquainted with..if you have..you know that has always been the case – satan fights with all his might against the Lord

  67. AmIWhiteYet Says:

    [..YouTube..] @imtherealthing
    You know nothing of persecution, as such, I suggest you get off the cross. Your thinking is so warped into Mormonism, that there’s no distinction in your mind between you and your church. It’s pitiful.
    BTW, I’m not persecuting Jesus as Mormonism isn’t his church, just the workings of a treasure-hunter, con-man and sexual predator who realized he like the Japanese prior to WWII could get more obedient drones by saying their God commanded it.

  68. Claydoh01 Says:

    [..YouTube..] Lies and false teachings can be demonically inspired, therefore, leading sheep astray.

  69. AmIWhiteYet Says:

    [..YouTube..] God warns about trusting the arm of flesh because personal testimony is the least reliable. Mormonism is built on a testimony like JS’s final first vision account (the last of 9 each one varying), the testimony of the 3 and 8 witnesses. Who were simply given a prepared statement and told to sign. People bearing testimony about how they “know its true” when belief has never been knowledge. It seems compelling and convinces the testifier further that its true (insufficient justification effect)

  70. Claydoh01 Says:

    [..YouTube..] You claim to be Christians, yet the Lord’s WORD is not what you read. Jesus is GODS only begotten Son. His testimony is what the Christian faith is based upon. Christ in the ONLY true way!

  71. bballcardcollector09 Says:

    [..YouTube..] Study Joseph Smith. Read the Mormon written book In Sacred Loneliness available on amazon which accurately tells of Joseph Smiths womanizing ways with facts about his 33 wives, 10 of whom were under 18, several of whom were married. He married wives without letting his other wives know. This is written by a believing Mormon Mr. Compton.

  72. moparmonster1965 Says:

    [..YouTube..] I haven’t been exposed because I’m not hiding anything.

    Answer the question: how did words of vernacular origin get into the word-for-word ‘translation’ of the BOM?

  73. moparmonster1965 Says:

    [..YouTube..] I see you got completely off the question you couldn’t answer as soon as I got offline last evening.

    So where is that mention of a second, third, fourth, of fifth Hill Cumorah?

  74. moparmonster1965 Says:

    [..YouTube..] So where are the other Hill Cumorahs mentioned in the BOM?

  75. moparmonster1965 Says:

    [..YouTube..] Since you’re so big on calling others liars, why not include yourself and this education you claim to have? No one at your alleged education level should be expressing themselves so poorly.

    This clearly indicates that you claim to be educated to give yourself a moral superiority over the rest of us, which hasn’t worked up to this point.

  76. imtherealthing Says:

    [..YouTube..] @Claydoh01

    I was refering to the scripture you quoted from Isaiah…you coniving devil..stop trying to twist things as devils do…now I gave you the answer to that…now are you still going to AVOID my direct questions to you?..are you going to keep trying to DIVERT from the issue we are discussing?

  77. imtherealthing Says:

    [..YouTube..] @Claydoh01

    Come on..stop trying to HIDE..the question was simple and DIRECT – does God have a body or is he just SPIRIT?..this will put everything into CONTEXT like you liars take out of context…well?

  78. Claydoh01 Says:

    [..YouTube..] How about your beliefs?

    You believe Satan and Jesus were spirit brother do you not? How then could he be GOD as well in your doctrine? Please explain this paradox.

    Please explain your magic undergarments.
    Please explain the changes in your doctrine. Do you not believe the Bible is GODS Word?

  79. imtherealthing Says:

    [..YouTube..] @Claydoh01

    Why is it so hard for devils like you to answer questions that are so easy to answer?

  80. imtherealthing Says:

    [..YouTube..] @Claydoh01

    ROFL!!!…ah the devil is trying like what the Pharisees and Saducees always tried to do…bury the saviour or his servants with other questions when they could not answer his/thier questions..but devil..you were asked a question..why will you not answer the question?..I know..because you lying little devils know the answer..and FEAR the answer..for the answer is TRUTH – and TRUTH sets you RUNNING…for darkness cannot abide the light of TRUTH

  81. imtherealthing Says:

    [..YouTube..] @Claydoh01

    WELL DEVIL I am sure everyone wants to hear the answer…is God only Spirit or does he have a body of “flesh and bone, as you see me have” <–Jesus words AFTER his resurrection…comeon devil..say it..does God have a body also?

  82. imtherealthing Says:

    [..YouTube..] @Claydoh01

    Besides the “Does God ahve a body”..you still have NOt answered my question..did the “LORD” himself not say that the apostles also would JUDGE “alongside” him “ALL” the tribes of Isreal?..yes or no?

  83. Claydoh01 Says:

    [..YouTube..] Read back. I have answered you.
    I will pray the GOD, Jesus and the Holy Spirit shall open your eyes.

    Goodbye for now.

  84. imtherealthing Says:

    [..YouTube..] @Claydoh01

    What’s the matter DEVIL?..the light hurt?

  85. imtherealthing Says:

    [..YouTube..] @Claydoh01

    Yes RUN DEVIL…for you know you work for satan..and TRUTH CANNOT be CONFOUNDED for TRUTH is ETERNAL…for lies will fail and be exposed..as you just were.

  86. imtherealthing Says:

    [..YouTube..] @Claydoh01

    No ..you did not answer the question..you only gave HALF the answer..you quoted a scripture OUT of CONTEXT of what the entire scriptrues say on the matter of who God is..he is BOTH SPIRIT and BODY..not just SPirit..as you would like to potray to justify your false teachings…lying devil..and that is why you run away – for you know this to be true…so your twisting of the scripture was exposed.

  87. imtherealthing Says:

    [..YouTube..] @Claydoh01

    You know you lied..I know you lied and more importantly the LORD knows you lied..and we all (those here who can read below) saw how you twisted that scripture to support your false belief..and how you AVOIDED answer a very simple question posed to you which you purposely AVOIDED because you KNEW the conclusion – yet you love your lies more than you love GOD

  88. AmIWhiteYet Says:

    [..YouTube..] Yes, you too can fall for the “are you sincere enough with real faith” ruse perpetuated by Mormonism too.
    Step 1. Read the Book of Mormon. Be sure to question nothing otherwise you’re not sincere and lack real faith.
    Step 2. Pray, don’t expect an objective answer, only the predetermined answer you’re supposed to receive otherwise you’re not sincere and lack faith
    Step 3. This subjective feeling can now be pawned off as “truth”
    Step 4. Question nothing from this point on

  89. AmIWhiteYet Says:

    [..YouTube..] So then, does that mean you’ll be practicing polygamy in heaven? After all, according to Mormonism, its an “eternal truth” still in canonized scripture (D&C 132). As such, how many wives will you have?

  90. imtherealthing Says:

    [..YouTube..] @AmIWhiteYet

    No surprise that you would support a liar ( Claydoh01 ) like yourself. All one has to do is READ comments by him and you…don’t worry about whether we are objective..for you only know one thing…
    LIES…your ploy to try to cover this doesn’t wash.

    Liars are liars…and you are a terrible liar …TRUTH will never fail..lies will always be exposed..as you and your kind have been exposed. What’s the mattter – you devils call on each other to work shifts?…

  91. imtherealthing Says:

    [..YouTube..] @AmIWhiteYet

    1 Pet. 5: 8
    Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour:

  92. imtherealthing Says:

    [..YouTube..] @AmIWhiteYet

    2 Nephi 33:6

    I glory in plainness; I glory in truth; I glory in my Jesus, for he hath redeemed my soul from hell.

  93. imtherealthing Says:

    [..YouTube..] @AmIWhiteYet

    2 Nephi 9: 34
    Wo unto the liar, for he shall be thrust down to hell.

  94. imtherealthing Says:

    [..YouTube..] @AmIWhiteYet

    Ah this is where the liar AmIWhiteYet ran too…since he could not answer my questions on the trinity. Why did you run away AmIWhiteYet ?..why are you afraid to answer questions about your 3-headed god..tell me..why does one not find the words “essence” or “substance” in the bible when you speak of the GODHEAD being ONE GOD…those words are NOT found in the bible in ANY of the original languages..it is EXTRA-BIBLICAL..that means outside of the bible.

  95. imtherealthing Says:

    [..YouTube..] @AmIWhiteYet

    Tell me AmIWhiteYet ..why is it that one can sin against the FATHER and the SON but not against the HOLY GHOST as we read in the “bible”..if they are of the same essence or substance or MIND as trinitarians say ..why is it that you are not sinning against the HOLY GHOST when you sin against the Father and Son..if they are the same ESSENCE or SUBSTANCE or MIND?

  96. imtherealthing Says:

    [..YouTube..] @AmIWhiteYet

    …if one has to believe that ONLY a belief in the bible will save you..then would you then say the CHRISTIANS of the first 3 centuries then do not qualify..um..since the bible was not yet CANONIZED. The writings of the bible originally consisted of 80+ books before the canon of today..and even then you “protestants” changed the bible..you reject the books in the Catholic bible – the original bible.

  97. imtherealthing Says:

    [..YouTube..] @AmIWhiteYet

    Tell me AmIWhiteYet..is LYING of the LORD or of SATAN?..because you sure do a lot of it…well?

    Are you sure you beleive in the JESUS of the bible?..show me where he condones lying..actually..show me what he says about liars..I think you would have a better time at finding those sciptures..go study them..but be not like the pharisees..internalize them..for you salvation sake

  98. imtherealthing Says:

    [..YouTube..] @AmIWhiteYet

    Tell me ..why is the doctrine of works and grace not of God as you and your kind teach this doctrine of Martin Luther “Justification by faith” only.

    When in FACT for the first 1600 years!!! Christians PRACTICED and BELIEVED in a WORKS and GRACE gospel..in FACT..the Catholics and EASTERN “ORTHODOX” churches still teach this today..it is you evangelicals – the MINORITY who practice this false theology..not to mention that Martin Luther on his death bed confessed he was wrong.

  99. AmIWhiteYet Says:

    [..YouTube..] I already told you. I don’t believe in the Trinity of the Nicene Creed. It was you who ran away from my question as to whether you believe a prophet can give false revelations or lie about what God has revealed and still be a prophet. Remember?

    Now answer the question.

  100. imtherealthing Says:

    [..YouTube..] @dfwsunking

    More regarding polygamy

    God giveth and he taketh..god gives us tough tests..as was the case for Abraham to sacrifice his son..or Jonah who was commanded by the Lord to do what he was..where Jonah was so scared to do that test given him..he thought he could sail to the furthest regions to escape God’s will..as was all tests..wether it was polygamy or facing death being a member of his church in early days as well as in these latter days – God will test HIS people.

  101. imtherealthing Says:

    [..YouTube..] @dfwsunking
    Ask yourself..if you are being put to a tough test..if not..you are not worthy of HiS blessings.

    God does as He pleases..who are we to question HIM..his WAYS are NOT our “ways”.

    Who are “YOU” to know the MIND of the LORD? – um..a nobody..that’s who..so if god wants to test his people..and how he does it..it is HIS PEROGATIVE..not your pathetic little mortal mind that can’t even grasp a simple thing like how revelation works.

  102. dfwsunking Says:

    [..YouTube..] @imtherealthing

    I know polygamy existed before. But in Biblical times it never commanded by God. It was Sarah who suggested it to Abraham despite the fact God took care of it anyway by helping Sarah conceive at 90.
    The first actual recorded polygamist was not Abraham, it was Lamech a descendant of Cain.
    Even if God did command it, he wasn’t contradicting himself when he did so as he was in the case of JS (contradicting a revelation given just 3 years prior and the 12th article of faith).

  103. imtherealthing Says:

    [..YouTube..] @dfwsunking

    Your mind is made up..even against LOGIC and EVIDENCE..you will have this “thorn in your side” as it says in the scriptures till you submit your REBELLIOUS will to the LORD…it is your anger that BLINDS you to the obvious..the Lord still used those men as prophets..and Jacob and Isacc and others had more than one wife…it says that even Judah went in to a prostitute..yet funny how the Lord still used him..huh?..what of the Saviour’s Geneology?..go read up on them..

  104. imtherealthing Says:

    [..YouTube..] @dfwsunking

    Moron..Jsopeh smith did not “contradict” himself..it is YOU who does not understand how revealtion works..sigh..you will NEVER get it..you are of your father satan..for now..you love DARKNESS more than you love LIGHT and TRUTH.

  105. dfwsunking Says:

    [..YouTube..] @imtherealthing

    I don’t profess to know God’s prerogative. I only know that God would not contradict his previous commandment and as such render himself imperfect. Only a man who wanted to use God for his own gain would.

    Gee, people are accusing me of polygamy with Fanny Alger. I’m not guilty though because God says don’t do it. See?
    Gee, Sister Zina is pretty hot. I’d sure like to thrust my sickle in her. She’s married but God says I have to or I’ll lose my position and my life!

    Right…

  106. imtherealthing Says:

    [..YouTube..] @dfwsunking

    Your vulgarity demonstrates where you are spiritually…how sad…you see your kind always think it is about sex…because your mind is twisted with hatred and lust..therefore..you think what you would do if you were given this commandment…you have lust in your heart..and evil CONTINUALLY..add that to your anger..as a matter of fact…it is the summation of who you are..when you fight against the Lord..those tend to be the qualities of your kind.

  107. imtherealthing Says:

    [..YouTube..] @dfwsunking

    You know you can repent and come back..if only you would do that..how great would be your joy..to embrace love and the Spirit again..rather than misery and hate..as you so obviously have in abundance…

  108. imtherealthing Says:

    [..YouTube..] @dfwsunking

    Revelation for your benifit..as since you have had the Spirit absent in your life for awhile..works like this..The Lord gives a revelation..perhaps for a time..as we see much, but not ALL of the stuff in the OT was changed by NEW revelation..did God contradict himself?..no..God told Jonah he was going to destroy Ninevah..did he?..NO..he gave another revelation that he wouldn’t..God gave the revealtion of taking the Gospel to the Gentiles..did he change HIs mind?..YES.

  109. dfwsunking Says:

    [..YouTube..] @imtherealthing

    What valid reason was there for Joseph to marry women who already had husbands when he was already practicing polygamy and, like in the case of Zina the husband is a faithful member? There is no scripture anywhere that commands polyandry.
    What valid reason was there for Joseph Smith to practice polygamy with Fanny Alger when he didn’t even have the sealing keys from Elijah yet? God wouldn’t tell him to practice something without giving him the means necessary.

  110. imtherealthing Says:

    [..YouTube..] @dfwsunking

    MORE on REVELATION

    God did change his mind regarding allowing the priesthood also..as he did with the OT where he only had one tribe hold it out of 12..God will change his mind for HIS OWN reasons..not YOURS..YOU do not know HIS WILL and the end from the begining..so stop pretending to know why god does what he does and questioning his will.

    Your rebellion is seperating you from God’s love in your live..therefore peace…pray and read the scriptures..attend church..be meek

  111. imtherealthing Says:

    [..YouTube..] @dfwsunking

    Whatever the reason – you and I are NOT privy to it..it is of no concern to you or I..it is the LORD’s will..thus many of those things were kept from the majority of the church..because weak minded people like you could not handle things of the LORD ..the Lord giveth only as much as you can accept..if you can’t accept the FULLNESS of the Gospel – then be a Baptist, or Methodist..but your salvation is limited..for you are not prepared for more of God’s word.

  112. imtherealthing Says:

    [..YouTube..] @dfwsunking

    That is why the Lord says..not to cast pearls before swine..for pigs can’t grasp the significance of the worth of a pearl – they would just trample it under thier hooves in the mud…a thing as precious as a pearl..for to them..it holds no worth…because they do not understand.

    Milk before meat..also comes to mind..that is why only about 2-5% of the church was prepared for this higher law of plural marriage…there are many things the vulgar mind/person..cannot abide.

  113. imtherealthing Says:

    [..YouTube..] @dfwsunking

    READ 1 Cor chapter 2

    The WISDOM of GOD..mystery (the Greek musterion) means a secret rite or secret.

    Perfect also in that chapter means mature or initiated from the Greek “teleios”

    Read that and the first few verses of Chapter 3 (as the NT letters never were broken into chapters and verses)

    Ponder what Paul is trying to say there.

    Some people are just not mature enough spiritually for things…thus our temple rites for example.

  114. dfwsunking Says:

    [..YouTube..] @imtherealthing

    I don’t care what your assumed reason is. God would never contradict himself to this extreme and no matter how much you try to postulate and argue to the contrary, this is the case. Either God is an irrational, forgetful, imperfect being who changes his mind and will at the drop of a hat (1829 – Off, 1831 – On, 1835 – Off again, 1843 – On)
    That, or someone is using God, stating things as coming from God’s command for their own personal benefit (sex). I’ll take the latter.

  115. imtherealthing Says:

    [..YouTube..] @dfwsunking

    [Bangs head against a wall] ..like I said..to a vulgar mind..spiritual things will never be understood..and you have a vulgar mind..thus you will never UNDERSTAND spiritual things for you are a “babe” as it says in 1 Cor. 3:1

    And I, brethren, could not speak unto you as unto spiritual, but as unto carnal, even as unto babes in Christ.

  116. imtherealthing Says:

    [..YouTube..] @dfwsunking

    God is niether of those things (irrational, forgetful, imperfect)..it is you who who has all those traits..don’t superimpose those traits unto God.

    Your lack of COGNITVE comprehension of things spiritual will not come to you..it is impossible as long as you are in darkness..try being meek and lowly of heart..try REPENTING of your pride and anger first..then seek the Lord’s forgivenss for your rebellion…then he shall OPEN your spiritual eyes.

  117. imtherealthing Says:

    [..YouTube..] @dfwsunking

    Stop your blabbering on in ignorance..go read and ponder 1 Cor. 2 & 3..then pray and ask god what is really meant here…then come back and talk..when you are EDUCATED on the matters of things spiritual..vs the things carnal…man’s wisdom vs God’s wisdom..God’s teachings vs man’s teachings..

  118. dfwsunking Says:

    [..YouTube..] @imtherealthing

    Polygamy isn’t “spiritual”. In fact, according to GBH it’s not even doctrine (I guess he conveniently forgot D&C 132). Remember?

  119. dfwsunking Says:

    [..YouTube..] @imtherealthing

    I’m Satan’s minion and he won’t possibly answer me, remember? You of course having the Spirit, the priesthood, and all that spiritual power should be able to just speed dial him and get an immediate answer for me. Sadly, you can’t, can you? I suggest you ask your fearless leader Pres. Monson. Let me know what he says…

    Thus sayeth the Lord (crickets)…

  120. dfwsunking Says:

    [..YouTube..] Furthermore, how do you reconcile church presidents and prophets like Woodruff, Snow and Joseph F. Smith who clearly violated God’s Manifesto command and as such should have excommunicated?

    Plus, what happens to Mormons today who reject polygamy in the next life on GBH’s claim that its not doctrinal? So much for not leading God’s people astray (again)…

  121. imtherealthing Says:

    [..YouTube..] @dfwsunking

    According to GBH..it isn’t NOW as it wasn’t at times in the Book of Mormon or other times..REVELATION will change as we see the Lord “giveth and he taketh” accrding to his will..not yours..so get over it..no one is asking you to live it now or ever..but I would recommend that you deal with your anger issues.

  122. imtherealthing Says:

    [..YouTube..] @dfwsunking

    Your MATURITY is just unbelievable..you are probably a single guy living with his mother..because at your age you should have more wisdom..unless of course your mind has stop maturing after a point..really..come on..grow up.

  123. imtherealthing Says:

    [..YouTube..] @dfwsunking

    My answers will not placate you..because you love satan more than you love God..your anger is so obvious to any reader here…you do not seek answers and TRUTH..rather you seek to justify your anger…you want to HATE..and HATING for you is easier than praying for truth and reading for truth..hard to give up your sins huh?…you LOVE your sins too much to give them up..funny that polygamy is a real issue with you..your mind is in the gutter. Sex seems to OCCUPY your mind a lot.

  124. omiolo Says:

    [..YouTube..] Mormon bishops are not required to remain celibate. In fact, they are required to be married. Briggs marriage follows a traditional structure, where he is the primary provider and his wife is the primary nurturer, roles that best meet the needs of their young children, he said.

    The church teaches that men have the primary duty of being the providers for their home, Briggs explained. Im the priesthood authority of my house and what that means is if someone needs to be in charge, its me

  125. AmIWhiteYet Says:

    [..YouTube..] @imtherealthing

    As I told you before I’m not an atheist. Keep making false accusations though…
    It’s not the Lord’s church. It’s a church created by a man obsessed with folklore who used his obsession for money, power, and sexual conquest. A man guilty of glass-looking, bank fraud, polygamy, perjury, false revelations, destroying a printing press and a litany of other crimes who was killed in a shootout with a mob and is now exposed (courtesy of the internet) for his real character.

  126. imtherealthing Says:

    [..YouTube..] @AmIWhiteYet

    LOl..just anti-mormon jibberish we all have heard and defended..and shown to be lies and half-truths and distortions..all the while your kind demonstrating your HATE and bigotry….lol..and least of all..it is nothing but your own OPINIONS as we see with the Saducees and Pharisees who also held thier own OPINIONS where they too slandered the Lord and his servants.

  127. imtherealthing Says:

    [..YouTube..] @AmIWhiteYet

    AS for you not being an athiest…oh really?..if you DON’T ACCEPT the TRINITY what then do you ACCEPT?..you never did answer that one.

  128. samtorrance5590 Says:

    [..YouTube..] It’s a nice and touching video, but it doesn’t tell the truth. The truth is, the stories in the Book of Mormon aren’t historical. Joseph Smith lived in adultery by having many wives at the same time. The Book of Mormon says that Nephites and Lamanites lived in the Americas, in large numbers and in large cities, yet neither have been found in Archaeology. These two peoples faught in a massive battle around 400AD, leaving no evidence that there was a battle. No weapons, no buriel grounds, nothing!

  129. imtherealthing Says:

    [..YouTube..] @samtorrance5590

    Ah another liar joins us…another liar spewing more lies by PARROTING old anti-mormon objections…lol

    Don’t your kind get sick of lying?..of distorting?

    1) This video does tell the truth..it is of God because an apostle of the Lord is talking – whether or not YOU accept him does not nullify his calling as an apostle

    2) JS did have 33 wives..so what..so did many of the prophets throughout the ages..read below for more on this topic…included are all the scriptures

  130. imtherealthing Says:

    [..YouTube..] @samtorrance5590
    3) The Book of Mormon is God’s WORD whether you accept it or not..matters not..as it is another TESTAMENT of CHRIST..for all prophets who are of GOD preach and testify of GOD as do those in the Book of Mormon.

    As for the OLD objection that archaeology does not prove it (yet) so what?..where was this ever a requirement for a belief in GOD? – that’s right – NOWHERE

    I will play devil’s advocate – our D&C has ALL of its archaeology VERIFIED whereas the bible doesn’t

  131. imtherealthing Says:

    [..YouTube..] @samtorrance5590

    The Hebrews/Isrealites/Jews when they WANDERED for 40 years in exhile…they estimate that there were roughly 2,000,000 people and animals – yet were is the archeaological EVIDENCE for such a group? – NOWHERE – therefore using YOUR standard – the bible is FLASE…are their any INTELLIGENT anti-mormons anywhere?..please..just ONE

  132. imtherealthing Says:

    [..YouTube..] @samtorrance5590

    My turn to ask questions:

    ..why does one not find the words “essence” or “substance” in the bible when you speak of the GODHEAD being ONE GOD…those words are NOT found in the bible in ANY of the original languages..it is EXTRA-BIBLICAL..that means outside of the bible.

    Therefore..since you CANNOT make this connection of thier ONENESS being this way from the bible – that means your nicene god is FALSE.

  133. imtherealthing Says:

    [..YouTube..] @samtorrance5590

    ..why is it that one can sin against the FATHER and the SON but not against the HOLY GHOST as we read in the “bible”..if they are of the same essence or substance or MIND as trinitarians say ..why is it that you are not sinning against the HOLY GHOST when you sin against the Father and Son..if they are the same ESSENCE or SUBSTANCE or MIND?

  134. imtherealthing Says:

    [..YouTube..] @samtorrance5590

    ON ONENESS”

    John 17: 11, 21-22
    And now I am no more in the world, but these are in the world, and I come to thee. Holy Father, keep through thine own name those whom thou hast given me, that THEY may be ONE, AS WE ARE.

    That THEY “ALL” may be ONE; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be ONE IN US: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me.

    And the glory which thou gavest me I have given them; that THEY MAY BE ONE, even as we are ONE

  135. imtherealthing Says:

    [..YouTube..] @samtorrance5590

    ..why is it that false christianity needs analogies like an egg, a triangle, or water in its three phases to EXPLAIN thier 3-headed god?..can you point to just ONE place in the Bible where ANY of the prophets or apostles use these very analogies or ANY analogies for that matter to explain the GODHEAD?..well?

    Guess your “god” is not found in the bible huh?

  136. imtherealthing Says:

    [..YouTube..] @samtorrance5590

    John 17:3
    And this is LIFE ETERNAL, that THEY might KNOW THEE the ONLY TRUE GOD, and Jesus Christ, whom THOU HAST SENT.

    …you will notice that God is no “mystery” in a TRINITY like most trinitarians teach – it is LIFE ETERNAL to know “GOD” AND <– Christ as it says here..so we see also that they are TWO seperate beings..not one in a substance or essence..for that is nowhere to be found in the Bible..as is your false nicene “god”

  137. imtherealthing Says:

    [..YouTube..] @samtorrance5590

    Acts 7:51-53
    Ye STIFFNECKED and uncircumcised IN HEART and EARS, YE DO ALWAYS RESIST the HOLY GHOST: as your fathers did, so do ye.

    Which of the PROPHETS have not your fathers persecuted? and they have slain them which shewed before of the coming of the Just One; of whom ye have been now the betrayers and murderers:

    Who have received the law BY the disposition of ANGELS, and have not kept it.

  138. imtherealthing Says:

    [..YouTube..] @samtorrance5590

    Acts 7:54

    When they heard these things, they were cut to the heart, and they gnashed on him with their teeth.

  139. dfwsunking Says:

    [..YouTube..] @imtherealthing

    We’re not gnashing our teeth. It’s you gnashing yours on reality. A reality that will in the years to come prove less and less kind to Mormonism.
    Conversions continue to drop because people can now look read, and see what the missionaries never wanted to tell them in advance.
    DNA namely admixture mapping will only prove more fatal since it will show there was no extinction of Lamanite DNA
    More scientific discoveries will continue to discredit BOM historical claims

    Get ready!

  140. dfwsunking Says:

    [..YouTube..] Seminary enrollment continues to drop as well, meaning fewer brainwashed kids who will wind up going on missions or go through the temple
    Activity rates continue to decline. I expect the members per unit to rise to 500 as fewer people will be filling the pews. Only 30% are active.
    Apostles like Oakes and Holland will become more unhinged and make even more ridiculous statements like Prop 8 fallout was the same as civil rights persecution in the 60′s (Mormons were lynched? Really?) BWAHAHAHA!

  141. dfwsunking Says:

    [..YouTube..] Shows like Big Love will continue to grow in popularity meaning polygamy will always be the 600 lb. gorilla in the middle of the public consciousness no one can ignore.
    Expect more Prop 8 fallout like the damning legal brief where church tries to maintain plausible deniability over their involvement
    When the US census comes out later this year although the church claims 5 million members, those who when surveyed consider themselves Mormon will be less than 3 million

    Personally, I can’t wait!

  142. imtherealthing Says:

    [..YouTube..] @dfwsunking

    I laugh at you..you know why?..because of the following reasons:

    1) You are a moron (undisputed)
    2) You are a liar (that has been proven many times here)
    3) You are an angry person (anyone can read that to confirm what I say si true)
    4) Nothing you say..really will change ANY Latter-Day Saint’s mind – you can’t be taken seriously based on the above..lol

  143. imtherealthing Says:

    [..YouTube..] @dfwsunking

    You LOST the argument on polygamy

    Then in a panic you turned to polyandry..hoping to recover ..yet once again failed when I presented a logical explaination..you just did not like – boo hoo

    And now you turn to DNA and all the other “OLD” objections you have had beaten into the ground before..so you want to re-gurgitate all that again – you are incapable of LOGICAL and INTELLIGENT discussion – your anger and LACK of EDUCATION is too horribly stacked AGAINST YOU…sorry ;)

  144. dfwsunking Says:

    [..YouTube..] Keep calling names and making false assumptions, further proof of your detachment with reality.

    In the meantime, I’ll be looking positively forward for April when the church reluctantly announces convert baptisms are less then 300k (again) and churches like the JW’s, Seventh Day Adventists, Assemblies of God and others are growing faster (again)
    The stone cut of the mountain is stuck in the mire of its numerous lies and deceit.

  145. dfwsunking Says:

    [..YouTube..] @imtherealthing

    I didn’t lose the argument. I proved that given what God stated and the time when he stated it compared to the actions of JS and later church presidents during those times shows they all should have been excommunicated and proves they were never God’s prophets, just horny men peddling sex for salvation.
    My favorite quote is from Heber C. Kimball “I think of more of taking another wife than I do of buying another cow”
    3 cheers for Mormon heiferdom!

  146. imtherealthing Says:

    [..YouTube..] @dfwsunking

    Of course you LOST the argument..you poor deluded moron..did you really think you won?..seriously?

    You contradcited yourself several times..and you were shown to contradict the biblical verses..

    There you go AGAIN..”sex” on the brain..you have mentioned “sex” numerous times – too numerious to list now..so what does that say about what OCCUPIES your mind?..hmm

    Your VULGARITY is also very telling..your FRUITS are ROTTEN..

    HATE
    SEX on the brain all the time, etc

  147. dfwsunking Says:

    [..YouTube..] @imtherealthing

    Let me explain contradiction again.
    Saying to practice polygamy with the Lamanites in 1831, then suddenly reversing yourself and saying not to practice it in 1835 is contradiction. Banging Fanny Alger after God said no polygamy in 1835 is contradiction. Marrying women who already had husbands when there’s no recorded commandment anywhere for this ever is contradiction.
    Saying God said to stop polygamy then continuing to practice it secretly is contradiction.

    Pure hypocrisy!

  148. imtherealthing Says:

    [..YouTube..] @dfwsunking

    “banging”?

    I rest my case..you are a PERVERT..

  149. dfwsunking Says:

    [..YouTube..] @imtherealthing

    No, I’m calling out one. A certain Joseph Smith…

    You won’t catch me banging 14 year olds or women who already have husbands. Too bad he can’t say that….

  150. imtherealthing Says:

    [..YouTube..] @dfwsunking

    FINALLY…you admit that lies are not from the LORD- yet you do it ALL the TIME.

    AS for the lies of the prophets to protect their families from persecution from the devils in government who had just issued an EXTERMINATION manifesto on the saints..well..can you blame them?..as was the case with Abraham another PROPHET who LIED to protect he and his wife Sara..when he lied about her being his wife..hmm..another lying PROPHET about a wife not being his..sound familiar?…moron.

  151. dfwsunking Says:

    [..YouTube..] @imtherealthing

    Ah, but the D&C is rife with false prophesies like Zion being built in Independence, Mo beginning with the temple before this generation shall pass away or there being much gold and silver in Salem (more treasure-hunting obsession by Joseph)
    Mission of David Patten in the spring. (He died beforehand)

    I know, false prophesy, shmophesy…

  152. dfwsunking Says:

    [..YouTube..] @imtherealthing

    Your chronology is WAY WAY WAY WAY OFF pal! (52 years) in fact. They lied when the Mormons were in Utah and God supposedly said its time to stop and anyone who continued would be excommunicated after the Manifesto in 1890. The extermination order was in 1838.

    BWAHAHAHAHAHA!

  153. imtherealthing Says:

    [..YouTube..] @dfwsunking

    Right..the D&C is rife with “false prophisies”..lol..no more so than the Bible..have you seriously EVER read how people RIP the bible to PIECES the same way you devils try with the Book of Mormon?..give me a break..you belong to the SAME type of CREATURE who does this to the bible…for it is the SAME authour (the DEVIL) who hardens YOUR heart AGAINST the LORD’s WORD…you attack the Book of Mormon as those who also attack the Bible.

  154. imtherealthing Says:

    [..YouTube..] @dfwsunking

    Do you think that is the ONLY order to exterminate the LDS?..moron?..that is a POPULAR one ..but not the ONLY one..moron…go read history..moron.

  155. imtherealthing Says:

    [..YouTube..] @dfwsunking

    I love how you keep trying to find more and more against the church AFTER your pathetic attempts fail on the other topics I prove..yet you continue even AFTER the LORD answers your pathetic objections via me…you heart is CONTINUIOUSLY seeking after DARKNESS.

  156. imtherealthing Says:

    [..YouTube..] @dfwsunking

    You also “MISS” the point – we were PERSECUTED FAR FAR MORE than your one reference to LDS doing this..and yet LDS showed some mercy..did your mobs show the same mercy?..um..no..tar and feathering, RAPE, MURDER, burning and looting of homes…shall I go on?..go read up on Huans Mill and the children who were killed (babies shot in the head at point blank range)..who were the leaders of these mobs?…ministers/priests, pastors of FALSE “chrsitianity..that’s who..that is FACT.

  157. dfwsunking Says:

    [..YouTube..] “A man that violated this law in the Doctrine and Covenants, 1835 edition, until the acceptance of that revelation by the church, violated the law of the church if he practiced plural marriage. Yes sir, he would have been cut off from the church, I think I should have been if I had. Before the giving of that revelation in 1843 if a man married more wives than one who were living at the same time, he would have been cut off from the church.” Lorenzo Snow

    So why wasn’t Joseph exed then?

  158. dfwsunking Says:

    [..YouTube..] @imtherealthing

    No you miss the point. The Mormons exacted revenge against an innocent wagon party for events that took place nearly 20 years before. I know about Haun’s and it was a 9 year old boy (not babies).
    The Haun’s Mill massacre was committed on October 30 by an unauthorized militia band who acted in retaliation for the Mormon Danite raids on their towns of Millport, Gallatin, and Grinder’s Fork and the Danites’ attack on other state militia troops at Crooked River on October 25.

  159. imtherealthing Says:

    [..YouTube..] @dfwsunking

    Like I said..your HEART loves darkness more than light..the more I answer and show you they are lies or distorted truths..or half-truths or bold-faced lies..you continue on and on..you are like your counter-parts who THIRSTED for BLOOD of the Saviour and his prophets – like RAVAGING WOLVES you persecute the Lord’s prophets and his church (you recrucify the Lord) ..and no amount of blood will satisfy you

  160. dfwsunking Says:

    [..YouTube..] @imtherealthing

    These aren’t lies, you just have to throw up the blinders, and dismiss them as such every time they show the church is nothing more than a giant massive fraudulent enterprise of hypocrites and false prophets.
    Truth hurts!

  161. imtherealthing Says:

    [..YouTube..] @dfwsunking

    There were babies..in many ofthe MURDERS by your blood thirsty mobs…and yes there was a 9 year old boy and that militia was under orders by a Colonel William Jennings – a solider of the U.S. army..repersenting such…and yes in most cases ministers/pastors/preists did indeed lead ost of the mobs..go read history.

  162. imtherealthing Says:

    [..YouTube..] @dfwsunking

    No TRUTH hurts you persecutors..well maybe not..since you have murder and lies in your hearts.

  163. imtherealthing Says:

    [..YouTube..] @dfwsunking

    Acts 7:51-53
    Ye STIFFNECKED and uncircumcised IN HEART and EARS, YE DO ALWAYS RESIST the HOLY GHOST: as your fathers did, so do ye.

    Which of the PROPHETS have not your fathers persecuted? and they have slain them which shewed before of the coming of the Just One; of whom ye have been now the betrayers and murderers:

    Who have received the law BY the disposition of ANGELS, and have not kept it.

  164. imtherealthing Says:

    [..YouTube..] @dfwsunking

    Acts 7:54

    When they heard these things, they were cut to the heart, and they gnashed on him with their teeth.

  165. dfwsunking Says:

    [..YouTube..] @imtherealthing

    Like having intimate sexual relations with 14 years old and already married women, you won’t catch me butchering up a wagon party either.

    Heinous crimes:

    Mormons – 2, Dfwsunking – 0

  166. imtherealthing Says:

    [..YouTube..] @dfwsunking Your knid will never be satisfied with answers…even your counterparts the Saducees and Pharisees could never be placated…they thirsted for more signs and proofs and always tried to TRAP the saviour and his apostles..like you devils those devils failed..and like I pointed out to the other pervert – you two seem caught up in “sex” talk a lot..so one can see what’s on your brain most often…perverts go hand and hand with lying and persecuting the Lord’s church – you are of satan

  167. dfwsunking Says:

    [..YouTube..] @imtherealthing

    Jesus refuted the Saducees and Pharisees with ease using their own words and actions to condemn them. I’m doing the same thing to condemn Mormonism using their own false prophesies, false teachings and lies. Deal with it!

  168. samtorrance5590 Says:

    [..YouTube..] @moparmonster1965

    Yes, 2.5 million people died at the Hill Cumorah in 400AD in a massive battle, not leaving a single trace. Neither weapons, bodies, or records outside of the book of mormon mentioning this battle. That is 1 of my many reasons for not taking The Book Of Mormon as the Word of God.

  169. samtorrance5590 Says:

    [..YouTube..] @imtherealthing

    Thank you for insulting me and not providing a single shred of evidence against my claims.

    I suggested that it’s impossible for millions of people to die in a battle leaving not a trace of that battle, neither weapons, bodies or a record of the battle (except in the Book of Mormon).

  170. samtorrance5590 Says:

    [..YouTube..] @imtherealthing

    We test the bible in terms of it’s history. Because, if we find it to be lying about history, we can automatically discount it as the word of God. Because God cannot lie, and will record reliable history in his word. He succeeds, it seems, to do this in the Bible. Yet, he cannot do it in the Book of Mormon. Not the same God if you ask me.

  171. samtorrance5590 Says:

    [..YouTube..] @imtherealthing

    Are you a mormon? Aren’t you meant to be “good” to get into heaven. All I see on this page is you insulting people, and not defending your faith at all. I don’t think there is anyone here out to hurt or offend you. We just want you to know the truth. The book of mormon does not stand as reliable history.

  172. samtorrance5590 Says:

    [..YouTube..] @imtherealthing

    There is plenty of biblical evidence. The bible records it, and it is our only reliable ancient source for this history. Can we trust? Why not?

    What sort of archaeological evidence would you expect from people wandering in a desert?

    On the other hand, huge civilizations in the Americas. Writing on metal, using coins, having massive battles….. yet none can be found. Coins were not used in anceitn America. Writing on metal… did not happen my friend. BOM is wrong.

  173. imtherealthing Says:

    [..YouTube..] @dfwsunking

    You are a hater..you cannot see for the nose in front of you..that you are like your counter-parts the Pharisess and Saducees. I am not here to prove the church is TRUE to you morons..because that will NEVER happen..if the LORD intended to do that…he could have sent an ARMY of HIS ANGELS to do so..I am here only to CONDEM you and your kind by EXPOSING your lies and methodology ..your METHODOLOGY is that of your counter parts above as I mentioned

  174. temsa026 Says:

    [..YouTube..] @imtherealthing. hey I’m a pentecostal Christian and am just doing a bit of research on Mormonism. Could you give me a quick overview of the Mormon beliefs? (P.S. ensure every word you speak with to non-believers is with gentleness and respect reflecting the way Jesus would talk, keeping a clear conscience, so that those who speak maliciously against your good behavior in Christ may be ashamed of their slander.)

  175. imtherealthing Says:

    [..YouTube..] @temsa026

    Go to LDS(dot)org

    I once was a pentecostal before I converted to the LORD’s Church.

    May your studies go well for you when you call the missionaries to your home to teach you.

  176. imtherealthing Says:

    [..YouTube..] @samtorrance5590

    NONSENSE..there were not 2.5 million who died on Hill Cumorah..no such number is given…do not trust your anti-mormon sources…just makes you look uncrediable as a person who kows anything to do with LDS theology – which you obviously do not.

  177. imtherealthing Says:

    [..YouTube..] @samtorrance5590

    Want to know what is also “impossible”? The biblical proof for talking asses or dragons or unicorns or people being raised from the dead or a sea being parted..yet we all believe that..right?.Give it a rest..that is why it is called faith.

    But let’s turn to “biblical” archaeology shall we..no one has been able to PROVE that almost 2 million people and animals traveled in the wilderness for 40 years..they have not found ONE shred of evidence for this – sending you a video

  178. imtherealthing Says:

    [..YouTube..] @samtorrance5590

    Don’t pull that garbage on me about “my not being good” hypocrite..for you and your kind come here with evil in your hearts…and lies.

    YOu are like your father the serpent..I don’t buy into your lies.

    My anger is justified..as I know your kind very well..having been one of you before…I too persecuted the Lord’s church..just like you and the other liars – I know your tricks I also know how you think and why you do what you do. I lied to myself then as you do now…

  179. imtherealthing Says:

    [..YouTube..] @samtorrance5590

    God dose not lie..but you do and so do other wicked men and women..satan is out to destroy and discredit the LORD’s church..and he has succeded..the evidence you say?..look at ALL the CONFUSING and CONTRADICTING doctrines your kind teach and believe – the division (and save your baloney that you all agree on the basics – so full of it..as I used that before – God is NOT a God of Confusion nor is HIS house divivded..for it could not stand if it was..and your house is divided)

  180. imtherealthing Says:

    [..YouTube..] @samtorrance5590

    You have FAILED to address the questions I posed..why?..what are you afraid of? – the TRUTH?

  181. imtherealthing Says:

    [..YouTube..] @samtorrance5590

    Your obvious LACK knowledge of LDS theology and knowledge of arcaheaology for the Book of Mormon – we do not say “coins” that was not in the original heading – they were measurments..otheriwise prove we said coins in the Book of Mormon..you CAN’T – as the Heading was in error for the chapter which was not in the ORIGINAL manuscript – you DECIEVER..you knew this already – yet here you are mis-quoting us AGAIN – that is called DECEIT – where does that originate from? – satan

  182. imtherealthing Says:

    [..YouTube..] @samtorrance5590

    Are you kidding me?..there were records found in all parts of the world where people wrote on metal plates..give it up..if that is the case..how did JS know this at his time..for there were not any he was aware of..pretty impressive I say..

  183. executionerofgod Says:

    [..YouTube..] nice trolling.

  184. samtorrance5590 Says:

    [..YouTube..] @imtherealthing

    Classic Mormon. When their own faith book fails, attack the other half of their faith, the Bible! I can’t believe you’re calling me a liar. I’m simply saying that there’s no evidence that Nephites or Lamanites lived in the Americas.

    You’re very insulting, and you just seem to attack the Bible instead of giving me solid evidence that Nephites and Lamanites did live in the Americas. Like I said, no record, no buriel grounds, no weapons, no coins etc etc.

  185. imtherealthing Says:

    [..YouTube..] @executionerofgod

    The only troll are those like you who just can’t seem to stay away from church themed videos…lol..still can’t keep away huh?;;;;lol

  186. imtherealthing Says:

    [..YouTube..] @samtorrance5590

    NO..you really should say “CLASSIC anti-mormon”…you make up stats, distort our history, give half-truths,and out-right lie in most cases.<- THAT is CLASSIC ANTI-MORMON which equates to the CLASSIC METHODOLOGY used by SATAN as we see through out the ages.

    Attack the Bible? – what?…my dear little devil…all I do is merely point out what is OBVIOUS that your kind seem to AVOID – that if the same standards you use against is also applied to the Bible that the bible fails

  187. imtherealthing Says:

    [..YouTube..] @samtorrance5590

    I’m assuming your poor feelings were hurt when you found out the TRUTH that your archaeology for the Bible is in question as is your attempts to discredit the Book of Mormon – you poor devil..tsk tsk…you really believed you could PROVE something like FAITH?

    That is why we pray and we turn to God and depend on the Holy Spirit to guide us….you anti-mormons need your “signs” like your counter parts the Pharisees and Saduceees…you are devils..you don’t trust in GOD

  188. moparmonster1965 Says:

    [..YouTube..] You’re talking about the extermination of two entire civilizations and I believe the word ‘millions’ is used by a Mormon source (I don’t have it front of me at the moment), so that’s million, plural, meaning more than one. So we arrive at a number of at least two million and the numbers given in the BOM are somewhere near 500,000, making 2.5 million.

    But you’re right, it has nothing to do with LDS theology, and neither does the BOM itslef.

  189. moparmonster1965 Says:

    [..YouTube..] Now that is truly miraculous, Sam, This seems to imply that the church is lying.

  190. moparmonster1965 Says:

    [..YouTube..] What he means by ‘lies’ is anything that doesn’t jibe with the current LDS theology, up to and including their own texts written by their own prophets.

  191. dfwsunking Says:

    [..YouTube..] When it comes to Mormon racism. I love this recently discovered quote by Spencer W. Kimball to an interviewer regarding allowing blacks to finally hold the priesthood.
    “I don’t know that I should be the one doing this, but if I don’t, my successor [Ezra Taft Benson] won’t.”

    Why would his successor matter if God is the true source for the revelation?
    It had nothing to do with revelation, just avoiding possible lawsuits and losing their tax-exempt status if they didn’t.

  192. imtherealthing Says:

    [..YouTube..] @dfwsunking

    Ah dfwsunking the guy who does not believe in the TRINITY is back and is not sure what he believes yet attacks others beliefs…ROFL!!!

  193. imtherealthing Says:

    [..YouTube..] @moparmonster1965

    Go find me those STATS…good luck…ignoramus..willing to believe everything negative about my faith with no support..yet he CAN’T answer the simple questions on his own false teachings…lol..he hides behind posts he does not send to me..hoping to avoid my detection ..hoping no doubt to potray he dealt a leathal blow to the Lord’s church because he hopes I won’t check back on here to see his comments..lol…right ..as if that will ever happen…lol

  194. imtherealthing Says:

    [..YouTube..] @moparmonster1965

    @morpar the false christian

    Isaiah 5:20

    Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!

  195. samtorrance5590 Says:

    [..YouTube..] @imtherealthing

    Lol, now your mocking me.

    There’s faith. But with the Bible, there is faith in fact… and room for faith. Like, faith in God’s promises. But having faith in something that is written as historical is different. We can test if something is historical or not. And with the Bible, it wins out. It is archaeologically sound. There is no other account about the destruction of Jericho except in the bible. Yet when they did archaeological work, they saw it told the truth.

  196. samtorrance5590 Says:

    [..YouTube..] @imtherealthing

    Do you get what I’m trying to say there?

    Yes, there is faith in God that he will keep his promises and that he is true. But when it comes to historical accounts, we can test them. And if we can show that something written in the “Word of God” is not historical, then clearly it cannot be the Word of God. The Bible has never failed an archaeological test. There is a good book called “Evidence that Demands a Verdict” by Josh McDowell. Stop attacking the Bible, and defend your BOM

  197. LDSapologist71 Says:

    [..YouTube..] @samtorrance5590

    We have time and time again. It even went through the United States court system and with a fine comb they went through it. The book of Mormon defends itself, and you will find yourself on the wrong side, fighting the wrong side.

    Not everyone that cries Lord, Lord, will enter the Kingdom of Heaven according to the gospel of Matthew.

  198. LDSapologist71 Says:

    [..YouTube..] And there was a breakdown from Within and from without the Original Church, the apostles couldn’t replace the spots fast enough as the people around them were not ready to accept the truth in their day either and the Apostles were killed by wickedness.

    Like any structure with no foundation the original church fell into darkness and interpretation of men.

    2 Thessalonians 2:1-3, Isaiah 60:2, Amos 8:11

    Restoration ?

    Isaiah 29:14, Acts 3:21, Revelations 14:6-7 all of Daniel Chapter 2

  199. executionerofgod Says:

    [..YouTube..] the bom defends itself? historically accurate accounts of battles that never happened/ fabricated native american “hebraic geneology”.
    completely fabricated skin of blackness nonsense.
    the book of mormon cannot defned itself but of course no mormon will ever admit that. exmormons do daily

  200. moparmonster1965 Says:

    [..YouTube..] What negative things do I purport to be the truth that isn’t?

    That the church lied about its stance on polygamy? That blood atonement was preached? That Adam was taught to be God? That blacks are permitted the priesthood when your texts say they shouldn’t be? That the church altered its doctrines to appear more Christian?

    These are all facts and can all be proven as such.

  201. moparmonster1965 Says:

    [..YouTube..] I found the fell-good book for 1967, “The Church and the Negro.”

    It tries to soften the stance the church takes and explain its position, but goes on to reaffirm it anyway.

    The book has no publisher noted, but it was written with the consultation of the church authorites.

  202. moparmonster1965 Says:

    [..YouTube..] You’re projecting again, putting forth the false gospel and calling it truth because you want to become a god.

  203. Bureyeanne Says:

    [..YouTube..] @moparmonster1965

    Jesus Christ Himself taught the above doctrine in the Bible.

  204. Bureyeanne Says:

    [..YouTube..] @moparmonster1965

    It is really interesting how anti-Mormons like to mention the priesthood, when most of them come from some derision of the Southern Baptist Convention. A group who’s fundamental beliefs was to keep Slavery legal. A group of churches that didn’t change their position until well into the late 1870′s. Consider that verses Joseph Smith riding 100′s of miles try to talk President Buchanan into stopping slavery 30 years prior.

  205. Bureyeanne Says:

    [..YouTube..] @executionerofgod
    Maybe so, However there is virtually zero solid proof that any of the Bible happened either.

  206. imtherealthing Says:

    [..YouTube..] @samtorrance5590

    @samtorrance5590
    WHAT?..the “Bible has NEVER FAILED a archaeological test”?…are you STUPID????..are you a high school kid?..perhaps some 13 year old who hasn’t read much?..listen kid..go do some REAL reserach before exposing your stupidity further..I seriously spat out the food I was eating when I read your STUPID comment…thanks..that was a great meal too….stupid anti-mormons..Sheesh…one can never find an intelligent anti-mormon anywhere…

  207. imtherealthing Says:

    [..YouTube..] @executionerofgod

    @executionerofgod

    Ah the athiest still concerning himself with religion..and not just ANY religion, but the LDS religion..why?..because he can’t stay away from the TRUTH he so DESPERATELY wants us in the church to PROVE to him..sorry just not going to happen..the TRUTH is TRUTH..you can keep fighting AGAINST the TRUTH but you will not win as won’t the rest of your kind for this work is God’s work.

    Poor poor excutionerofgod..so angry at the LORD for his own failings

  208. imtherealthing Says:

    [..YouTube..] @moparmonster1965

    I love how morparmonster1965 always accuses the LORD’s church of lying…ROFL!!!..this coming from the master of lies himself….

    AGAIN (because we all know you lie and misquote LDS theology) – we NEVER PREACHED the ADMA GOD “THEORY”..notice it is theory not REVELATION..and it is nowhere to be found in our revelations that are canonized – as I have EXPLAINED to this simpleton hundreds of times where his DECIETFULNESS comes into play is he knows our stance on this already

  209. imtherealthing Says:

    [..YouTube..] @moparmonster1965
    RE: the Lying about polygamy…the little devil morpar knows our postion on this too since we have beating his SMALL brain into the ground with the answer many times..but still in his lying fashion..he tenaciously clings to his lies to support his agenda of trying to put out there mis-information hoping to FOOL LDS member to win over a soul to live with him in Hell..for satan wants all to be miserable like unto himself..and these individauls like morpar are miserable souls.

  210. imtherealthing Says:

    [..YouTube..] @moparmonster1965

    RE: becoming gods by grace

    Is called the DOCTRINE of “deification” or THEOSIS as taught by EARLY CHRISTIANS..something morpar will not address and run away like a vampire who is presented with gralic..it scares him off because he knows it is the TRUTH..good repels evil.

  211. imtherealthing Says:

    [..YouTube..] @moparmonster1965

    St. Irenaeus – “If the Word has been made man, it is so that men may be made gods” (Adv. Haer, V. Pref.)

    St. Athanasius repeats the EXACT same thing in the 4th century word for word.

    In the 5th century St. Cyril of Alexandria:
    says we shall become sons by “participation” (methexis).

    The DOCTRINE of (Theosis) or Deification was believed by MOST early christians and they point to MANY scriptures to support this belief both in the OTand NT

  212. executionerofgod Says:

    [..YouTube..] you may not have noticed but i havent mentioned the bible.

  213. dfwsunking Says:

    [..YouTube..] @imtherealthing

    It shouldn’t have changed on iota as it’s supposed to be a “restoration of all things”. Remember?
    Many truths of “the restoration” are now conveniently being filed away because they don’t jibe with the “mainstream christian” image the church is trying to sell. Just look at the latest Gospel Principles manual (Mormonism for dummies) as proof.

  214. imtherealthing Says:

    [..YouTube..] @dfwsunking

    St. Irenaeus – “If the Word has been made man, it is so that men may be made gods” (Adv. Haer, V. Pref.)

    St. Athanasius repeats the EXACT same thing in the 4th century word for word.

    In the 5th century St. Cyril of Alexandria:
    says we shall become sons by “participation” (methexis).

    The DOCTRINE of (Theosis) or Deification was believed by MOST early christians and they point to MANY scriptures to support this belief both in the OTand NT

  215. dfwsunking Says:

    [..YouTube..] @imtherealthing

    Yeah, but that’s not what Mormons today believe. According to fearless leader GBH, “I dont know that we teach it. I dont know that we emphasize it … I understand the philosophical background behind it, but I dont know a lot about it, and I dont think others know a lot about it.”

    Add another embarrassing doctrine to the pile. The dumbing down of Mormonism…

  216. medomedoMAN Says:

    [..YouTube..] lier smith

  217. medomedoMAN Says:

    [..YouTube..] Mormon is a Handmade Book made by that guy smith , and he used all less Diverted bible t made it sound like its from good, but its not from god, God didn’t send any prophets after Mohamed, and no Bokks after Quran! s whom ever wanna hear know Quran and discover him self go on that site!! the truth is shown and the less truth not at all right is shown too…..

  218. medomedoMAN Says:

    [..YouTube..] whoever wanna know the reality and think of it search on YouTube on the Video titled “The Concept Of God In Mormonism and Islam” its long but its worth it to watch it! God is One!

  219. Bureyeanne Says:

    [..YouTube..] I doubt it. The Koran conflicts with the Book of Mormon on fundamental issues related to the nature of God. Whoever produced that video is probably very ignorant of both religions.

  220. Bureyeanne Says:

    [..YouTube..] Your position and argument is the same Evangelical Christians say about both Mohammad and Joseph Smith, No more prophets, no more books.

    Have you considered that God can say and do whatever He wants despite what some scholars might say?

  221. Bureyeanne Says:

    [..YouTube..] dead men don’t lie

  222. Bureyeanne Says:

    [..YouTube..] You are only half right. Had 6 of the apostles stayed in the church Brigham Young would have never become president of the Church.

  223. Bureyeanne Says:

    [..YouTube..] no “Mormonism for dummies” is a book produced as part of the “dummies” series.

    Also a lot of early Christian texts were hidden because they were considered too sacred for the general public. If You read Joshua for example it skips around. The first chapter written was probably 22. Evidence that a lot off books simply hidden or destroyed.

  224. Bureyeanne Says:

    [..YouTube..] That is from Time Mag of summer of 97. Look at the context. Not something taught, not something emphasized. That isn’t to say that isn’t doctrine. Just not outwardly preached to the public. You are turning an honest statement into a lie.

  225. Bureyeanne Says:

    [..YouTube..] Oh really? How about all the references to corn in the bible? It probably means some sort of grain, but not corn in the modern context. Otherwise the bible is outright lie.

  226. Bureyeanne Says:

    [..YouTube..] That is like saying you don’t need a central government. You only need God. I’d love to see you argue that in a court of law.

  227. Bureyeanne Says:

    [..YouTube..] Sure, and London England appears in the Harry Potter universe as well.

  228. Bureyeanne Says:

    [..YouTube..] Stephen

  229. Bureyeanne Says:

    [..YouTube..] I know. The Bible is full of problems mostly from being written 100′s of years after the fact. Sarah and Rebecca, Adam, Eve, even Moses might just be literary titles. Also 40 years, 40 days, 40 miles all just to an accident? Did nothing happen from 4K BC to 2KBC? It all happens in about 10 chapters in the Gen.

  230. dfwsunking Says:

    [..YouTube..] @Bureyeanne
    The question was: Is this the teaching of the church today, that God the Father was once a man like we are?
    Hinckley’s response: I dont know that we teach it. I dont know that we emphasize it. I havent heard it discussed for a long time in public discourse. I dont know. I dont know all the circumstances under which that statement was made. I understand the philosophical background behind it. But I dont know a lot about it and I dont know that others know a lot about it.

  231. dfwsunking Says:

    [..YouTube..] @Bureyeanne

    Levitates? What exactly is a levitate and how do I become one. I’d love to be able to float.

    You’re talking about something in Levitical law which Jesus did away with with the Messianic law. Were the 12 apostles all of the tribe of Levi? No! Did they get the priesthood? Yes. What does that tell you?

  232. Bureyeanne Says:

    [..YouTube..] The AmazingAthiest calls Jesus the amazing Catering man. Who could supply and endless amount of fish, bread and wine. Insults aren’t going to change anyone’s opinion.

  233. dfwsunking Says:

    [..YouTube..] @dfwsunking

    I mean to say Mosiac law but you get the point. Why did Joseph Smith give Elias Abel the priesthood if blacks weren’t supposed to have it yet?

  234. Bureyeanne Says:

    [..YouTube..] @dfwsunking

    Some Hindu sects believe in levitation. Go to India.
    First, don’t be a pompous prick. Second, it means that the New Testament times are different than the Old Testament times. Even so back then God must have been a raciest by your rational to have only allowed those men related to Levi govern the temple.

  235. Bureyeanne Says:

    [..YouTube..] @dfwsunking

    That is because that doctrine is only found in one line, one verse of the Book of Mormon.

  236. dfwsunking Says:

    [..YouTube..] @Bureyeanne

    It’s also found in the D&C Section 132, the King Follet Discourse (previously canonized scripture but later removed). Nice try. I can recall numerous lessons where this principle was taught so for Hinckley to say “I don’t know that we teach it” is a flat-out lie.

  237. Bureyeanne Says:

    [..YouTube..] Wo, the King Follet sermon not discourse. It was at Mr. Follet’s funeral anyway not an official declaration or canonized scripture.
    D&C 132 doesn’t mention the Pre-exalted state of God the Father. Even so, the reference to man is to say that those exalted will be above the angles in their ability to govern. It doesn’t say they progress past a need for God.

  238. imtherealthing Says:

    [..YouTube..] @dfwsunking

    @datwitsucking

    St. Irenaeus – “If the Word has been made man, it is so that men may be made gods” (Adv. Haer, V. Pref.)

    St. Athanasius repeats the EXACT same thing in the 4th century word for word.

    In the 5th century St. Cyril of Alexandria:
    says we shall become sons by “participation” (methexis).

    The DOCTRINE of (Theosis) or Deification was believed by MOST early christians and they point to MANY scriptures to support this belief both in the OTand NT

  239. myeyepie Says:

    [..YouTube..] updated DNA evidence 2009
    watch?v=zyhyxAtJw6I

  240. imtherealthing Says:

    [..YouTube..] @myeyepie

    um..those links do not work..send me a pm

  241. myeyepie Says:

    [..YouTube..] open a youtube vid any vid.
    replace the portion at the end of the link with the following and it will take you to the vid.
    watch?v=zyhyxAtJw6I

    Hey man I have gotta say you are seriously prolific. your all over the anti’s on most any video I see. LOL you go bro!

  242. imtherealthing Says:

    [..YouTube..] @myeyepie

    thanks :)

    I will leave the rest of you to be the nice guys..while I play hard ball. I use to be one of those anti-mormons myself..so I understand their mentality..the only way to get through those THICK SKULLS is to bash them in.

  243. Bureyeanne Says:

    [..YouTube..] @imtherealthing
    As much as that doesn’t sound Christian it makes sense. In the case of evil (or those under the influence of evil) they only understand advance or retreat, ergo victory or failure with no in between. So in their case, turning the other cheek if you will, is retreat, weakness and failure. I think the gospel should be taught boldly, nobly and independent. We don’t love people into the gospel, we challenge them to except the gospel.

  244. mackiwaki Says:

    [..YouTube..] Mormon is a person, and do you really think a FOURTEEN year old boy that is uneducated, wrote this amazing book? I think not!

  245. mackiwaki Says:

    [..YouTube..] That God lived and walked the Earth is in the Bible…. Wow.

  246. moparmonster1965 Says:

    [..YouTube..] Well, with the KJV as an example, Smith was able to construct the BOM with his vivid imagination, to which his mother testifies. Since we find so much of the New Testament in the BOM, how do you suppose it got there?

  247. moparmonster1965 Says:

    [..YouTube..] And he hasn’t accomplished anything yet!

    He claims to have once been an ‘anti-Mormon,’ but like everything else in Mormonism, there’s nothing to substantiate that either.

  248. imtherealthing Says:

    [..YouTube..] @JesusIsTheOnlyWay4U

    ON ONENESS”

    John 17: 11, 21-22
    “And now I am no more in the world, but these are in the world, and I come to thee. Holy Father, keep through thine own name those whom thou hast given me, that THEY may be ONE, AS WE ARE.
    That THEY “ALL” may be ONE; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be ONE IN US: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me.
    And the glory which thou gavest me I have given them; that THEY MAY BE ONE, even as we are ONE

  249. JesusIsTheOnlyWay4U Says:

    [..YouTube..] Schooling doesnt make you right. The Holy Spirit is beyond any formal education. All you need is the Bible. Since there is a possiblity that you pray in some one elses name, you might not have the Holy Spirit.

    1 Corinthians 2:14 NIV
    The man without the Spirit does not accept the things that come from the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him, and he cannot understand them, because they are spiritually discerned.

    You are by far the most upset person on youtube.

  250. JesusIsTheOnlyWay4U Says:

    [..YouTube..] I do read and understand this scripture. Jesus is talking about all believers.

  251. imtherealthing Says:

    [..YouTube..] @JesusIsTheOnlyWay4U

    Hypocrite..take the BEAM out of thine own eye rather than the sliver I hold.

    Upset?..upset at liars like yourself…what makes me laugh is that you mention the Holy Ghost and yet FAIL to listen to the Holy Ghost – because if you did…you would no longer adhere to the FALSE teachings of the TRINITY.

    I was once an anti-mormon evangelical..I know your mind-set quite well. I know you have to convince yourself of your lies…when I finally humbled myself – I became LDS

  252. imtherealthing Says:

    [..YouTube..] @JesusIsTheOnlyWay4U

    Col.2:8
    Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.

  253. imtherealthing Says:

    [..YouTube..] @JesusIsTheOnlyWay4U

    1 Pet. 5: 8
    Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour:

  254. imtherealthing Says:

    [..YouTube..] @JesusIsTheOnlyWay4U

    Acts 7:51-53
    Ye STIFFNECKED and uncircumcised IN HEART and EARS, YE DO ALWAYS RESIST the HOLY GHOST: as your fathers did, SO DO YE.

    Which of the PROPHETS have not your fathers PERSECUTED and they have slain them which shewed before of the coming of the Just One; of whom ye have been now the betrayers and murderers:

    Who have RECIEVED the law BY THE DISPOSTION OF ANGELS, and have NOT KEPT IT

  255. imtherealthing Says:

    [..YouTube..] @JesusIsTheOnlyWay4U

    Acts 7:54

    When they heard these things, they were cut to the heart, and they gnashed on him with their teeth.

  256. imtherealthing Says:

    [..YouTube..] @JesusIsTheOnlyWay4U

    John 17:3
    And this is LIFE ETERNAL, that THEY might KNOW THEE the ONLY TRUE GOD, and Jesus Christ, whom THOU HAST SENT.

  257. imtherealthing Says:

    [..YouTube..] @JesusIsTheOnlyWay4U

    Ever think that your Hellenized god could be just that..a god made up by wicked men to destroy people’s faith in the TRUE GOD..as we learn..it is LIFE ETERNAL to know who GOD “&” Jesus Christ is..God is not supposed to be a mystery like you trinitarians teach…

  258. imtherealthing Says:

    [..YouTube..] @JesusIsTheOnlyWay4U

    Matt. 16: 4
    A “WICKED” and “ADULTEROUS” generation “SEEKETH AFTER A SIGN”; and there shall no sign be given unto it, …”.

  259. JesusIsTheOnlyWay4U Says:

    [..YouTube..] John 14:20 On that day you will realize that I am in my Father, and you are in me, and I am in you.
    Breakdown…
    When we stand before him, I will realize that Jesus and the Father are one, my sins have been coverd by Jesus, and His Spirit is in me, and the Spirit is him. This verse shows the three in one.

  260. JesusIsTheOnlyWay4U Says:

    [..YouTube..] this scripture would be a good one for Joseph Smith.

  261. JesusIsTheOnlyWay4U Says:

    [..YouTube..] he has redeemed your soul. are you trusting in him only?

  262. imtherealthing Says:

    [..YouTube..] @JesusIsTheOnlyWay4U

    2 Nephi 33:6

    I glory in plainness; I glory in truth; I glory in my Jesus, for he hath redeemed my soul from hell.

  263. JesusIsTheOnlyWay4U Says:

    [..YouTube..] Jesus Christ, as it is written in the Bible, did die for your sin.

  264. JesusIsTheOnlyWay4U Says:

    [..YouTube..] do you have any opinions on 3 in 1 with this verse???

  265. imtherealthing Says:

    [..YouTube..] @JesusIsTheOnlyWay4U

    RE: Jesus died for my sins

    No kidding?..

    oh please..give it up…that is CENTRAL to our faith..which is “THE FAITH” Christ preached…your nicene jesus who is part of a 3-headed god teaches all one has to do is believe and you are saved…not the GOSPEL Christ taught and lead by EXAMPLE..one needs to have faith in him and REPENT and be baptized and recieve the HOly ghost by hte laying on of hands..all of which we do.

  266. imtherealthing Says:

    [..YouTube..] @JesusIsTheOnlyWay4U

    Jesus said “If ye love me, keep my commandments” John 14:15
    Now if he meant just believe in him..it would have read:

    “If ye love me, just believe in me” – unfortunately it DOESN’T – you FALSE christians do not understand the GOSPEL (good news) – he not only died for us to save us, but he also set the EXAMPLE for us to follow in WORD and “DEED”..something I did not nor do I see today in your false christianity

  267. JesusIsTheOnlyWay4U Says:

    [..YouTube..] John 3:5 Jesus answered, “I tell you the truth, no one can enter the kingdom of God unless he is born of water *AND* the Spirit.
    6.Flesh gives birth to flesh (natural birth/ breaking of the water), but the Spirit gives birth to spirit (accepting the holy spirit).

  268. imtherealthing Says:

    [..YouTube..] @JesusIsTheOnlyWay4U
    You are not telling me anything that I already know. Are you going to answer my questions I posed to you or not?

  269. JesusIsTheOnlyWay4U Says:

    [..YouTube..] Matthew 22:36-40 “Teacher, which is the great commandment in the Law?” And He said to him, “‘You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your mind.’ “This is the great and foremost commandment. “The second is like it, ‘You shall love your neighbor as yourself.’ “On these two commandments depend the whole Law and the Prophets.”

  270. JesusIsTheOnlyWay4U Says:

    [..YouTube..] Im not disagreeing with you at all that we should do good works and do our best to keep the commandments. What im saying is they all mean nothing for salvation without Jesus. One that has the Spirit should bear fruit. There may be a period of time where there is no fruit, but at some point works will be shown. However, no amount of works will ever merit our entrance into heaven. Its only through Jesus Christ that we can enter.

  271. imtherealthing Says:

    [..YouTube..] @JesusIsTheOnlyWay4U

    No kidding..we LDS know that it is through the GRACE of Christ. But we also recognize that we also need to do our best…Christ’s atonement fills the gap between our best and our failure.

  272. Bureyeanne Says:

    [..YouTube..] That is your rational against the Book of Mormon?
    The Book of Mormon is a story of Isrealites.
    You really should try a little harder.

  273. Bureyeanne Says:

    [..YouTube..] Ennt. Thanks for playing. We have some fine parting gifts for you.

    In late in the Bible (and I can get you exact references if you need) new Apostles are called as early Apostles are killed. Thus making more than 12 apostles.

  274. olverafam Says:

    [..YouTube..] Mormons are not Christians. They believe in a perverted view of the true biblical Jesus. There have NOT been any prophets after Jesus. Brigham Young and Joseph Smith are nothing more than perverted, polygamistic people who felt it was their Divine Right to rewrite the word of the one, true BIBLICAL God. I hope you realize that they are burning in Hell right now. Being tortured by jesus’s ” spirit brother”. Your book is a fraud and your religion is based on two whackjobs’ opinions of God.

  275. olverafam Says:

    [..YouTube..] Joseph smith is infact a liar

  276. Bureyeanne Says:

    [..YouTube..] @olverafam

    How is someone a factual liar?

  277. medomedoMAN Says:

    [..YouTube..] you guys calm down and think for a sec, i might seemed so offending down there on me saying straight up to you guys that j.Smith wasn’t a prophet r even god had send him to guide people to reality, but think about it for a sec, how many kinds of christens now a day, so many right?, some believe on trinity and other not only Jesus and every and each having their own sense to make people believe on the church, but when Christianity came down to prophet Jesus (PBUH) it came down one book, one bible

  278. medomedoMAN Says:

    [..YouTube..] not a diverted bible , each are different from others,
    and after Jesus died the followers changed on both bible and what Jesus said to them, so 600 after Christianity god send the warning to the world, the light the holly book of Quran, to show all of those who dont believe on god at all the reality of god, and to show the people of the holy book what they had changed and lied about god, some said in the past that all christens are sons of god and god is there father

  279. medomedoMAN Says:

    [..YouTube..] and the jaws said on the past we are the most loved people from god both wishing to go to heaven so easily by what they said, then after Islam Came with the holly book of Quran j.Smith came after Islam with 1200 years saying that god send to him, so why god didnt speak about Quran? How it makes sense that god wont be speaking about his last messenger 1200 years ago which was Mohamed (PBUH)??

  280. medomedoMAN Says:

    [..YouTube..] People there is only one god, Mohamed(PBUH) was his Messenger after Jesus(PBUH) both loved prophets and servants of god! And think about what if all you guys believe on is just some body lie who made it up and then it took so many people away from the reality of god! Islam dont ask people to do anything bad or anything wrong its just make all human believing that god is one perfect god cant be having sons or daughters

  281. medomedoMAN Says:

    [..YouTube..] and we are all his slaves and he will mercy whomever he want to and he will put in hell whomever he wants to, whoever believe on what im telling and really got to know about what Islam ask people for, holly book of Quran since 1400 years ago its same book, if you got one from any place of the world then you got other from other country they will be both same all are same no change not ever dot missing, im caring about each of you, im offending or attacking more than inviting and advising!

  282. medomedoMAN Says:

    [..YouTube..] * im NOT offending or attacking more than inviting and advising!

  283. medomedoMAN Says:

    [..YouTube..] btw Prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him, said,”The Last Day will not come until ISLAM has entered into every home on earth.”Today ISLAM is the world’s fastest growing religion – Even after Sept. 11, 2001.

  284. Bureyeanne Says:

    [..YouTube..] @medomedoMAN

    There are dozens of different versions of Islam as well.

  285. medomedoMAN Says:

    [..YouTube..] My friend, Im speaking about the holly book itself and that make the believe of the followers of that holly book, but still people can do it different ways, like Quran is one book for all whatever versions of Muslims you know, i believe that the suiny Muslims are the most near to real rolls of Islam, but the idea is to be on the right way of thinking of god as he is, not so far from the reality of god himself! And living in hope! Think about what I wrote down there for a sec!

  286. LDSapologist71 Says:

    [..YouTube..] Joseph Smith was a true prophet of God, and Mohammed wasn’t half the man Joseph was.

  287. LDSapologist71 Says:

    [..YouTube..] Joseph Smith was the MAN. He was courageous, bold, teachable, and willing to do all the Lord asked, no matter how hard. I look forward to meeting him, and gladly praise his name, as does Jesus Christ himself.

    FAIRLDSdotORG
    for the truth

  288. imtherealthing Says:

    [..YouTube..] @medomedoMAN

    I am sorry my friend but Islam is not of God. I believe it is of Satan. we see by the fruits – or the actions of many Muslims in the world the evil Islam brings. Look at your countries – most are poor and most are ignorant. Look at Christian nations and see the differance. Jesus Christ is the Son of God – Mohammad may have had the truth at one time, but his followers corrupted the Qu’ran (changed it). Many versions of the Qu’ran existed but later were destroyed – that is history

  289. Bureyeanne Says:

    [..YouTube..] @imtherealthing
    Maybe so, but consider there are various different Muslim groups. Some far more radical than others. I’d hate to be lumped into the Westboro Baptist Church for example.

  290. Bureyeanne Says:

    [..YouTube..] @medomedoMAN
    Yes actually I agree somewhat. There is overwhelming evidence of scripture burning and out right selection of books in Bible. Several dozen books quoted but not found there in.
    Of course my perspective is that shows the need for the Book of Mormon.

  291. dfwsunking Says:

    [..YouTube..] @Bureyeanne

    Jesus prophesied of a falling away JS didn’t. furthermore, according to JS, he trumps Jesus.
    “I have more to boast of than ever any man had. I am the only man that has ever been able to keep a whole church together since the days of Adam. A large majority of the whole have stood by me. Neither Paul, John, Peter, nor Jesus ever did it. I boast that no man ever did such a work as I. The followers of Jesus ran away from Him; but the Latter-day Saints never ran away from me yet.”

  292. Bureyeanne Says:

    [..YouTube..] Where is your reference of this so called quote? I don’t believe a single line of the above. It isn’t valid for a multiple reasons. For one there were a lot of people that left the church early on. It simply isn’t a claim Joseph Smith could have made. My bet is someone down the line was, “lying for God”. Back in the time of Sam Clements aka Mark Twain, it was very common to simply fabricate a story mixing truth with fiction. EX: Newspapers made money, so why did they care if the story was true?

  293. dfwsunking Says:

    [..YouTube..] @Bureyeanne

    (History of the Church, Vol. 6, p. 408-409)

    It’s not fiction.

  294. medomedoMAN Says:

    [..YouTube..] well thats not True my friend Allah is the God, Mohamed is His slave, his messenger, Just like Jesus, btw that son of god thing doesnt make sense at all (will explain).other thing of god changes doesnt make sense too man, god needn’t to be more greater or enlargement , god created you&me, he knows Everything, he own everything, he gave you everything, how come he gave you that intelligent Mind you have , and then you think of him that way of being in Increasing speed!?

  295. medomedoMAN Says:

    [..YouTube..] About Jesus part I will tell you something,if god will want to send a son as you believe and christens believe. why he didnt send that son the 1st he created n earth as to make that son take sins of all the humans who came after him?but as Quran explained the same way of Jesus(PBUH) is Adam(PBUH), god created him out of nothing just god said to him “Be”he become,then evi she came out from a father and no mother like she came out from the lift rip of Adam,why Adam isnt the son of god then?

  296. Bureyeanne Says:

    [..YouTube..] Unlike the rest of Christianity, the LDS believe that Adam was a prophet. He was second only to Jesus in Heaven before the creation of the world. So in essence God sent Adam first to establish the law. However people are imperfect thus the need for a savior. In addition each generation has had some sort of falling way and need for a restoration through various prophets.

  297. medomedoMAN Says:

    [..YouTube..] see Bureyeanne, there soooo many things Invented everywhere, and truth me you will hear more and more by the time. some Mormon believe that there is a prophet in Utah now a days,but i think the guy is working on making a god book still! It will come out one day!
    Oh All People as Quran say do argue a lot,why dont we all ignore all of that and just pray for one god who created all of us, with no caring of any others whomever they are,God only will help us, no other HUMANS can,Mercy of Allah/God

  298. Bureyeanne Says:

    [..YouTube..] @dfwsunking

    Bud, I have very book 3 inches away. It says nothing like that on those pages.

  299. medomedoMAN Says:

    [..YouTube..] i did watch it all My friend, and i read so many books of that topics too, there is one vide like 2:30 hours of it all, i watched it, but Honestly don’t you think that Dr peterson.(i remember that was his name) wasn’t giving much evidence about the believe than just the believe itself! comparing to shyl Aly? whats yoyur comment on that VIdeo?

  300. Bureyeanne Says:

    [..YouTube..] @medomedoMAN

    Dr. Peterson is an LDS scholar but not an official representative of the church. It seems that although you might cringe, there is more similar then there is different.

  301. Bureyeanne Says:

    [..YouTube..] @medomedoMAN

    Even so matters of faith can not be proven by virtue of argument and reason alone. Spiritual matters are conformed spiritually. Proof is a funny thing to the nonbeliever. Moses for example called upon God for various heavenly interventions that were dismissed.

  302. dfwsunking Says:

    [..YouTube..] @Bureyeanne

    Really? What does it say then?

  303. medomedoMAN Says:

    [..YouTube..] that make sense to you?? why the son isn’t the 1st one ever tho so he be mercy for all Human?? and what about the people btw the time of Jesus and Adam? (considering as you say that Jesus is son but he isn’t)?

  304. Bureyeanne Says:

    [..YouTube..] @dfwsunking

    Bud I just searched all references to Joseph Smith and Boast, in all known records of Joseph Smith Jr., Joseph Smith Sr, and Joseph F. Smith. At best I could find an off the cuff remark about being able to beat any man in Illinois at stick pulling.

    Consider however, that I found 2-3 quotes about condemning boasting in any form unless it was boasting of our God.

    In short that so called quote you have is an outright lie.

  305. dfwsunking Says:

    [..YouTube..] @Bureyeanne

    You said you have Vol. 6 of the History of the Church in front of you. Now you’re claiming you looked online. Where exactly did you search? Let me guess? Lds . org? Like they’re going to advertise it…

  306. Bureyeanne Says:

    [..YouTube..] @dfwsunking

    Those pages are referring to a speeches by ex-senator Kerns believed to be written by Senator Frank J. Cannon 1905 called, “In defense of the faith and the saints”

  307. Bureyeanne Says:

    [..YouTube..] @dfwsunking

    So now you are making a censorship claim? If so then how do you know your so called quote is valid?

  308. Bureyeanne Says:

    [..YouTube..] @dfwsunking

    NEITHER IS THE BOOK OF MORMON: ANOTHER TESTAMENT OF JESUS CHRIST.

  309. medomedoMAN Says:

    [..YouTube..] Can you take that one chance and get to know about Islam itself and then you will look at things with different eyes.Go on that site ,”whyislam,org”..Faith and believe as has to be proved, people don’t believe on things blindly thats why i studied religions and i end up Muslim, Thank

  310. medomedoMAN Says:

    [..YouTube..] *Thank Allah for that! When you asked a Question about your religion and you dont have true evidence about what you say from where ever then you should know that you need to know about others! Please take that chance just read what things on the site you wont going to lose anything!

  311. Bureyeanne Says:

    [..YouTube..] Spiritual matters are conformed spiritually.

    We have proof such as golden plates found in Turkey in 1945 over 100 years after the death of Joseph Smith as just one example. However such doesn’t line up people to join. Proof can only come from God to an individual.

  312. medomedoMAN Says:

    [..YouTube..] Prophet Mohamed send to people 1st with Islam but America wasn’t discovered on that time so Mohamed (PBUH) message didn’t go there, then here he come Smith came out on 1800z saying god send to him, but by looking at both religions we will find that is one religion but coped by smith and christened by the bible believe of Jesus son of god and also same way kinda of similarity of the story that smith made to make it look like Prophet Mohamed! lats look together on the religions common!

  313. medomedoMAN Says:

    [..YouTube..] -Both claim to have been restored
    -Both were restored through a prophet
    -The prophet wanted to know the true religion
    -An angel visited the Prophet to start his mission
    -Both prophets brought forth holy books by divine power
    -Latter day saints have in their canon, The book of abraham, and of moses, and says of them being translated from scrolls. Islam recognizes such scripture, the Suhuf.

  314. medomedoMAN Says:

    [..YouTube..] -Both were given a god given directive to emigrate due to violence
    -both included practicing polygamy
    -both were poorly educated
    -both new holy books were the most correct of any book.
    -both claim previous scripture as corrupted and unreliable
    -both had a succession crisis

    so baisecly Mormons are Muslis just if they belive on that GOD IS ONE and we are all his Humans/ slaves not sons..????

  315. medomedoMAN Says:

    [..YouTube..] i believe that Turkey is a Muslims Country , why such a plates will be found there Mr?! how that can be where smith lived his life in the US?

  316. Bureyeanne Says:

    [..YouTube..] EXACTLY! Thus the Book of Mormon must be true.

    According to the Book of Mormon a small group of people left from probably the southern part of what is now Oman, or Yemen. When them they took the records of prophets with them printed on Brass plates. They recorded their writings on Gold plates. No one had ever heard of anything printed on gold pages until the discovery of a couple of books in the middle east. Partly validating Joseph Smith’s “wild claims”. Yet the proof isn’t enough for people.

  317. feces4u Says:

    [..YouTube..] I smell bullshit!!!!

  318. LDSapologist71 Says:

    [..YouTube..] The fact is, that by the power of God I translated the Book of Mormon from hieroglyphics, the knowledge of which was lost to the world, in which wonderful event I stood alone, an unlearned youth, to combat the worldly wisdom and multiplied ignorance of eighteen centuries, with a new revelation, which would open the eyes of [the world], and make plain the old paths, wherein if a man walk in all the ordinances of God blameless, he shall inherit eternal life.
    -Prophet Joseph Smith

  319. Macedon2010 Says:

    [..YouTube..] DNA Analisys Show That American Natives Came From Asia,Not Israel.What About That ?….

  320. dougdcutler Says:

    [..YouTube..] The Circle of Ancient Iranian Studies have found other gold plates. Imagine that.

    “An Achaemenid Golden Codex Recovered from Smugglers”. From CAIS ARCHAEOLOGICAL & CULTURAL NEWS

  321. 2grace4me Says:

    [..YouTube..] interesting!

  322. dougdcutler Says:

    [..YouTube..] @ Macedon2010. From a genetic perspective the DNA argument is very weak at best.

    I am personally glad it is a “hang up” for those that kick against the pricks because it exposes those who are continually looking for a “nail in the coffin” argument to reassure their personal weak foundation.

    For honest truth seekers always are led to the truth which includes the Book of Mormon and the insincere/ignorant continue to spew their same old regurgitation.

  323. dougdcutler Says:

    [..YouTube..] In addition, man-made science has fatal shortcomings like carbon dating that rely on “constants”.

    There is no study that tested Nephi’s DNA with a contemporary Native American. If there was such a genetic study it would have to show the population is in a Hardy-Weinberg equilibrium. Five “continued constants” that cannot be changed over time.

  324. dougdcutler Says:

    [..YouTube..] Even anti-Mormons or people that are anti-Mormonism realize the Book of Mormon populations are definitely not in a Hardy-Weinberg equilibrium.

    The truth remains. The Book of Mormon is the word of God and Joseph Smith was a prophet.

    I hope and pray you discover that truth for yourself instead of waiting to be taught it in the Spirit world.

  325. Bureyeanne Says:

    [..YouTube..] Fascinating. Such is very good to know. Plus it smashes the idea that just because something has yet to be discovered means it ceases to exist.

    I caution, 10,000 people walked out on Jesus Christ. 5000 of which were fed loaves and fishes the previous day. Proof isn’t enough for people. In the end the only proof is the Holy Ghost to one open to receive Him.

  326. LDSapologist71 Says:

    [..YouTube..] The Maya people were advanced in knowledge. Not all people came across the land connect in Siberia.

    Michael D. Coe noted in his text ‘The MAYA Volume VI” says this “The Siberian land connect isn’t the issue, they must have used maritime routes.”

    In other words came over by boat just like Lehi and Nephi claimed. They have also found DNA that is not indiginous to asia down in central america.

  327. pulsipd Says:

    [..YouTube..] Strange, I thought he used a hat with a seer stone.

  328. LDSapologist71 Says:

    [..YouTube..] The seer stone did NOT work unless Joseph was in tune with the spirit. Only when Joseph sought to glorify the works of God did the work on the translation continue.

  329. Bureyeanne Says:

    [..YouTube..] @LDSapologist71

    He also only used the seer stone for a short while.

  330. supermonkey100 Says:

    [..YouTube..] I use pages of book of mormon as toilet paper btw….

  331. Bureyeanne Says:

    [..YouTube..] Right, and you are so sure that you don’t fit into that group. Have you considered that anyone can use that scripture?

  332. Bureyeanne Says:

    [..YouTube..] @supermonkey100

    Big deal you feel that way about every religion. Why waist your time on this video or any other religious video for that matter?

  333. Bureyeanne Says:

    [..YouTube..] @tnfellow
    right, and no one else could just as easy use the same scripture pointed at you?

  334. medomedoMAN Says:

    [..YouTube..] man you are a sick mind, that all j smith thing is a copy from prophet Mohamed and Quran thats why he didn’t mention a word a about the book of Quran, and as long as he took the rolls of god which was in Quran there religion have to make sense even its a copy of the rolls of Quran, you can’t see that yet my friend. and no body will see that ex thse who god open there minds and seee with there eyes!

  335. LDSapologist71 Says:

    [..YouTube..] Mohammed wasn’t a true prophet, and he never even once communed with Jehovah! Unlike true prophets like Isaiah, Jeremiah, Daniel and Moses all spoke to God Face to face. Joseph Smith got his answers from God and was called to be a prophet.

    Mohammed got all information from some spirit claiming to be gabriel. Go figure Mohammed was decieved.

  336. Bureyeanne Says:

    [..YouTube..] I now know where you stand on that issue. I hope that still means Islam can leads you to follow “the religion of peace”.

  337. dougdcutler Says:

    [..YouTube..] Does your favorite video “Are Atheists the Intelligentsia Among Us? teach you how to do this?

    Or was this brilliance taught to you in your “Sexy body massage” video with the description “A hot boy gets massaged by another man”.?

    Homosexuality is an abomination so of course you are going to be upset against the Church who sees the gay mafia as a bunch of whiners forcing their lifestyle on a society who is disgusted by it!.

    Continue your Godless ways. You have that right.

  338. dougdcutler Says:

    [..YouTube..] Of course you do feces.

  339. Sennuba Says:

    [..YouTube..] Galatians 1:7 says “Even if we or a messenger out of heaven may proclaim good news to you which is different from what we did proclaim to you – let him be anathema!”

    Satan has his own gospel(s), and tries to distort, dilute and destroy the true gospel of Jesus Christ in any way possible – while introducing new revelation(s) for leading men and women toward vanity and falsehood. The Qur’an and Book of Mormon are good examples of satanic texts which have deceived unwary souls.

  340. dougdcutler Says:

    [..YouTube..] @ Sennuba you are a walking contradiction.

    In the About Me: section in your profile you state: “Most of all, I read religious scriptures: The Bible, The Book of Mormon, and The Qur’an”

    Are they “religious scriptures” or as you now say, “satanic texts”?

    The Book of Mormon and Bible are the word of God. End of story.

  341. amfiringmahlazer Says:

    [..YouTube..] nothing can ever prove the book of mormon to be a con. It is too grand of a work, too strong, and too meaningful to be a work of fiction in itself. Despite my education I could never have the ability to sit and write such a book, even with resources such as the internet, libraries, and modern literature skills. So how could a 19th century farmboy with no resources as such?

    ANYONE WHO THINKS A 19TH CENTURY FARMBOY COULD FABRICATRE A GRAND BOOK THAT HAS LEAD MILLIONS TO FOLLOW IT, IS AN IDIOT!

  342. footballheath20 Says:

    [..YouTube..] Absolutely on point, Mormons are being deceived, you mean well we are not attacking you, but we are attacking the false scriptures that you believe. Look into any examination of the original Mormon texts.

  343. dougdcutler Says:

    [..YouTube..] @footballheath20

    It is an oxymoron to call them false scriptures.

    There was one translation from reformed Egyptian and English and grammar corrections.

    The only examination needed is to actually read the Book of Mormon and pray about it.

  344. amfiringmahlazer Says:

    [..YouTube..] If our church isn’t true, then no christian church truly is true, why?

    Because like it or not a great apostasy did exist. Aside from that of the new testament a ridiclous amount of “christian” doctrine was derived from roman and greek beliefs and creeds that were not of god, and roman persecution did wreck the early churches, and distort them. It really happened, things like the trinity, original sin, etc, are utter garbage. Meaning if we are not true, christianity isn’t real…

  345. omiolo Says:

    [..YouTube..] Ice Castles help family pay for LDS missions

  346. omiolo Says:

    [..YouTube..] MIDWAY, Utah — Brent Christensen is using ice and magic to pay for his two sons’ Mormon missions.

    In addition, he’s created something artistically unique — castles made of icicles large enough to walk through.

    They’re currently on display at the Zermatt Resort in Midway, 18 castles made entirely of frozen water.

  347. omiolo Says:

    [..YouTube..] One of the castle towers reaches up 40 feet. After sunset, they are lit, illuminating the natural colors of the ice.

  348. omiolo Says:

    [..YouTube..] “This is something we started when we lived in Alpine,” said Linda Christensen, “We had two missionaries out at once and we have six kids. To pay for their missions, we rented our house, moved to Pleasant Grove to an old, old 1900′s house across from the junior high where we could live for nothing.”

  349. omiolo Says:

    [..YouTube..] A Foundation of Faith

    If we do not have a deep foundation of faith and a solid testimony of truth, we may have difficulty withstanding the harsh storms and icy winds of adversity which inevitably come to each of us.

  350. Bureyeanne Says:

    [..YouTube..] @amfiringmahlazer

    Absolutely. People over the ages have just assumed the cross was the cross of Jesus. it is actually the sun burst of Horis.

  351. supermonkey100 Says:

    [..YouTube..] I don’t see how GBLT activists campaigning for equal rights really affects anyone else in society. I’ve yet to hear a viewpoint against equality for GLBT people that wasn’t extremely flimsy in reasoning at best. What? It might affect the policy making abilities of religious adoption agencies and wedding photographers?? Please.. That’s just grasping at straws.

  352. supermonkey100 Says:

    [..YouTube..] And why did you assert society as a whole views GLBT people the way you do? The popular vote in california for example in regards to proposition 8, was nearly 50/50. I look forward to the day bigots like yourself become the new minority.

  353. dougdcutler Says:

    [..YouTube..] Lets not distort the truth. You have equal rights and it is a slap in the face to African Americans to compare the gay mafia movement to the civil rights movement.

    Ad populum doesn’t make homosexuality right because it will always be an abomination to God. End of story.

  354. supermonkey100 Says:

    [..YouTube..] Assuming you’re a genuine adherent of those views, you’re an idiot, end of story.

  355. kramd1 Says:

    [..YouTube..] Doug Cutler
    at it again, name caller. Doug I think your problem is your UGLY ,have no friends and spend your time defending a bull shit church.
    DON”T LISTEN TO THIS GUY HE HAS ISSUES.

  356. LDSapologist71 Says:

    [..YouTube..] Look in the mirror, idiot, end of story.

  357. LDSapologist71 Says:

    [..YouTube..] Exo 19:5-6

    5 Now therefore, if ye will obey my voice indeed, and keep my covenant, then ye shall be a peculiar treasure unto me above all people: for all the earth is mine;

    6 And ye shall be unto me a kingdom of priests, and an holy nation. These are the words which thou shalt speak unto the children of Israel.

  358. omiolo Says:

    [..YouTube..] Not every effort to help and heal the Haitians by our medical team was dramatic—but some are. Dr. Dirk Noyes, a cancer surgeon, member of our team, and a friend to the Latter-day Saints, is a veteran of these sorts of rescue missions

  359. omiolo Says:

    [..YouTube..] Several times, he has gone to the scene of natural disasters through Project Hope and worked on hospital ships like the Mercy.

  360. omiolo Says:

    [..YouTube..] In Haiti, he saved three lives in one day, thanks to his practiced medical eye. He walked into a hospital unit with former Haitian missionary Willow Walsh-Hughes as translator, and saw three who were dying from various intra-abdominal catastrophes if they didnt get immediately to surgery.

  361. DrCaustic Says:

    [..YouTube..] We don’t take issue with the human side of your GBLT community, SM. It’s that awful agenda you keep parading that has us up in arms. Marriage is between man and woman. It’s right morally, it’s right spiritually, and it’s right logically. The proper question you should be asking yourself is, “I’ve yet to hear a viewpoint that makes gay marriage, logical.”

  362. supermonkey100 Says:

    [..YouTube..] Yes, the gays are maliciously conspiring to secure their rights in everyone’s faces. You don’t really have feet to stand on when you use the words morally and logically. There’s nothing moral or logical about denying two consenting adults that are in love the right to have their relationship legally recognized, even if it were the majority of people who were denying it. Spiritually? Explain what’s logical to me about belief in resurrection, fairy tale creation stories, spirits, eternal life,ect?

  363. dougdcutler Says:

    [..YouTube..] Again, with the “securing their rights”, you have them so stop comparing the gay mafia movement to the Civil Rights Movement.

    Why don’t you just admit that you are a homosexual instead of saying “their” or “they”.

    Your video on your profile “Sexy body massage” with the description “A hot boy gets massaged by another man” gave that away.

    I also wouldn’t be preaching about morals while denying the existence of God and that homosexuality is an abomination that decays our society.

  364. gbtusa9966 Says:

    [..YouTube..] this is the most stupid fucked up religon in the history of all mankind…scientology makes more sense than it……and i really dont understand why the hell anyone could believe this bullshit written by some fuckin faggot reading out of a hat …..mormons are u all reatards or do u actually buy into this stupid bullshit ..please help me out …….or is it more of a family and social thing that u have to believe …idk how do u believe this shit try and explain it to me mormonism = retards

  365. supermonkey100 Says:

    [..YouTube..] I may be gay but that’s just one aspect of who I am, it really reflects negatively on your cognitive capacity that you define people wholly by their sexuality. You probably think that my sexuality automatically invalidates my arguments. Oh no, I favorited a video where a guy gets a “same-sex massage”, how aberrant and offensive! I strongly believe you can be moral and a good person without investing in a bogus set of baseless religious beliefs that seem to me to be as credible as Santa.

  366. supermonkey100 Says:

    [..YouTube..] And the gay rights movement isn’t a “mafia”, nor do we have full equality in most countries around the globe. Your personal disgust with gay people and what they do in bed with their partners doesn’t mean that it is an abomination. As well as the man-made scriptures you use to justify that position. Yes, I reject creationism, because I believe it has no place in modern society. Has homosexuality ever led to the deaths of straight people? No. Does religion get scores of people killed? Yes.

  367. LDSapologist71 Says:

    [..YouTube..] Jesus was the Son of God just as he said that we are sons of God. Why? Because scripture teaches us the God is the Father of spirits!!!! Do we have spirits? Yes! Does Jesus have a spirit? Yes! Is Satan a spirit? Yes, sorry about that but he is also a spirit. He was a spirit in heaven with all the spirits, or sons and daughters of God, and was cast out by his rebellious actions (Rev 12:12-15). It is Biblical.

  368. mike2jb Says:

    [..YouTube..] @DrCaustic: “The proper question you should be asking yourself is, ‘I’ve yet to hear a viewpoint that makes gay marriage, logical.’”
    – Well of course that’s not a question, DrC, is it? It’s a statement of your opinion. The fact that you cannot distinguish between the two should be a clue to any reader about the dogmatic place you’re coming from.
    It’s the same place the Mormons come from when they say “Our way is the right way and we’re going to force all our neighbors to obey it.”

  369. wtalady Says:

    [..YouTube..] @supermonkey100 –If it’s just one aspect of who you are then why do you keep throwing it every ones face. That is the problem no one wants to know about.

  370. supermonkey100 Says:

    [..YouTube..] @wtalady–Well no, that’s not correct. I don’t feel the need to tell everyone I’m gay. But if you voice an opinion I disagree with, especially in regards to GLBT issues, I will probably confront you with my own opinions.

  371. wtalady Says:

    [..YouTube..] Most religions are the only thing that is holding this country together now and keeping it from eroding further than it has. Surely you have seen the difference.where God was taken out of schools, families and government we have been taken over by a nasty self centered population where greed, immoral behavior, murder etc are common place. Where children run the streets in gangs and nothing is scared, They deface our country,the flag and anything else they can get their hands on.

  372. wtalady Says:

    [..YouTube..] Children raised in a faith generally become better adults. They have a stronger foundations and are more considerate of their obligations in society. They know why they are here and where they are going, that is the best way I can put it. I believe families can be together forever and we were put here to make choices to grow and become the best we can be.

  373. DrCaustic Says:

    [..YouTube..] No, the gays are maliciously conspiring to press an issue that they had no right to secure in the first place. I have both feet to stand on. I know you heathens hate to hear this, but most American Citizens still adhere to basic Christian concepts. what you are fighting for is wrong. That’s why you are meeting such great resistance. Most of you are like 4 year old children. You don’t understand the implications of your selfishness, and now you’re throwing a tantrum.

  374. DrCaustic Says:

    [..YouTube..] And I reject Evolution because you still haven’t proven that mindless forces created man. Really, the notion that primordial goo created a remarkable thing like a human being, is much stupider than a greater intellect creating a lesser intellect.

  375. supermonkey100 Says:

    [..YouTube..] @DrCaustic I disagree, because evolution actually has something called “evidence” to support it. All you have is the scribblings of some archaic fool. I think any group of people that are denied basic civil rights have the right to campaign for social change. Saying we’re childish, selfish, we have no right to, and that we’re throwing a tantrum really only amounts to you talking out of your ass…

  376. supermonkey100 Says:

    [..YouTube..] @wtalady You think the islamists who obliterated the world trade center is an example of holding society together? How can you honestly believe that religion does anything positive for society? People use it as a justification for social inequality, murder, hatred, ect. Children raised in faith become suicide bombers, lol. Your baseless arguments are catastrophically stupid.

  377. ezetace Says:

    [..YouTube..] I know that my Redeemer lives. I know that Joseph Smith was a prophet and he was called of God.

  378. DrCaustic Says:

    [..YouTube..] @supermonkey100 You know I disagree. Produce the evidence. Shut up about scribblings and archaic fools, and show mr the evidence. Sorry, pal. Gay marriage is not a civil right. That’s why you’re losing in most U.S. states. Stop being childish and repent of your ways.

  379. toddolavi Says:

    [..YouTube..] Mormonism is the avante-garde religion of the world.

    Joseph Smith was uneducated and ignorant to things of the world. He was chosen to bring forth the Book Of Mormon.
    Read it. Embrace it. Study it. It will make you smarter. It will open your eyes.
    Think about church history conceptually. A flock traversing across the United States led to the west to the mountains of Utah. Its awesome and poetic.

  380. gbtusa9966 Says:

    [..YouTube..] @toddolavi no its crazy bullshit written by a stupid fuck who needed money and attention

  381. Bureyeanne Says:

    [..YouTube..] Ridiculous.

  382. omiolo Says:

    [..YouTube..] Kraig Varner, a sculptor who has mastered a range of sculpting genres from figurative to contemporary to portrait work.

  383. omiolo Says:

    [..YouTube..] Blanche Wilson, who has a broad art background and specializes in woodblock printing.

  384. omiolo Says:

    [..YouTube..] They represent a wide variety, Ames said, including “some who are more traditional, some who are more illustrative, some who are sometimes considered more folk artists.”

  385. gbtusa9966 Says:

    [..YouTube..] @Bureyeanne what and mormonism is not??????? u are indeed a retard for even saying that

  386. Bureyeanne Says:

    [..YouTube..] It is of extremely poor taste to use the word retard.
    I see you have time to type 7 question marks but not the time to type “you” properly. Also you don’t define what I was “saying”. (which was actually typed, not said) So you know, ending a sentence in a preposition such as, “that” shows a dramatic lack of linguistic skill. Yet despite all this, you have decided to retort that I am retarded?
    I highly suggest getting an education before any further criticism of any faith, or system of belief.

  387. Bureyeanne Says:

    [..YouTube..] Since you feel that about all religions, so why bother to comment?

  388. desertfrog64 Says:

    [..YouTube..] Eat shit and die Joseph Smith muah hahaha! Joseph smith lickes christainitys butthole

  389. desertfrog64 Says:

    [..YouTube..] yeah and on their way across the usa they were Exterminating the native ppls and enslaving africans, yes thats very awsome and poetic lol, eat shit and die joseph smith and all whites hahaha kill the cracker enslave the white man and wipe them off the planet for they are the minority of the world and barbaric in nature hahaha

  390. Tommyneog Says:

    [..YouTube..] Joseph smith went to hell b/c he was a fag that believed in wrong stuff

  391. Bureyeanne Says:

    [..YouTube..] @Tommyneog

    Fags don’t normally get married so often.

  392. Bureyeanne Says:

    [..YouTube..] @desertfrog64
    I don’t know what you are smoking but I want some.

    Joseph Smith road on horseback hundreds of miles to personally tell President Buchanan to stop slavery.

  393. Tommyneog Says:

    [..YouTube..] @Bureyeanne dont tell me you believe in this shit

  394. Bureyeanne Says:

    [..YouTube..] If you have seen what I have seen, and heard what I have heard you would apologize.

  395. dougdcutler Says:

    [..YouTube..] @Tommyneog

    From your videos, you definitely need to learn to close your mouth when you eat.

    If you can master that skill then maybe you can work on making coherent statements on here.

  396. dougdcutler Says:

    [..YouTube..] No worries, there is a place for you.

  397. justamusta Says:

    [..YouTube..] @gbtusa9966 I don’t know what you’re arguing about with Bureyeanne, but he or she completely kicked your a**!

    I got a good laugh out of his pointing out your liberal use of question marks followed by the letter u for “you.”

    I read somewhere that the number of consecutive question marks and exclamation points a person uses is inversely related to their IQ.

    Otherwise, yes, if you use the word “retard” you make yourself look like an idiot.

    I’m Justa: Pro-truth Latter-day Saint

  398. THELDSLIFE Says:

    [..YouTube..] And if it so be that they repent and acome unto the Father in the name of Jesus, they shall be received into the kingdom of God. And now, if I have no authority for these things, judge ye; for ye shall know that I have authority when ye shall see me, and we shall stand before God at the last day. Amen. (Ether 5:5-6)
    For all the doubters… Moroni will be there in the last day. Now all you can do is hope that he really won’t be. Can you really take that much of a chance?

  399. THELDSLIFE Says:

    [..YouTube..] @Tommyneog
    How uneducated… is that your interpretation of the pamphlet you read?

  400. wtalady Says:

    [..YouTube..] supermonkey100…I was just thinking your reply shows a general lack of intelligence. The world trade center was attacked by terrorists that had twisted their religion to fit what they wanted or had been brainwashed to do by people with ulterior motives, and that was to kill Americans.

  401. Tommyneog Says:

    [..YouTube..] @THELDSLIFE hey fuck you and and this shit yes SHIT you believe in

  402. wtalady Says:

    [..YouTube..] Potty mouth….you just proved to the world what kind-of person you really are and that must make you feel real good about yourself.

  403. LDSapologist71 Says:

    [..YouTube..] Mormon Apologetic Scholarship and Evangelical Neglect:
    Losing the Battle and Not Knowing It?
    Carl Mosser and Paul Owen

    1997 Evangelical Theological Society Far West Annual Meeting

    April 25, 1997

  404. AmIWhiteYet Says:

    [..YouTube..] @Bureyeanne

    Wow, what have you seen? Zarahemla? A shiblon coin? Zelph’s remains? What?

  405. Bureyeanne Says:

    [..YouTube..] Have you see a single artifact left by Israelites in Egypt? How about the 45 % of the cities in the Bible have never been found. How about the arch of the covenant? There isn’t even solid evidence that there was a Jesus Christ as written in the Bible except that which was written some decades after the fact.

  406. AmIWhiteYet Says:

    [..YouTube..] @Bureyeanne

    No. But unlike you, I never claimed to have. So, what “visual evidence” would you like to present?

  407. Bureyeanne Says:

    [..YouTube..] And cast my pearls before swine, I think not.

  408. wtalady Says:

    [..YouTube..] Very good. Are you LDS?

  409. Bureyeanne Says:

    [..YouTube..] 6th generation

  410. wtalady Says:

    [..YouTube..] Amazing!
    Great comments.

  411. wtalady Says:

    [..YouTube..] AmIWhiteYet—–Have you seen your brain? No! but you believe its there don’t you? Just because some of us don’t believe you have much of one doesn’t mean you don’t.

  412. LDSapologist71 Says:

    [..YouTube..] The Book of Mormon is a volume of holy scripture comparable to the Bible and is a record of God’s dealings with His chosen people in the New World. The main purpose of the Book of Mormon is “to the convincing of Jew and Gentile that JESUS is the CHRIST, the ETERNAL GOD, manifesting himself unto all nations.” (Book of Mormon Title Page) It was written by ancient American prophets for our day (Mormon 8:35) and is an American testament of the Lord Jesus Christ.

  413. LDSapologist71 Says:

    [..YouTube..] AmericantestamentDOTblogspotdotcom

    a personal favorite of mine, and it has a link for VISUAL evidence aids for the spiritually dead.

  414. 0sjvla Says:

    [..YouTube..] RELIGION :re-li.gion [ri-lij-uhn]

    1.(NOUN) A mental disorder which makes the victim believe that they have imaginary friends that created the universe,are everywhere at once and are all powerful.victims also suffer from blind rage when the existence of said imaginary friends is questioned.

  415. supermonkey100 Says:

    [..YouTube..] @wtalady–Right, so terrorists like the ones that attacked New York didn’t actually believe in their dogmatic religious doctrines to embolden them into action, it’s solely a tool they used to externally justify their actions. Nice one. And “brainwashed to do by people with ulterior motives” is a perfect description of most religions actually. ;)

  416. supermonkey100 Says:

    [..YouTube..] @Osjvla–=) Awesome, and entirely accurate description.

  417. AmIWhiteYet Says:

    [..YouTube..] @wtalady

    Just like your constant espousing of subjective emotional experience (beliefs) as “knowledge”, you espouse understanding as visual perception. It’s a fallacy common to Mormonism to strengthen the cognitive bias known as insufficient justification effect where when your actions (bearing testimony) lack sufficient justification (valid reasons) your mind compensates and comes up with its own reasons even when they have no bearing on reality.
    The Mormon cult is brainwashing you well!

  418. supermonkey100 Says:

    [..YouTube..] @AmIWhiteYet–I hope the mormon cult is heavily penalized by governments (especially in America) for trying to inflict its evil agenda on the rest of society.

  419. AmIWhiteYet Says:

    [..YouTube..] As do I. When we point out the many claims of Mormonism that don’t hold up, Mormons are forced to resort to such tactics as:

    Ad-hominem – Anyone who criticizes Mormonism is evil, easily offended, loves porn, whatever and therefore their criticisms are unfounded (thus sidestepping any debate)
    Persecution complex – You’re persecuting us which proves that this work is true! (No it doesn’t)
    Faith trumps reason card – JS having wives who were already married doesn’t matter because I believe!

  420. kanaiboded Says:

    [..YouTube..] Nonsense, not even anti-mormons say that Shmith wrote the whole book by himself.

  421. Fowdy92 Says:

    [..YouTube..] In my research I found independent accounts from individuals saying how Joseph Smith had performed many healing miracles similar to that in the new testament through the laying on of hands. He cured deafness, severe sickness, and chlorea on several people through this method, and the accounts are all genuine. I ask all of you do supernatural healing miracles sound like the work of a conman and a liar to you?

    if anything, decisive proof of who he really was, a prophet, called of god.

  422. wtalady Says:

    [..YouTube..] AmIWhiteYet, You need some serious mental help —commit yourself as soon as possible.

  423. Bureyeanne Says:

    [..YouTube..] @supermonkey100

    I hope the Jew cult is heavily penalized by governments (especially in Germany) for trying to inflict its evil agenda on the rest of society.

    You fascist bastard.

  424. omiolo Says:

    [..YouTube..] I do not pretend to have all the answers concerning the setting and peoples of the Book of Mormon, but I do have a variety of insights that are completely compatible with the information stated in that text.

  425. omiolo Says:

    [..YouTube..] My first and primary insight pertains to the Book of Mormon and its geography. This book was never prepared as geography, but rather as an incomplete history of several lineages as represented by specific individuals and their relationship with their God.

  426. omiolo Says:

    [..YouTube..] This history is loosely draped on a background that includes complex geographical connections among many specific places where the events of the book unfolded.

  427. dougdcutler Says:

    [..YouTube..] @Osjvia @supermonkey100

    The Godless making friends on an LDS video.

    Only on youtube!

  428. dougdcutler Says:

    [..YouTube..] Cry me a river.

  429. omiolo Says:

    [..YouTube..] Utah State students Colby Page, left, and Joseph Irvine, right, present Elder Robert D. Hales with a cooler filled with “Aggie Blue Ice Cream,” a favorite campus confection. Elder Hales spoke at a fireside on the Utah State University campus.

  430. omiolo Says:

    [..YouTube..] Elder Hales asked the members of the congregation to parallel the teachings and example of Joseph to their own experiences when going through the trials of life. He reminded them that, like Moroni, “Ye receive witness until the trial of your faith.”

  431. 0sjvla Says:

    [..YouTube..] cant stand the truth eh? fucker!

  432. 0sjvla Says:

    [..YouTube..] AND! MAGGOT!!! the FIRST and LAST words out of your filthy little COCK sucking mouth should be SIR!!
    AND IF! I was remotely interested of your opinion
    I would ask for it.

  433. 0sjvla Says:

    [..YouTube..] tnx well ,well look @ that my comment has been removed.. tsk tsk truth hurts !!!

  434. konf7 Says:

    [..YouTube..] JOSEPH SMITH YOU A BITCH !!!!!

  435. LDSapologist71 Says:

    [..YouTube..] konf7

    Grow up and get an education

  436. Trillidotia Says:

    [..YouTube..] 80 days to write it? Smith supposedly dug the plates up in Sept. 1827, almost 2 years before it was finished; way more than 80 days. He didn’t “publish is to the world” in many languages, just English, and took it to one Canadian publisher, but first he tried to sell it. He did no research? How do you know. He’d no doubt been planning this scheme for a while. His own FIL was pretty disgusted by Smith’s con schemes.

    Doesn’t fly, Seth.

  437. konf7 Says:

    [..YouTube..] @LDSapologist71 / I GOT THE TRUTH PUNK , AND NOT FAKE ASS TEACHINGS FROM A FALSE PROPHET LIKE JOE SMITH!

  438. 0sjvla Says:

    [..YouTube..] Fuck u and everybody who looks like you BEEEEEEEEOTCH!!!

  439. 0sjvla Says:

    [..YouTube..] fuck off , Who r u calling moron u stinking mormon?

  440. LDSapologist71 Says:

    [..YouTube..] There is a principle which is a bar against all information, which is proof against all arguments and which cannot fail to keep a man in everlasting ignorance that principle is contempt prior to investigation.
    -Herbert Spencer

  441. LDSapologist71 Says:

    [..YouTube..] JOSEPH SMITH WAS A TRUE PROPHET OF GOD!!!

    The church of JESUS CHRIST IS RESTORED and NOT YOU, NOT ILLINOIS, NOT ANYONE CAN CHANGE THIS FACT!

  442. 0sjvla Says:

    [..YouTube..] RELIGION :re-li.gion [ri-lij-uhn]
    1.(NOUN) A mental disorder which makes the victim believe that they have imaginary friends that created the universe,are everywhere at once and are all powerfull.victims also suffer from blind rage when the existence of said imaginary friends is questioned. HOW TRUE THIS IS after I read the pm’s u sent me..
    SUCK ON THAT MORON!!!

  443. 0sjvla Says:

    [..YouTube..] Interesting to see how lds’s suffer from blind rage when the existence of their imaginary friends / prophets / god’s is questioned.

  444. Wyatt7211 Says:

    [..YouTube..] I know, right? I get a good laugh out of it.

  445. 0sjvla Says:

    [..YouTube..] yup, that’s why we r here =D

  446. THELDSLIFE Says:

    [..YouTube..] It is following after the wisdom of men which has proven folly and not God or his prophets.
    God has called such men as Moses, Isaiah, Daniel, and many others in the past and there were many who also rejected them and stoned them… but if it weren’t for their writings, how would we know the mind and will of God?
    Till we all come to the unity of faith must have been a fools hope. Christ’s church went from 1 to 38,000 in 2 short Millennium.
    You would possibly have stoned the prophets yourself.

  447. dougdcutler Says:

    [..YouTube..] To get Teancum from Tecumseh, one has to take off the last syllable, add “an” after the “Te,” and there you have it. Tecumseh = Teancum. Kind of like John = Joshua!

    Teancum also slayed Amalickiah and Ammoron.

    Do you have a brilliant explanation for those names and other names in the Book of Mormon like;

    Zenephi, Ripliancum, Comnor, Shiz, Amgid, Kimnor, Riplakish, Corom, Amnigaddah, Kumenonhi, Mathonihah, Paanchi, Pachus, Zerahemnah, Antiomno, Zeezrom, Limher, Mormon, Moroni and many more?

  448. THELDSLIFE Says:

    [..YouTube..] Why don’t you just come out and say that you have no religion because your comments could be aimed towards all faiths who believe on Christ. I know it’s nearly impossible for the godless among us to understand the plan of salvation which has been prepared for us from the foundation of the world.
    One of the Devil’s greatest accomplishments is he has convinced all mankind that he does not exist; leaving any and all open to whatever idea of Atheism they choose to embrace.
    You’re not Anti-LDS alone.

  449. THELDSLIFE Says:

    [..YouTube..] Anti-Mormons don’t know what to say. They keep changing gears and trying out new theories.

  450. THELDSLIFE Says:

    [..YouTube..] Yes, well we couldn’t expect them to feel comfortable all alone in their beliefs. We watch as they holler back at us to shut off the light much like an awakened child.

  451. THELDSLIFE Says:

    [..YouTube..] I’m on a blocking people hunt and “AmIWhiteYet” has my vote for a #50…

  452. 0sjvla Says:

    [..YouTube..] No I am not only anti lds,, jv and u r the same shit.
    and hell,, I m holding the AMISH in higher regard than u lot!

  453. Wyatt7211 Says:

    [..YouTube..] lol No shit. I’m an atheist and proud of it. You can say it’s the work of satan, but as an educated human being, I know that isn’t so. It’s really too bad people such as yourself won’t abandon your primitive belief systems and gain a better understanding of science.

  454. bdplist Says:

    [..YouTube..] @dougdcutler
    OK
    SIMPLE
    Joe just took the existing geograhy as his basis for the boM FABLE
    Joe just took existing names and changed them levi into lehi
    Joe took existing towns villages and did the same, the real Oneida becomes Oneidah
    Sherebrook becomes Shurr etc……

  455. bdplist Says:

    [..YouTube..] @dougdcutler
    Vernal Holley’s book re-constructed the internal geography of the Book of Mormon and superimposed it on the modern Great Lakes area – there is a precise fit
    Here’s some examples REAL followed by BoM

    So Conner – becomes Comner
    Likewise:
    Ephrem, Saint – Ephraim, Hill
    Hellam – Helam
    Lehigh – Lehi
    Moraviantown – Morianton
    Morin – Moron
    Oneida – Onidah
    Rama – Ramah

  456. bdplist Says:

    [..YouTube..] @dougdcutler
    We have only just begun
    Jo was a provable Fraud & religious flim Flam man

  457. Bureyeanne Says:

    [..YouTube..] You could say the same for any character in the Bible or any religious text. Since there are no ways to prove any of it happened as written in a controlled environment, then one could just as easy say that it is all propaganda and folk tails.

  458. Bureyeanne Says:

    [..YouTube..] This proves nothing. This is circumstantial evidence at best. One is better off claiming that Jesus only ripped off the Buddhist doctrines, or that Paul wrote fictional anti-Roman letters.

  459. Bureyeanne Says:

    [..YouTube..] I think you mean kent hovind don’t you?

  460. Bureyeanne Says:

    [..YouTube..] @THELDSLIFE

    Good, but it only means they can’t send you messages. Now if they are verbally abusive, then you can ask youtube to have their account removed for what that is worth.

  461. bdplist Says:

    [..YouTube..] @Bureyeanne
    There is too much coincedence to be a mere accident

    JO ripped off Swedenborg doctrines

  462. bdplist Says:

    [..YouTube..] MORE CO INKY DINKS
    AND so the Real Comoros becomes Cumorah
    Jo sMYTH created the name “Cumorah” through his study of the treasure hunting stories of Capt. W. Kidd. Capt. Kidd was said to have buried treasure in the Comoros islands, Smith used the name of the islands & applied it to the hill where he found buried treasure, the golden plates.

    1 More AMAZING Co Inky Dink
    MORONi is the name of the capital city!

  463. bdplist Says:

    [..YouTube..] In 1784 a man by the name of Emanuel Swedenborg wrote about his visions of the afterlife. Teachings Remarkably similar to JO later claimed to receive as revelation.
    Swedenborg taught: “There are three heavens” … “entirely distinct from each other.”
    He called the highest heaven “the Celestial Kingdom,” and stated that the inhabitants of the three heavens corresponded to the “sun, moon and stars.”

    WONDER where JO got “revelation” D&C76?
    (looks like the local Library lol)

  464. bdplist Says:

    [..YouTube..] “Can such numerous and startling points of resemblance and suggestive contact be merely coincidence?”
    (B. H. Roberts, Studies of the Book of Mormon, (University of Illinois Press, 1985), p. 242)

  465. bdplist Says:

    [..YouTube..] Then there are all those troubling FIRST Vision stories by others LONG Before JO Plagarized them

  466. bdplist Says:

    [..YouTube..] LOOKS LIKE JOE READ THE LOCAL PAPER
    It seemed as if my mind… was struck motionless… before the awful and glorious majesty of the Great Jehovah… He also told me, that every denomination of professing Christians had become extremely corrupt… [H]e said that all the different denominations of professing Christians, constituted the New Testament Babylon. Asa Wild, article printed in Palmyras Wayne Sentinel, October 22, 182

  467. konf7 Says:

    [..YouTube..] DUMB MEMBERS HAVING MOTHAFUCKA !

  468. dougdcutler Says:

    [..YouTube..] I am not even going to ask what your point is.

  469. gendoboy Says:

    [..YouTube..] the names mulek and lehi are actually mentioned in the bible. and it’s very interesting that bring up these names because if you’d have read the book of mormon youd realize that mormons believe the inhabitants of hawaii are decendants of the nephites and lamanites. just and interesting point that alot of these words are similar.

  470. bdplist Says:

    [..YouTube..] The Indian mounds that dotted western New York were a constant source of speculation during the time Joseph grew up there. It was a common legend that western New York and Ohio had once been the site of a terrible slaughter and that the mounds were the cemeteries of an entire race. In 1821, a Palmyra newspaper stated that diggers on the Erie Canal had unearthed “several BRASS PLATES” along with skeletons and fragments of pottery
    Fawn Brodie, No Man Knows My History pp35-36

  471. bdplist Says:

    [..YouTube..] @dougdcutler
    Wonder where JO got his ideas from amazingly from the local newspaper

    Joe also had access to buried treasure stories thru articles in Canandaigua Ontario Repository on Feb. 9, 1825, and also in the Palmyra Wayne Sentinel on Feb. 16th.

  472. bdplist Says:

    [..YouTube..] Where did JO get his source material for his First Vision Fish Story?
    “I went into the woods … a light appeared from heaven…. My mind seemed to rise in that light to the throne of God and the Lamb…. The Lamb once slain appeared to my understanding, and while viewing him, I felt such love to him as I never felt to any thing earthly…. It is not possible for me to tell how long I remained in that situation …” The Life Conversion Preaching Travels & Sufferings of Elias Smith 1816 p58-59

  473. bdplist Says:

    [..YouTube..] @dougdcutler
    Oneida has a mormon ward it is east of Palmyra in upstate NY
    Morin is in Canada

  474. bdplist Says:

    [..YouTube..] @dougdcutler
    Until the year 1838 there was NO MENTION of JO having seen Father & son in any newspaper or comtemporary writing including LDS Church publications. NO MENTION in diaries or journals of JO’s friends or Church leaders There was also no mention in the writings of Jo’s enemies
    NO EVIDENCE

  475. bdplist Says:

    [..YouTube..] @dougdcutler
    1832
    In Josephs handwritten first draft of his history only Jesus is mentioned as appearing
    (The Personal Writings of Joseph Smith compiled by Dean Jessee Deseret Book 2002 p10-11)

  476. bdplist Says:

    [..YouTube..] 1816
    [T]he Lord showed me in a vision that there was no people on the earth that was right, and that faith was gone from the earth…all Churches were corrupt…soon raise up a Church, that would be after the Apostolic Order, that there would be in it the same powers, and gifts that were in the days of Christ…This was in the year of 1816.. for which I was much persecuted and called deluded
    A Sketch of the experience of Solomon Chamberlain

    (lived only 20 miles away from Palmyra)

  477. bdplist Says:

    [..YouTube..] @Bureyeanne
    By Joseph Smith’s own statements, he was familiar with Swedenborg’s writings. Joseph told a convert by the name of Edward Hunter that:
    “Emanuel Swedenborg had a view of the world to come, but for daily food he perished.” (Statement in 1839 by Joseph Smith to Edward Hunter, a Swedenborgian convert who later became the presiding bishop of the Church)

  478. bdplist Says:

    [..YouTube..] @Bureyeanne
    (Conjugial Love, 20-21, 54(5), 155)
    Swedenborg witnessed a marriage ceremony in heaven, in which the husband wore priesthood robes like those of Aaron while the wife was arrayed as a queen. Also, marriage between man and woman is necessary to inherit the highest heaven.

    D&C 131:2
    LDS temple marriages carry over to heaven & involve clothing similar to what Swedenborg described. marriage between man and woman is necessary to inherit the highest degree of Celestial kingdom

  479. bdplist Says:

    [..YouTube..] Emanuel Swedenborg received his divine calling on April 6, 1744. One year later on April 6, 1745 the Lord appeared to him again.
    D&C 20:1 LDS church was established on April 6, 1830. It also teaches that Jesus was born on April 6.

  480. bdplist Says:

    [..YouTube..] Swendenborg
    (True Christian Religion, 340-342, Heaven and Hell, 427)
    One of the great errors of Christianity is justification by faith alone. People will be judged for their actions as well.

    LDS Alma 11:34-37
    Faith is meaningless without works. People will be judged for their actions as well.

  481. bdplist Says:

    [..YouTube..] HOW JO WROTE THE BoM

    Swedenborg
    (Last Judgement, 33-39; True Christian Religion, 647)
    The church established by Christ died spiritually due to apostasy and false doctrines. The Lord’s church would be re-established and again act as a link with heaven.

    (Joseph Smith History, 1:16)
    The church established by Christ died spiritually due to apostasy and false doctrines. The Lord’s church was restored through Joseph Smith.

  482. bdplist Says:

    [..YouTube..] “Can such numerous and startling points of resemblance and suggestive contact be merely coincidence?” (B. H. Roberts, Studies of the Book of Mormon, (University of Illinois Press, 1985), p. 242)

  483. bdplist Says:

    [..YouTube..] The Book of Mormon Hill Onidah was in the land of Antionum, east of Zarahemla (Alma 31:3, 32:4)
    in New York State is a place called Oneida Castle. It is located on a hill in Oneida County and was the chief settlement of the Oneida Indians of New York.

  484. bdplist Says:

    [..YouTube..] I wonder where Joseph Smith could have gotten the idea for golden plates? Perhaps in the very Bible that he claimed to be so well versed in? For example, Exodus 28:36 says:
    And thou shalt make a plate of pure gold, and grave upon it, like the engravings of a signet, holiness to the Lord.

  485. sboo1950 Says:

    [..YouTube..] To be Joseph Smith and write the BofM, you only have to plagerize it from Solomon Spaulding and not leave out of your copying of the Bible, the errors you can find there too while you are at it. Joe Smith was a klnown liar and biggot then, and the facts remain today what her was and still is. Flowrey words and violin music do not cover the stench he has left behind.

  486. LDSapologist71 Says:

    [..YouTube..] Wow, did you think that up all by yourself?
    Read real literature and real facts about the prophet Joseph smith.

    @antimormons who continue to post here.

    YOU ARE WRONG. The book of MORMON is a SEMITIC TRANSLATION!

  487. LDSapologist71 Says:

    [..YouTube..] FAIRLDSdotORG
    for the truth

    You so called Christians are lost!

  488. LDSapologist71 Says:

    [..YouTube..] In my research I found independent accounts from people saying how Joseph Smith had performed many healing miracles similar to that in the new testament through laying on of hands. He cured deafness, severe illness like cholorea on several people, and the accounts are all genuine, I ask you do supernatural healing miracles sound like the work of a conman and a liar to you?

    LDSapologist71
    FAIRLDSdotORG

  489. LDSapologist71 Says:

    [..YouTube..] @bdplist

    give up your cut and paste crusade!

  490. 0sjvla Says:

    [..YouTube..] JV, LDS,,.MORMONS SAME SHIT Different pile..
    your false “prophets” and erroneous scriptures..
    is going to bring u down. some of u has already
    been exposed for the low life crap u r…
    be gone u false prophets and so called “chosen ones

  491. TheEternalPunk Says:

    [..YouTube..] @LDSapologist71

    FAIR is nothing more than LDS comedy central. No one outside their bubble takes anything they say seriously.

  492. LDSapologist71 Says:

    [..YouTube..] The Book of Mormon, like the Bible, contains a record of God’s dealings with a part of the House of Israel. It contains prophecies of Christ and also reveals how Christ, after his resurrection and ascension into heaven, later ministered to those who had waited for him in the New World.

  493. bdplist Says:

    [..YouTube..] HOW?
    BIBLE PLAGARISM
    Joseph borrowed liberally from the Bible in creating the Book of Mormon. Approximately 25,000 words in the Book of Mormon consist of passages from the Old Testament, mainly chapters from Isaiah that Ethan Smith mentioned in View of the Hebrews. Another 2,000 words were taken from the New Testament. (Fawn Brodie, No Man Knows My History, p. 58)

    Like Twain said if you removed all the “AND IT CAME TO PASS” phrases U would only have a Pamphlet!

  494. bdplist Says:

    [..YouTube..] WHERE?
    LOCAL NEWS!
    The Indian mounds that dotted western New York were a constant source of speculation during the time Joseph grew up there. It was a common legend that western New York and Ohio had once been the site of a terrible slaughter and that the mounds were the cemeteries of an entire race. In 1821, a Palmyra newspaper stated that diggers on the Erie Canal had unearthed “several BRASS PLATES” along with skeletons and fragments of pottery.
    Fawn Brodie, No Man Knows My History p35

  495. omiolo Says:

    [..YouTube..] The overarching intent of the father of lies is that all of us would become miserable like unto himself (2 Nephi 2:27), and he works to distort the elements of the Fathers plan he hates the most.

  496. omiolo Says:

    [..YouTube..] Satan does not have a body, and his eternal progress has been halted. Just as water flowing in a riverbed is stopped by a dam, so the adversarys eternal progress is thwarted because he does not have a physical body. Because of his rebellion, Lucifer has denied himself all of the mortal blessings and experiences made possible through a tabernacle of flesh and bones

  497. omiolo Says:

    [..YouTube..] He cannot learn the lessons that only an embodied spirit can learn. He cannot marry or enjoy the blessings of procreation and family life. He cannot abide the reality of a literal and universal resurrection of all mankind. One of the potent scriptural meanings of the word damned is illustrated in his inability to continue developing and becoming like our Heavenly Father.

  498. ArizonaDesertPiper Says:

    [..YouTube..] @TheEtern

  499. ArizonaDesertPiper Says:

    [..YouTube..] @TheEternalPunk What of the F.A.R.M.S.?

  500. ArizonaDesertPiper Says:

    [..YouTube..] @sboo1950 You are way behind the times. \Bob and Rosemary Brown in” they lie in wait to deceive” exposed this lie years ago.

  501. LDSapologist71 Says:

    [..YouTube..] The bible and the Book of Mormon are One, just like the Father and the Son are One, just like all the angels in heaven are ONE with God, and just as we ought to be ONE with God on earth. They are His WORDS.

    FAIRMORMONdotORG
    for the truth

  502. AntonBatey Says:

    [..YouTube..] *religion

  503. dougdcutler Says:

    [..YouTube..] The Godless are not immune to the commandments including taking God’s name in vain.

    Whether you recognize it or not, you are acknowledging that there is a God with every profane curse.

    Yes, it is very ironic to compare God to Peter Pan and Santa Clause.

  504. AntonBatey Says:

    [..YouTube..] No, comparing the God of the Bible to Santa Clause/Peter Pan is perfectly legitimate. They are both man-made, are believed in by people with simple-minds all three have absolutely no proof confirming their existence, and people who believe in them usually do it for some type of relief.

    Try harder, kiddo.

  505. dougdcutler Says:

    [..YouTube..] “Guarantee”?

    You have already proven you are a novice in knowledge of the LDS faith so lets stop pretending since you dislike “imaginary” things.

    If I want to learn more about the Civil Rights Movement then I will learn about Martin Luther King Jr., not Malcolm X.

    You can easily talk to an African American or Black in the LDS Church and express to them how disgusting their religion is.

    But I am sure you will just rely on your “expertise” instead.

  506. AntonBatey Says:

    [..YouTube..] Oh, right, because knowing about King sure will tell you everything you want to know about it. Thanks for displaying your ignorance again, lad. Again, that’s what I expect from someone who believes in the Mormon Church.

    And I have spoken to many Black ex-Mormons, and EVERY single one of them told me that they didn’t know about the history of their Church. Once they found out, they left. So yes, place me in contact with some Black Mormons you know – if you even know any Black people.

  507. dougdcutler Says:

    [..YouTube..] “They are both man-made”?

    Both as in Santa Clause and Peter Pan are man-made? How ironic, I agree.

    I would recommend in not preaching that God fearing people have simple-minds when making failed statements like that.

    Obviously, you should have stated “all three” are man made, but your brilliant logic is that only the God-fearing are simple-minded, like Albert Einstein.

  508. AntonBatey Says:

    [..YouTube..] Yes, god, Santa and Peter Pan are man made. Ironic, eh? So saying the names means you believe in them? I don’t see the logic. Explain. Oh, that’s right…………you won’t be able to.

    Albert Einstein believed in Spinoza’s god, and proclaimed himself to be an agnostic at other times. Big difference between that and believing in the tales of your religion.

  509. dougdcutler Says:

    [..YouTube..] The one difference between us is that I am not claiming to be an “expert” on the Civil Rights Movement like you are with the LDS Church.

    Ex-Mormons? Of course.

    Lets not preach ignorance when you state “if you even know any Black people”.

  510. AntonBatey Says:

    [..YouTube..] Haha, Einstein, you say was “god-fearing”, do ya?

    “I received your letter of June 10th. I have never talked to a Jesuit priest in my life and I am astonished by the audacity to tell such lies about me. From the viewpoint of a Jesuit priest I am, of course, and have always been an atheist.”

    Sorry….

    Man, you suck at defending this stuff…

  511. AntonBatey Says:

    [..YouTube..] Oh, that’s right, you Mormons are like the Jehovah’s Witnesses, and totally trash and cut yourself off from ex-members of your cult.

    So yeah, do me a favor and put me in contact with some of the Black Mormons you know.

  512. dougdcutler Says:

    [..YouTube..] That one went right past you.

    He believed in God despite our differences.

    But with your brilliant logic, Albert Einstein is a simple-mind.

  513. AntonBatey Says:

    [..YouTube..] Yeah, I just refuted that false claim.

    Try again.

  514. dougdcutler Says:

    [..YouTube..] You just admitted earlier that he believed in a God. Lets help you out so you don’t look so embarrassing.

    Key words “From the viewpoint of a Jesuit priest”

    Albert Einstein easy to read for you quotes:

    “God doesn’t play dice”

    “What really interests me is whether God had any choice in the creation of the world”

    “I want to know how God created this world. I’m not interested in this or that phenomenon, in the spectrum of this or that element. I want to know His thoughts; the rest are details”

  515. dougdcutler Says:

    [..YouTube..] Are Copernicus, Sir Francis Bacon, Kepler, Galileo, Descartes, Newton, Boyle, Mendel, Knuth and Planck simple minded too?

    Or are you just going to stick with your brilliant logic that all God-fearing people are “simple minded”?

  516. dougdcutler Says:

    [..YouTube..] They are always welcome back.

    It just explained where you were getting your “info” from and magically becoming this self professed “expert” on the LDS faith.

    Put you in contact so you can tell them how disgusting their religion is? You are not even amusing.

    blacklds O R G

  517. AntonBatey Says:

    [..YouTube..] Do you even know what Spinoza’s God is? You obviously don’t. I can give you plenty of other quotes from him where he dismisses the idea of a personal god, and at other times, god himself.

  518. AntonBatey Says:

    [..YouTube..] Yeah, I’d love to know why a Black person would be a Mormon.

    But like I said, the Mormon Church, like another other cult, doesn’t like ex-believers because they usually expose much of the bullshit about your cult.

  519. AntonBatey Says:

    [..YouTube..] Plus, I think it’s funny as hell that there has to be an entire website to Black LDS. By the way, I have been to that website. It’s like reading communist apoligists; people performing mental gymnastics, only to land straight on their heads and dying a painful death.

  520. AntonBatey Says:

    [..YouTube..] Didn’t Young say “….Shall I tell you the law of God in regard to the African race? If the white man who belongs to the chosen seed mixes his blood with the seed of Cain, the penalty, under the law of God, is death on the spot. This will always be so.”

    That’s just great. According to him, I should be killed.

    What a sick fuck Young was, and should be remembered for.

  521. dougdcutler Says:

    [..YouTube..] Wow, the entire conversation has gone completely over your head.

    We weren’t arguing what Einsten’s belief was about God, but if he believed in a God.

    You are going to give plenty of other quotes while dismissing the one’s I posted? That is convenient.

    Still want to try to explain away the other brilliant men who believed in God?

    According to you and your brilliant logic, they are all “simple-minded”.

  522. dougdcutler Says:

    [..YouTube..] Are you capable of reading the entire, CORRECT quote? Of course you are not.

    You have only proven to me you have a very disturbing logic towards anything you don’t understand. Probably why you gravitate towards Malcolm X and Anarchism.

    You also have proven you cannot carry a civil conversation or have the capabilities to understand what is being talked about.

    I felt like I was talking in circles only to realize that you are just a simple square.

  523. AntonBatey Says:

    [..YouTube..] Yes it was. You claimed that Einstein was “god-fearing”. Remember? If someone doesn’t believe in a personal god and say, Spinoza’s god at best, and describes himself as an “atheist” at worse. And yes, I said that people who believe in “the God of the Bible” are “simple minded”.

    Anyone who believes in talking snakes are simple-minded. Most Christians who have an IQ os 115+ would try to rationalize that, saying its non-literal, basically admitting the absurdity of the religion itself.

  524. AntonBatey Says:

    [..YouTube..] Ah, yes, the typical religious response: “If you don’t believe in the same imaginary friend I have, then you dont know anything about it”.

    And of course, if the information comes from an ex member of your cult, then that disqualifies him automatically.

    Spoken like a true cult member, little one.

  525. dougdcutler Says:

    [..YouTube..] Lets not lie what you really said.

    “They are both man-made, are believed in by people with simple-minds all three have absolutely no proof confirming their existence, and people who believe in them usually do it for some type of relief.”

    People that believe in God = simple-minded.

    This was your brilliant logic that you easily forgot while miserably debating.

    I would definitely have a doctor check out that memory.

    In the meantime, good luck w/ those “bootie” videos.

  526. 0sjvla Says:

    [..YouTube..] 3 words:
    Mountain  Meadows Massacre.

  527. dougdcutler Says:

    [..YouTube..] First, you claim he got the vision from a newspaper that was printed in 1823.

    Then flip a 180 and claim that he didn’t reveal the vision until 1838.

    Make up what lie you want to go with because I can’t follow your ball of confusion in your head.

  528. bdplist Says:

    [..YouTube..] @dougdcutler
    It is an easy matter to ESTABLISH thru FACTS that JO had a plethora of available documents & frontier stories on which to assemble his ideas for a new Fish Story

  529. bdplist Says:

    [..YouTube..] @dougdcutler
    FACTS are stubborn things mormonISM much more pliable.
    FACT is there is NOTHING but ur current day Fable substantiating anything about a vision of Father & Son until 1838
    Sorry if you cant swallow that bitter pill but Facts are facts
    There was no vision that is what the facts bear out

  530. bdplist Says:

    [..YouTube..] I understand how hard it is to admit the truth when you have so many years & so much tied up in the LIE

  531. bdplist Says:

    [..YouTube..] “. . . I went into the woods . . . a light appeared from heaven. . . . My mind seemed to rise in that light to the throne of God and the Lamb. . . . The Lamb once slain appeared to my understanding, and while viewing him, I felt such love to him as I never felt to any thing earthly. . . . It is not possible for me to tell how long I remained in that situation . . .” The Life, Conversion, Preaching, Travels, and Sufferings of Elias Smith, Portsmouth, N.H., 1816, pp.58-59

  532. omiolo Says:

    [..YouTube..] Bob Fitzgerald, left, the Golden State Warriors play-by-play announcer interviews former Utah Jazz basketball player and Church member Thurl Bailey.

  533. omiolo Says:

    [..YouTube..] The success of the event was indicated during the post-game wrap-up on the Warriors’ flagship radio station KNBR 680. Commentator Damon Bruce talked for several minutes about how impressive the Church’s attendance was. He spoke of how much excitement the Church brought to the arena and helped ease the pain of the Warriors’ 100-89 loss to the Utah Jazz. He said the Church should come to games more often.

  534. omiolo Says:

    [..YouTube..] With all the excitement and buzz about record-breaking attendance, staff from the San Francisco Giants and Oakland A’s at the game paid close attention. The Oakland/San Francisco Public Affairs Council will continue to partner with local sports teams to positively promote the church through LDS events.

  535. omiolo Says:

    [..YouTube..] It’s about family, fun and fellowship. Each venue provides a unique opportunity to highlight how the Church is involved in the community whether through a family history spotlight, a special LDS guest speaker, LDS entertainer or simply the presence of missionaries

  536. bdplist Says:

    [..YouTube..] [T]he Lord showed me in a vision that there was no people on the earth that was right, and that faith was gone from the earth, excepting a few and that all Churches were corrupt. I further saw in the vision, that he would soon raise up a Church, that would be after the Apostolic Order, that there would be in it the same powers, and gifts that were in the days of Christ…This was in the year of 1816…for which I was much persecuted and called deluded
    Chamberlain lived 20 miles away from JO

  537. bdplist Says:

    [..YouTube..] “It has been pointed out in these pages that there are many things in the former book that might well have suggested many major things in the other Not a few things merely 1 or 2 or half dozen but many and it is this FACT of many things of SIMILARITY and the CUMULATIVE FORCE of them that makes them so SERIOUS MENACE to Joseph Smiths story of the Book of Mormon’s origin…The material in Ethan Smith’s book is of a character and quantity to make a GROUND PLAN for the BoM” Roberts Stud p240

  538. bdplist Says:

    [..YouTube..] @dougdcutler
    … was Joseph Smith possessed of a sufficiently VIVID and creative IMAGINATION as to produce such a work as the Book of Mormon from such materials as have been indicated in the preceding chapters …? That such power of imagination would have to be of a high order is CONCEDED that Joseph Smith possessed such a gift of mind there can be no question (Studies, p. 243).

  539. StSimonOfTrent Says:

    [..YouTube..] The Mormons have waged war with the USA
    3 times since 1830. The founding father, a Satanic Freemason by the name of Joseph Smith, was arrested in 1844-trying to overthrow the US government

    Until 1927 all Mormons were required to swear out an Oath of Vengeance

    I do solemnly swear, in the presence of Almighty God and these witnesses,to avenge the blood of Joseph Smith upon this nation and that I will from this day henceforth and forever begin and carry out hostility against this nation’

  540. bdplist Says:

    [..YouTube..] ROBERTS TESTIMONY
    “I shall hold that what is here presented illustrates sufficiently the matter taken in hand by referring to them, namely that they are all of one breed and brand; so nearly alike that ONE MIND is the AUTHOR of them, and that a young and undeveloped, but piously inclined mind. The EVIDENCE I SORROWFULLY SUBMIT points to Joseph Smith as their CREATOR” Studies P 271

  541. bdplist Says:

    [..YouTube..] @dougdcutler
    “Is all this sober history … or is it a wondertale of an immature mind, unconscious of what a test he is laying on human credulity when asking men to accept his narrative as solemn history?” (Studies, p. 283).

  542. bdplist Says:

    [..YouTube..] @dougdcutler
    Roberts concluded that View of the Hebrews had been published FIRST that the possibility that Smith had access to it was “a very close certainty,” and that there were MANY similarities between the works see p 235

  543. mezcal098 Says:

    [..YouTube..] Mormonism is a religion that teaches BLASPHEMY. Joseph Smith is the devil, a false prophet who has and will lead many into temaptation and fire. The Book of Mormon is false filled with the words of demons and evil. MORMONS!! REPENT and you will all be saved from eternal damnation!!! Turn away from this heretical cult!!!!! Cast the teachings of this false prophet away!!!!

  544. mezcal098 Says:

    [..YouTube..] @ LDSapologist

    The Book of Mormon is a book of lies and evil!!. Joseph Smith is a false prophet!! Do not be led by his words of poison!!! Mormons that follow are HERETICS. BLASPHEMY!!!!!

  545. omiolo Says:

    [..YouTube..] Dear Everyone,

    I am writing to let you all know how very grateful we are for your prayers, concern, and love. Please keep praying! We need the Lord’s help and guidance in order to do all He would have us do to learn what He would have us learn from this earth quake tragedy, and to minister in the way He would have us minister.

  546. omiolo Says:

    [..YouTube..] During the past few days, we have witnessed many events which serve to remind us that the Lord is in charge and that as missionaries and members of His church, The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, we are performing His work, and as President Monson teaches, “When we are on the Lord’s errand, we are entitled to His help.” I want to share with you a few miracles that will help you to understand our profound feelings of gratitude.

  547. omiolo Says:

    [..YouTube..] When we were set apart for this calling, Elder Scott of the Council of the Twelve Apostles taught us many important lessons. He spoke from personal experience when he was a mission president in Argentina. One message that he shared with us is this: “At times, during your mission, you will be awakened in the middle of the night or the early morning hours with thoughts of specific things you should do for certain missionaries

  548. ArizonaDesertPiper Says:

    [..YouTube..] @bdplist As usual dodging the point. I see no point in continuing conversation with you. You ignore facts and do not respond directly to them. You have a closed mind.

  549. bdplist Says:

    [..YouTube..] @ArizonaDesertPiper
    CTR Trust Jesus

  550. bdplist Says:

    [..YouTube..] “It has been pointed out in these pages that there are many things in the former book that might well have suggested many major things in the other. Not a few things merely, one or two, or half dozen, BUT MANY and it is this fact of MANY things of similarity and the cumulative force of them that makes them so SERIOUS a MENACE to Joseph Smith’s story of the Book of Mormon’s origin…Ethan Smiths book is of a character and quantity to make a ground plan for the Book of Mormon”
    Studies p 240

  551. bdplist Says:

    [..YouTube..] @ArizonaDesertPiper
    SORRY u use silly logic
    Availability is irrellevant
    Dishonest? LOL the book is of upmost interest & is not to be ignored
    Hey Even JO was interested in it since he mentioned Ethan Smith and cited passages from View of the Hebrews in an article published in the Times and Seasons 3:15 (1 June 1842): 813815

  552. mezcal098 Says:

    [..YouTube..] You have been deceived and brainwashed by the False Prophet, Joseph Smith!!!!!! You must REPENT!!! The False Prophet is malicious, a heretical blasphemer. By following the False Prophet, you are dooming yourself to eternal damnation and hell fire!!!! Throw away the Book of Mormon, leave this church of devils and demons for their words are anathema.

  553. 0sjvla Says:

    [..YouTube..] 2 john 1:9-11

  554. 0sjvla Says:

    [..YouTube..] hehehe sooooo true

  555. kramd1 Says:

    [..YouTube..] @ Osjvia
    love your quote
    “A mental disorder which makes the victim believe that they have imaginary friends that created the universe,are everywhere at once and are all powerfull.victims also suffer from blind rage when the existence of said imaginary friends is questioned”

  556. bdplist Says:

    [..YouTube..] @dougdcutler
    The great LDS Historian B H Roberts (in Studies of the Book of Mormon) CONCLUDED that View of the Hebrews had been published FIRST
    that the possibility that Smith had access to it was “a very close certainty”
    and that there were MANY (not a few) similarities between the works see p 235

    Just one more example of HOW JO wrote the BoM

  557. LDSapologist71 Says:

    [..YouTube..] “A friend lays down his life for his friends.. there is no greater love. To care enough that other innocent souls do not further get manipulated and taken over by an evil cult.”
    Yes I’m sure that is exactly what Jesus meant.
    If you are so interested in what Jesus Christ meant, why don’t you start by looking at the history of your own church, and the millions they butchered in the name of God, and their “evil cult.”

    And don’t hide behind the eastern Orthodoxy, it’s all the same.

  558. ssevans3 Says:

    [..YouTube..] Galatians1:8 But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach a gospel other than the one we preached to you, let him be eternally condemned! 9As we have already said, so now I say again: If anybody is preaching to you a gospel other than what you accepted, let him be eternally condemned!

  559. 0sjvla Says:

    [..YouTube..] tnx =)

  560. mezcal098 Says:

    [..YouTube..] First of all, I’m not Catholic and I believe in the Bible and the Lord but what I don’t believe is the lies spoken by Joseph Smith and the Book of Mormon. What Joseph Smith preaches is heretical. There is no historical, scientific or archaeological evidence to support the book. Furthermore, the nephite tribe, the angel Moroni and the prophet Mormon are not mentioned in the Holy Bible, not even in prophecies by the TRUE prophets! Blind leading the blind, the Mormons have been lead astray!

  561. omiolo Says:

    [..YouTube..] @mezcal098

    since Joseph Smith did NOT speak LIES, you have NO point!

    now REPENT!

  562. omiolo Says:

    [..YouTube..] Morse, who spent 15 years teaching at Yale and George Mason universities before founding her institute, outlined two general reasons why sh