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January 23rd, 2010 at 4:29 am
[..YouTube..] I’m not asking the church’s official policy or opinion is on anything. I’m talking to you, not the church proper.
I don’t really care what you accept because the JOD calls itself scripture but the church has to distance itself from them because they’re embarassing to the church as it now pretends to be Christian.
January 23rd, 2010 at 4:30 am
[..YouTube..] I have nothing to fear from you. You can’t prove your position or that I lied about anything; all hollow accusations.
And since you can’t prove me wrong, you once again resort to insults. Same song, same lyrics.
January 23rd, 2010 at 4:34 am
[..YouTube..] @moparmonster1965
YOu can speculate as much as you want..the OFFICIAL doctrine is what we follow..no matter what you say or anyone else…men are entitled to thier own OPINIONS – that is GOd given..even for prophets….as we see that Paul believed women should stay silent in church..or have long hair..or that the church fathers held thier own opinions..When a prophet speaks as a prophet..and it is FROM the LORD <–EMPHASIS..and THEN CANONIZED – it is OFFICIAL DOCTRINE – PERIOD..not OPINION
January 23rd, 2010 at 4:36 am
[..YouTube..] @moparmonster1965
The JOD was “NEVER REVELATION”..another LIE..see..stop distorting LDS theology with your lies.
January 23rd, 2010 at 4:42 am
[..YouTube..] @moparmonster1965
hmm..I guess you must have blocked me..how immature..so that is why you haven’t been getiong my videos or e-mails I have sent for the last few weeks. Did you block me?..got lots of goodies for you to watch and read..all that supporting my positions..what are you SCARED of?..the TRUTH?…it is much btter than your lies…embrace TRUTH..don’t run from it..it makes you smart..we want to fix you..you need to become smarter..more educated and INFORMED
January 23rd, 2010 at 4:58 am
[..YouTube..] ‘It would be altogether gratuitous and uncalled for, on our part, to write a commendatory preface to the discourses of the First Presidency and Twelve Apostles of this Church. To the Saints their words are as the words of God, their teachings fraught with heavenly wisdom, and their directions leading to salvation and eternal lives.” (JOD Vol 4 preface, comments from ‘The Publisher.’
January 23rd, 2010 at 4:58 am
[..YouTube..] ‘The JOD deservedly ranks as one of the standard works fothe church, and every rightminded Saint will certainly welcome with joy every Number as it comes forth from the press as an adiitional reflector of’ ‘light that shines from Zion hill.’” JOD Vol 8 preface.)
January 23rd, 2010 at 4:59 am
[..YouTube..] Official doctrine is whatever the church feels will put them in the best possible light, shedding polygamy and denail of blacks ti the priesthood when they became inconvenient.
January 23rd, 2010 at 5:00 am
[..YouTube..] I’m not scared of anything you have to offer, but I don’t need you spamming my account.
Your truth is based on a lot of assumptions, none of which are grounded in reality. You accuse me of cut ‘n pasting and sending me videos ad nauseum is exactly the same thing.
January 23rd, 2010 at 12:34 pm
[..YouTube..] @moparmonster1965
Ah the DEVIL ONCE AGAIN..quoting the JOD as official LDS theology when he knows it is not..the DEVIL and his decietful ways…the master of twisting and deciving people by LIES
January 23rd, 2010 at 12:38 pm
[..YouTube..] @moparmonster1965
RE: the church picks and chooses thier doctrine…lol
Ah the “expert” on LDS theology (NOT)…lol..once again truly believes he knows how revelation in our church works….lol..you keep proving yourself for the FRAUD you are….NEVER did at ANY TIME (even in BY’s time) did the JOD get included in our scriptures..moron..if they had been considered revelation at one time..they would have been canonized -and they were NOT <–that is your DILEMMA…lol
January 23rd, 2010 at 12:48 pm
[..YouTube..] @moparmonster1965
I don’t care if you”spam” my e-mail..because I do NOT fear your lies..I love to CONFRONT them and prove that you are a liar and deciever to those who may be reading these comments you post..and so far I have in every case…liar and deciever..as just the RECENT posts below can verify..as ALL those below them buried deep on this video that any can read for themselves…you are of you father..you love darkness more than light and thus seek to TWIST the Lord’s truth..
January 23rd, 2010 at 12:53 pm
[..YouTube..] @moparmonster1965
You do “copy and paste” from anti-mormon sites..that’s VERY obvious to any who have delt with and read all the anti-lit out there..and believe me..I have…yet here I am a Latter-Day Saint. I see through thier manipulations and lies. I INVESTIGATE them thouroughly and they ALWAYS come out as what I have always claimed..LIES!!..where do lies come from I ask? – NOT the Lord – pretty simple test of whose side these men are on who do this..so simple..to know whose side I am on.
January 23rd, 2010 at 12:57 pm
[..YouTube..] @moparmonster1965
You see..you can go out and buy an EXTENSIVE library of LDS themed books and that will not help you..like I said…only the scriptures are REVELATION – everything outside of that is just SPECUALTION..and does not save nor come from the Lord. They are OPINIONS…lol..poor morpar…poor..poor..morpar:
2 Tim. 3: 7
Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.
January 23rd, 2010 at 1:00 pm
[..YouTube..] @moparmonster1965
2 Nephi 33:14-15
14 And you that will not partake of the goodness of God, and respect the words of the Jews, and also my words, and the words which shall proceed forth out of the mouth of the Lamb of God, behold, I bid you an everlasting farewell, for these words shall ccondemn you at the last day.
15 For what I seal on earth, shall be brought against you at the judgment bar; for thus hath the Lord commanded me, and I must obey. Amen.
January 23rd, 2010 at 1:02 pm
[..YouTube..] @moparmonster1965
Book of Mormon
2 Nephi 33:5
5 And it speaketh harshly against sin, according to the plainness of the truth; wherefore, no man will be angry at the words which I have written save he shall be of the spirit of the devil.
January 23rd, 2010 at 1:07 pm
[..YouTube..] @moparmonster1965
RE: your PERCEPTION of the Lord’s workings (i.e. “shedding polygamy,etc..)
LOL..ah how foolish you are to THINK YOU know the mind of the LORD. YOU DARE to question the LORD’s workings? YOU PIT your rebeliious WILL against the LORD thnnking you know how things should have been handled..right?
I’m sure you would have done the same with any of the OTHER commandments the LORD gave and took away (the Lord giveth and taketh..) ie – He gave us the NT it superceded the OT
January 23rd, 2010 at 1:16 pm
[..YouTube..] @moparmonster1965
As with any other revelation..the LORD..not YOU decides when to give and to take away.
The Lord gave Moses commandments – the people rejected them (thus rejecting the LORD’s will) – the Lord tookaway those commandments and gave a lower law – the ten commandments.
January 23rd, 2010 at 1:22 pm
[..YouTube..] @moparmonster1965
Another example:
1 Sam. 10: 19
And ye have this day rejected your God, who himself saved you…ye have said unto him, Nay, but set a king over us.
The people did not want the Lord to be thier King they wanted a king instead.
The WORLD rejected the Lord’s revelation (polygamy) as with those who did not want the Lord to be their King – the world lost out on a higher law ..the commandments the Lord gives are not JUST for his saints..but they are for the enitre world
January 23rd, 2010 at 3:15 pm
[..YouTube..] No actually I’m here to get some entertainment value from watching people like you tie yourself in knots over your religious doctrine.
January 23rd, 2010 at 5:15 pm
[..YouTube..] @pulsipd
Oh really?..show me where this happens?
January 23rd, 2010 at 6:43 pm
[..YouTube..] Oh I don’t need to argue doctrine with you. I’m actually over Mormonism, having been resigned for some time now. I just enjoy reading this stuff for fun.
January 23rd, 2010 at 6:44 pm
[..YouTube..] The theory of evolution being true means there was no Adam and Eve, so arguing doctrine with you is like arguing over the Earth being flat vs. it being round. Its a waste of my time. I don’t need the Mormon Jesus to save me from a spiritual fall since it never happened.
January 23rd, 2010 at 6:44 pm
[..YouTube..] So I enjoy watching you defend your silly prophets “speaking as men” with racism, the lies told about how native Americans are Lamanites when in fact they are Asians, how “reformed Egyptian” doesn’t exist, Egyptian funeral facsimiles can be mistranslated, and how anachronisms in the BoM are really just items that can mutate and change at the
will of an LDS apologist.
January 23rd, 2010 at 6:44 pm
[..YouTube..] But hey, if denying reality and science in your life floats your boat, good luck with that. I guess the warm fuzzy is all you need right ?
January 24th, 2010 at 9:27 pm
[..YouTube..] @bballcardcollector09
Again..you are no academic..to just postulate that you knew I had no kowledge of Free Masonry is very telling of not only your bigotry but your inability to argue by claiming to know what your opponent “thinks”..now that is real academic deduction..lol..I’m laughing my head off at how you liars try so hard to pass yourselves off as being intelligent…lol..oh please.
January 24th, 2010 at 9:31 pm
[..YouTube..] @bballcardcollector09
I therefore PROVE you are a FRAUD…someone who is university educated knows that when you write a paper..you need to state your argument then you need to give your opponents view and then you argue your opponents position – THAT is how one debates and argues – so using that model..I will take just ONe of your arguements you posted: please demonstrate how Jospeh Smith was a “money digger”..that is your claim..now cite our defense..then argue against that
January 24th, 2010 at 9:34 pm
[..YouTube..] sure, but this is youtube, i never claimed to be writing you an essay did i? if i did by your critieria, all your statements would be deemed not worthy
January 24th, 2010 at 9:35 pm
[..YouTube..] so you deny that joseph smith was a money digger when he found the “golden tablets” huh okay sure i’m prove to you he was a money digger.
January 24th, 2010 at 9:38 pm
[..YouTube..] @bballcardcollector09
Well FRAUD..where is your arguement? I guess that “google” isn’t really there for you when it requires actual THINKING…lol..well I await your reply to my question.
While i do so..here is one for you:
Where does one find the words “essence” or “substance” in the Bible…your answer to that (your defense) is that it is found in the creeds..well..here is your dilemma – that is an extra-biblical extrapolation – that means you interpret INTO the bible your theology
January 24th, 2010 at 9:39 pm
[..YouTube..] do you realize that youre arguing with a bumbling idiot whose only goal is to troll here day after day and relies on fideism? is it not obvious that joe smith was a charlatan? imtherealthing’s goal is not to win an argument but to keep an argument going. this is how he “gets a life” and amuses himself from one day to another.
January 24th, 2010 at 9:40 pm
[..YouTube..] @bballcardcollector09
RE: my “statements would be deemed not worthy”
LOL..really?..and you can prove that?..all I hear is your OPINION – with No FACTS to back them..tell me AGAIN how you THINk you are a holder of a Masters Degree?…lol
January 24th, 2010 at 9:43 pm
[..YouTube..] @bballcardcollector09
Please do PROVE he was a “Money Digger”..give citations please…lol..this will be fun…you do know what counts as AUTHENTIC RESEARCH right?..I mean you claim to be academic..well we shall see by your citations..whether they will be PRIMARY SOURCES or just anti-mormon sources…lol
January 24th, 2010 at 9:45 pm
[..YouTube..] i said, by your criteria you gave me that it would have to be in such and such format that your statements are deemed not worthy. I didn’t say they weren’t worthy, i said by your said standards. But you go to college, you study theology, give me a break… lol x 1,000,000,000. of course you can write comments how you want but i need to do so in eassy format for you. lol.
January 24th, 2010 at 9:46 pm
[..YouTube..] @executionerofgod
“fideism”..ROFL!!!..wow..how long did it take you to look up that big word..that must have hurt your little brain..so ATHEIST..why do you keep coming back?..you want God to prove to you HIS truth?..not going to work..lol..guess all those “theories” you BELIEVE in isn’t satisfying huh?..life with theories..must be a pleasant way to live by…hope it fullfills your needs…lol
January 24th, 2010 at 9:48 pm
[..YouTube..] @bballcardcollector09
Who talks of “essays” when they are working on a masters?…hmmm..lol
Last I recall speaking in terms of “essays” harkens back to my high school years.
January 24th, 2010 at 9:48 pm
[..YouTube..] @bballcardcollector09
So far all i hear is..O.P.I.N.I.O.N…no FACTS..well where are they?..citations please.
January 24th, 2010 at 9:51 pm
[..YouTube..] @executionerofgod
I don’t mind his tendency to keep an argument going. It gives me an opportunity to laugh at his self-righteous loathing and condescension, portraying anyone who doesn’t buy into Mormonism as an evil puppet for Satan.
BWAHAHAHA!
January 24th, 2010 at 9:53 pm
[..YouTube..] @AmIWhiteYet
Ah..another fool..welcome..so do you also believe in a 3-headed god?..or are you yet another “theory” believing athiest?…lol
January 24th, 2010 at 9:54 pm
[..YouTube..] here you go imthereathing
Joseph Smith admitted himself to being a money digger. This is recorded in the History of the Church, volume 3 (1838-1839). Also recorded in the LDS publication, the Elder’s Journal, vol. 1, num. 2, pp. 28-29.
January 24th, 2010 at 9:57 pm
[..YouTube..] @imtherealthing
Flag on the field! False assumption by imtherealthing of the Mormon team. 5 yard penalty. Repeat 3rd down…
I believe in God, and his perfection contrary to the Mormon God who is constantly changing and having his leaders lie for him in the process.
Play your cards right and I’ll show you some of my favorite “lying for the Lord” highlights.
January 24th, 2010 at 9:58 pm
[..YouTube..] @bballcardcollector09
Baloney..LOL..I love how you quote something you have no personal access to..lol..you just demonstrated you are a FRAUD. Google is NOT your friend..ROFL!!!..I love it when you fools DEPEND on GOOGLE for your “research”…lol
Do you know what PRIMARY SOURCES are?..go read up on that..then go look at and read that source you quote..then ask yourself..who wrote this..is it quoted correctly and what is the CONTEXT…lol..my side hurts…ROFL!!!…”google academics”…lol
January 24th, 2010 at 9:59 pm
[..YouTube..] to tell you the truth, when i was working on my master’s we called them essays. and i have hence graduated several years ago. why are you making fun of technicalities, we are discussing eternity here???
January 24th, 2010 at 9:59 pm
[..YouTube..] you hit the nail on the head! AM I WHITE YET?
let me guess. you tried to live a righteous life , as has most of you brethren and forefathers, but you still are cursed with non white skin? me too. lol.
have native americans turned white yet? or do dey still be red? mormon puke spew is total and utter nonsense
January 24th, 2010 at 10:00 pm
[..YouTube..] @AmIWhiteYet
Ok..so we established you believe in a god..do you believe in the TRINITY as taught by the councils of Nicea?
January 24th, 2010 at 10:02 pm
[..YouTube..] @bballcardcollector09
“technicalities”?..oh please..I have NEVER heard of Graduates speaking of essays..NEVER…you are a fruad..and don’t speak to me about being an academic..one who depends on “google” for his sources has no masters degree.
Save your concern for my salvation. Think of your own slavation..as liars have no salvation…you are a liar…satan lies and you follow him when you lie.
January 24th, 2010 at 10:04 pm
[..YouTube..] @imtherealthing
No. Do you believe a prophet can lie about something God has revealed or give a false revelation and still be a prophet?
January 24th, 2010 at 10:06 pm
[..YouTube..] these are primary sources, go look them up if you are into truth. if you really aren’t then don’t… its up to you.
January 24th, 2010 at 10:07 pm
[..YouTube..] @executionerofgod
RE: your ignorant rmark on turning white
A PERFECT example of ignorance has not yet been demonstrated as per you quoting an old anti-mormon perception on a very clear teaching…nowhere in our scriptures do we say skin “CHANGES” based on righteousness…you like other anti-mormons take out of context the pure(white) and delightsome reference.
January 24th, 2010 at 10:08 pm
[..YouTube..] @bballcardcollector09
These are NOT PRIMARY SORUCES..go read it
January 25th, 2010 at 3:55 am
[..YouTube..] @moparmonster1965
LOl..keep hiding behind your lies and your parrot talk…you keep repeating yourself in hopes of avoding the TRUTH…you have been proven a liar and deciever over and over again…go say your prayers to your god satan..perhaps he will grant you a way to try to overcome the TRUTH…NOT!!!…lol
January 25th, 2010 at 4:01 am
[..YouTube..] Since your standard of proof is exceedingly low, you don’t have a leg to stand on since you’ve proven nothing.
Now answer the question.
January 25th, 2010 at 4:05 am
[..YouTube..] @moparmonster1965
nice try liar..all can see you for your deceptions..they are all recorded below..and we also learn that we shall also have these words recorded in heaven..you are in very big trouble morpar…your lies will be EXPOSED as we know that all our sins will be exposed before HIM..you can’t run from the TRUTH..it will get you in the end…LIAR.
January 25th, 2010 at 10:09 am
[..YouTube..] @imtherealthing
Well if words are recorded in heaven, then Joseph Smith, Brigham Young, John Taylor, and Wilford Woodruff are in big doo-doo!
Joseph Smith lied about practicing polygamy
Brigham Young lied when he said Adam is God, and anyone who mixes with blacks should die. John Taylor lied about Mormons not practicing polygamy on his mission when he already had 8 wives.
Woodruff lied about the church ceasing polygamy when he sanctioned marriages the next day and took another wife himself.
January 25th, 2010 at 11:48 am
[..YouTube..] Thank you for reminding me once again why I no longer attend church with pious condescending assholes like you sir.
No I didn’t leave so I could sin, don’t you wish that was true. It couldn’t possibly be because your church just does not stand up to a rigorous inspection of its history and doctrine.
And you can slam scientific theories all you want, but your posts display that obvious ignorance I see all the time in regard to evolution so I see its a waste talking to you about it.
January 25th, 2010 at 12:19 pm
[..YouTube..] @AmIWhiteYet
Abram (Abraham) lied about his wife being his wife, Moses lied and took credit for drawing water from a rock when it was the Lord who gave him that ability, Peter Lied when he was asked if he knew the Lord, etc..the list goes on..just thought I would continue the list for you…lol..so I guess all those men had to LIE in those situations for the greater good then?..I don’t know..but I do know one thing…God knew their heart and GOD accepted them as his servants.
January 25th, 2010 at 12:23 pm
[..YouTube..] @pulsipd
“condescending a******* ” nice language athiest…I see your new religion has really made a better human being of you..or was this really you and you picked athiesm to support the type of person you are..I’m guessing that be the case..yes..run along little atheist..enjoy your “theories”
January 25th, 2010 at 12:25 pm
[..YouTube..] @pulsipd
Caught the virus you tried to send me..nice try..FAIL
January 25th, 2010 at 1:06 pm
[..YouTube..] @imtherealthing
Perhaps, but their is a distinction between them and your latter-day prophets. In those cases, they didn’t lead God’s people astray. In the case of Joseph Smith, Brigham Young, and Wilford Woodruff, they most definitely did.
January 25th, 2010 at 1:16 pm
[..YouTube..] Um, I didn’t send you a virus.
January 25th, 2010 at 1:26 pm
[..YouTube..] @AmIWhiteYet
RE: prophets of old and prophets of today
The ONLY distiniction between them that exists is in your presuppositions and OPINION. No FACTS…just as the Pharisees and Saducees argued that Jesus and his apostles were not who they claimed they were (some said Jesus had a devil..others imprisoned the apostles on the same charge leveled at them as you and your kind do today).
January 25th, 2010 at 1:26 pm
[..YouTube..] @AmIWhiteYet
Your kind have been around since the begining of time – you are those who persecute the prophets and crucify Christ afresh…you are of your father satan…the father of lies and murderer of prophets and Christ.
January 25th, 2010 at 1:27 pm
[..YouTube..] @AmIWhiteYet
Acts 7:51-53
Ye STIFFNECKED and uncircumcised IN HEART and EARS, YE DO ALWAYS RESIST the HOLY GHOST: as your fathers did, so do ye.
Which of the PROPHETS have not your fathers persecuted? and they have slain them which shewed before of the coming of the Just One; of whom ye have been now the betrayers and murderers:
Who have received the law BY the disposition of ANGELS, and have not kept it.
January 25th, 2010 at 1:28 pm
[..YouTube..] @AmIWhiteYet
Acts 7:54
When they heard these things, they were cut to the heart, and they gnashed on him with their teeth.
January 25th, 2010 at 2:43 pm
[..YouTube..] @imtherealthing
“Your kind have been around since the begining of time”.
You mean those of us brave enough to stand up and point out a false prophet with their lies and ridiculous claims, no matter how loud their drones get irate and scream otherwise? You finally got one right! Thanks!
January 25th, 2010 at 3:02 pm
[..YouTube..] @AmIWhiteYet
No I made it PRETTY CLEAR. I was comparing you to those who have persecuted the Lord’s servants and who also persecuted the LORD himself..there is no twisting of my words on this one..as I just RE-STATED my position and clarify it here again – you are like those wicked men and women who have done this since the beginiing of time…read the Bible you claim to be acquainted with..if you have..you know that has always been the case – satan fights with all his might against the Lord
January 25th, 2010 at 3:17 pm
[..YouTube..] @imtherealthing
You know nothing of persecution, as such, I suggest you get off the cross. Your thinking is so warped into Mormonism, that there’s no distinction in your mind between you and your church. It’s pitiful.
BTW, I’m not persecuting Jesus as Mormonism isn’t his church, just the workings of a treasure-hunter, con-man and sexual predator who realized he like the Japanese prior to WWII could get more obedient drones by saying their God commanded it.
January 25th, 2010 at 6:32 pm
[..YouTube..] Lies and false teachings can be demonically inspired, therefore, leading sheep astray.
January 25th, 2010 at 6:38 pm
[..YouTube..] God warns about trusting the arm of flesh because personal testimony is the least reliable. Mormonism is built on a testimony like JS’s final first vision account (the last of 9 each one varying), the testimony of the 3 and 8 witnesses. Who were simply given a prepared statement and told to sign. People bearing testimony about how they “know its true” when belief has never been knowledge. It seems compelling and convinces the testifier further that its true (insufficient justification effect)
January 25th, 2010 at 6:53 pm
[..YouTube..] You claim to be Christians, yet the Lord’s WORD is not what you read. Jesus is GODS only begotten Son. His testimony is what the Christian faith is based upon. Christ in the ONLY true way!
January 25th, 2010 at 8:21 pm
[..YouTube..] Study Joseph Smith. Read the Mormon written book In Sacred Loneliness available on amazon which accurately tells of Joseph Smiths womanizing ways with facts about his 33 wives, 10 of whom were under 18, several of whom were married. He married wives without letting his other wives know. This is written by a believing Mormon Mr. Compton.
January 25th, 2010 at 9:32 pm
[..YouTube..] I haven’t been exposed because I’m not hiding anything.
Answer the question: how did words of vernacular origin get into the word-for-word ‘translation’ of the BOM?
January 25th, 2010 at 9:34 pm
[..YouTube..] I see you got completely off the question you couldn’t answer as soon as I got offline last evening.
So where is that mention of a second, third, fourth, of fifth Hill Cumorah?
January 25th, 2010 at 9:35 pm
[..YouTube..] So where are the other Hill Cumorahs mentioned in the BOM?
January 25th, 2010 at 9:38 pm
[..YouTube..] Since you’re so big on calling others liars, why not include yourself and this education you claim to have? No one at your alleged education level should be expressing themselves so poorly.
This clearly indicates that you claim to be educated to give yourself a moral superiority over the rest of us, which hasn’t worked up to this point.
January 26th, 2010 at 5:53 pm
[..YouTube..] @Claydoh01
I was refering to the scripture you quoted from Isaiah…you coniving devil..stop trying to twist things as devils do…now I gave you the answer to that…now are you still going to AVOID my direct questions to you?..are you going to keep trying to DIVERT from the issue we are discussing?
January 26th, 2010 at 5:54 pm
[..YouTube..] @Claydoh01
Come on..stop trying to HIDE..the question was simple and DIRECT – does God have a body or is he just SPIRIT?..this will put everything into CONTEXT like you liars take out of context…well?
January 26th, 2010 at 5:56 pm
[..YouTube..] How about your beliefs?
You believe Satan and Jesus were spirit brother do you not? How then could he be GOD as well in your doctrine? Please explain this paradox.
Please explain your magic undergarments.
Please explain the changes in your doctrine. Do you not believe the Bible is GODS Word?
January 26th, 2010 at 5:57 pm
[..YouTube..] @Claydoh01
Why is it so hard for devils like you to answer questions that are so easy to answer?
January 26th, 2010 at 5:59 pm
[..YouTube..] @Claydoh01
ROFL!!!…ah the devil is trying like what the Pharisees and Saducees always tried to do…bury the saviour or his servants with other questions when they could not answer his/thier questions..but devil..you were asked a question..why will you not answer the question?..I know..because you lying little devils know the answer..and FEAR the answer..for the answer is TRUTH – and TRUTH sets you RUNNING…for darkness cannot abide the light of TRUTH
January 26th, 2010 at 6:01 pm
[..YouTube..] @Claydoh01
WELL DEVIL I am sure everyone wants to hear the answer…is God only Spirit or does he have a body of “flesh and bone, as you see me have” <–Jesus words AFTER his resurrection…comeon devil..say it..does God have a body also?
January 26th, 2010 at 6:03 pm
[..YouTube..] @Claydoh01
Besides the “Does God ahve a body”..you still have NOt answered my question..did the “LORD” himself not say that the apostles also would JUDGE “alongside” him “ALL” the tribes of Isreal?..yes or no?
January 26th, 2010 at 6:04 pm
[..YouTube..] Read back. I have answered you.
I will pray the GOD, Jesus and the Holy Spirit shall open your eyes.
Goodbye for now.
January 26th, 2010 at 6:04 pm
[..YouTube..] @Claydoh01
What’s the matter DEVIL?..the light hurt?
January 26th, 2010 at 6:05 pm
[..YouTube..] @Claydoh01
Yes RUN DEVIL…for you know you work for satan..and TRUTH CANNOT be CONFOUNDED for TRUTH is ETERNAL…for lies will fail and be exposed..as you just were.
January 26th, 2010 at 6:07 pm
[..YouTube..] @Claydoh01
No ..you did not answer the question..you only gave HALF the answer..you quoted a scripture OUT of CONTEXT of what the entire scriptrues say on the matter of who God is..he is BOTH SPIRIT and BODY..not just SPirit..as you would like to potray to justify your false teachings…lying devil..and that is why you run away – for you know this to be true…so your twisting of the scripture was exposed.
January 26th, 2010 at 6:10 pm
[..YouTube..] @Claydoh01
You know you lied..I know you lied and more importantly the LORD knows you lied..and we all (those here who can read below) saw how you twisted that scripture to support your false belief..and how you AVOIDED answer a very simple question posed to you which you purposely AVOIDED because you KNEW the conclusion – yet you love your lies more than you love GOD
January 26th, 2010 at 6:58 pm
[..YouTube..] Yes, you too can fall for the “are you sincere enough with real faith” ruse perpetuated by Mormonism too.
Step 1. Read the Book of Mormon. Be sure to question nothing otherwise you’re not sincere and lack real faith.
Step 2. Pray, don’t expect an objective answer, only the predetermined answer you’re supposed to receive otherwise you’re not sincere and lack faith
Step 3. This subjective feeling can now be pawned off as “truth”
Step 4. Question nothing from this point on
January 26th, 2010 at 7:04 pm
[..YouTube..] So then, does that mean you’ll be practicing polygamy in heaven? After all, according to Mormonism, its an “eternal truth” still in canonized scripture (D&C 132). As such, how many wives will you have?
January 26th, 2010 at 7:16 pm
[..YouTube..] @AmIWhiteYet
No surprise that you would support a liar ( Claydoh01 ) like yourself. All one has to do is READ comments by him and you…don’t worry about whether we are objective..for you only know one thing…
LIES…your ploy to try to cover this doesn’t wash.
Liars are liars…and you are a terrible liar …TRUTH will never fail..lies will always be exposed..as you and your kind have been exposed. What’s the mattter – you devils call on each other to work shifts?…
January 26th, 2010 at 7:17 pm
[..YouTube..] @AmIWhiteYet
1 Pet. 5: 8
Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour:
January 26th, 2010 at 7:17 pm
[..YouTube..] @AmIWhiteYet
2 Nephi 33:6
I glory in plainness; I glory in truth; I glory in my Jesus, for he hath redeemed my soul from hell.
January 26th, 2010 at 7:18 pm
[..YouTube..] @AmIWhiteYet
2 Nephi 9: 34
Wo unto the liar, for he shall be thrust down to hell.
January 26th, 2010 at 7:19 pm
[..YouTube..] @AmIWhiteYet
Ah this is where the liar AmIWhiteYet ran too…since he could not answer my questions on the trinity. Why did you run away AmIWhiteYet ?..why are you afraid to answer questions about your 3-headed god..tell me..why does one not find the words “essence” or “substance” in the bible when you speak of the GODHEAD being ONE GOD…those words are NOT found in the bible in ANY of the original languages..it is EXTRA-BIBLICAL..that means outside of the bible.
January 26th, 2010 at 7:20 pm
[..YouTube..] @AmIWhiteYet
Tell me AmIWhiteYet ..why is it that one can sin against the FATHER and the SON but not against the HOLY GHOST as we read in the “bible”..if they are of the same essence or substance or MIND as trinitarians say ..why is it that you are not sinning against the HOLY GHOST when you sin against the Father and Son..if they are the same ESSENCE or SUBSTANCE or MIND?
January 26th, 2010 at 7:22 pm
[..YouTube..] @AmIWhiteYet
…if one has to believe that ONLY a belief in the bible will save you..then would you then say the CHRISTIANS of the first 3 centuries then do not qualify..um..since the bible was not yet CANONIZED. The writings of the bible originally consisted of 80+ books before the canon of today..and even then you “protestants” changed the bible..you reject the books in the Catholic bible – the original bible.
January 26th, 2010 at 7:23 pm
[..YouTube..] @AmIWhiteYet
Tell me AmIWhiteYet..is LYING of the LORD or of SATAN?..because you sure do a lot of it…well?
Are you sure you beleive in the JESUS of the bible?..show me where he condones lying..actually..show me what he says about liars..I think you would have a better time at finding those sciptures..go study them..but be not like the pharisees..internalize them..for you salvation sake
January 26th, 2010 at 7:24 pm
[..YouTube..] @AmIWhiteYet
Tell me ..why is the doctrine of works and grace not of God as you and your kind teach this doctrine of Martin Luther “Justification by faith” only.
When in FACT for the first 1600 years!!! Christians PRACTICED and BELIEVED in a WORKS and GRACE gospel..in FACT..the Catholics and EASTERN “ORTHODOX” churches still teach this today..it is you evangelicals – the MINORITY who practice this false theology..not to mention that Martin Luther on his death bed confessed he was wrong.
January 26th, 2010 at 8:50 pm
[..YouTube..] I already told you. I don’t believe in the Trinity of the Nicene Creed. It was you who ran away from my question as to whether you believe a prophet can give false revelations or lie about what God has revealed and still be a prophet. Remember?
Now answer the question.
January 27th, 2010 at 7:08 pm
[..YouTube..] @dfwsunking
More regarding polygamy
God giveth and he taketh..god gives us tough tests..as was the case for Abraham to sacrifice his son..or Jonah who was commanded by the Lord to do what he was..where Jonah was so scared to do that test given him..he thought he could sail to the furthest regions to escape God’s will..as was all tests..wether it was polygamy or facing death being a member of his church in early days as well as in these latter days – God will test HIS people.
January 27th, 2010 at 7:12 pm
[..YouTube..] @dfwsunking
Ask yourself..if you are being put to a tough test..if not..you are not worthy of HiS blessings.
God does as He pleases..who are we to question HIM..his WAYS are NOT our “ways”.
Who are “YOU” to know the MIND of the LORD? – um..a nobody..that’s who..so if god wants to test his people..and how he does it..it is HIS PEROGATIVE..not your pathetic little mortal mind that can’t even grasp a simple thing like how revelation works.
January 27th, 2010 at 7:16 pm
[..YouTube..] @imtherealthing
I know polygamy existed before. But in Biblical times it never commanded by God. It was Sarah who suggested it to Abraham despite the fact God took care of it anyway by helping Sarah conceive at 90.
The first actual recorded polygamist was not Abraham, it was Lamech a descendant of Cain.
Even if God did command it, he wasn’t contradicting himself when he did so as he was in the case of JS (contradicting a revelation given just 3 years prior and the 12th article of faith).
January 27th, 2010 at 7:23 pm
[..YouTube..] @dfwsunking
Your mind is made up..even against LOGIC and EVIDENCE..you will have this “thorn in your side” as it says in the scriptures till you submit your REBELLIOUS will to the LORD…it is your anger that BLINDS you to the obvious..the Lord still used those men as prophets..and Jacob and Isacc and others had more than one wife…it says that even Judah went in to a prostitute..yet funny how the Lord still used him..huh?..what of the Saviour’s Geneology?..go read up on them..
January 27th, 2010 at 7:26 pm
[..YouTube..] @dfwsunking
Moron..Jsopeh smith did not “contradict” himself..it is YOU who does not understand how revealtion works..sigh..you will NEVER get it..you are of your father satan..for now..you love DARKNESS more than you love LIGHT and TRUTH.
January 27th, 2010 at 7:29 pm
[..YouTube..] @imtherealthing
I don’t profess to know God’s prerogative. I only know that God would not contradict his previous commandment and as such render himself imperfect. Only a man who wanted to use God for his own gain would.
Gee, people are accusing me of polygamy with Fanny Alger. I’m not guilty though because God says don’t do it. See?
Gee, Sister Zina is pretty hot. I’d sure like to thrust my sickle in her. She’s married but God says I have to or I’ll lose my position and my life!
Right…
January 27th, 2010 at 7:36 pm
[..YouTube..] @dfwsunking
Your vulgarity demonstrates where you are spiritually…how sad…you see your kind always think it is about sex…because your mind is twisted with hatred and lust..therefore..you think what you would do if you were given this commandment…you have lust in your heart..and evil CONTINUALLY..add that to your anger..as a matter of fact…it is the summation of who you are..when you fight against the Lord..those tend to be the qualities of your kind.
January 27th, 2010 at 7:37 pm
[..YouTube..] @dfwsunking
You know you can repent and come back..if only you would do that..how great would be your joy..to embrace love and the Spirit again..rather than misery and hate..as you so obviously have in abundance…
January 27th, 2010 at 7:41 pm
[..YouTube..] @dfwsunking
Revelation for your benifit..as since you have had the Spirit absent in your life for awhile..works like this..The Lord gives a revelation..perhaps for a time..as we see much, but not ALL of the stuff in the OT was changed by NEW revelation..did God contradict himself?..no..God told Jonah he was going to destroy Ninevah..did he?..NO..he gave another revelation that he wouldn’t..God gave the revealtion of taking the Gospel to the Gentiles..did he change HIs mind?..YES.
January 27th, 2010 at 7:44 pm
[..YouTube..] @imtherealthing
What valid reason was there for Joseph to marry women who already had husbands when he was already practicing polygamy and, like in the case of Zina the husband is a faithful member? There is no scripture anywhere that commands polyandry.
What valid reason was there for Joseph Smith to practice polygamy with Fanny Alger when he didn’t even have the sealing keys from Elijah yet? God wouldn’t tell him to practice something without giving him the means necessary.
January 27th, 2010 at 7:44 pm
[..YouTube..] @dfwsunking
MORE on REVELATION
God did change his mind regarding allowing the priesthood also..as he did with the OT where he only had one tribe hold it out of 12..God will change his mind for HIS OWN reasons..not YOURS..YOU do not know HIS WILL and the end from the begining..so stop pretending to know why god does what he does and questioning his will.
Your rebellion is seperating you from God’s love in your live..therefore peace…pray and read the scriptures..attend church..be meek
January 27th, 2010 at 7:47 pm
[..YouTube..] @dfwsunking
Whatever the reason – you and I are NOT privy to it..it is of no concern to you or I..it is the LORD’s will..thus many of those things were kept from the majority of the church..because weak minded people like you could not handle things of the LORD ..the Lord giveth only as much as you can accept..if you can’t accept the FULLNESS of the Gospel – then be a Baptist, or Methodist..but your salvation is limited..for you are not prepared for more of God’s word.
January 27th, 2010 at 7:50 pm
[..YouTube..] @dfwsunking
That is why the Lord says..not to cast pearls before swine..for pigs can’t grasp the significance of the worth of a pearl – they would just trample it under thier hooves in the mud…a thing as precious as a pearl..for to them..it holds no worth…because they do not understand.
Milk before meat..also comes to mind..that is why only about 2-5% of the church was prepared for this higher law of plural marriage…there are many things the vulgar mind/person..cannot abide.
January 27th, 2010 at 7:59 pm
[..YouTube..] @dfwsunking
READ 1 Cor chapter 2
The WISDOM of GOD..mystery (the Greek musterion) means a secret rite or secret.
Perfect also in that chapter means mature or initiated from the Greek “teleios”
Read that and the first few verses of Chapter 3 (as the NT letters never were broken into chapters and verses)
Ponder what Paul is trying to say there.
Some people are just not mature enough spiritually for things…thus our temple rites for example.
January 27th, 2010 at 7:59 pm
[..YouTube..] @imtherealthing
I don’t care what your assumed reason is. God would never contradict himself to this extreme and no matter how much you try to postulate and argue to the contrary, this is the case. Either God is an irrational, forgetful, imperfect being who changes his mind and will at the drop of a hat (1829 – Off, 1831 – On, 1835 – Off again, 1843 – On)
That, or someone is using God, stating things as coming from God’s command for their own personal benefit (sex). I’ll take the latter.
January 27th, 2010 at 8:01 pm
[..YouTube..] @dfwsunking
[Bangs head against a wall] ..like I said..to a vulgar mind..spiritual things will never be understood..and you have a vulgar mind..thus you will never UNDERSTAND spiritual things for you are a “babe” as it says in 1 Cor. 3:1
And I, brethren, could not speak unto you as unto spiritual, but as unto carnal, even as unto babes in Christ.
January 27th, 2010 at 8:06 pm
[..YouTube..] @dfwsunking
God is niether of those things (irrational, forgetful, imperfect)..it is you who who has all those traits..don’t superimpose those traits unto God.
Your lack of COGNITVE comprehension of things spiritual will not come to you..it is impossible as long as you are in darkness..try being meek and lowly of heart..try REPENTING of your pride and anger first..then seek the Lord’s forgivenss for your rebellion…then he shall OPEN your spiritual eyes.
January 27th, 2010 at 8:11 pm
[..YouTube..] @dfwsunking
Stop your blabbering on in ignorance..go read and ponder 1 Cor. 2 & 3..then pray and ask god what is really meant here…then come back and talk..when you are EDUCATED on the matters of things spiritual..vs the things carnal…man’s wisdom vs God’s wisdom..God’s teachings vs man’s teachings..
January 27th, 2010 at 8:11 pm
[..YouTube..] @imtherealthing
Polygamy isn’t “spiritual”. In fact, according to GBH it’s not even doctrine (I guess he conveniently forgot D&C 132). Remember?
January 27th, 2010 at 8:15 pm
[..YouTube..] @imtherealthing
I’m Satan’s minion and he won’t possibly answer me, remember? You of course having the Spirit, the priesthood, and all that spiritual power should be able to just speed dial him and get an immediate answer for me. Sadly, you can’t, can you? I suggest you ask your fearless leader Pres. Monson. Let me know what he says…
Thus sayeth the Lord (crickets)…
January 27th, 2010 at 8:21 pm
[..YouTube..] Furthermore, how do you reconcile church presidents and prophets like Woodruff, Snow and Joseph F. Smith who clearly violated God’s Manifesto command and as such should have excommunicated?
Plus, what happens to Mormons today who reject polygamy in the next life on GBH’s claim that its not doctrinal? So much for not leading God’s people astray (again)…
January 27th, 2010 at 8:43 pm
[..YouTube..] @dfwsunking
According to GBH..it isn’t NOW as it wasn’t at times in the Book of Mormon or other times..REVELATION will change as we see the Lord “giveth and he taketh” accrding to his will..not yours..so get over it..no one is asking you to live it now or ever..but I would recommend that you deal with your anger issues.
January 27th, 2010 at 8:45 pm
[..YouTube..] @dfwsunking
Your MATURITY is just unbelievable..you are probably a single guy living with his mother..because at your age you should have more wisdom..unless of course your mind has stop maturing after a point..really..come on..grow up.
January 27th, 2010 at 8:50 pm
[..YouTube..] @dfwsunking
My answers will not placate you..because you love satan more than you love God..your anger is so obvious to any reader here…you do not seek answers and TRUTH..rather you seek to justify your anger…you want to HATE..and HATING for you is easier than praying for truth and reading for truth..hard to give up your sins huh?…you LOVE your sins too much to give them up..funny that polygamy is a real issue with you..your mind is in the gutter. Sex seems to OCCUPY your mind a lot.
January 27th, 2010 at 9:46 pm
[..YouTube..] Mormon bishops are not required to remain celibate. In fact, they are required to be married. Briggs marriage follows a traditional structure, where he is the primary provider and his wife is the primary nurturer, roles that best meet the needs of their young children, he said.
The church teaches that men have the primary duty of being the providers for their home, Briggs explained. Im the priesthood authority of my house and what that means is if someone needs to be in charge, its me
January 28th, 2010 at 4:02 pm
[..YouTube..] @imtherealthing
As I told you before I’m not an atheist. Keep making false accusations though…
It’s not the Lord’s church. It’s a church created by a man obsessed with folklore who used his obsession for money, power, and sexual conquest. A man guilty of glass-looking, bank fraud, polygamy, perjury, false revelations, destroying a printing press and a litany of other crimes who was killed in a shootout with a mob and is now exposed (courtesy of the internet) for his real character.
January 28th, 2010 at 4:15 pm
[..YouTube..] @AmIWhiteYet
LOl..just anti-mormon jibberish we all have heard and defended..and shown to be lies and half-truths and distortions..all the while your kind demonstrating your HATE and bigotry….lol..and least of all..it is nothing but your own OPINIONS as we see with the Saducees and Pharisees who also held thier own OPINIONS where they too slandered the Lord and his servants.
January 28th, 2010 at 4:15 pm
[..YouTube..] @AmIWhiteYet
AS for you not being an athiest…oh really?..if you DON’T ACCEPT the TRINITY what then do you ACCEPT?..you never did answer that one.
January 28th, 2010 at 4:19 pm
[..YouTube..] It’s a nice and touching video, but it doesn’t tell the truth. The truth is, the stories in the Book of Mormon aren’t historical. Joseph Smith lived in adultery by having many wives at the same time. The Book of Mormon says that Nephites and Lamanites lived in the Americas, in large numbers and in large cities, yet neither have been found in Archaeology. These two peoples faught in a massive battle around 400AD, leaving no evidence that there was a battle. No weapons, no buriel grounds, nothing!
January 28th, 2010 at 5:06 pm
[..YouTube..] @samtorrance5590
Ah another liar joins us…another liar spewing more lies by PARROTING old anti-mormon objections…lol
Don’t your kind get sick of lying?..of distorting?
1) This video does tell the truth..it is of God because an apostle of the Lord is talking – whether or not YOU accept him does not nullify his calling as an apostle
2) JS did have 33 wives..so what..so did many of the prophets throughout the ages..read below for more on this topic…included are all the scriptures
January 28th, 2010 at 5:10 pm
[..YouTube..] @samtorrance5590
3) The Book of Mormon is God’s WORD whether you accept it or not..matters not..as it is another TESTAMENT of CHRIST..for all prophets who are of GOD preach and testify of GOD as do those in the Book of Mormon.
As for the OLD objection that archaeology does not prove it (yet) so what?..where was this ever a requirement for a belief in GOD? – that’s right – NOWHERE
I will play devil’s advocate – our D&C has ALL of its archaeology VERIFIED whereas the bible doesn’t
January 28th, 2010 at 5:14 pm
[..YouTube..] @samtorrance5590
The Hebrews/Isrealites/Jews when they WANDERED for 40 years in exhile…they estimate that there were roughly 2,000,000 people and animals – yet were is the archeaological EVIDENCE for such a group? – NOWHERE – therefore using YOUR standard – the bible is FLASE…are their any INTELLIGENT anti-mormons anywhere?..please..just ONE
January 28th, 2010 at 5:16 pm
[..YouTube..] @samtorrance5590
My turn to ask questions:
..why does one not find the words “essence” or “substance” in the bible when you speak of the GODHEAD being ONE GOD…those words are NOT found in the bible in ANY of the original languages..it is EXTRA-BIBLICAL..that means outside of the bible.
Therefore..since you CANNOT make this connection of thier ONENESS being this way from the bible – that means your nicene god is FALSE.
January 28th, 2010 at 5:17 pm
[..YouTube..] @samtorrance5590
..why is it that one can sin against the FATHER and the SON but not against the HOLY GHOST as we read in the “bible”..if they are of the same essence or substance or MIND as trinitarians say ..why is it that you are not sinning against the HOLY GHOST when you sin against the Father and Son..if they are the same ESSENCE or SUBSTANCE or MIND?
January 28th, 2010 at 5:18 pm
[..YouTube..] @samtorrance5590
ON ONENESS”
John 17: 11, 21-22
And now I am no more in the world, but these are in the world, and I come to thee. Holy Father, keep through thine own name those whom thou hast given me, that THEY may be ONE, AS WE ARE.
That THEY “ALL” may be ONE; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be ONE IN US: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me.
And the glory which thou gavest me I have given them; that THEY MAY BE ONE, even as we are ONE
January 28th, 2010 at 5:20 pm
[..YouTube..] @samtorrance5590
..why is it that false christianity needs analogies like an egg, a triangle, or water in its three phases to EXPLAIN thier 3-headed god?..can you point to just ONE place in the Bible where ANY of the prophets or apostles use these very analogies or ANY analogies for that matter to explain the GODHEAD?..well?
Guess your “god” is not found in the bible huh?
January 28th, 2010 at 5:25 pm
[..YouTube..] @samtorrance5590
John 17:3
And this is LIFE ETERNAL, that THEY might KNOW THEE the ONLY TRUE GOD, and Jesus Christ, whom THOU HAST SENT.
…you will notice that God is no “mystery” in a TRINITY like most trinitarians teach – it is LIFE ETERNAL to know “GOD” AND <– Christ as it says here..so we see also that they are TWO seperate beings..not one in a substance or essence..for that is nowhere to be found in the Bible..as is your false nicene “god”
January 28th, 2010 at 5:26 pm
[..YouTube..] @samtorrance5590
Acts 7:51-53
Ye STIFFNECKED and uncircumcised IN HEART and EARS, YE DO ALWAYS RESIST the HOLY GHOST: as your fathers did, so do ye.
Which of the PROPHETS have not your fathers persecuted? and they have slain them which shewed before of the coming of the Just One; of whom ye have been now the betrayers and murderers:
Who have received the law BY the disposition of ANGELS, and have not kept it.
January 28th, 2010 at 5:26 pm
[..YouTube..] @samtorrance5590
Acts 7:54
When they heard these things, they were cut to the heart, and they gnashed on him with their teeth.
January 28th, 2010 at 6:39 pm
[..YouTube..] @imtherealthing
We’re not gnashing our teeth. It’s you gnashing yours on reality. A reality that will in the years to come prove less and less kind to Mormonism.
Conversions continue to drop because people can now look read, and see what the missionaries never wanted to tell them in advance.
DNA namely admixture mapping will only prove more fatal since it will show there was no extinction of Lamanite DNA
More scientific discoveries will continue to discredit BOM historical claims
Get ready!
January 28th, 2010 at 6:45 pm
[..YouTube..] Seminary enrollment continues to drop as well, meaning fewer brainwashed kids who will wind up going on missions or go through the temple
Activity rates continue to decline. I expect the members per unit to rise to 500 as fewer people will be filling the pews. Only 30% are active.
Apostles like Oakes and Holland will become more unhinged and make even more ridiculous statements like Prop 8 fallout was the same as civil rights persecution in the 60’s (Mormons were lynched? Really?) BWAHAHAHA!
January 28th, 2010 at 6:54 pm
[..YouTube..] Shows like Big Love will continue to grow in popularity meaning polygamy will always be the 600 lb. gorilla in the middle of the public consciousness no one can ignore.
Expect more Prop 8 fallout like the damning legal brief where church tries to maintain plausible deniability over their involvement
When the US census comes out later this year although the church claims 5 million members, those who when surveyed consider themselves Mormon will be less than 3 million
Personally, I can’t wait!
January 28th, 2010 at 6:54 pm
[..YouTube..] @dfwsunking
I laugh at you..you know why?..because of the following reasons:
1) You are a moron (undisputed)
2) You are a liar (that has been proven many times here)
3) You are an angry person (anyone can read that to confirm what I say si true)
4) Nothing you say..really will change ANY Latter-Day Saint’s mind – you can’t be taken seriously based on the above..lol
January 28th, 2010 at 6:59 pm
[..YouTube..] @dfwsunking
You LOST the argument on polygamy
Then in a panic you turned to polyandry..hoping to recover ..yet once again failed when I presented a logical explaination..you just did not like – boo hoo
And now you turn to DNA and all the other “OLD” objections you have had beaten into the ground before..so you want to re-gurgitate all that again – you are incapable of LOGICAL and INTELLIGENT discussion – your anger and LACK of EDUCATION is too horribly stacked AGAINST YOU…sorry
January 28th, 2010 at 7:03 pm
[..YouTube..] Keep calling names and making false assumptions, further proof of your detachment with reality.
In the meantime, I’ll be looking positively forward for April when the church reluctantly announces convert baptisms are less then 300k (again) and churches like the JW’s, Seventh Day Adventists, Assemblies of God and others are growing faster (again)
The stone cut of the mountain is stuck in the mire of its numerous lies and deceit.
January 28th, 2010 at 7:08 pm
[..YouTube..] @imtherealthing
I didn’t lose the argument. I proved that given what God stated and the time when he stated it compared to the actions of JS and later church presidents during those times shows they all should have been excommunicated and proves they were never God’s prophets, just horny men peddling sex for salvation.
My favorite quote is from Heber C. Kimball “I think of more of taking another wife than I do of buying another cow”
3 cheers for Mormon heiferdom!
January 28th, 2010 at 7:24 pm
[..YouTube..] @dfwsunking
Of course you LOST the argument..you poor deluded moron..did you really think you won?..seriously?
You contradcited yourself several times..and you were shown to contradict the biblical verses..
There you go AGAIN..”sex” on the brain..you have mentioned “sex” numerous times – too numerious to list now..so what does that say about what OCCUPIES your mind?..hmm
Your VULGARITY is also very telling..your FRUITS are ROTTEN..
HATE
SEX on the brain all the time, etc
January 28th, 2010 at 7:30 pm
[..YouTube..] @imtherealthing
Let me explain contradiction again.
Saying to practice polygamy with the Lamanites in 1831, then suddenly reversing yourself and saying not to practice it in 1835 is contradiction. Banging Fanny Alger after God said no polygamy in 1835 is contradiction. Marrying women who already had husbands when there’s no recorded commandment anywhere for this ever is contradiction.
Saying God said to stop polygamy then continuing to practice it secretly is contradiction.
Pure hypocrisy!
January 28th, 2010 at 7:34 pm
[..YouTube..] @dfwsunking
“banging”?
I rest my case..you are a PERVERT..
January 28th, 2010 at 9:22 pm
[..YouTube..] @imtherealthing
No, I’m calling out one. A certain Joseph Smith…
You won’t catch me banging 14 year olds or women who already have husbands. Too bad he can’t say that….
January 29th, 2010 at 2:56 pm
[..YouTube..] @dfwsunking
FINALLY…you admit that lies are not from the LORD- yet you do it ALL the TIME.
AS for the lies of the prophets to protect their families from persecution from the devils in government who had just issued an EXTERMINATION manifesto on the saints..well..can you blame them?..as was the case with Abraham another PROPHET who LIED to protect he and his wife Sara..when he lied about her being his wife..hmm..another lying PROPHET about a wife not being his..sound familiar?…moron.
January 29th, 2010 at 2:56 pm
[..YouTube..] @imtherealthing
Ah, but the D&C is rife with false prophesies like Zion being built in Independence, Mo beginning with the temple before this generation shall pass away or there being much gold and silver in Salem (more treasure-hunting obsession by Joseph)
Mission of David Patten in the spring. (He died beforehand)
I know, false prophesy, shmophesy…
January 29th, 2010 at 2:59 pm
[..YouTube..] @imtherealthing
Your chronology is WAY WAY WAY WAY OFF pal! (52 years) in fact. They lied when the Mormons were in Utah and God supposedly said its time to stop and anyone who continued would be excommunicated after the Manifesto in 1890. The extermination order was in 1838.
BWAHAHAHAHAHA!
January 29th, 2010 at 3:02 pm
[..YouTube..] @dfwsunking
Right..the D&C is rife with “false prophisies”..lol..no more so than the Bible..have you seriously EVER read how people RIP the bible to PIECES the same way you devils try with the Book of Mormon?..give me a break..you belong to the SAME type of CREATURE who does this to the bible…for it is the SAME authour (the DEVIL) who hardens YOUR heart AGAINST the LORD’s WORD…you attack the Book of Mormon as those who also attack the Bible.
January 29th, 2010 at 3:04 pm
[..YouTube..] @dfwsunking
Do you think that is the ONLY order to exterminate the LDS?..moron?..that is a POPULAR one ..but not the ONLY one..moron…go read history..moron.
January 29th, 2010 at 3:05 pm
[..YouTube..] @dfwsunking
I love how you keep trying to find more and more against the church AFTER your pathetic attempts fail on the other topics I prove..yet you continue even AFTER the LORD answers your pathetic objections via me…you heart is CONTINUIOUSLY seeking after DARKNESS.
January 29th, 2010 at 3:09 pm
[..YouTube..] @dfwsunking
You also “MISS” the point – we were PERSECUTED FAR FAR MORE than your one reference to LDS doing this..and yet LDS showed some mercy..did your mobs show the same mercy?..um..no..tar and feathering, RAPE, MURDER, burning and looting of homes…shall I go on?..go read up on Huans Mill and the children who were killed (babies shot in the head at point blank range)..who were the leaders of these mobs?…ministers/priests, pastors of FALSE “chrsitianity..that’s who..that is FACT.
January 29th, 2010 at 3:10 pm
[..YouTube..] “A man that violated this law in the Doctrine and Covenants, 1835 edition, until the acceptance of that revelation by the church, violated the law of the church if he practiced plural marriage. Yes sir, he would have been cut off from the church, I think I should have been if I had. Before the giving of that revelation in 1843 if a man married more wives than one who were living at the same time, he would have been cut off from the church.” Lorenzo Snow
So why wasn’t Joseph exed then?
January 29th, 2010 at 3:17 pm
[..YouTube..] @imtherealthing
No you miss the point. The Mormons exacted revenge against an innocent wagon party for events that took place nearly 20 years before. I know about Haun’s and it was a 9 year old boy (not babies).
The Haun’s Mill massacre was committed on October 30 by an unauthorized militia band who acted in retaliation for the Mormon Danite raids on their towns of Millport, Gallatin, and Grinder’s Fork and the Danites’ attack on other state militia troops at Crooked River on October 25.
January 29th, 2010 at 3:19 pm
[..YouTube..] @dfwsunking
Like I said..your HEART loves darkness more than light..the more I answer and show you they are lies or distorted truths..or half-truths or bold-faced lies..you continue on and on..you are like your counter-parts who THIRSTED for BLOOD of the Saviour and his prophets – like RAVAGING WOLVES you persecute the Lord’s prophets and his church (you recrucify the Lord) ..and no amount of blood will satisfy you
January 29th, 2010 at 3:22 pm
[..YouTube..] @imtherealthing
These aren’t lies, you just have to throw up the blinders, and dismiss them as such every time they show the church is nothing more than a giant massive fraudulent enterprise of hypocrites and false prophets.
Truth hurts!
January 29th, 2010 at 3:22 pm
[..YouTube..] @dfwsunking
There were babies..in many ofthe MURDERS by your blood thirsty mobs…and yes there was a 9 year old boy and that militia was under orders by a Colonel William Jennings – a solider of the U.S. army..repersenting such…and yes in most cases ministers/pastors/preists did indeed lead ost of the mobs..go read history.
January 29th, 2010 at 3:23 pm
[..YouTube..] @dfwsunking
No TRUTH hurts you persecutors..well maybe not..since you have murder and lies in your hearts.
January 29th, 2010 at 3:24 pm
[..YouTube..] @dfwsunking
Acts 7:51-53
Ye STIFFNECKED and uncircumcised IN HEART and EARS, YE DO ALWAYS RESIST the HOLY GHOST: as your fathers did, so do ye.
Which of the PROPHETS have not your fathers persecuted? and they have slain them which shewed before of the coming of the Just One; of whom ye have been now the betrayers and murderers:
Who have received the law BY the disposition of ANGELS, and have not kept it.
January 29th, 2010 at 3:24 pm
[..YouTube..] @dfwsunking
Acts 7:54
When they heard these things, they were cut to the heart, and they gnashed on him with their teeth.
January 29th, 2010 at 3:27 pm
[..YouTube..] @imtherealthing
Like having intimate sexual relations with 14 years old and already married women, you won’t catch me butchering up a wagon party either.
Heinous crimes:
Mormons – 2, Dfwsunking – 0
January 29th, 2010 at 5:54 pm
[..YouTube..] @dfwsunking Your knid will never be satisfied with answers…even your counterparts the Saducees and Pharisees could never be placated…they thirsted for more signs and proofs and always tried to TRAP the saviour and his apostles..like you devils those devils failed..and like I pointed out to the other pervert – you two seem caught up in “sex” talk a lot..so one can see what’s on your brain most often…perverts go hand and hand with lying and persecuting the Lord’s church – you are of satan
January 29th, 2010 at 6:07 pm
[..YouTube..] @imtherealthing
Jesus refuted the Saducees and Pharisees with ease using their own words and actions to condemn them. I’m doing the same thing to condemn Mormonism using their own false prophesies, false teachings and lies. Deal with it!
January 29th, 2010 at 6:24 pm
[..YouTube..] @moparmonster1965
Yes, 2.5 million people died at the Hill Cumorah in 400AD in a massive battle, not leaving a single trace. Neither weapons, bodies, or records outside of the book of mormon mentioning this battle. That is 1 of my many reasons for not taking The Book Of Mormon as the Word of God.
January 29th, 2010 at 6:28 pm
[..YouTube..] @imtherealthing
Thank you for insulting me and not providing a single shred of evidence against my claims.
I suggested that it’s impossible for millions of people to die in a battle leaving not a trace of that battle, neither weapons, bodies or a record of the battle (except in the Book of Mormon).
January 29th, 2010 at 6:29 pm
[..YouTube..] @imtherealthing
We test the bible in terms of it’s history. Because, if we find it to be lying about history, we can automatically discount it as the word of God. Because God cannot lie, and will record reliable history in his word. He succeeds, it seems, to do this in the Bible. Yet, he cannot do it in the Book of Mormon. Not the same God if you ask me.
January 29th, 2010 at 6:32 pm
[..YouTube..] @imtherealthing
Are you a mormon? Aren’t you meant to be “good” to get into heaven. All I see on this page is you insulting people, and not defending your faith at all. I don’t think there is anyone here out to hurt or offend you. We just want you to know the truth. The book of mormon does not stand as reliable history.
January 29th, 2010 at 6:35 pm
[..YouTube..] @imtherealthing
There is plenty of biblical evidence. The bible records it, and it is our only reliable ancient source for this history. Can we trust? Why not?
What sort of archaeological evidence would you expect from people wandering in a desert?
On the other hand, huge civilizations in the Americas. Writing on metal, using coins, having massive battles….. yet none can be found. Coins were not used in anceitn America. Writing on metal… did not happen my friend. BOM is wrong.
January 29th, 2010 at 7:26 pm
[..YouTube..] @dfwsunking
You are a hater..you cannot see for the nose in front of you..that you are like your counter-parts the Pharisess and Saducees. I am not here to prove the church is TRUE to you morons..because that will NEVER happen..if the LORD intended to do that…he could have sent an ARMY of HIS ANGELS to do so..I am here only to CONDEM you and your kind by EXPOSING your lies and methodology ..your METHODOLOGY is that of your counter parts above as I mentioned
January 29th, 2010 at 9:03 pm
[..YouTube..] @imtherealthing. hey I’m a pentecostal Christian and am just doing a bit of research on Mormonism. Could you give me a quick overview of the Mormon beliefs? (P.S. ensure every word you speak with to non-believers is with gentleness and respect reflecting the way Jesus would talk, keeping a clear conscience, so that those who speak maliciously against your good behavior in Christ may be ashamed of their slander.)
January 30th, 2010 at 2:56 am
[..YouTube..] @temsa026
Go to LDS(dot)org
I once was a pentecostal before I converted to the LORD’s Church.
May your studies go well for you when you call the missionaries to your home to teach you.
January 30th, 2010 at 2:58 am
[..YouTube..] @samtorrance5590
NONSENSE..there were not 2.5 million who died on Hill Cumorah..no such number is given…do not trust your anti-mormon sources…just makes you look uncrediable as a person who kows anything to do with LDS theology – which you obviously do not.
January 30th, 2010 at 3:03 am
[..YouTube..] @samtorrance5590
Want to know what is also “impossible”? The biblical proof for talking asses or dragons or unicorns or people being raised from the dead or a sea being parted..yet we all believe that..right?.Give it a rest..that is why it is called faith.
But let’s turn to “biblical” archaeology shall we..no one has been able to PROVE that almost 2 million people and animals traveled in the wilderness for 40 years..they have not found ONE shred of evidence for this – sending you a video
January 30th, 2010 at 3:12 am
[..YouTube..] @samtorrance5590
Don’t pull that garbage on me about “my not being good” hypocrite..for you and your kind come here with evil in your hearts…and lies.
YOu are like your father the serpent..I don’t buy into your lies.
My anger is justified..as I know your kind very well..having been one of you before…I too persecuted the Lord’s church..just like you and the other liars – I know your tricks I also know how you think and why you do what you do. I lied to myself then as you do now…
January 30th, 2010 at 3:16 am
[..YouTube..] @samtorrance5590
God dose not lie..but you do and so do other wicked men and women..satan is out to destroy and discredit the LORD’s church..and he has succeded..the evidence you say?..look at ALL the CONFUSING and CONTRADICTING doctrines your kind teach and believe – the division (and save your baloney that you all agree on the basics – so full of it..as I used that before – God is NOT a God of Confusion nor is HIS house divivded..for it could not stand if it was..and your house is divided)
January 30th, 2010 at 3:17 am
[..YouTube..] @samtorrance5590
You have FAILED to address the questions I posed..why?..what are you afraid of? – the TRUTH?
January 30th, 2010 at 3:24 am
[..YouTube..] @samtorrance5590
Your obvious LACK knowledge of LDS theology and knowledge of arcaheaology for the Book of Mormon – we do not say “coins” that was not in the original heading – they were measurments..otheriwise prove we said coins in the Book of Mormon..you CAN’T – as the Heading was in error for the chapter which was not in the ORIGINAL manuscript – you DECIEVER..you knew this already – yet here you are mis-quoting us AGAIN – that is called DECEIT – where does that originate from? – satan
January 30th, 2010 at 3:26 am
[..YouTube..] @samtorrance5590
Are you kidding me?..there were records found in all parts of the world where people wrote on metal plates..give it up..if that is the case..how did JS know this at his time..for there were not any he was aware of..pretty impressive I say..
January 30th, 2010 at 5:57 am
[..YouTube..] nice trolling.
January 30th, 2010 at 7:01 am
[..YouTube..] @imtherealthing
Classic Mormon. When their own faith book fails, attack the other half of their faith, the Bible! I can’t believe you’re calling me a liar. I’m simply saying that there’s no evidence that Nephites or Lamanites lived in the Americas.
You’re very insulting, and you just seem to attack the Bible instead of giving me solid evidence that Nephites and Lamanites did live in the Americas. Like I said, no record, no buriel grounds, no weapons, no coins etc etc.
January 30th, 2010 at 11:33 am
[..YouTube..] @executionerofgod
The only troll are those like you who just can’t seem to stay away from church themed videos…lol..still can’t keep away huh?;;;;lol
January 30th, 2010 at 11:48 am
[..YouTube..] @samtorrance5590
NO..you really should say “CLASSIC anti-mormon”…you make up stats, distort our history, give half-truths,and out-right lie in most cases.<- THAT is CLASSIC ANTI-MORMON which equates to the CLASSIC METHODOLOGY used by SATAN as we see through out the ages.
Attack the Bible? – what?…my dear little devil…all I do is merely point out what is OBVIOUS that your kind seem to AVOID – that if the same standards you use against is also applied to the Bible that the bible fails
January 30th, 2010 at 11:52 am
[..YouTube..] @samtorrance5590
I’m assuming your poor feelings were hurt when you found out the TRUTH that your archaeology for the Bible is in question as is your attempts to discredit the Book of Mormon – you poor devil..tsk tsk…you really believed you could PROVE something like FAITH?
That is why we pray and we turn to God and depend on the Holy Spirit to guide us….you anti-mormons need your “signs” like your counter parts the Pharisees and Saduceees…you are devils..you don’t trust in GOD
January 30th, 2010 at 12:23 pm
[..YouTube..] You’re talking about the extermination of two entire civilizations and I believe the word ‘millions’ is used by a Mormon source (I don’t have it front of me at the moment), so that’s million, plural, meaning more than one. So we arrive at a number of at least two million and the numbers given in the BOM are somewhere near 500,000, making 2.5 million.
But you’re right, it has nothing to do with LDS theology, and neither does the BOM itslef.
January 30th, 2010 at 12:24 pm
[..YouTube..] Now that is truly miraculous, Sam, This seems to imply that the church is lying.
January 30th, 2010 at 12:25 pm
[..YouTube..] What he means by ‘lies’ is anything that doesn’t jibe with the current LDS theology, up to and including their own texts written by their own prophets.
January 30th, 2010 at 12:40 pm
[..YouTube..] When it comes to Mormon racism. I love this recently discovered quote by Spencer W. Kimball to an interviewer regarding allowing blacks to finally hold the priesthood.
“I don’t know that I should be the one doing this, but if I don’t, my successor [Ezra Taft Benson] won’t.”
Why would his successor matter if God is the true source for the revelation?
It had nothing to do with revelation, just avoiding possible lawsuits and losing their tax-exempt status if they didn’t.
January 30th, 2010 at 3:53 pm
[..YouTube..] @dfwsunking
Ah dfwsunking the guy who does not believe in the TRINITY is back and is not sure what he believes yet attacks others beliefs…ROFL!!!
January 30th, 2010 at 3:57 pm
[..YouTube..] @moparmonster1965
Go find me those STATS…good luck…ignoramus..willing to believe everything negative about my faith with no support..yet he CAN’T answer the simple questions on his own false teachings…lol..he hides behind posts he does not send to me..hoping to avoid my detection ..hoping no doubt to potray he dealt a leathal blow to the Lord’s church because he hopes I won’t check back on here to see his comments..lol…right ..as if that will ever happen…lol
January 30th, 2010 at 3:58 pm
[..YouTube..] @moparmonster1965
@morpar the false christian
Isaiah 5:20
Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!
January 30th, 2010 at 7:48 pm
[..YouTube..] @imtherealthing
Lol, now your mocking me.
There’s faith. But with the Bible, there is faith in fact… and room for faith. Like, faith in God’s promises. But having faith in something that is written as historical is different. We can test if something is historical or not. And with the Bible, it wins out. It is archaeologically sound. There is no other account about the destruction of Jericho except in the bible. Yet when they did archaeological work, they saw it told the truth.
January 30th, 2010 at 7:51 pm
[..YouTube..] @imtherealthing
Do you get what I’m trying to say there?
Yes, there is faith in God that he will keep his promises and that he is true. But when it comes to historical accounts, we can test them. And if we can show that something written in the “Word of God” is not historical, then clearly it cannot be the Word of God. The Bible has never failed an archaeological test. There is a good book called “Evidence that Demands a Verdict” by Josh McDowell. Stop attacking the Bible, and defend your BOM
January 30th, 2010 at 9:05 pm
[..YouTube..] @samtorrance5590
We have time and time again. It even went through the United States court system and with a fine comb they went through it. The book of Mormon defends itself, and you will find yourself on the wrong side, fighting the wrong side.
Not everyone that cries Lord, Lord, will enter the Kingdom of Heaven according to the gospel of Matthew.
January 30th, 2010 at 9:07 pm
[..YouTube..] And there was a breakdown from Within and from without the Original Church, the apostles couldn’t replace the spots fast enough as the people around them were not ready to accept the truth in their day either and the Apostles were killed by wickedness.
Like any structure with no foundation the original church fell into darkness and interpretation of men.
2 Thessalonians 2:1-3, Isaiah 60:2, Amos 8:11
Restoration ?
Isaiah 29:14, Acts 3:21, Revelations 14:6-7 all of Daniel Chapter 2
January 30th, 2010 at 11:02 pm
[..YouTube..] the bom defends itself? historically accurate accounts of battles that never happened/ fabricated native american “hebraic geneology”.
completely fabricated skin of blackness nonsense.
the book of mormon cannot defned itself but of course no mormon will ever admit that. exmormons do daily
January 31st, 2010 at 12:35 am
[..YouTube..] What negative things do I purport to be the truth that isn’t?
That the church lied about its stance on polygamy? That blood atonement was preached? That Adam was taught to be God? That blacks are permitted the priesthood when your texts say they shouldn’t be? That the church altered its doctrines to appear more Christian?
These are all facts and can all be proven as such.
January 31st, 2010 at 12:39 am
[..YouTube..] I found the fell-good book for 1967, “The Church and the Negro.”
It tries to soften the stance the church takes and explain its position, but goes on to reaffirm it anyway.
The book has no publisher noted, but it was written with the consultation of the church authorites.
January 31st, 2010 at 12:42 am
[..YouTube..] You’re projecting again, putting forth the false gospel and calling it truth because you want to become a god.
January 31st, 2010 at 12:49 pm
[..YouTube..] @moparmonster1965
Jesus Christ Himself taught the above doctrine in the Bible.
January 31st, 2010 at 12:53 pm
[..YouTube..] @moparmonster1965
It is really interesting how anti-Mormons like to mention the priesthood, when most of them come from some derision of the Southern Baptist Convention. A group who’s fundamental beliefs was to keep Slavery legal. A group of churches that didn’t change their position until well into the late 1870’s. Consider that verses Joseph Smith riding 100’s of miles try to talk President Buchanan into stopping slavery 30 years prior.
January 31st, 2010 at 12:55 pm
[..YouTube..] @executionerofgod
Maybe so, However there is virtually zero solid proof that any of the Bible happened either.
January 31st, 2010 at 1:57 pm
[..YouTube..] @samtorrance5590
@samtorrance5590
WHAT?..the “Bible has NEVER FAILED a archaeological test”?…are you STUPID????..are you a high school kid?..perhaps some 13 year old who hasn’t read much?..listen kid..go do some REAL reserach before exposing your stupidity further..I seriously spat out the food I was eating when I read your STUPID comment…thanks..that was a great meal too….stupid anti-mormons..Sheesh…one can never find an intelligent anti-mormon anywhere…
January 31st, 2010 at 2:02 pm
[..YouTube..] @executionerofgod
@executionerofgod
Ah the athiest still concerning himself with religion..and not just ANY religion, but the LDS religion..why?..because he can’t stay away from the TRUTH he so DESPERATELY wants us in the church to PROVE to him..sorry just not going to happen..the TRUTH is TRUTH..you can keep fighting AGAINST the TRUTH but you will not win as won’t the rest of your kind for this work is God’s work.
Poor poor excutionerofgod..so angry at the LORD for his own failings
January 31st, 2010 at 2:06 pm
[..YouTube..] @moparmonster1965
I love how morparmonster1965 always accuses the LORD’s church of lying…ROFL!!!..this coming from the master of lies himself….
AGAIN (because we all know you lie and misquote LDS theology) – we NEVER PREACHED the ADMA GOD “THEORY”..notice it is theory not REVELATION..and it is nowhere to be found in our revelations that are canonized – as I have EXPLAINED to this simpleton hundreds of times where his DECIETFULNESS comes into play is he knows our stance on this already
January 31st, 2010 at 2:08 pm
[..YouTube..] @moparmonster1965
RE: the Lying about polygamy…the little devil morpar knows our postion on this too since we have beating his SMALL brain into the ground with the answer many times..but still in his lying fashion..he tenaciously clings to his lies to support his agenda of trying to put out there mis-information hoping to FOOL LDS member to win over a soul to live with him in Hell..for satan wants all to be miserable like unto himself..and these individauls like morpar are miserable souls.
January 31st, 2010 at 2:13 pm
[..YouTube..] @moparmonster1965
RE: becoming gods by grace
Is called the DOCTRINE of “deification” or THEOSIS as taught by EARLY CHRISTIANS..something morpar will not address and run away like a vampire who is presented with gralic..it scares him off because he knows it is the TRUTH..good repels evil.
January 31st, 2010 at 2:13 pm
[..YouTube..] @moparmonster1965
St. Irenaeus – “If the Word has been made man, it is so that men may be made gods” (Adv. Haer, V. Pref.)
St. Athanasius repeats the EXACT same thing in the 4th century word for word.
In the 5th century St. Cyril of Alexandria:
says we shall become sons by “participation” (methexis).
The DOCTRINE of (Theosis) or Deification was believed by MOST early christians and they point to MANY scriptures to support this belief both in the OTand NT
January 31st, 2010 at 7:32 pm
[..YouTube..] you may not have noticed but i havent mentioned the bible.
February 1st, 2010 at 2:13 pm
[..YouTube..] @imtherealthing
It shouldn’t have changed on iota as it’s supposed to be a “restoration of all things”. Remember?
Many truths of “the restoration” are now conveniently being filed away because they don’t jibe with the “mainstream christian” image the church is trying to sell. Just look at the latest Gospel Principles manual (Mormonism for dummies) as proof.
February 1st, 2010 at 2:18 pm
[..YouTube..] @dfwsunking
St. Irenaeus – “If the Word has been made man, it is so that men may be made gods” (Adv. Haer, V. Pref.)
St. Athanasius repeats the EXACT same thing in the 4th century word for word.
In the 5th century St. Cyril of Alexandria:
says we shall become sons by “participation” (methexis).
The DOCTRINE of (Theosis) or Deification was believed by MOST early christians and they point to MANY scriptures to support this belief both in the OTand NT
February 1st, 2010 at 2:29 pm
[..YouTube..] @imtherealthing
Yeah, but that’s not what Mormons today believe. According to fearless leader GBH, “I dont know that we teach it. I dont know that we emphasize it … I understand the philosophical background behind it, but I dont know a lot about it, and I dont think others know a lot about it.”
Add another embarrassing doctrine to the pile. The dumbing down of Mormonism…
February 1st, 2010 at 3:24 pm
[..YouTube..] lier smith
February 1st, 2010 at 3:28 pm
[..YouTube..] Mormon is a Handmade Book made by that guy smith , and he used all less Diverted bible t made it sound like its from good, but its not from god, God didn’t send any prophets after Mohamed, and no Bokks after Quran! s whom ever wanna hear know Quran and discover him self go on that site!! the truth is shown and the less truth not at all right is shown too…..
February 1st, 2010 at 3:54 pm
[..YouTube..] whoever wanna know the reality and think of it search on YouTube on the Video titled “The Concept Of God In Mormonism and Islam” its long but its worth it to watch it! God is One!
February 1st, 2010 at 3:59 pm
[..YouTube..] I doubt it. The Koran conflicts with the Book of Mormon on fundamental issues related to the nature of God. Whoever produced that video is probably very ignorant of both religions.
February 1st, 2010 at 4:01 pm
[..YouTube..] Your position and argument is the same Evangelical Christians say about both Mohammad and Joseph Smith, No more prophets, no more books.
Have you considered that God can say and do whatever He wants despite what some scholars might say?
February 1st, 2010 at 4:02 pm
[..YouTube..] dead men don’t lie
February 1st, 2010 at 4:03 pm
[..YouTube..] You are only half right. Had 6 of the apostles stayed in the church Brigham Young would have never become president of the Church.
February 1st, 2010 at 4:07 pm
[..YouTube..] no “Mormonism for dummies” is a book produced as part of the “dummies” series.
Also a lot of early Christian texts were hidden because they were considered too sacred for the general public. If You read Joshua for example it skips around. The first chapter written was probably 22. Evidence that a lot off books simply hidden or destroyed.
February 1st, 2010 at 4:09 pm
[..YouTube..] That is from Time Mag of summer of 97. Look at the context. Not something taught, not something emphasized. That isn’t to say that isn’t doctrine. Just not outwardly preached to the public. You are turning an honest statement into a lie.
February 1st, 2010 at 4:11 pm
[..YouTube..] Oh really? How about all the references to corn in the bible? It probably means some sort of grain, but not corn in the modern context. Otherwise the bible is outright lie.
February 1st, 2010 at 4:13 pm
[..YouTube..] That is like saying you don’t need a central government. You only need God. I’d love to see you argue that in a court of law.
February 1st, 2010 at 4:15 pm
[..YouTube..] Sure, and London England appears in the Harry Potter universe as well.
February 1st, 2010 at 4:17 pm
[..YouTube..] Stephen
February 1st, 2010 at 4:21 pm
[..YouTube..] I know. The Bible is full of problems mostly from being written 100’s of years after the fact. Sarah and Rebecca, Adam, Eve, even Moses might just be literary titles. Also 40 years, 40 days, 40 miles all just to an accident? Did nothing happen from 4K BC to 2KBC? It all happens in about 10 chapters in the Gen.
February 1st, 2010 at 4:23 pm
[..YouTube..] @Bureyeanne
The question was: Is this the teaching of the church today, that God the Father was once a man like we are?
Hinckley’s response: I dont know that we teach it. I dont know that we emphasize it. I havent heard it discussed for a long time in public discourse. I dont know. I dont know all the circumstances under which that statement was made. I understand the philosophical background behind it. But I dont know a lot about it and I dont know that others know a lot about it.
February 1st, 2010 at 4:26 pm
[..YouTube..] @Bureyeanne
Levitates? What exactly is a levitate and how do I become one. I’d love to be able to float.
You’re talking about something in Levitical law which Jesus did away with with the Messianic law. Were the 12 apostles all of the tribe of Levi? No! Did they get the priesthood? Yes. What does that tell you?
February 1st, 2010 at 4:26 pm
[..YouTube..] The AmazingAthiest calls Jesus the amazing Catering man. Who could supply and endless amount of fish, bread and wine. Insults aren’t going to change anyone’s opinion.
February 1st, 2010 at 4:27 pm
[..YouTube..] @dfwsunking
I mean to say Mosiac law but you get the point. Why did Joseph Smith give Elias Abel the priesthood if blacks weren’t supposed to have it yet?
February 1st, 2010 at 4:54 pm
[..YouTube..] @dfwsunking
Some Hindu sects believe in levitation. Go to India.
First, don’t be a pompous prick. Second, it means that the New Testament times are different than the Old Testament times. Even so back then God must have been a raciest by your rational to have only allowed those men related to Levi govern the temple.
February 1st, 2010 at 4:55 pm
[..YouTube..] @dfwsunking
That is because that doctrine is only found in one line, one verse of the Book of Mormon.
February 1st, 2010 at 5:03 pm
[..YouTube..] @Bureyeanne
It’s also found in the D&C Section 132, the King Follet Discourse (previously canonized scripture but later removed). Nice try. I can recall numerous lessons where this principle was taught so for Hinckley to say “I don’t know that we teach it” is a flat-out lie.
February 1st, 2010 at 6:49 pm
[..YouTube..] Wo, the King Follet sermon not discourse. It was at Mr. Follet’s funeral anyway not an official declaration or canonized scripture.
D&C 132 doesn’t mention the Pre-exalted state of God the Father. Even so, the reference to man is to say that those exalted will be above the angles in their ability to govern. It doesn’t say they progress past a need for God.
February 1st, 2010 at 11:03 pm
[..YouTube..] @dfwsunking
@datwitsucking
St. Irenaeus – “If the Word has been made man, it is so that men may be made gods” (Adv. Haer, V. Pref.)
St. Athanasius repeats the EXACT same thing in the 4th century word for word.
In the 5th century St. Cyril of Alexandria:
says we shall become sons by “participation” (methexis).
The DOCTRINE of (Theosis) or Deification was believed by MOST early christians and they point to MANY scriptures to support this belief both in the OTand NT
February 2nd, 2010 at 12:49 am
[..YouTube..] updated DNA evidence 2009
watch?v=zyhyxAtJw6I
February 2nd, 2010 at 12:51 am
[..YouTube..] @myeyepie
um..those links do not work..send me a pm
February 2nd, 2010 at 1:11 am
[..YouTube..] open a youtube vid any vid.
replace the portion at the end of the link with the following and it will take you to the vid.
watch?v=zyhyxAtJw6I
Hey man I have gotta say you are seriously prolific. your all over the anti’s on most any video I see. LOL you go bro!
February 2nd, 2010 at 1:43 am
[..YouTube..] @myeyepie
thanks
I will leave the rest of you to be the nice guys..while I play hard ball. I use to be one of those anti-mormons myself..so I understand their mentality..the only way to get through those THICK SKULLS is to bash them in.
February 2nd, 2010 at 7:45 am
[..YouTube..] @imtherealthing
As much as that doesn’t sound Christian it makes sense. In the case of evil (or those under the influence of evil) they only understand advance or retreat, ergo victory or failure with no in between. So in their case, turning the other cheek if you will, is retreat, weakness and failure. I think the gospel should be taught boldly, nobly and independent. We don’t love people into the gospel, we challenge them to except the gospel.
February 3rd, 2010 at 6:53 pm
[..YouTube..] Mormon is a person, and do you really think a FOURTEEN year old boy that is uneducated, wrote this amazing book? I think not!
February 3rd, 2010 at 6:55 pm
[..YouTube..] That God lived and walked the Earth is in the Bible…. Wow.
February 3rd, 2010 at 9:30 pm
[..YouTube..] Well, with the KJV as an example, Smith was able to construct the BOM with his vivid imagination, to which his mother testifies. Since we find so much of the New Testament in the BOM, how do you suppose it got there?
February 3rd, 2010 at 9:34 pm
[..YouTube..] And he hasn’t accomplished anything yet!
He claims to have once been an ‘anti-Mormon,’ but like everything else in Mormonism, there’s nothing to substantiate that either.
February 4th, 2010 at 12:56 pm
[..YouTube..] @JesusIsTheOnlyWay4U
ON ONENESS”
John 17: 11, 21-22
“And now I am no more in the world, but these are in the world, and I come to thee. Holy Father, keep through thine own name those whom thou hast given me, that THEY may be ONE, AS WE ARE.
That THEY “ALL” may be ONE; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be ONE IN US: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me.
And the glory which thou gavest me I have given them; that THEY MAY BE ONE, even as we are ONE
February 4th, 2010 at 12:59 pm
[..YouTube..] Schooling doesnt make you right. The Holy Spirit is beyond any formal education. All you need is the Bible. Since there is a possiblity that you pray in some one elses name, you might not have the Holy Spirit.
1 Corinthians 2:14 NIV
The man without the Spirit does not accept the things that come from the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him, and he cannot understand them, because they are spiritually discerned.
You are by far the most upset person on youtube.
February 4th, 2010 at 1:10 pm
[..YouTube..] I do read and understand this scripture. Jesus is talking about all believers.
February 4th, 2010 at 1:12 pm
[..YouTube..] @JesusIsTheOnlyWay4U
Hypocrite..take the BEAM out of thine own eye rather than the sliver I hold.
Upset?..upset at liars like yourself…what makes me laugh is that you mention the Holy Ghost and yet FAIL to listen to the Holy Ghost – because if you did…you would no longer adhere to the FALSE teachings of the TRINITY.
I was once an anti-mormon evangelical..I know your mind-set quite well. I know you have to convince yourself of your lies…when I finally humbled myself – I became LDS
February 4th, 2010 at 1:13 pm
[..YouTube..] @JesusIsTheOnlyWay4U
Col.2:8
Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.
February 4th, 2010 at 1:14 pm
[..YouTube..] @JesusIsTheOnlyWay4U
1 Pet. 5: 8
Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour:
February 4th, 2010 at 1:16 pm
[..YouTube..] @JesusIsTheOnlyWay4U
Acts 7:51-53
Ye STIFFNECKED and uncircumcised IN HEART and EARS, YE DO ALWAYS RESIST the HOLY GHOST: as your fathers did, SO DO YE.
Which of the PROPHETS have not your fathers PERSECUTED and they have slain them which shewed before of the coming of the Just One; of whom ye have been now the betrayers and murderers:
Who have RECIEVED the law BY THE DISPOSTION OF ANGELS, and have NOT KEPT IT
February 4th, 2010 at 1:16 pm
[..YouTube..] @JesusIsTheOnlyWay4U
Acts 7:54
When they heard these things, they were cut to the heart, and they gnashed on him with their teeth.
February 4th, 2010 at 1:17 pm
[..YouTube..] @JesusIsTheOnlyWay4U
John 17:3
And this is LIFE ETERNAL, that THEY might KNOW THEE the ONLY TRUE GOD, and Jesus Christ, whom THOU HAST SENT.
February 4th, 2010 at 1:17 pm
[..YouTube..] @JesusIsTheOnlyWay4U
Ever think that your Hellenized god could be just that..a god made up by wicked men to destroy people’s faith in the TRUE GOD..as we learn..it is LIFE ETERNAL to know who GOD “&” Jesus Christ is..God is not supposed to be a mystery like you trinitarians teach…
February 4th, 2010 at 1:18 pm
[..YouTube..] @JesusIsTheOnlyWay4U
Matt. 16: 4
A “WICKED” and “ADULTEROUS” generation “SEEKETH AFTER A SIGN”; and there shall no sign be given unto it, …”.
February 4th, 2010 at 1:22 pm
[..YouTube..] John 14:20 On that day you will realize that I am in my Father, and you are in me, and I am in you.
Breakdown…
When we stand before him, I will realize that Jesus and the Father are one, my sins have been coverd by Jesus, and His Spirit is in me, and the Spirit is him. This verse shows the three in one.
February 4th, 2010 at 1:23 pm
[..YouTube..] this scripture would be a good one for Joseph Smith.
February 4th, 2010 at 1:25 pm
[..YouTube..] he has redeemed your soul. are you trusting in him only?
February 4th, 2010 at 1:41 pm
[..YouTube..] @JesusIsTheOnlyWay4U
2 Nephi 33:6
I glory in plainness; I glory in truth; I glory in my Jesus, for he hath redeemed my soul from hell.
February 4th, 2010 at 1:48 pm
[..YouTube..] Jesus Christ, as it is written in the Bible, did die for your sin.
February 4th, 2010 at 1:49 pm
[..YouTube..] do you have any opinions on 3 in 1 with this verse???
February 4th, 2010 at 1:56 pm
[..YouTube..] @JesusIsTheOnlyWay4U
RE: Jesus died for my sins
No kidding?..
oh please..give it up…that is CENTRAL to our faith..which is “THE FAITH” Christ preached…your nicene jesus who is part of a 3-headed god teaches all one has to do is believe and you are saved…not the GOSPEL Christ taught and lead by EXAMPLE..one needs to have faith in him and REPENT and be baptized and recieve the HOly ghost by hte laying on of hands..all of which we do.
February 4th, 2010 at 1:58 pm
[..YouTube..] @JesusIsTheOnlyWay4U
Jesus said “If ye love me, keep my commandments” John 14:15
Now if he meant just believe in him..it would have read:
“If ye love me, just believe in me” – unfortunately it DOESN’T – you FALSE christians do not understand the GOSPEL (good news) – he not only died for us to save us, but he also set the EXAMPLE for us to follow in WORD and “DEED”..something I did not nor do I see today in your false christianity
February 4th, 2010 at 2:08 pm
[..YouTube..] John 3:5 Jesus answered, “I tell you the truth, no one can enter the kingdom of God unless he is born of water *AND* the Spirit.
6.Flesh gives birth to flesh (natural birth/ breaking of the water), but the Spirit gives birth to spirit (accepting the holy spirit).
February 4th, 2010 at 2:28 pm
[..YouTube..] @JesusIsTheOnlyWay4U
You are not telling me anything that I already know. Are you going to answer my questions I posed to you or not?
February 4th, 2010 at 2:53 pm
[..YouTube..] Matthew 22:36-40 “Teacher, which is the great commandment in the Law?” And He said to him, “‘You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your mind.’ “This is the great and foremost commandment. “The second is like it, ‘You shall love your neighbor as yourself.’ “On these two commandments depend the whole Law and the Prophets.”
February 4th, 2010 at 3:00 pm
[..YouTube..] Im not disagreeing with you at all that we should do good works and do our best to keep the commandments. What im saying is they all mean nothing for salvation without Jesus. One that has the Spirit should bear fruit. There may be a period of time where there is no fruit, but at some point works will be shown. However, no amount of works will ever merit our entrance into heaven. Its only through Jesus Christ that we can enter.
February 4th, 2010 at 6:58 pm
[..YouTube..] @JesusIsTheOnlyWay4U
No kidding..we LDS know that it is through the GRACE of Christ. But we also recognize that we also need to do our best…Christ’s atonement fills the gap between our best and our failure.
February 5th, 2010 at 3:57 pm
[..YouTube..] That is your rational against the Book of Mormon?
The Book of Mormon is a story of Isrealites.
You really should try a little harder.
February 5th, 2010 at 3:59 pm
[..YouTube..] Ennt. Thanks for playing. We have some fine parting gifts for you.
In late in the Bible (and I can get you exact references if you need) new Apostles are called as early Apostles are killed. Thus making more than 12 apostles.
February 6th, 2010 at 2:50 am
[..YouTube..] Mormons are not Christians. They believe in a perverted view of the true biblical Jesus. There have NOT been any prophets after Jesus. Brigham Young and Joseph Smith are nothing more than perverted, polygamistic people who felt it was their Divine Right to rewrite the word of the one, true BIBLICAL God. I hope you realize that they are burning in Hell right now. Being tortured by jesus’s ” spirit brother”. Your book is a fraud and your religion is based on two whackjobs’ opinions of God.
February 6th, 2010 at 2:50 am
[..YouTube..] Joseph smith is infact a liar
February 6th, 2010 at 11:38 pm
[..YouTube..] @olverafam
How is someone a factual liar?
February 7th, 2010 at 5:15 pm
[..YouTube..] you guys calm down and think for a sec, i might seemed so offending down there on me saying straight up to you guys that j.Smith wasn’t a prophet r even god had send him to guide people to reality, but think about it for a sec, how many kinds of christens now a day, so many right?, some believe on trinity and other not only Jesus and every and each having their own sense to make people believe on the church, but when Christianity came down to prophet Jesus (PBUH) it came down one book, one bible
February 7th, 2010 at 5:18 pm
[..YouTube..] not a diverted bible , each are different from others,
and after Jesus died the followers changed on both bible and what Jesus said to them, so 600 after Christianity god send the warning to the world, the light the holly book of Quran, to show all of those who dont believe on god at all the reality of god, and to show the people of the holy book what they had changed and lied about god, some said in the past that all christens are sons of god and god is there father
February 7th, 2010 at 5:19 pm
[..YouTube..] and the jaws said on the past we are the most loved people from god both wishing to go to heaven so easily by what they said, then after Islam Came with the holly book of Quran j.Smith came after Islam with 1200 years saying that god send to him, so why god didnt speak about Quran? How it makes sense that god wont be speaking about his last messenger 1200 years ago which was Mohamed (PBUH)??
February 7th, 2010 at 5:21 pm
[..YouTube..] People there is only one god, Mohamed(PBUH) was his Messenger after Jesus(PBUH) both loved prophets and servants of god! And think about what if all you guys believe on is just some body lie who made it up and then it took so many people away from the reality of god! Islam dont ask people to do anything bad or anything wrong its just make all human believing that god is one perfect god cant be having sons or daughters
February 7th, 2010 at 5:26 pm
[..YouTube..] and we are all his slaves and he will mercy whomever he want to and he will put in hell whomever he wants to, whoever believe on what im telling and really got to know about what Islam ask people for, holly book of Quran since 1400 years ago its same book, if you got one from any place of the world then you got other from other country they will be both same all are same no change not ever dot missing, im caring about each of you, im offending or attacking more than inviting and advising!
February 7th, 2010 at 5:28 pm
[..YouTube..] * im NOT offending or attacking more than inviting and advising!
February 7th, 2010 at 5:38 pm
[..YouTube..] btw Prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him, said,”The Last Day will not come until ISLAM has entered into every home on earth.”Today ISLAM is the world’s fastest growing religion – Even after Sept. 11, 2001.
February 7th, 2010 at 7:58 pm
[..YouTube..] @medomedoMAN
There are dozens of different versions of Islam as well.
February 8th, 2010 at 7:50 am
[..YouTube..] My friend, Im speaking about the holly book itself and that make the believe of the followers of that holly book, but still people can do it different ways, like Quran is one book for all whatever versions of Muslims you know, i believe that the suiny Muslims are the most near to real rolls of Islam, but the idea is to be on the right way of thinking of god as he is, not so far from the reality of god himself! And living in hope! Think about what I wrote down there for a sec!
February 8th, 2010 at 2:46 pm
[..YouTube..] Joseph Smith was a true prophet of God, and Mohammed wasn’t half the man Joseph was.
February 8th, 2010 at 2:48 pm
[..YouTube..] Joseph Smith was the MAN. He was courageous, bold, teachable, and willing to do all the Lord asked, no matter how hard. I look forward to meeting him, and gladly praise his name, as does Jesus Christ himself.
FAIRLDSdotORG
for the truth
February 8th, 2010 at 2:51 pm
[..YouTube..] @medomedoMAN
I am sorry my friend but Islam is not of God. I believe it is of Satan. we see by the fruits – or the actions of many Muslims in the world the evil Islam brings. Look at your countries – most are poor and most are ignorant. Look at Christian nations and see the differance. Jesus Christ is the Son of God – Mohammad may have had the truth at one time, but his followers corrupted the Qu’ran (changed it). Many versions of the Qu’ran existed but later were destroyed – that is history
February 8th, 2010 at 5:21 pm
[..YouTube..] @imtherealthing
Maybe so, but consider there are various different Muslim groups. Some far more radical than others. I’d hate to be lumped into the Westboro Baptist Church for example.
February 9th, 2010 at 1:59 pm
[..YouTube..] @medomedoMAN
Yes actually I agree somewhat. There is overwhelming evidence of scripture burning and out right selection of books in Bible. Several dozen books quoted but not found there in.
Of course my perspective is that shows the need for the Book of Mormon.
February 9th, 2010 at 2:30 pm
[..YouTube..] @Bureyeanne
Jesus prophesied of a falling away JS didn’t. furthermore, according to JS, he trumps Jesus.
“I have more to boast of than ever any man had. I am the only man that has ever been able to keep a whole church together since the days of Adam. A large majority of the whole have stood by me. Neither Paul, John, Peter, nor Jesus ever did it. I boast that no man ever did such a work as I. The followers of Jesus ran away from Him; but the Latter-day Saints never ran away from me yet.”
February 9th, 2010 at 4:44 pm
[..YouTube..] Where is your reference of this so called quote? I don’t believe a single line of the above. It isn’t valid for a multiple reasons. For one there were a lot of people that left the church early on. It simply isn’t a claim Joseph Smith could have made. My bet is someone down the line was, “lying for God”. Back in the time of Sam Clements aka Mark Twain, it was very common to simply fabricate a story mixing truth with fiction. EX: Newspapers made money, so why did they care if the story was true?
February 9th, 2010 at 4:50 pm
[..YouTube..] @Bureyeanne
(History of the Church, Vol. 6, p. 408-409)
It’s not fiction.
February 9th, 2010 at 5:11 pm
[..YouTube..] well thats not True my friend Allah is the God, Mohamed is His slave, his messenger, Just like Jesus, btw that son of god thing doesnt make sense at all (will explain).other thing of god changes doesnt make sense too man, god needn’t to be more greater or enlargement , god created you&me, he knows Everything, he own everything, he gave you everything, how come he gave you that intelligent Mind you have , and then you think of him that way of being in Increasing speed!?
February 9th, 2010 at 5:15 pm
[..YouTube..] About Jesus part I will tell you something,if god will want to send a son as you believe and christens believe. why he didnt send that son the 1st he created n earth as to make that son take sins of all the humans who came after him?but as Quran explained the same way of Jesus(PBUH) is Adam(PBUH), god created him out of nothing just god said to him “Be”he become,then evi she came out from a father and no mother like she came out from the lift rip of Adam,why Adam isnt the son of god then?
February 9th, 2010 at 5:27 pm
[..YouTube..] Unlike the rest of Christianity, the LDS believe that Adam was a prophet. He was second only to Jesus in Heaven before the creation of the world. So in essence God sent Adam first to establish the law. However people are imperfect thus the need for a savior. In addition each generation has had some sort of falling way and need for a restoration through various prophets.
February 9th, 2010 at 5:29 pm
[..YouTube..] see Bureyeanne, there soooo many things Invented everywhere, and truth me you will hear more and more by the time. some Mormon believe that there is a prophet in Utah now a days,but i think the guy is working on making a god book still! It will come out one day!
Oh All People as Quran say do argue a lot,why dont we all ignore all of that and just pray for one god who created all of us, with no caring of any others whomever they are,God only will help us, no other HUMANS can,Mercy of Allah/God
February 9th, 2010 at 5:37 pm
[..YouTube..] @dfwsunking
Bud, I have very book 3 inches away. It says nothing like that on those pages.
February 9th, 2010 at 5:39 pm
[..YouTube..] i did watch it all My friend, and i read so many books of that topics too, there is one vide like 2:30 hours of it all, i watched it, but Honestly don’t you think that Dr peterson.(i remember that was his name) wasn’t giving much evidence about the believe than just the believe itself! comparing to shyl Aly? whats yoyur comment on that VIdeo?
February 9th, 2010 at 5:45 pm
[..YouTube..] @medomedoMAN
Dr. Peterson is an LDS scholar but not an official representative of the church. It seems that although you might cringe, there is more similar then there is different.
February 9th, 2010 at 5:48 pm
[..YouTube..] @medomedoMAN
Even so matters of faith can not be proven by virtue of argument and reason alone. Spiritual matters are conformed spiritually. Proof is a funny thing to the nonbeliever. Moses for example called upon God for various heavenly interventions that were dismissed.
February 9th, 2010 at 5:51 pm
[..YouTube..] @Bureyeanne
Really? What does it say then?
February 9th, 2010 at 5:52 pm
[..YouTube..] that make sense to you?? why the son isn’t the 1st one ever tho so he be mercy for all Human?? and what about the people btw the time of Jesus and Adam? (considering as you say that Jesus is son but he isn’t)?
February 9th, 2010 at 6:02 pm
[..YouTube..] @dfwsunking
Bud I just searched all references to Joseph Smith and Boast, in all known records of Joseph Smith Jr., Joseph Smith Sr, and Joseph F. Smith. At best I could find an off the cuff remark about being able to beat any man in Illinois at stick pulling.
Consider however, that I found 2-3 quotes about condemning boasting in any form unless it was boasting of our God.
In short that so called quote you have is an outright lie.
February 9th, 2010 at 6:05 pm
[..YouTube..] @Bureyeanne
You said you have Vol. 6 of the History of the Church in front of you. Now you’re claiming you looked online. Where exactly did you search? Let me guess? Lds . org? Like they’re going to advertise it…
February 9th, 2010 at 6:08 pm
[..YouTube..] @dfwsunking
Those pages are referring to a speeches by ex-senator Kerns believed to be written by Senator Frank J. Cannon 1905 called, “In defense of the faith and the saints”
February 9th, 2010 at 6:15 pm
[..YouTube..] @dfwsunking
So now you are making a censorship claim? If so then how do you know your so called quote is valid?
February 9th, 2010 at 6:21 pm
[..YouTube..] @dfwsunking
NEITHER IS THE BOOK OF MORMON: ANOTHER TESTAMENT OF JESUS CHRIST.
February 9th, 2010 at 9:10 pm
[..YouTube..] Can you take that one chance and get to know about Islam itself and then you will look at things with different eyes.Go on that site ,”whyislam,org”..Faith and believe as has to be proved, people don’t believe on things blindly thats why i studied religions and i end up Muslim, Thank
February 9th, 2010 at 9:11 pm
[..YouTube..] *Thank Allah for that! When you asked a Question about your religion and you dont have true evidence about what you say from where ever then you should know that you need to know about others! Please take that chance just read what things on the site you wont going to lose anything!
February 9th, 2010 at 9:18 pm
[..YouTube..] Spiritual matters are conformed spiritually.
We have proof such as golden plates found in Turkey in 1945 over 100 years after the death of Joseph Smith as just one example. However such doesn’t line up people to join. Proof can only come from God to an individual.
February 9th, 2010 at 9:26 pm
[..YouTube..] Prophet Mohamed send to people 1st with Islam but America wasn’t discovered on that time so Mohamed (PBUH) message didn’t go there, then here he come Smith came out on 1800z saying god send to him, but by looking at both religions we will find that is one religion but coped by smith and christened by the bible believe of Jesus son of god and also same way kinda of similarity of the story that smith made to make it look like Prophet Mohamed! lats look together on the religions common!
February 9th, 2010 at 9:27 pm
[..YouTube..] -Both claim to have been restored
-Both were restored through a prophet
-The prophet wanted to know the true religion
-An angel visited the Prophet to start his mission
-Both prophets brought forth holy books by divine power
-Latter day saints have in their canon, The book of abraham, and of moses, and says of them being translated from scrolls. Islam recognizes such scripture, the Suhuf.
February 9th, 2010 at 9:29 pm
[..YouTube..] -Both were given a god given directive to emigrate due to violence
-both included practicing polygamy
-both were poorly educated
-both new holy books were the most correct of any book.
-both claim previous scripture as corrupted and unreliable
-both had a succession crisis
so baisecly Mormons are Muslis just if they belive on that GOD IS ONE and we are all his Humans/ slaves not sons..????
February 10th, 2010 at 7:34 am
[..YouTube..] i believe that Turkey is a Muslims Country , why such a plates will be found there Mr?! how that can be where smith lived his life in the US?
February 10th, 2010 at 2:35 pm
[..YouTube..] EXACTLY! Thus the Book of Mormon must be true.
According to the Book of Mormon a small group of people left from probably the southern part of what is now Oman, or Yemen. When them they took the records of prophets with them printed on Brass plates. They recorded their writings on Gold plates. No one had ever heard of anything printed on gold pages until the discovery of a couple of books in the middle east. Partly validating Joseph Smith’s “wild claims”. Yet the proof isn’t enough for people.
February 10th, 2010 at 4:11 pm
[..YouTube..] I smell bullshit!!!!
February 10th, 2010 at 9:05 pm
[..YouTube..] The fact is, that by the power of God I translated the Book of Mormon from hieroglyphics, the knowledge of which was lost to the world, in which wonderful event I stood alone, an unlearned youth, to combat the worldly wisdom and multiplied ignorance of eighteen centuries, with a new revelation, which would open the eyes of [the world], and make plain the old paths, wherein if a man walk in all the ordinances of God blameless, he shall inherit eternal life.
-Prophet Joseph Smith
February 10th, 2010 at 10:33 pm
[..YouTube..] DNA Analisys Show That American Natives Came From Asia,Not Israel.What About That ?….
February 10th, 2010 at 11:57 pm
[..YouTube..] The Circle of Ancient Iranian Studies have found other gold plates. Imagine that.
“An Achaemenid Golden Codex Recovered from Smugglers”. From CAIS ARCHAEOLOGICAL & CULTURAL NEWS
February 11th, 2010 at 12:29 am
[..YouTube..] interesting!
February 11th, 2010 at 12:50 am
[..YouTube..] @ Macedon2010. From a genetic perspective the DNA argument is very weak at best.
I am personally glad it is a “hang up” for those that kick against the pricks because it exposes those who are continually looking for a “nail in the coffin” argument to reassure their personal weak foundation.
For honest truth seekers always are led to the truth which includes the Book of Mormon and the insincere/ignorant continue to spew their same old regurgitation.
February 11th, 2010 at 12:52 am
[..YouTube..] In addition, man-made science has fatal shortcomings like carbon dating that rely on “constants”.
There is no study that tested Nephi’s DNA with a contemporary Native American. If there was such a genetic study it would have to show the population is in a Hardy-Weinberg equilibrium. Five “continued constants” that cannot be changed over time.
February 11th, 2010 at 12:54 am
[..YouTube..] Even anti-Mormons or people that are anti-Mormonism realize the Book of Mormon populations are definitely not in a Hardy-Weinberg equilibrium.
The truth remains. The Book of Mormon is the word of God and Joseph Smith was a prophet.
I hope and pray you discover that truth for yourself instead of waiting to be taught it in the Spirit world.
February 11th, 2010 at 2:37 am
[..YouTube..] Fascinating. Such is very good to know. Plus it smashes the idea that just because something has yet to be discovered means it ceases to exist.
I caution, 10,000 people walked out on Jesus Christ. 5000 of which were fed loaves and fishes the previous day. Proof isn’t enough for people. In the end the only proof is the Holy Ghost to one open to receive Him.
February 11th, 2010 at 10:54 am
[..YouTube..] The Maya people were advanced in knowledge. Not all people came across the land connect in Siberia.
Michael D. Coe noted in his text ‘The MAYA Volume VI” says this “The Siberian land connect isn’t the issue, they must have used maritime routes.”
In other words came over by boat just like Lehi and Nephi claimed. They have also found DNA that is not indiginous to asia down in central america.
February 11th, 2010 at 1:27 pm
[..YouTube..] Strange, I thought he used a hat with a seer stone.
February 11th, 2010 at 1:36 pm
[..YouTube..] The seer stone did NOT work unless Joseph was in tune with the spirit. Only when Joseph sought to glorify the works of God did the work on the translation continue.
February 11th, 2010 at 3:40 pm
[..YouTube..] @LDSapologist71
He also only used the seer stone for a short while.
February 11th, 2010 at 3:48 pm
[..YouTube..] I use pages of book of mormon as toilet paper btw….
February 11th, 2010 at 4:00 pm
[..YouTube..] Right, and you are so sure that you don’t fit into that group. Have you considered that anyone can use that scripture?
February 11th, 2010 at 6:19 pm
[..YouTube..] @supermonkey100
Big deal you feel that way about every religion. Why waist your time on this video or any other religious video for that matter?
February 11th, 2010 at 6:20 pm
[..YouTube..] @tnfellow
right, and no one else could just as easy use the same scripture pointed at you?
February 12th, 2010 at 6:16 am
[..YouTube..] man you are a sick mind, that all j smith thing is a copy from prophet Mohamed and Quran thats why he didn’t mention a word a about the book of Quran, and as long as he took the rolls of god which was in Quran there religion have to make sense even its a copy of the rolls of Quran, you can’t see that yet my friend. and no body will see that ex thse who god open there minds and seee with there eyes!
February 12th, 2010 at 8:18 am
[..YouTube..] Mohammed wasn’t a true prophet, and he never even once communed with Jehovah! Unlike true prophets like Isaiah, Jeremiah, Daniel and Moses all spoke to God Face to face. Joseph Smith got his answers from God and was called to be a prophet.
Mohammed got all information from some spirit claiming to be gabriel. Go figure Mohammed was decieved.
February 12th, 2010 at 2:26 pm
[..YouTube..] I now know where you stand on that issue. I hope that still means Islam can leads you to follow “the religion of peace”.
February 13th, 2010 at 3:59 pm
[..YouTube..] Does your favorite video “Are Atheists the Intelligentsia Among Us? teach you how to do this?
Or was this brilliance taught to you in your “Sexy body massage” video with the description “A hot boy gets massaged by another man”.?
Homosexuality is an abomination so of course you are going to be upset against the Church who sees the gay mafia as a bunch of whiners forcing their lifestyle on a society who is disgusted by it!.
Continue your Godless ways. You have that right.
February 13th, 2010 at 4:02 pm
[..YouTube..] Of course you do feces.
February 13th, 2010 at 4:35 pm
[..YouTube..] Galatians 1:7 says “Even if we or a messenger out of heaven may proclaim good news to you which is different from what we did proclaim to you – let him be anathema!”
Satan has his own gospel(s), and tries to distort, dilute and destroy the true gospel of Jesus Christ in any way possible – while introducing new revelation(s) for leading men and women toward vanity and falsehood. The Qur’an and Book of Mormon are good examples of satanic texts which have deceived unwary souls.
February 14th, 2010 at 1:08 pm
[..YouTube..] @ Sennuba you are a walking contradiction.
In the About Me: section in your profile you state: “Most of all, I read religious scriptures: The Bible, The Book of Mormon, and The Qur’an”
Are they “religious scriptures” or as you now say, “satanic texts”?
The Book of Mormon and Bible are the word of God. End of story.
February 14th, 2010 at 7:16 pm
[..YouTube..] nothing can ever prove the book of mormon to be a con. It is too grand of a work, too strong, and too meaningful to be a work of fiction in itself. Despite my education I could never have the ability to sit and write such a book, even with resources such as the internet, libraries, and modern literature skills. So how could a 19th century farmboy with no resources as such?
ANYONE WHO THINKS A 19TH CENTURY FARMBOY COULD FABRICATRE A GRAND BOOK THAT HAS LEAD MILLIONS TO FOLLOW IT, IS AN IDIOT!
February 14th, 2010 at 7:16 pm
[..YouTube..] Absolutely on point, Mormons are being deceived, you mean well we are not attacking you, but we are attacking the false scriptures that you believe. Look into any examination of the original Mormon texts.
February 14th, 2010 at 7:44 pm
[..YouTube..] @footballheath20
It is an oxymoron to call them false scriptures.
There was one translation from reformed Egyptian and English and grammar corrections.
The only examination needed is to actually read the Book of Mormon and pray about it.
February 14th, 2010 at 8:25 pm
[..YouTube..] If our church isn’t true, then no christian church truly is true, why?
Because like it or not a great apostasy did exist. Aside from that of the new testament a ridiclous amount of “christian” doctrine was derived from roman and greek beliefs and creeds that were not of god, and roman persecution did wreck the early churches, and distort them. It really happened, things like the trinity, original sin, etc, are utter garbage. Meaning if we are not true, christianity isn’t real…
February 14th, 2010 at 10:16 pm
[..YouTube..] Ice Castles help family pay for LDS missions
February 14th, 2010 at 10:16 pm
[..YouTube..] MIDWAY, Utah — Brent Christensen is using ice and magic to pay for his two sons’ Mormon missions.
In addition, he’s created something artistically unique — castles made of icicles large enough to walk through.
They’re currently on display at the Zermatt Resort in Midway, 18 castles made entirely of frozen water.
February 14th, 2010 at 10:17 pm
[..YouTube..] One of the castle towers reaches up 40 feet. After sunset, they are lit, illuminating the natural colors of the ice.
February 14th, 2010 at 10:17 pm
[..YouTube..] “This is something we started when we lived in Alpine,” said Linda Christensen, “We had two missionaries out at once and we have six kids. To pay for their missions, we rented our house, moved to Pleasant Grove to an old, old 1900’s house across from the junior high where we could live for nothing.”
February 14th, 2010 at 10:20 pm
[..YouTube..] A Foundation of Faith
If we do not have a deep foundation of faith and a solid testimony of truth, we may have difficulty withstanding the harsh storms and icy winds of adversity which inevitably come to each of us.
February 15th, 2010 at 1:24 am
[..YouTube..] @amfiringmahlazer
Absolutely. People over the ages have just assumed the cross was the cross of Jesus. it is actually the sun burst of Horis.
February 15th, 2010 at 9:53 am
[..YouTube..] I don’t see how GBLT activists campaigning for equal rights really affects anyone else in society. I’ve yet to hear a viewpoint against equality for GLBT people that wasn’t extremely flimsy in reasoning at best. What? It might affect the policy making abilities of religious adoption agencies and wedding photographers?? Please.. That’s just grasping at straws.
February 15th, 2010 at 9:53 am
[..YouTube..] And why did you assert society as a whole views GLBT people the way you do? The popular vote in california for example in regards to proposition 8, was nearly 50/50. I look forward to the day bigots like yourself become the new minority.
February 15th, 2010 at 10:56 pm
[..YouTube..] Lets not distort the truth. You have equal rights and it is a slap in the face to African Americans to compare the gay mafia movement to the civil rights movement.
Ad populum doesn’t make homosexuality right because it will always be an abomination to God. End of story.
February 16th, 2010 at 4:59 pm
[..YouTube..] Assuming you’re a genuine adherent of those views, you’re an idiot, end of story.
February 16th, 2010 at 8:16 pm
[..YouTube..] Doug Cutler
at it again, name caller. Doug I think your problem is your UGLY ,have no friends and spend your time defending a bull shit church.
DON”T LISTEN TO THIS GUY HE HAS ISSUES.
February 17th, 2010 at 12:42 am
[..YouTube..] Look in the mirror, idiot, end of story.
February 17th, 2010 at 12:43 am
[..YouTube..] Exo 19:5-6
5 Now therefore, if ye will obey my voice indeed, and keep my covenant, then ye shall be a peculiar treasure unto me above all people: for all the earth is mine;
6 And ye shall be unto me a kingdom of priests, and an holy nation. These are the words which thou shalt speak unto the children of Israel.
February 17th, 2010 at 2:09 am
[..YouTube..] Not every effort to help and heal the Haitians by our medical team was dramatic—but some are. Dr. Dirk Noyes, a cancer surgeon, member of our team, and a friend to the Latter-day Saints, is a veteran of these sorts of rescue missions
February 17th, 2010 at 2:10 am
[..YouTube..] Several times, he has gone to the scene of natural disasters through Project Hope and worked on hospital ships like the Mercy.
February 17th, 2010 at 2:10 am
[..YouTube..] In Haiti, he saved three lives in one day, thanks to his practiced medical eye. He walked into a hospital unit with former Haitian missionary Willow Walsh-Hughes as translator, and saw three who were dying from various intra-abdominal catastrophes if they didnt get immediately to surgery.
February 17th, 2010 at 11:45 am
[..YouTube..] We don’t take issue with the human side of your GBLT community, SM. It’s that awful agenda you keep parading that has us up in arms. Marriage is between man and woman. It’s right morally, it’s right spiritually, and it’s right logically. The proper question you should be asking yourself is, “I’ve yet to hear a viewpoint that makes gay marriage, logical.”
February 17th, 2010 at 1:26 pm
[..YouTube..] Yes, the gays are maliciously conspiring to secure their rights in everyone’s faces. You don’t really have feet to stand on when you use the words morally and logically. There’s nothing moral or logical about denying two consenting adults that are in love the right to have their relationship legally recognized, even if it were the majority of people who were denying it. Spiritually? Explain what’s logical to me about belief in resurrection, fairy tale creation stories, spirits, eternal life,ect?
February 17th, 2010 at 8:38 pm
[..YouTube..] Again, with the “securing their rights”, you have them so stop comparing the gay mafia movement to the Civil Rights Movement.
Why don’t you just admit that you are a homosexual instead of saying “their” or “they”.
Your video on your profile “Sexy body massage” with the description “A hot boy gets massaged by another man” gave that away.
I also wouldn’t be preaching about morals while denying the existence of God and that homosexuality is an abomination that decays our society.
February 17th, 2010 at 10:21 pm
[..YouTube..] this is the most stupid fucked up religon in the history of all mankind…scientology makes more sense than it……and i really dont understand why the hell anyone could believe this bullshit written by some fuckin faggot reading out of a hat …..mormons are u all reatards or do u actually buy into this stupid bullshit ..please help me out …….or is it more of a family and social thing that u have to believe …idk how do u believe this shit try and explain it to me mormonism = retards
February 18th, 2010 at 4:53 am
[..YouTube..] I may be gay but that’s just one aspect of who I am, it really reflects negatively on your cognitive capacity that you define people wholly by their sexuality. You probably think that my sexuality automatically invalidates my arguments. Oh no, I favorited a video where a guy gets a “same-sex massage”, how aberrant and offensive! I strongly believe you can be moral and a good person without investing in a bogus set of baseless religious beliefs that seem to me to be as credible as Santa.
February 18th, 2010 at 5:17 am
[..YouTube..] And the gay rights movement isn’t a “mafia”, nor do we have full equality in most countries around the globe. Your personal disgust with gay people and what they do in bed with their partners doesn’t mean that it is an abomination. As well as the man-made scriptures you use to justify that position. Yes, I reject creationism, because I believe it has no place in modern society. Has homosexuality ever led to the deaths of straight people? No. Does religion get scores of people killed? Yes.
February 18th, 2010 at 9:14 am
[..YouTube..] Jesus was the Son of God just as he said that we are sons of God. Why? Because scripture teaches us the God is the Father of spirits!!!! Do we have spirits? Yes! Does Jesus have a spirit? Yes! Is Satan a spirit? Yes, sorry about that but he is also a spirit. He was a spirit in heaven with all the spirits, or sons and daughters of God, and was cast out by his rebellious actions (Rev 12:12-15). It is Biblical.
February 18th, 2010 at 11:59 am
[..YouTube..] @DrCaustic: “The proper question you should be asking yourself is, ‘I’ve yet to hear a viewpoint that makes gay marriage, logical.’”
– Well of course that’s not a question, DrC, is it? It’s a statement of your opinion. The fact that you cannot distinguish between the two should be a clue to any reader about the dogmatic place you’re coming from.
It’s the same place the Mormons come from when they say “Our way is the right way and we’re going to force all our neighbors to obey it.”
February 18th, 2010 at 12:30 pm
[..YouTube..] @supermonkey100 –If it’s just one aspect of who you are then why do you keep throwing it every ones face. That is the problem no one wants to know about.
February 18th, 2010 at 3:10 pm
[..YouTube..] @wtalady–Well no, that’s not correct. I don’t feel the need to tell everyone I’m gay. But if you voice an opinion I disagree with, especially in regards to GLBT issues, I will probably confront you with my own opinions.
February 19th, 2010 at 12:32 pm
[..YouTube..] Most religions are the only thing that is holding this country together now and keeping it from eroding further than it has. Surely you have seen the difference.where God was taken out of schools, families and government we have been taken over by a nasty self centered population where greed, immoral behavior, murder etc are common place. Where children run the streets in gangs and nothing is scared, They deface our country,the flag and anything else they can get their hands on.
February 19th, 2010 at 12:55 pm
[..YouTube..] Children raised in a faith generally become better adults. They have a stronger foundations and are more considerate of their obligations in society. They know why they are here and where they are going, that is the best way I can put it. I believe families can be together forever and we were put here to make choices to grow and become the best we can be.
February 19th, 2010 at 3:11 pm
[..YouTube..] No, the gays are maliciously conspiring to press an issue that they had no right to secure in the first place. I have both feet to stand on. I know you heathens hate to hear this, but most American Citizens still adhere to basic Christian concepts. what you are fighting for is wrong. That’s why you are meeting such great resistance. Most of you are like 4 year old children. You don’t understand the implications of your selfishness, and now you’re throwing a tantrum.
February 19th, 2010 at 3:14 pm
[..YouTube..] And I reject Evolution because you still haven’t proven that mindless forces created man. Really, the notion that primordial goo created a remarkable thing like a human being, is much stupider than a greater intellect creating a lesser intellect.
February 19th, 2010 at 10:46 pm
[..YouTube..] @DrCaustic I disagree, because evolution actually has something called “evidence” to support it. All you have is the scribblings of some archaic fool. I think any group of people that are denied basic civil rights have the right to campaign for social change. Saying we’re childish, selfish, we have no right to, and that we’re throwing a tantrum really only amounts to you talking out of your ass…
February 19th, 2010 at 10:53 pm
[..YouTube..] @wtalady You think the islamists who obliterated the world trade center is an example of holding society together? How can you honestly believe that religion does anything positive for society? People use it as a justification for social inequality, murder, hatred, ect. Children raised in faith become suicide bombers, lol. Your baseless arguments are catastrophically stupid.
February 19th, 2010 at 11:06 pm
[..YouTube..] I know that my Redeemer lives. I know that Joseph Smith was a prophet and he was called of God.
February 20th, 2010 at 11:47 am
[..YouTube..] @supermonkey100 You know I disagree. Produce the evidence. Shut up about scribblings and archaic fools, and show mr the evidence. Sorry, pal. Gay marriage is not a civil right. That’s why you’re losing in most U.S. states. Stop being childish and repent of your ways.
February 20th, 2010 at 3:53 pm
[..YouTube..] Mormonism is the avante-garde religion of the world.
Joseph Smith was uneducated and ignorant to things of the world. He was chosen to bring forth the Book Of Mormon.
Read it. Embrace it. Study it. It will make you smarter. It will open your eyes.
Think about church history conceptually. A flock traversing across the United States led to the west to the mountains of Utah. Its awesome and poetic.
February 20th, 2010 at 7:40 pm
[..YouTube..] @toddolavi no its crazy bullshit written by a stupid fuck who needed money and attention
February 20th, 2010 at 8:29 pm
[..YouTube..] Ridiculous.
February 20th, 2010 at 9:17 pm
[..YouTube..] Kraig Varner, a sculptor who has mastered a range of sculpting genres from figurative to contemporary to portrait work.
February 20th, 2010 at 9:17 pm
[..YouTube..] Blanche Wilson, who has a broad art background and specializes in woodblock printing.
February 20th, 2010 at 9:18 pm
[..YouTube..] They represent a wide variety, Ames said, including “some who are more traditional, some who are more illustrative, some who are sometimes considered more folk artists.”
February 20th, 2010 at 10:04 pm
[..YouTube..] @Bureyeanne what and mormonism is not??????? u are indeed a retard for even saying that
February 21st, 2010 at 12:51 am
[..YouTube..] It is of extremely poor taste to use the word retard.
I see you have time to type 7 question marks but not the time to type “you” properly. Also you don’t define what I was “saying”. (which was actually typed, not said) So you know, ending a sentence in a preposition such as, “that” shows a dramatic lack of linguistic skill. Yet despite all this, you have decided to retort that I am retarded?
I highly suggest getting an education before any further criticism of any faith, or system of belief.
February 21st, 2010 at 12:57 am
[..YouTube..] Since you feel that about all religions, so why bother to comment?
February 21st, 2010 at 6:27 am
[..YouTube..] Eat shit and die Joseph Smith muah hahaha! Joseph smith lickes christainitys butthole
February 21st, 2010 at 6:32 am
[..YouTube..] yeah and on their way across the usa they were Exterminating the native ppls and enslaving africans, yes thats very awsome and poetic lol, eat shit and die joseph smith and all whites hahaha kill the cracker enslave the white man and wipe them off the planet for they are the minority of the world and barbaric in nature hahaha
February 21st, 2010 at 12:40 pm
[..YouTube..] Joseph smith went to hell b/c he was a fag that believed in wrong stuff
February 21st, 2010 at 10:26 pm
[..YouTube..] @Tommyneog
Fags don’t normally get married so often.
February 21st, 2010 at 10:27 pm
[..YouTube..] @desertfrog64
I don’t know what you are smoking but I want some.
Joseph Smith road on horseback hundreds of miles to personally tell President Buchanan to stop slavery.
February 22nd, 2010 at 12:35 am
[..YouTube..] @Bureyeanne dont tell me you believe in this shit
February 22nd, 2010 at 12:48 am
[..YouTube..] If you have seen what I have seen, and heard what I have heard you would apologize.
February 22nd, 2010 at 12:49 am
[..YouTube..] @Tommyneog
From your videos, you definitely need to learn to close your mouth when you eat.
If you can master that skill then maybe you can work on making coherent statements on here.
February 22nd, 2010 at 12:53 am
[..YouTube..] No worries, there is a place for you.
February 22nd, 2010 at 2:14 am
[..YouTube..] @gbtusa9966 I don’t know what you’re arguing about with Bureyeanne, but he or she completely kicked your a**!
I got a good laugh out of his pointing out your liberal use of question marks followed by the letter u for “you.”
I read somewhere that the number of consecutive question marks and exclamation points a person uses is inversely related to their IQ.
Otherwise, yes, if you use the word “retard” you make yourself look like an idiot.
I’m Justa: Pro-truth Latter-day Saint
February 22nd, 2010 at 10:22 am
[..YouTube..] And if it so be that they repent and acome unto the Father in the name of Jesus, they shall be received into the kingdom of God. And now, if I have no authority for these things, judge ye; for ye shall know that I have authority when ye shall see me, and we shall stand before God at the last day. Amen. (Ether 5:5-6)
For all the doubters… Moroni will be there in the last day. Now all you can do is hope that he really won’t be. Can you really take that much of a chance?
February 22nd, 2010 at 10:24 am
[..YouTube..] @Tommyneog
How uneducated… is that your interpretation of the pamphlet you read?
February 22nd, 2010 at 11:24 am
[..YouTube..] supermonkey100…I was just thinking your reply shows a general lack of intelligence. The world trade center was attacked by terrorists that had twisted their religion to fit what they wanted or had been brainwashed to do by people with ulterior motives, and that was to kill Americans.
February 22nd, 2010 at 6:45 pm
[..YouTube..] @THELDSLIFE hey fuck you and and this shit yes SHIT you believe in
February 22nd, 2010 at 8:29 pm
[..YouTube..] Potty mouth….you just proved to the world what kind-of person you really are and that must make you feel real good about yourself.
February 23rd, 2010 at 11:11 am
[..YouTube..] Mormon Apologetic Scholarship and Evangelical Neglect:
Losing the Battle and Not Knowing It?
Carl Mosser and Paul Owen
1997 Evangelical Theological Society Far West Annual Meeting
April 25, 1997
February 23rd, 2010 at 11:59 am
[..YouTube..] @Bureyeanne
Wow, what have you seen? Zarahemla? A shiblon coin? Zelph’s remains? What?
February 23rd, 2010 at 1:09 pm
[..YouTube..] Have you see a single artifact left by Israelites in Egypt? How about the 45 % of the cities in the Bible have never been found. How about the arch of the covenant? There isn’t even solid evidence that there was a Jesus Christ as written in the Bible except that which was written some decades after the fact.
February 23rd, 2010 at 1:42 pm
[..YouTube..] @Bureyeanne
No. But unlike you, I never claimed to have. So, what “visual evidence” would you like to present?
February 23rd, 2010 at 2:22 pm
[..YouTube..] And cast my pearls before swine, I think not.
February 23rd, 2010 at 2:52 pm
[..YouTube..] Very good. Are you LDS?
February 23rd, 2010 at 3:55 pm
[..YouTube..] 6th generation
February 23rd, 2010 at 3:59 pm
[..YouTube..] Amazing!
Great comments.
February 23rd, 2010 at 4:08 pm
[..YouTube..] AmIWhiteYet—–Have you seen your brain? No! but you believe its there don’t you? Just because some of us don’t believe you have much of one doesn’t mean you don’t.
February 23rd, 2010 at 6:30 pm
[..YouTube..] The Book of Mormon is a volume of holy scripture comparable to the Bible and is a record of God’s dealings with His chosen people in the New World. The main purpose of the Book of Mormon is “to the convincing of Jew and Gentile that JESUS is the CHRIST, the ETERNAL GOD, manifesting himself unto all nations.” (Book of Mormon Title Page) It was written by ancient American prophets for our day (Mormon 8:35) and is an American testament of the Lord Jesus Christ.
February 23rd, 2010 at 6:32 pm
[..YouTube..] AmericantestamentDOTblogspotdotcom
a personal favorite of mine, and it has a link for VISUAL evidence aids for the spiritually dead.
February 23rd, 2010 at 11:59 pm
[..YouTube..] RELIGION :re-li.gion [ri-lij-uhn]
1.(NOUN) A mental disorder which makes the victim believe that they have imaginary friends that created the universe,are everywhere at once and are all powerful.victims also suffer from blind rage when the existence of said imaginary friends is questioned.
February 24th, 2010 at 10:29 am
[..YouTube..] @wtalady–Right, so terrorists like the ones that attacked New York didn’t actually believe in their dogmatic religious doctrines to embolden them into action, it’s solely a tool they used to externally justify their actions. Nice one. And “brainwashed to do by people with ulterior motives” is a perfect description of most religions actually.
February 24th, 2010 at 10:30 am
[..YouTube..] @Osjvla–=) Awesome, and entirely accurate description.
February 24th, 2010 at 10:44 am
[..YouTube..] @wtalady
Just like your constant espousing of subjective emotional experience (beliefs) as “knowledge”, you espouse understanding as visual perception. It’s a fallacy common to Mormonism to strengthen the cognitive bias known as insufficient justification effect where when your actions (bearing testimony) lack sufficient justification (valid reasons) your mind compensates and comes up with its own reasons even when they have no bearing on reality.
The Mormon cult is brainwashing you well!
February 24th, 2010 at 11:03 am
[..YouTube..] @AmIWhiteYet–I hope the mormon cult is heavily penalized by governments (especially in America) for trying to inflict its evil agenda on the rest of society.
February 24th, 2010 at 4:01 pm
[..YouTube..] As do I. When we point out the many claims of Mormonism that don’t hold up, Mormons are forced to resort to such tactics as:
Ad-hominem – Anyone who criticizes Mormonism is evil, easily offended, loves porn, whatever and therefore their criticisms are unfounded (thus sidestepping any debate)
Persecution complex – You’re persecuting us which proves that this work is true! (No it doesn’t)
Faith trumps reason card – JS having wives who were already married doesn’t matter because I believe!
February 24th, 2010 at 5:44 pm
[..YouTube..] Nonsense, not even anti-mormons say that Shmith wrote the whole book by himself.
February 24th, 2010 at 7:11 pm
[..YouTube..] In my research I found independent accounts from individuals saying how Joseph Smith had performed many healing miracles similar to that in the new testament through the laying on of hands. He cured deafness, severe sickness, and chlorea on several people through this method, and the accounts are all genuine. I ask all of you do supernatural healing miracles sound like the work of a conman and a liar to you?
if anything, decisive proof of who he really was, a prophet, called of god.
February 25th, 2010 at 2:00 am
[..YouTube..] AmIWhiteYet, You need some serious mental help —commit yourself as soon as possible.
February 25th, 2010 at 2:14 pm
[..YouTube..] @supermonkey100
I hope the Jew cult is heavily penalized by governments (especially in Germany) for trying to inflict its evil agenda on the rest of society.
You fascist bastard.
February 26th, 2010 at 12:25 am
[..YouTube..] I do not pretend to have all the answers concerning the setting and peoples of the Book of Mormon, but I do have a variety of insights that are completely compatible with the information stated in that text.
February 26th, 2010 at 12:25 am
[..YouTube..] My first and primary insight pertains to the Book of Mormon and its geography. This book was never prepared as geography, but rather as an incomplete history of several lineages as represented by specific individuals and their relationship with their God.
February 26th, 2010 at 12:25 am
[..YouTube..] This history is loosely draped on a background that includes complex geographical connections among many specific places where the events of the book unfolded.
February 27th, 2010 at 10:09 am
[..YouTube..] @Osjvia @supermonkey100
The Godless making friends on an LDS video.
Only on youtube!
February 27th, 2010 at 10:12 am
[..YouTube..] Cry me a river.
February 28th, 2010 at 1:08 am
[..YouTube..] Utah State students Colby Page, left, and Joseph Irvine, right, present Elder Robert D. Hales with a cooler filled with “Aggie Blue Ice Cream,” a favorite campus confection. Elder Hales spoke at a fireside on the Utah State University campus.
February 28th, 2010 at 1:09 am
[..YouTube..] Elder Hales asked the members of the congregation to parallel the teachings and example of Joseph to their own experiences when going through the trials of life. He reminded them that, like Moroni, “Ye receive witness until the trial of your faith.”
February 28th, 2010 at 1:44 pm
[..YouTube..] cant stand the truth eh? fucker!
February 28th, 2010 at 1:51 pm
[..YouTube..] AND! MAGGOT!!! the FIRST and LAST words out of your filthy little COCK sucking mouth should be SIR!!
AND IF! I was remotely interested of your opinion
I would ask for it.
February 28th, 2010 at 3:19 pm
[..YouTube..] tnx well ,well look @ that my comment has been removed.. tsk tsk truth hurts !!!
March 1st, 2010 at 10:21 am
[..YouTube..] JOSEPH SMITH YOU A BITCH !!!!!
March 1st, 2010 at 12:50 pm
[..YouTube..] konf7
Grow up and get an education
March 1st, 2010 at 1:42 pm
[..YouTube..] 80 days to write it? Smith supposedly dug the plates up in Sept. 1827, almost 2 years before it was finished; way more than 80 days. He didn’t “publish is to the world” in many languages, just English, and took it to one Canadian publisher, but first he tried to sell it. He did no research? How do you know. He’d no doubt been planning this scheme for a while. His own FIL was pretty disgusted by Smith’s con schemes.
Doesn’t fly, Seth.
March 1st, 2010 at 3:39 pm
[..YouTube..] @LDSapologist71 / I GOT THE TRUTH PUNK , AND NOT FAKE ASS TEACHINGS FROM A FALSE PROPHET LIKE JOE SMITH!
March 1st, 2010 at 6:26 pm
[..YouTube..] Fuck u and everybody who looks like you BEEEEEEEEOTCH!!!
March 1st, 2010 at 6:30 pm
[..YouTube..] fuck off , Who r u calling moron u stinking mormon?
March 1st, 2010 at 8:27 pm
[..YouTube..] There is a principle which is a bar against all information, which is proof against all arguments and which cannot fail to keep a man in everlasting ignorance that principle is contempt prior to investigation.
-Herbert Spencer
March 1st, 2010 at 8:28 pm
[..YouTube..] JOSEPH SMITH WAS A TRUE PROPHET OF GOD!!!
The church of JESUS CHRIST IS RESTORED and NOT YOU, NOT ILLINOIS, NOT ANYONE CAN CHANGE THIS FACT!
March 1st, 2010 at 9:57 pm
[..YouTube..] RELIGION :re-li.gion [ri-lij-uhn]
1.(NOUN) A mental disorder which makes the victim believe that they have imaginary friends that created the universe,are everywhere at once and are all powerfull.victims also suffer from blind rage when the existence of said imaginary friends is questioned. HOW TRUE THIS IS after I read the pm’s u sent me..
SUCK ON THAT MORON!!!
March 2nd, 2010 at 4:30 pm
[..YouTube..] Interesting to see how lds’s suffer from blind rage when the existence of their imaginary friends / prophets / god’s is questioned.
March 2nd, 2010 at 4:45 pm
[..YouTube..] I know, right? I get a good laugh out of it.
March 2nd, 2010 at 6:00 pm
[..YouTube..] yup, that’s why we r here =D
March 2nd, 2010 at 6:59 pm
[..YouTube..] It is following after the wisdom of men which has proven folly and not God or his prophets.
God has called such men as Moses, Isaiah, Daniel, and many others in the past and there were many who also rejected them and stoned them… but if it weren’t for their writings, how would we know the mind and will of God?
Till we all come to the unity of faith must have been a fools hope. Christ’s church went from 1 to 38,000 in 2 short Millennium.
You would possibly have stoned the prophets yourself.
March 2nd, 2010 at 7:01 pm
[..YouTube..] To get Teancum from Tecumseh, one has to take off the last syllable, add “an” after the “Te,” and there you have it. Tecumseh = Teancum. Kind of like John = Joshua!
Teancum also slayed Amalickiah and Ammoron.
Do you have a brilliant explanation for those names and other names in the Book of Mormon like;
Zenephi, Ripliancum, Comnor, Shiz, Amgid, Kimnor, Riplakish, Corom, Amnigaddah, Kumenonhi, Mathonihah, Paanchi, Pachus, Zerahemnah, Antiomno, Zeezrom, Limher, Mormon, Moroni and many more?
March 2nd, 2010 at 7:06 pm
[..YouTube..] Why don’t you just come out and say that you have no religion because your comments could be aimed towards all faiths who believe on Christ. I know it’s nearly impossible for the godless among us to understand the plan of salvation which has been prepared for us from the foundation of the world.
One of the Devil’s greatest accomplishments is he has convinced all mankind that he does not exist; leaving any and all open to whatever idea of Atheism they choose to embrace.
You’re not Anti-LDS alone.
March 2nd, 2010 at 7:08 pm
[..YouTube..] Anti-Mormons don’t know what to say. They keep changing gears and trying out new theories.
March 2nd, 2010 at 7:12 pm
[..YouTube..] Yes, well we couldn’t expect them to feel comfortable all alone in their beliefs. We watch as they holler back at us to shut off the light much like an awakened child.
March 2nd, 2010 at 7:13 pm
[..YouTube..] I’m on a blocking people hunt and “AmIWhiteYet” has my vote for a #50…
March 2nd, 2010 at 7:30 pm
[..YouTube..] No I am not only anti lds,, jv and u r the same shit.
and hell,, I m holding the AMISH in higher regard than u lot!
March 2nd, 2010 at 7:32 pm
[..YouTube..] lol No shit. I’m an atheist and proud of it. You can say it’s the work of satan, but as an educated human being, I know that isn’t so. It’s really too bad people such as yourself won’t abandon your primitive belief systems and gain a better understanding of science.
March 2nd, 2010 at 7:47 pm
[..YouTube..] @dougdcutler
OK
SIMPLE
Joe just took the existing geograhy as his basis for the boM FABLE
Joe just took existing names and changed them levi into lehi
Joe took existing towns villages and did the same, the real Oneida becomes Oneidah
Sherebrook becomes Shurr etc……
March 2nd, 2010 at 7:51 pm
[..YouTube..] @dougdcutler
Vernal Holley’s book re-constructed the internal geography of the Book of Mormon and superimposed it on the modern Great Lakes area – there is a precise fit
Here’s some examples REAL followed by BoM
So Conner – becomes Comner
Likewise:
Ephrem, Saint – Ephraim, Hill
Hellam – Helam
Lehigh – Lehi
Moraviantown – Morianton
Morin – Moron
Oneida – Onidah
Rama – Ramah
March 2nd, 2010 at 7:52 pm
[..YouTube..] @dougdcutler
We have only just begun
Jo was a provable Fraud & religious flim Flam man
March 2nd, 2010 at 8:26 pm
[..YouTube..] You could say the same for any character in the Bible or any religious text. Since there are no ways to prove any of it happened as written in a controlled environment, then one could just as easy say that it is all propaganda and folk tails.
March 2nd, 2010 at 8:29 pm
[..YouTube..] This proves nothing. This is circumstantial evidence at best. One is better off claiming that Jesus only ripped off the Buddhist doctrines, or that Paul wrote fictional anti-Roman letters.
March 2nd, 2010 at 8:30 pm
[..YouTube..] I think you mean kent hovind don’t you?
March 2nd, 2010 at 8:37 pm
[..YouTube..] @THELDSLIFE
Good, but it only means they can’t send you messages. Now if they are verbally abusive, then you can ask youtube to have their account removed for what that is worth.
March 2nd, 2010 at 9:26 pm
[..YouTube..] @Bureyeanne
There is too much coincedence to be a mere accident
JO ripped off Swedenborg doctrines
March 2nd, 2010 at 9:29 pm
[..YouTube..] MORE CO INKY DINKS
AND so the Real Comoros becomes Cumorah
Jo sMYTH created the name “Cumorah” through his study of the treasure hunting stories of Capt. W. Kidd. Capt. Kidd was said to have buried treasure in the Comoros islands, Smith used the name of the islands & applied it to the hill where he found buried treasure, the golden plates.
1 More AMAZING Co Inky Dink
MORONi is the name of the capital city!
March 2nd, 2010 at 9:34 pm
[..YouTube..] In 1784 a man by the name of Emanuel Swedenborg wrote about his visions of the afterlife. Teachings Remarkably similar to JO later claimed to receive as revelation.
Swedenborg taught: “There are three heavens” … “entirely distinct from each other.”
He called the highest heaven “the Celestial Kingdom,” and stated that the inhabitants of the three heavens corresponded to the “sun, moon and stars.”
WONDER where JO got “revelation” D&C76?
(looks like the local Library lol)
March 2nd, 2010 at 9:35 pm
[..YouTube..] “Can such numerous and startling points of resemblance and suggestive contact be merely coincidence?”
(B. H. Roberts, Studies of the Book of Mormon, (University of Illinois Press, 1985), p. 242)
March 2nd, 2010 at 9:38 pm
[..YouTube..] Then there are all those troubling FIRST Vision stories by others LONG Before JO Plagarized them
March 2nd, 2010 at 9:39 pm
[..YouTube..] LOOKS LIKE JOE READ THE LOCAL PAPER
It seemed as if my mind… was struck motionless… before the awful and glorious majesty of the Great Jehovah… He also told me, that every denomination of professing Christians had become extremely corrupt… [H]e said that all the different denominations of professing Christians, constituted the New Testament Babylon. Asa Wild, article printed in Palmyras Wayne Sentinel, October 22, 182
March 2nd, 2010 at 9:51 pm
[..YouTube..] DUMB MEMBERS HAVING MOTHAFUCKA !
March 2nd, 2010 at 11:09 pm
[..YouTube..] I am not even going to ask what your point is.
March 3rd, 2010 at 2:54 am
[..YouTube..] the names mulek and lehi are actually mentioned in the bible. and it’s very interesting that bring up these names because if you’d have read the book of mormon youd realize that mormons believe the inhabitants of hawaii are decendants of the nephites and lamanites. just and interesting point that alot of these words are similar.
March 3rd, 2010 at 4:59 am
[..YouTube..] The Indian mounds that dotted western New York were a constant source of speculation during the time Joseph grew up there. It was a common legend that western New York and Ohio had once been the site of a terrible slaughter and that the mounds were the cemeteries of an entire race. In 1821, a Palmyra newspaper stated that diggers on the Erie Canal had unearthed “several BRASS PLATES” along with skeletons and fragments of pottery
Fawn Brodie, No Man Knows My History pp35-36
March 3rd, 2010 at 5:00 am
[..YouTube..] @dougdcutler
Wonder where JO got his ideas from amazingly from the local newspaper
Joe also had access to buried treasure stories thru articles in Canandaigua Ontario Repository on Feb. 9, 1825, and also in the Palmyra Wayne Sentinel on Feb. 16th.
March 3rd, 2010 at 5:02 am
[..YouTube..] Where did JO get his source material for his First Vision Fish Story?
“I went into the woods … a light appeared from heaven…. My mind seemed to rise in that light to the throne of God and the Lamb…. The Lamb once slain appeared to my understanding, and while viewing him, I felt such love to him as I never felt to any thing earthly…. It is not possible for me to tell how long I remained in that situation …” The Life Conversion Preaching Travels & Sufferings of Elias Smith 1816 p58-59
March 3rd, 2010 at 5:12 am
[..YouTube..] @dougdcutler
Oneida has a mormon ward it is east of Palmyra in upstate NY
Morin is in Canada
March 3rd, 2010 at 5:27 am
[..YouTube..] @dougdcutler
Until the year 1838 there was NO MENTION of JO having seen Father & son in any newspaper or comtemporary writing including LDS Church publications. NO MENTION in diaries or journals of JO’s friends or Church leaders There was also no mention in the writings of Jo’s enemies
NO EVIDENCE
March 3rd, 2010 at 5:30 am
[..YouTube..] @dougdcutler
1832
In Josephs handwritten first draft of his history only Jesus is mentioned as appearing
(The Personal Writings of Joseph Smith compiled by Dean Jessee Deseret Book 2002 p10-11)
March 3rd, 2010 at 5:37 am
[..YouTube..] 1816
[T]he Lord showed me in a vision that there was no people on the earth that was right, and that faith was gone from the earth…all Churches were corrupt…soon raise up a Church, that would be after the Apostolic Order, that there would be in it the same powers, and gifts that were in the days of Christ…This was in the year of 1816.. for which I was much persecuted and called deluded
A Sketch of the experience of Solomon Chamberlain
(lived only 20 miles away from Palmyra)
March 3rd, 2010 at 5:42 am
[..YouTube..] @Bureyeanne
By Joseph Smith’s own statements, he was familiar with Swedenborg’s writings. Joseph told a convert by the name of Edward Hunter that:
“Emanuel Swedenborg had a view of the world to come, but for daily food he perished.” (Statement in 1839 by Joseph Smith to Edward Hunter, a Swedenborgian convert who later became the presiding bishop of the Church)
March 3rd, 2010 at 5:44 am
[..YouTube..] @Bureyeanne
(Conjugial Love, 20-21, 54(5), 155)
Swedenborg witnessed a marriage ceremony in heaven, in which the husband wore priesthood robes like those of Aaron while the wife was arrayed as a queen. Also, marriage between man and woman is necessary to inherit the highest heaven.
D&C 131:2
LDS temple marriages carry over to heaven & involve clothing similar to what Swedenborg described. marriage between man and woman is necessary to inherit the highest degree of Celestial kingdom
March 3rd, 2010 at 5:46 am
[..YouTube..] Emanuel Swedenborg received his divine calling on April 6, 1744. One year later on April 6, 1745 the Lord appeared to him again.
D&C 20:1 LDS church was established on April 6, 1830. It also teaches that Jesus was born on April 6.
March 3rd, 2010 at 5:48 am
[..YouTube..] Swendenborg
(True Christian Religion, 340-342, Heaven and Hell, 427)
One of the great errors of Christianity is justification by faith alone. People will be judged for their actions as well.
LDS Alma 11:34-37
Faith is meaningless without works. People will be judged for their actions as well.
March 3rd, 2010 at 5:50 am
[..YouTube..] HOW JO WROTE THE BoM
Swedenborg
(Last Judgement, 33-39; True Christian Religion, 647)
The church established by Christ died spiritually due to apostasy and false doctrines. The Lord’s church would be re-established and again act as a link with heaven.
(Joseph Smith History, 1:16)
The church established by Christ died spiritually due to apostasy and false doctrines. The Lord’s church was restored through Joseph Smith.
March 3rd, 2010 at 5:50 am
[..YouTube..] “Can such numerous and startling points of resemblance and suggestive contact be merely coincidence?” (B. H. Roberts, Studies of the Book of Mormon, (University of Illinois Press, 1985), p. 242)
March 3rd, 2010 at 6:14 am
[..YouTube..] The Book of Mormon Hill Onidah was in the land of Antionum, east of Zarahemla (Alma 31:3, 32:4)
in New York State is a place called Oneida Castle. It is located on a hill in Oneida County and was the chief settlement of the Oneida Indians of New York.
March 3rd, 2010 at 6:15 am
[..YouTube..] I wonder where Joseph Smith could have gotten the idea for golden plates? Perhaps in the very Bible that he claimed to be so well versed in? For example, Exodus 28:36 says:
And thou shalt make a plate of pure gold, and grave upon it, like the engravings of a signet, holiness to the Lord.
March 3rd, 2010 at 9:56 am
[..YouTube..] To be Joseph Smith and write the BofM, you only have to plagerize it from Solomon Spaulding and not leave out of your copying of the Bible, the errors you can find there too while you are at it. Joe Smith was a klnown liar and biggot then, and the facts remain today what her was and still is. Flowrey words and violin music do not cover the stench he has left behind.
March 3rd, 2010 at 12:30 pm
[..YouTube..] Wow, did you think that up all by yourself?
Read real literature and real facts about the prophet Joseph smith.
@antimormons who continue to post here.
YOU ARE WRONG. The book of MORMON is a SEMITIC TRANSLATION!
March 3rd, 2010 at 12:30 pm
[..YouTube..] FAIRLDSdotORG
for the truth
You so called Christians are lost!
March 3rd, 2010 at 12:31 pm
[..YouTube..] In my research I found independent accounts from people saying how Joseph Smith had performed many healing miracles similar to that in the new testament through laying on of hands. He cured deafness, severe illness like cholorea on several people, and the accounts are all genuine, I ask you do supernatural healing miracles sound like the work of a conman and a liar to you?
LDSapologist71
FAIRLDSdotORG
March 3rd, 2010 at 12:32 pm
[..YouTube..] @bdplist
give up your cut and paste crusade!
March 3rd, 2010 at 4:41 pm
[..YouTube..] JV, LDS,,.MORMONS SAME SHIT Different pile..
your false “prophets” and erroneous scriptures..
is going to bring u down. some of u has already
been exposed for the low life crap u r…
be gone u false prophets and so called “chosen ones
March 3rd, 2010 at 5:50 pm
[..YouTube..] @LDSapologist71
FAIR is nothing more than LDS comedy central. No one outside their bubble takes anything they say seriously.
March 3rd, 2010 at 9:13 pm
[..YouTube..] The Book of Mormon, like the Bible, contains a record of God’s dealings with a part of the House of Israel. It contains prophecies of Christ and also reveals how Christ, after his resurrection and ascension into heaven, later ministered to those who had waited for him in the New World.
March 3rd, 2010 at 11:46 pm
[..YouTube..] HOW?
BIBLE PLAGARISM
Joseph borrowed liberally from the Bible in creating the Book of Mormon. Approximately 25,000 words in the Book of Mormon consist of passages from the Old Testament, mainly chapters from Isaiah that Ethan Smith mentioned in View of the Hebrews. Another 2,000 words were taken from the New Testament. (Fawn Brodie, No Man Knows My History, p. 58)
Like Twain said if you removed all the “AND IT CAME TO PASS” phrases U would only have a Pamphlet!
March 3rd, 2010 at 11:47 pm
[..YouTube..] WHERE?
LOCAL NEWS!
The Indian mounds that dotted western New York were a constant source of speculation during the time Joseph grew up there. It was a common legend that western New York and Ohio had once been the site of a terrible slaughter and that the mounds were the cemeteries of an entire race. In 1821, a Palmyra newspaper stated that diggers on the Erie Canal had unearthed “several BRASS PLATES” along with skeletons and fragments of pottery.
Fawn Brodie, No Man Knows My History p35
March 4th, 2010 at 3:09 am
[..YouTube..] The overarching intent of the father of lies is that all of us would become miserable like unto himself (2 Nephi 2:27), and he works to distort the elements of the Fathers plan he hates the most.
March 4th, 2010 at 3:09 am
[..YouTube..] Satan does not have a body, and his eternal progress has been halted. Just as water flowing in a riverbed is stopped by a dam, so the adversarys eternal progress is thwarted because he does not have a physical body. Because of his rebellion, Lucifer has denied himself all of the mortal blessings and experiences made possible through a tabernacle of flesh and bones
March 4th, 2010 at 3:09 am
[..YouTube..] He cannot learn the lessons that only an embodied spirit can learn. He cannot marry or enjoy the blessings of procreation and family life. He cannot abide the reality of a literal and universal resurrection of all mankind. One of the potent scriptural meanings of the word damned is illustrated in his inability to continue developing and becoming like our Heavenly Father.
March 4th, 2010 at 6:03 pm
[..YouTube..] @TheEtern
March 4th, 2010 at 6:05 pm
[..YouTube..] @TheEternalPunk What of the F.A.R.M.S.?
March 4th, 2010 at 6:07 pm
[..YouTube..] @sboo1950 You are way behind the times. \Bob and Rosemary Brown in” they lie in wait to deceive” exposed this lie years ago.
March 4th, 2010 at 9:17 pm
[..YouTube..] The bible and the Book of Mormon are One, just like the Father and the Son are One, just like all the angels in heaven are ONE with God, and just as we ought to be ONE with God on earth. They are His WORDS.
FAIRMORMONdotORG
for the truth
March 5th, 2010 at 6:33 pm
[..YouTube..] *religion
March 5th, 2010 at 6:34 pm
[..YouTube..] The Godless are not immune to the commandments including taking God’s name in vain.
Whether you recognize it or not, you are acknowledging that there is a God with every profane curse.
Yes, it is very ironic to compare God to Peter Pan and Santa Clause.
March 5th, 2010 at 6:42 pm
[..YouTube..] No, comparing the God of the Bible to Santa Clause/Peter Pan is perfectly legitimate. They are both man-made, are believed in by people with simple-minds all three have absolutely no proof confirming their existence, and people who believe in them usually do it for some type of relief.
Try harder, kiddo.
March 5th, 2010 at 6:43 pm
[..YouTube..] “Guarantee”?
You have already proven you are a novice in knowledge of the LDS faith so lets stop pretending since you dislike “imaginary” things.
If I want to learn more about the Civil Rights Movement then I will learn about Martin Luther King Jr., not Malcolm X.
You can easily talk to an African American or Black in the LDS Church and express to them how disgusting their religion is.
But I am sure you will just rely on your “expertise” instead.
March 5th, 2010 at 6:51 pm
[..YouTube..] Oh, right, because knowing about King sure will tell you everything you want to know about it. Thanks for displaying your ignorance again, lad. Again, that’s what I expect from someone who believes in the Mormon Church.
And I have spoken to many Black ex-Mormons, and EVERY single one of them told me that they didn’t know about the history of their Church. Once they found out, they left. So yes, place me in contact with some Black Mormons you know – if you even know any Black people.
March 5th, 2010 at 6:52 pm
[..YouTube..] “They are both man-made”?
Both as in Santa Clause and Peter Pan are man-made? How ironic, I agree.
I would recommend in not preaching that God fearing people have simple-minds when making failed statements like that.
Obviously, you should have stated “all three” are man made, but your brilliant logic is that only the God-fearing are simple-minded, like Albert Einstein.
March 5th, 2010 at 6:55 pm
[..YouTube..] Yes, god, Santa and Peter Pan are man made. Ironic, eh? So saying the names means you believe in them? I don’t see the logic. Explain. Oh, that’s right…………you won’t be able to.
Albert Einstein believed in Spinoza’s god, and proclaimed himself to be an agnostic at other times. Big difference between that and believing in the tales of your religion.
March 5th, 2010 at 6:59 pm
[..YouTube..] The one difference between us is that I am not claiming to be an “expert” on the Civil Rights Movement like you are with the LDS Church.
Ex-Mormons? Of course.
Lets not preach ignorance when you state “if you even know any Black people”.
March 5th, 2010 at 7:00 pm
[..YouTube..] Haha, Einstein, you say was “god-fearing”, do ya?
“I received your letter of June 10th. I have never talked to a Jesuit priest in my life and I am astonished by the audacity to tell such lies about me. From the viewpoint of a Jesuit priest I am, of course, and have always been an atheist.”
Sorry….
Man, you suck at defending this stuff…
March 5th, 2010 at 7:02 pm
[..YouTube..] Oh, that’s right, you Mormons are like the Jehovah’s Witnesses, and totally trash and cut yourself off from ex-members of your cult.
So yeah, do me a favor and put me in contact with some of the Black Mormons you know.
March 5th, 2010 at 7:03 pm
[..YouTube..] That one went right past you.
He believed in God despite our differences.
But with your brilliant logic, Albert Einstein is a simple-mind.
March 5th, 2010 at 7:05 pm
[..YouTube..] Yeah, I just refuted that false claim.
Try again.
March 5th, 2010 at 7:34 pm
[..YouTube..] You just admitted earlier that he believed in a God. Lets help you out so you don’t look so embarrassing.
Key words “From the viewpoint of a Jesuit priest”
Albert Einstein easy to read for you quotes:
“God doesn’t play dice”
“What really interests me is whether God had any choice in the creation of the world”
“I want to know how God created this world. I’m not interested in this or that phenomenon, in the spectrum of this or that element. I want to know His thoughts; the rest are details”
March 5th, 2010 at 7:35 pm
[..YouTube..] Are Copernicus, Sir Francis Bacon, Kepler, Galileo, Descartes, Newton, Boyle, Mendel, Knuth and Planck simple minded too?
Or are you just going to stick with your brilliant logic that all God-fearing people are “simple minded”?
March 5th, 2010 at 7:37 pm
[..YouTube..] They are always welcome back.
It just explained where you were getting your “info” from and magically becoming this self professed “expert” on the LDS faith.
Put you in contact so you can tell them how disgusting their religion is? You are not even amusing.
blacklds O R G
March 5th, 2010 at 7:59 pm
[..YouTube..] Do you even know what Spinoza’s God is? You obviously don’t. I can give you plenty of other quotes from him where he dismisses the idea of a personal god, and at other times, god himself.
March 5th, 2010 at 8:00 pm
[..YouTube..] Yeah, I’d love to know why a Black person would be a Mormon.
But like I said, the Mormon Church, like another other cult, doesn’t like ex-believers because they usually expose much of the bullshit about your cult.
March 5th, 2010 at 8:03 pm
[..YouTube..] Plus, I think it’s funny as hell that there has to be an entire website to Black LDS. By the way, I have been to that website. It’s like reading communist apoligists; people performing mental gymnastics, only to land straight on their heads and dying a painful death.
March 5th, 2010 at 8:05 pm
[..YouTube..] Didn’t Young say “….Shall I tell you the law of God in regard to the African race? If the white man who belongs to the chosen seed mixes his blood with the seed of Cain, the penalty, under the law of God, is death on the spot. This will always be so.”
That’s just great. According to him, I should be killed.
What a sick fuck Young was, and should be remembered for.
March 5th, 2010 at 8:42 pm
[..YouTube..] Wow, the entire conversation has gone completely over your head.
We weren’t arguing what Einsten’s belief was about God, but if he believed in a God.
You are going to give plenty of other quotes while dismissing the one’s I posted? That is convenient.
Still want to try to explain away the other brilliant men who believed in God?
According to you and your brilliant logic, they are all “simple-minded”.
March 5th, 2010 at 8:44 pm
[..YouTube..] Are you capable of reading the entire, CORRECT quote? Of course you are not.
You have only proven to me you have a very disturbing logic towards anything you don’t understand. Probably why you gravitate towards Malcolm X and Anarchism.
You also have proven you cannot carry a civil conversation or have the capabilities to understand what is being talked about.
I felt like I was talking in circles only to realize that you are just a simple square.
March 5th, 2010 at 8:52 pm
[..YouTube..] Yes it was. You claimed that Einstein was “god-fearing”. Remember? If someone doesn’t believe in a personal god and say, Spinoza’s god at best, and describes himself as an “atheist” at worse. And yes, I said that people who believe in “the God of the Bible” are “simple minded”.
Anyone who believes in talking snakes are simple-minded. Most Christians who have an IQ os 115+ would try to rationalize that, saying its non-literal, basically admitting the absurdity of the religion itself.
March 5th, 2010 at 8:55 pm
[..YouTube..] Ah, yes, the typical religious response: “If you don’t believe in the same imaginary friend I have, then you dont know anything about it”.
And of course, if the information comes from an ex member of your cult, then that disqualifies him automatically.
Spoken like a true cult member, little one.
March 5th, 2010 at 9:31 pm
[..YouTube..] Lets not lie what you really said.
“They are both man-made, are believed in by people with simple-minds all three have absolutely no proof confirming their existence, and people who believe in them usually do it for some type of relief.”
People that believe in God = simple-minded.
This was your brilliant logic that you easily forgot while miserably debating.
I would definitely have a doctor check out that memory.
In the meantime, good luck w/ those “bootie” videos.
March 5th, 2010 at 9:35 pm
[..YouTube..] 3 words:
Mountain Meadows Massacre.
March 6th, 2010 at 10:53 am
[..YouTube..] First, you claim he got the vision from a newspaper that was printed in 1823.
Then flip a 180 and claim that he didn’t reveal the vision until 1838.
Make up what lie you want to go with because I can’t follow your ball of confusion in your head.
March 6th, 2010 at 10:57 am
[..YouTube..] @dougdcutler
It is an easy matter to ESTABLISH thru FACTS that JO had a plethora of available documents & frontier stories on which to assemble his ideas for a new Fish Story
March 6th, 2010 at 11:02 am
[..YouTube..] @dougdcutler
FACTS are stubborn things mormonISM much more pliable.
FACT is there is NOTHING but ur current day Fable substantiating anything about a vision of Father & Son until 1838
Sorry if you cant swallow that bitter pill but Facts are facts
There was no vision that is what the facts bear out
March 6th, 2010 at 11:03 am
[..YouTube..] I understand how hard it is to admit the truth when you have so many years & so much tied up in the LIE
March 6th, 2010 at 11:04 am
[..YouTube..] “. . . I went into the woods . . . a light appeared from heaven. . . . My mind seemed to rise in that light to the throne of God and the Lamb. . . . The Lamb once slain appeared to my understanding, and while viewing him, I felt such love to him as I never felt to any thing earthly. . . . It is not possible for me to tell how long I remained in that situation . . .” The Life, Conversion, Preaching, Travels, and Sufferings of Elias Smith, Portsmouth, N.H., 1816, pp.58-59
March 6th, 2010 at 11:06 am
[..YouTube..] Bob Fitzgerald, left, the Golden State Warriors play-by-play announcer interviews former Utah Jazz basketball player and Church member Thurl Bailey.
March 6th, 2010 at 11:06 am
[..YouTube..] The success of the event was indicated during the post-game wrap-up on the Warriors’ flagship radio station KNBR 680. Commentator Damon Bruce talked for several minutes about how impressive the Church’s attendance was. He spoke of how much excitement the Church brought to the arena and helped ease the pain of the Warriors’ 100-89 loss to the Utah Jazz. He said the Church should come to games more often.
March 6th, 2010 at 11:07 am
[..YouTube..] With all the excitement and buzz about record-breaking attendance, staff from the San Francisco Giants and Oakland A’s at the game paid close attention. The Oakland/San Francisco Public Affairs Council will continue to partner with local sports teams to positively promote the church through LDS events.
March 6th, 2010 at 11:07 am
[..YouTube..] It’s about family, fun and fellowship. Each venue provides a unique opportunity to highlight how the Church is involved in the community whether through a family history spotlight, a special LDS guest speaker, LDS entertainer or simply the presence of missionaries
March 6th, 2010 at 11:07 am
[..YouTube..] [T]he Lord showed me in a vision that there was no people on the earth that was right, and that faith was gone from the earth, excepting a few and that all Churches were corrupt. I further saw in the vision, that he would soon raise up a Church, that would be after the Apostolic Order, that there would be in it the same powers, and gifts that were in the days of Christ…This was in the year of 1816…for which I was much persecuted and called deluded
Chamberlain lived 20 miles away from JO
March 6th, 2010 at 11:11 am
[..YouTube..] “It has been pointed out in these pages that there are many things in the former book that might well have suggested many major things in the other Not a few things merely 1 or 2 or half dozen but many and it is this FACT of many things of SIMILARITY and the CUMULATIVE FORCE of them that makes them so SERIOUS MENACE to Joseph Smiths story of the Book of Mormon’s origin…The material in Ethan Smith’s book is of a character and quantity to make a GROUND PLAN for the BoM” Roberts Stud p240
March 6th, 2010 at 11:13 am
[..YouTube..] @dougdcutler
… was Joseph Smith possessed of a sufficiently VIVID and creative IMAGINATION as to produce such a work as the Book of Mormon from such materials as have been indicated in the preceding chapters …? That such power of imagination would have to be of a high order is CONCEDED that Joseph Smith possessed such a gift of mind there can be no question (Studies, p. 243).
March 6th, 2010 at 11:19 am
[..YouTube..] The Mormons have waged war with the USA
3 times since 1830. The founding father, a Satanic Freemason by the name of Joseph Smith, was arrested in 1844-trying to overthrow the US government
Until 1927 all Mormons were required to swear out an Oath of Vengeance
I do solemnly swear, in the presence of Almighty God and these witnesses,to avenge the blood of Joseph Smith upon this nation and that I will from this day henceforth and forever begin and carry out hostility against this nation’
March 6th, 2010 at 12:05 pm
[..YouTube..] ROBERTS TESTIMONY
“I shall hold that what is here presented illustrates sufficiently the matter taken in hand by referring to them, namely that they are all of one breed and brand; so nearly alike that ONE MIND is the AUTHOR of them, and that a young and undeveloped, but piously inclined mind. The EVIDENCE I SORROWFULLY SUBMIT points to Joseph Smith as their CREATOR” Studies P 271
March 6th, 2010 at 12:06 pm
[..YouTube..] @dougdcutler
“Is all this sober history … or is it a wondertale of an immature mind, unconscious of what a test he is laying on human credulity when asking men to accept his narrative as solemn history?” (Studies, p. 283).
March 6th, 2010 at 12:07 pm
[..YouTube..] @dougdcutler
Roberts concluded that View of the Hebrews had been published FIRST that the possibility that Smith had access to it was “a very close certainty,” and that there were MANY similarities between the works see p 235
March 6th, 2010 at 7:09 pm
[..YouTube..] Mormonism is a religion that teaches BLASPHEMY. Joseph Smith is the devil, a false prophet who has and will lead many into temaptation and fire. The Book of Mormon is false filled with the words of demons and evil. MORMONS!! REPENT and you will all be saved from eternal damnation!!! Turn away from this heretical cult!!!!! Cast the teachings of this false prophet away!!!!
March 6th, 2010 at 7:15 pm
[..YouTube..] @ LDSapologist
The Book of Mormon is a book of lies and evil!!. Joseph Smith is a false prophet!! Do not be led by his words of poison!!! Mormons that follow are HERETICS. BLASPHEMY!!!!!
March 6th, 2010 at 7:30 pm
[..YouTube..] Dear Everyone,
I am writing to let you all know how very grateful we are for your prayers, concern, and love. Please keep praying! We need the Lord’s help and guidance in order to do all He would have us do to learn what He would have us learn from this earth quake tragedy, and to minister in the way He would have us minister.
March 6th, 2010 at 7:31 pm
[..YouTube..] During the past few days, we have witnessed many events which serve to remind us that the Lord is in charge and that as missionaries and members of His church, The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, we are performing His work, and as President Monson teaches, “When we are on the Lord’s errand, we are entitled to His help.” I want to share with you a few miracles that will help you to understand our profound feelings of gratitude.
March 6th, 2010 at 7:32 pm
[..YouTube..] When we were set apart for this calling, Elder Scott of the Council of the Twelve Apostles taught us many important lessons. He spoke from personal experience when he was a mission president in Argentina. One message that he shared with us is this: “At times, during your mission, you will be awakened in the middle of the night or the early morning hours with thoughts of specific things you should do for certain missionaries
March 6th, 2010 at 8:19 pm
[..YouTube..] @bdplist As usual dodging the point. I see no point in continuing conversation with you. You ignore facts and do not respond directly to them. You have a closed mind.
March 6th, 2010 at 9:20 pm
[..YouTube..] @ArizonaDesertPiper
CTR Trust Jesus
March 6th, 2010 at 9:23 pm
[..YouTube..] “It has been pointed out in these pages that there are many things in the former book that might well have suggested many major things in the other. Not a few things merely, one or two, or half dozen, BUT MANY and it is this fact of MANY things of similarity and the cumulative force of them that makes them so SERIOUS a MENACE to Joseph Smith’s story of the Book of Mormon’s origin…Ethan Smiths book is of a character and quantity to make a ground plan for the Book of Mormon”
Studies p 240
March 6th, 2010 at 9:52 pm
[..YouTube..] @ArizonaDesertPiper
SORRY u use silly logic
Availability is irrellevant
Dishonest? LOL the book is of upmost interest & is not to be ignored
Hey Even JO was interested in it since he mentioned Ethan Smith and cited passages from View of the Hebrews in an article published in the Times and Seasons 3:15 (1 June 1842): 813815
March 7th, 2010 at 2:29 am
[..YouTube..] You have been deceived and brainwashed by the False Prophet, Joseph Smith!!!!!! You must REPENT!!! The False Prophet is malicious, a heretical blasphemer. By following the False Prophet, you are dooming yourself to eternal damnation and hell fire!!!! Throw away the Book of Mormon, leave this church of devils and demons for their words are anathema.
March 7th, 2010 at 2:35 am
[..YouTube..] 2 john 1:9-11
March 7th, 2010 at 2:57 am
[..YouTube..] hehehe sooooo true
March 7th, 2010 at 5:09 am
[..YouTube..] @ Osjvia
love your quote
“A mental disorder which makes the victim believe that they have imaginary friends that created the universe,are everywhere at once and are all powerfull.victims also suffer from blind rage when the existence of said imaginary friends is questioned”
March 7th, 2010 at 8:21 am
[..YouTube..] @dougdcutler
The great LDS Historian B H Roberts (in Studies of the Book of Mormon) CONCLUDED that View of the Hebrews had been published FIRST
that the possibility that Smith had access to it was “a very close certainty”
and that there were MANY (not a few) similarities between the works see p 235
Just one more example of HOW JO wrote the BoM
March 7th, 2010 at 10:56 am
[..YouTube..] “A friend lays down his life for his friends.. there is no greater love. To care enough that other innocent souls do not further get manipulated and taken over by an evil cult.”
Yes I’m sure that is exactly what Jesus meant.
If you are so interested in what Jesus Christ meant, why don’t you start by looking at the history of your own church, and the millions they butchered in the name of God, and their “evil cult.”
And don’t hide behind the eastern Orthodoxy, it’s all the same.
March 7th, 2010 at 3:14 pm
[..YouTube..] Galatians1:8 But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach a gospel other than the one we preached to you, let him be eternally condemned! 9As we have already said, so now I say again: If anybody is preaching to you a gospel other than what you accepted, let him be eternally condemned!
March 7th, 2010 at 4:07 pm
[..YouTube..] tnx =)
March 7th, 2010 at 4:41 pm
[..YouTube..] First of all, I’m not Catholic and I believe in the Bible and the Lord but what I don’t believe is the lies spoken by Joseph Smith and the Book of Mormon. What Joseph Smith preaches is heretical. There is no historical, scientific or archaeological evidence to support the book. Furthermore, the nephite tribe, the angel Moroni and the prophet Mormon are not mentioned in the Holy Bible, not even in prophecies by the TRUE prophets! Blind leading the blind, the Mormons have been lead astray!
March 7th, 2010 at 7:18 pm
[..YouTube..] @mezcal098
since Joseph Smith did NOT speak LIES, you have NO point!
now REPENT!
March 7th, 2010 at 7:19 pm
[..YouTube..] Morse, who spent 15 years teaching at Yale and George Mason universities before founding her institute, outlined two general reasons why she believes marriage culture is unraveling: First, people are losing gendered language, and second, people are thinking that fathers, mothers and caretakers can perform the same parental duties interchangeably without losing “something.”
March 7th, 2010 at 7:19 pm
[..YouTube..] She attacked the first idea by citing a half-dozen anecdotes where government replaced gendered terms like bride or groom with terms like spouse.
March 7th, 2010 at 7:20 pm
[..YouTube..] Americans are being taught to believe they’re generic humans, that “we’re not men and woman, we’re generic parents, we’re not moms and dads,” she said. “Ladies and gentlemen, there are no generic people!” she said loudly. “There are men and women; there are boys and girls. That’s who we are, and to lose the sense of ourselves as gender is to lose a part of our humanity. We’re dehumanizing ourselves.”
March 7th, 2010 at 7:33 pm
[..YouTube..] SALT LAKE CITY — When the Mormon Church recently purchased 13 acres near 400 South and Main Street in Salt Lake City, some wondered if the church was “expanding” its traditional buffer around Temple Square.
Church leaders, however, didn’t see it that way.
March 8th, 2010 at 12:27 am
[..YouTube..] You don’t believe in the Bible if your openly reject Joseph Smith and the Book of Mormon.
Neither do you believe in Jesus Christ because Joseph Smith saw and testified of Him as does the Book of Mormon testify of Him. Only true followers will recognize this.
You believe in a false god that was voted on to make a pathetic creed which is not Biblical.
You so called Christians have high-jacked and distorted Christianity.
Your own words damn you..
March 8th, 2010 at 12:30 am
[..YouTube..] @mezcal098
You will have to face Jesus Christ and Joseph Smith will be with Him as you gnash your teeth with anger.
March 8th, 2010 at 12:33 am
[..YouTube..] Is your man-made god mentioned in the Bible?
How do you know the prophets in the Bible were true witnesses? Can you quantify this with any proof?
Where is the evidence of the Garden of Eden? Where is the Ark of Noah? Where is the Tower of Babel? Where is the Ark of the Covenant?
You are a hypocrite. You have been lead astray from true Christianity with your belief in the pathetic doctrine of the trinity.
March 8th, 2010 at 12:37 am
[..YouTube..] This coming from someone who believes in a 3-headed god.
Where does one find the words “essence” or “substance” in the bible when you speak of the godhead being one God?
It isn’t in the bible so don’t be preaching your Galatians when you yourself believe in a man-made god and a false gospel.
You also have highjacked and distorted true Christianity.
March 8th, 2010 at 1:13 am
[..YouTube..] obviously my comment was directed to mormons, who already accept the old and new testament. how can you say ive distorted christianity, just by me quoting the new testament? im obviously not mormon…
March 8th, 2010 at 1:29 am
[..YouTube..] Según este man, uno es “hipócrita” por que no tiene pruebas. Pobre mental.
March 8th, 2010 at 1:31 am
[..YouTube..] obviamente amargado
March 8th, 2010 at 1:33 am
[..YouTube..] muy bien dicho!!1
March 8th, 2010 at 2:01 am
[..YouTube..] You are obviously not a true follower of Jesus Christ.
Again, where does one find the words “essence” or “substance” in the bible when you speak of the godhead being one God?
Are you afraid to answer my questions?
March 8th, 2010 at 3:11 am
[..YouTube..] look out, the mormons are comming and they want to convert everyone and anyone worldwide, why, because of their fanatical and anti-christian mindset, how many wives did joseph smith have 34, although he was rumoured to have 50, he also married 10 of the wives of his living followers, now wouldnt that constitute as adultery, of course it would, this video is just another demonstration of LDS inc trying to cover up the truth of their history with fancy visual aids and emotionally charged music.
March 8th, 2010 at 4:28 am
[..YouTube..] you seem to use this medium like sledging blog , your all over it like a man possessed.Like a dog with a rag, grrrrrrrr . your insult are quiet amusing . You seem to have a go at anything that moves . I say you have zero friendly comment .
go Doug D Cutler the mad Mormon with attitude ! not sure that you represent mormon doctrine tho’ Doug , but hey have a go. Take a chill pill. after all you are still human.
March 8th, 2010 at 9:06 am
[..YouTube..] kramd1 you have already been exposed and you continue to obsess to comment on LDS videos.
I highly encourage you to study the English language, grammar etc. Your comments are a ball of confusion and make no sense.
March 8th, 2010 at 11:17 am
[..YouTube..] @billymeier182
I am suggesting the pope and the priests of the Catholic church are not living the gospel of Jesus Christ, and that the Catholic church is NOT the same organization that Christ set up on the earth. Paul warned in his epistles, that the apostate church could be recognized by refusing some to marry. Could this mean priests? I believe it does.
2 Thesalonians 2:3 For that day [second coming] shall not come except there come a falling away [apostacy] from the truth first.
March 8th, 2010 at 11:24 am
[..YouTube..] HEY it’s all BULLSHIT!
March 8th, 2010 at 2:43 pm
[..YouTube..] @dougdcutler ..Thank you for defending the truth. The Book of Mormon is true as is the Bible when translated correctly and Joseph Smith was a prophet of God. Jesus Christ was sent here to atone for our sins. He is our Lord, our Master, our teacher, our Redeemer and he lives. I testify this to be true in his precious name, Jesus Christ, Amen
March 8th, 2010 at 9:04 pm
[..YouTube..] I doubt it though… lol
March 9th, 2010 at 3:55 am
[..YouTube..] I suppose in defence of the faithful LDS they need it many generations , like a nationality , they will continue to wear it even with zero proof They seek adoption into the house of Israel and live in Zion.. It’s sold for what it’s worth and many families are pacified with obedience under direct intercourse and protection from Elohim for the duration of life , obtaining forever living in the celestial kingdom on Kolob, where God lives. ?
March 9th, 2010 at 4:04 am
[..YouTube..] @wtalady and I testify that joseph smith was a false prophet, amen
March 9th, 2010 at 4:09 am
[..YouTube..] @kramd1 so I guess that after jesus rose from the dead he didnt accend into heaven, but into orbit and then into the deep recesses of space until he reached kolob, by the way, was that with a flying saucer or a teleportation device, sounds a bit like blisstonia from the simsons.
March 9th, 2010 at 11:40 am
[..YouTube..] yes, your comment is!
March 9th, 2010 at 11:40 am
[..YouTube..] Elder Ronald A. Rasband extols true friendships at fireside
March 9th, 2010 at 11:41 am
[..YouTube..] PROVO, Utah — From receiving a new suit to opportunities to serve in The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, friends and mentors have played an important role in the life of Elder Ronald A. Rasband of the Presidency of the Seventy, he said during a Church Educational System fireside Sunday evening.
March 9th, 2010 at 11:44 am
[..YouTube..] Speaking to young adults gathered in Brigham Young University’s Marriott Center and to others watching via satellite broadcast or the Internet around the world, Elder Rasband said, “My message tonight centers on the importance in each of our lives of righteous friendships.”
He spoke of the friendships he has developed in his life and how they have given him peace and strength.
March 9th, 2010 at 11:45 am
[..YouTube..] “Why do I emphasize that?” he asked. “Because in today’s world, so many people willingly trade those friendships for video characters and quick text messages. … They are choosing to ‘hang out’ rather than commit to a deep and meaningful relationship that can be sealed in the temple for eternity. Think about it. True friendships are based on love of God and sharing that love with others.”
March 9th, 2010 at 1:47 pm
[..YouTube..] i Believe Joseph Smith is a true propher of Satan
March 9th, 2010 at 2:25 pm
[..YouTube..] Jesus Christ is our redeemer, our savior and our Lord. He atoned for the sins of all mankind even you. Joseph Smith is a true prophet of God. He helped restore the true church to the earth and he help restore the priesthood to the earth also by the power of God and his son Jesus Christ
March 9th, 2010 at 2:30 pm
[..YouTube..] 2graceforme… “Jesus Christ is our redeemer, our savior and our Lord. He atoned for the sins of all mankind even you.” … now abandone your false book of mormons and abide in Christ, not anything else. Joseph Smith is a FALSE prophet
March 9th, 2010 at 2:35 pm
[..YouTube..] Joseph Smith and many other false prophets simply point people to themselves. Their covetousness manifests itself in a desire for power, influence, control, prestige, or importance—the antithesis of being poor in spirit, meek, pure in heart, and mourning over their ungodly weaknesses. The true prophet does not draw attention to himself but to God. If a prophet or teacher spends a great deal of time talking about himself, it is a good indication just who his god is!
March 9th, 2010 at 4:22 pm
[..YouTube..] HOW Joe got ideas for the BoM
Lehi is from the Old Testament, Judges 15:9,14 and 19.
Nephi is from the King James Version of the Apocrypha, II Maccabees 1:36.
Enos is taken from Genesis 4:26.
Zenos was in use prior to the Book of Mormon as a person’s name. Zenos Riggs is listed in the 1873 Hanover, New Jersey census. Zenos Gurley, Sr., was born in 1801 at Bridgewater, New York, and later joined Mormonism. There is also Zenas in the New Testament, Titus 3:13.
Hey this is easy!
March 9th, 2010 at 4:25 pm
[..YouTube..] 141 of the names in the BoM were simply TAKEN FROM the HOLY Bible
BoM has Abraham, Ammon, Bethabara, Esrom, Ether, Gomorrah, Ishmael, Jared, Jonas, Judea, Lemuel, Madmenah, Nazareth, Pathros, Pekah, Rama, Shinar, Sinim and Zebulun.
March 9th, 2010 at 4:29 pm
[..YouTube..] SIMPLE take a Bible name & just change a letter or 2!
Bible speaks of Abinadab, the BoM mentions Abinadi and Abinadom
BIBLE name – modified – in BoM to
Aminadab -modified to- Aminodi
Kish modified to Akish and Kishcumen
Gimzo becomes Gimgimno
Helam mods to Helaman
Antipas easily becomes Anti-Nephi-Lehi, Antiomno, Antion, Antionah, Antionum, Antiparah & Antipus
Melech mod to Melek
This is easy!
March 9th, 2010 at 4:32 pm
[..YouTube..] LETS TRY ADDING “hah” (lol)
The BoM has the names Nephi & Nephihah
Moroni & Moronihah
Ammon & Ammonihah
Mathoni & Mathonihah
HAH HAH HAH this is easy!
March 9th, 2010 at 4:37 pm
[..YouTube..] HOW TO CREATE NAMES FOR YOUR FAV 19TH CENTURY FICTION
Lets change a few different letters
Antion becomes Antionah, Antionum and Antiomno
Shim expands to Shimnilon
Corianton is a fruitful change becoming Coriantor, Coriantum and Coriantumr
The Biblical Gideon is at once shortened to Gid then expanded to Giddianhi, Giddonah, Gidgiddonah & Gidgiddoni
Riplah morps to Riplakish & Ripliancum
March 9th, 2010 at 4:45 pm
[..YouTube..] Ahh, the Godless making friends on a LDS video.
No pressures, but maybe you two should exchange numbers?
You-tube, where love unexpectedly happens lol
March 9th, 2010 at 4:49 pm
[..YouTube..] Pro-tip:
Before spewing anti-Mormon regurgitation.
Master the English language with proper spelling, grammar and etc…
You-tube is even kind enough to show misspelled words underlined in red.
Simple right click solves the problem or your mom can review before you post.
You are welcome!
March 9th, 2010 at 5:34 pm
[..YouTube..] Go fuck yourself you delusional fuck nut case.
March 9th, 2010 at 5:34 pm
[..YouTube..] I believe there is no God. So Joseph Smith is a complete fuck.
March 9th, 2010 at 6:25 pm
[..YouTube..] @TheDickPrick
Ummmm your beliefs are wrong, and Joseph Smith taught the truth. You really should open your eyes before its too late.
March 9th, 2010 at 6:26 pm
[..YouTube..] is God gay?
March 9th, 2010 at 6:47 pm
[..YouTube..] B.O.M : NOW IN 3-PLY CHA CHA CHA B.O.M
March 9th, 2010 at 7:07 pm
[..YouTube..] BoM a tool of FAITH!
March 10th, 2010 at 1:18 am
[..YouTube..] the language I expect from you ANGRY irrational types!
March 10th, 2010 at 1:18 am
[..YouTube..] Sister Hafen shared some of the bridles she uses “to stay tender to God’s touch”: prayer (“asking more specifically because I know from experience I will get more specific answers”), scripture study (“especially the Book of Mormon”), fasting and attending the temple (“where heaven meets earth”).
March 10th, 2010 at 1:19 am
[..YouTube..] The devotional assembly ended with Elder Hafen expressing his vision of the eternal destination he hopes to achieve vis-?vis passions bridled after the manner set forth by the Lord.
March 10th, 2010 at 9:03 am
[..YouTube..] Never fear, the king of antimormon slur Is here to expose the aready bad name of mormonism all over the place and Im here to make it twice as bad. If you have any questions regarding mormonism you can ask me, because unlike mormon information man, Dr billy dosent change the subject and share an unrelated spiritual passage, or dodge the questions because Dr Billy favours the facts, and its all for free courtesy of the good lord. (mormon preaching not welcome) praise jesus…
March 10th, 2010 at 10:16 am
[..YouTube..] You follow a church started by a convicted con artist, and respond to any provable claims made about him with “That’s just an anti [name of church started by convicted con artist] lie!”
You certainly have no room to call anyone else irrational.
March 10th, 2010 at 11:32 am
[..YouTube..] HOW Joe got ideas for the BoM
Lehi is from the Old Testament, Judges 15:9,14 and 19.
Nephi is from the King James Version of the Apocrypha, II Maccabees 1:36.
Enos is taken from Genesis 4:26.
Zenos was in use prior to the Book of Mormon as a person’s name. Zenos Riggs is listed in the 1873 Hanover, New Jersey census. Zenos Gurley, Sr., was born in 1801 at Bridgewater, New York, and later joined Mormonism. There is also Zenas in the New Testament, Titus 3:13.
Hey this is easy!
March 10th, 2010 at 11:33 am
[..YouTube..] It is really simple
Joe was a GREAT STORY TELLER
March 10th, 2010 at 11:41 am
[..YouTube..] HOW? SIMPLE
OUCH! AT LEAST 141 of the names in the BoM were simply TAKEN (stolen – it seems from the evidence that the whole thing is a SHAM) FROM the HOLY Bible
BoM has Abraham, Ammon, Bethabara, Esrom, Ether, Gomorrah, Ishmael, Jared, Jonas, Judea, Lemuel, Madmenah, Nazareth, Pathros, Pekah, Rama, Shinar, Sinim and Zebulun.
March 10th, 2010 at 12:20 pm
[..YouTube..] NEVER convicted and NEVER a con artist. Which makes JS the OPPOSITE Of you!
March 10th, 2010 at 12:21 pm
[..YouTube..] Casserole fear: “I’m Pretty Much the Worst Mormon Ever” declares this blogger before hilariously describing her attempts at making a casserole to help feed the homeless. Just as a taste, here is a bit of her phone conversation from the grocery store. Blogger: “‘What kind of pasta should I use? Egg noodles, rotini, radiatore…’” Friend on phone: “*Snicker* What kind of pasta…EGG NOODLES.” And be sure to scroll through the comments from both casserole haters and lovers.
March 10th, 2010 at 12:22 pm
[..YouTube..] LDS security halts armed man at Salt Lake City parking facility
March 10th, 2010 at 12:24 pm
[..YouTube..] *NEVER convicted and NEVER a con artist. Which makes JS the OPPOSITE Of you!*
Justice Albert Neely would beg to differ.
I’ve never been convicted of anything and I don’t con people.
March 10th, 2010 at 6:08 pm
[..YouTube..] You’re just a nigger. Just like that cock sucking faggot Smith. Yeah. I believe he was gay. You are wrong! Because I said so! LOLOLOL
March 10th, 2010 at 7:14 pm
[..YouTube..] @billymeier182
don’t mention my name anywhere near yours you idiot..
March 11th, 2010 at 1:43 am
[..YouTube..] typical ANTImormon garbage!
March 11th, 2010 at 1:43 am
[..YouTube..] Late last year, he found out.
Broadbent and his wife, Marilyn, who live in Logan, Utah, were able to make e-mail contact with Francesconi. What they learned surprised and delighted them.
March 11th, 2010 at 1:43 am
[..YouTube..] “I had always wondered what happened to him,” Curtis Broadbent said in January, the day before he and Francesconi would come face to face for the first time in more than 45 years
March 11th, 2010 at 1:44 am
[..YouTube..] Before a fireside at the Sao Paulo Institute of Religion for a group of former missionaries touring Brazil, the Broadbents were standing outside the building when Francesconi and his wife, Francily, walked up. The Broadbents turned around, and both couples recognized each other
March 11th, 2010 at 2:04 am
[..YouTube..] @wtalady drop dead you brainwashed robot.
March 11th, 2010 at 7:54 am
[..YouTube..] @TheDickPrick with all the women joe smith was marring himself to Im surprised there havent been any gay alergations as of yet, the youngest was 14, the second youngest was 16 and he was rumoured to have 50… but proven to have 34
March 11th, 2010 at 2:30 pm
[..YouTube..] No one said J smith wasn’t a great storyteller, and no one saying the man wasn’t brilliant and very astute. Most con men are brilliant. And whose to say he didn’t research anything? Whose to say he didn’t have the lines read back to him? whose to say he didn’t write it out in advance, then pretend to translate it? And most of the scripture that is unique to mormons, has been proven to be false. It would have taken alot of time. and a gullible audience. Smith had both
March 11th, 2010 at 3:32 pm
[..YouTube..] epic win.
March 11th, 2010 at 8:28 pm
[..YouTube..] Why the “mormon sales pitch” in the info box? It’s no secret Joe was a great story teller as well as a con man with quite a passion for religious fervor. How is it outlandish he made the whole thing up? With years following to revise the story. He could have been just a genius of religious synthesis and fabrication. BTW Joe didn’t die because of his faith in the fictitious religious novel he wrote. Don’t believe the wives tale, research the church history.
March 11th, 2010 at 8:29 pm
[..YouTube..] Finally something accurate. It’s certainly not a tool of fact.
March 11th, 2010 at 8:32 pm
[..YouTube..] @praestant8
In my research I found independent accounts from people saying how Joseph Smith had performed many healing miracles similar to that in the new testament through laying on of hands. He cured deafness, severe illness like cholorea on several people, and the accounts are all genuine, I ask you do supernatural healing miracles sound like the work of a conman and a liar to you?
LDSapologist71
FAIRLDSdotORG
March 11th, 2010 at 8:33 pm
[..YouTube..] @praestant8
Well it’s true, they bash and talk trash and make false truths and lies about us. The facts still remain facts. Jesus Christ started a church with a Foundation of Apostles with authority to recieve the revelation to lead His sheep. But that foundation was killed off and the Apostacy begun.
Joseph Smith restrored the gospel of Jesus Christ and the Lord Commanded it to be so. The restoration is biblical.
March 11th, 2010 at 8:37 pm
[..YouTube..] The bible is only correct when revisions justifying Joe Smiths fiction were added in to the Bible by… Joe Smith? Do you not see the fanatical pathology here? If you ask a thief caught for robbery if he’s guilty do you think he’s going to say “yes you better lock me up.” Please, there’s no difference between the average criminal and Joe Blow. Smith.
March 12th, 2010 at 12:03 pm
[..YouTube..] LDSa..71, would way that well we don’t think all of the original documents Joe had have been found so therefore the real papyrus is still out there “waiting to prove the truth of Mormonism” and Joe. Just like there is still evidence of the BoM cities “waiting to be found to prove it’s true.” The FACT is there is no more proof of Mormonism than anything else.
March 12th, 2010 at 12:41 pm
[..YouTube..] The Book of Mormon clearly testifies of JS’s prophetic role. With all of the many Hebrew linguistic and culture elements that would have been unbeknownst to Joseph and others in his day, it is clear that he did not write that book, nor did anyone else of that time. The evidence for its antiquity is astounding and continues to grow, and the critics can’t do anything but shy away from it.
March 12th, 2010 at 12:42 pm
[..YouTube..] And I love how the critics also clearly avoid the evidence put forth in this video.
March 12th, 2010 at 1:08 pm
[..YouTube..] Why is it that false christianity needs analogies like an egg, a triangle, or water in its three phases to EXPLAIN thier 3-headed god?..can you point to just ONE place in the Bible where ANY of the prophets or apostles use these very analogies or ANY analogies for that matter to explain the GODHEAD?..well?
Guess your “god” is not found in the bible huh?
March 12th, 2010 at 1:08 pm
[..YouTube..] Tell me,
We learn that ONLY the Father knows of end of the world not the angels or even JESUS knows this according to the bible…so if they share the same MIND – which “is” trinatarian theology..then how can this be?
Ever think that your Hellenized god could be just that..a god made up by wicked men to destroy people’s faith in the TRUE GOD..as we learn..it is LIFE ETERNAL to know who GOD “&” Jesus Christ is..God is not supposed to be a mystery like you trinitarians teach…
March 12th, 2010 at 1:09 pm
[..YouTube..] LDS THEOLOGY(that has NEVER changed):
The Father = Fully GOD
The Son (Jehovah/Jesus) = Fully GOD
The Holy Spirit = Fully GOD
THREE seperate GODS worthy of worship, yet we pray to the FATHER GOD in the NAME of JESUS CHRIST and receive confirmation by the Holy Ghost.
TITLES like : Eternal Father or LORD can be applied to both the FATHER GOD and JESUS, Elohim also …these are “TITLES” in MOST cases we LDS know that Lord is Jehovah/Jesus as Elohim is the Father
March 12th, 2010 at 1:09 pm
[..YouTube..] In LDS theology we say that The Father, Son and Holy Ghost are ONE in PURPOSE not BEING…this GODHEAD is what we LDS say constitutes “ONE GOD” – a unity of GODS who are ALL FULLY GOD working as ONE unit in a GODHEAD.
March 12th, 2010 at 1:10 pm
[..YouTube..] If God was just Spirit …
And..if you accept the “INCARNATION” then you too accept that Jesus was once a Spirit who then became man..who then became GOD.
Now if you say GOD is “JUST” Spirit. with no body now then you fall under the CONDEMNATION of 1 John 4 :1-4 of being the ANTI-CHRIST..which says Christ came not in a body. Your theology TEACHES GOD IS “JUST” SPIRIT..now my question to you is..did Jesus then give up his physical body at death?..does God have a body?
March 12th, 2010 at 1:11 pm
[..YouTube..] RE: Isa. 43:10
The Jews were first polytheistic then they shifted to henotheism then later into monotheism in the context of thier Babylonian captivity. In this CONTEXT it was the practice of the time in Babylon to have a community altar to put all the IDOLS which were “FORMED” (of wood/silver/gold) on this altar..Jehovah’s idol also was put on this altar. Jehovah said that this should not be the case to put “BEFORE” HIM these FALSE gods.
That is the context. FALSE gods
March 12th, 2010 at 1:12 pm
[..YouTube..] The deity of Jesus Christ was decided upon by a vote . A few hundred church leaders gathered at Nicea in 325 AD. to vote on the matter. (the vote was loaded, because most of the opposing bishops were either KILLED or EXHILED or excluded!) Representation for the TRUTH about the Godhead was allowed by only a small fraction of those TRUE Christians…we lost the TRUTH then to the pagan trinity of man.
March 12th, 2010 at 1:12 pm
[..YouTube..] Jesus’ own words on the false “christian” churches of men and thier CREEDS:
JS-H 1: 19
I was answered that I must join none of them, for they were all wrong; and the Personage who addressed me said that all their creeds were an abomination in his sight; that those professors were all corrupt; that: they draw near to me with their lips, but their hearts are far from me, they teach for doctrines the commandments of men, having a form of godliness, but they deny the power thereof.
March 12th, 2010 at 1:20 pm
[..YouTube..] According to the Spalding-Rigdon theory, which has a fair amount of evidence supporting it, Joseph Smith didn’t even write the Book of Mormon. The theory says that Solomon Spalding wrote a historical novel called “Manuscript Found” which was taken by Sidney Rigdon after Spalding’s death. Rigdon then added all of the theology to it (with the assistance of Oliver Cowdery) and finished the Book of Mormon. According to the theory, Joseph Smith was just the front man.
March 12th, 2010 at 1:23 pm
[..YouTube..] The hardest part of me becoming a member was excepting the fact that Joseph was a Prophet of God.
Christ’s True Church could not have existed before 1790, and even with “Freedom of Relgion,” Joseph was still SLAUGHTERED.
The Church is true…..
March 12th, 2010 at 2:13 pm
[..YouTube..] Unfortunately for those critics, both theories have been debunked or shown to be nonsensical in light of the evidence.
When one looks at the plethora of Hebrew textual and cultural evidences in the book of Mormon, things that neither Joseph nor anyone in his day would have known, it becomes clear that it was not written by him or anyone else in that time period but is actually a text from antiquity.
March 12th, 2010 at 2:29 pm
[..YouTube..] Please refer me to the evidence. Where can I read more about it?
March 12th, 2010 at 3:43 pm
[..YouTube..] @educheny
youtube video v=_FxK672uQEo
March 12th, 2010 at 4:04 pm
[..YouTube..] AMERICANTESTAMENTdotBLOGSPOTdotCOM
March 12th, 2010 at 5:15 pm
[..YouTube..] American Testament blog is great, as are Rommelator’s videos. A lot of the Hebraisms( Hebrew evidences) can be found on come to zarahelma. org click on the Unlock the Seals tab and go to where it says “hebraisms in the book of mormon.” Feel free to peruse the other info on that site.
March 12th, 2010 at 5:16 pm
[..YouTube..] And if you would like more on the Spaulding/Rigdon Theory, look on FAIRLDS. org.
They have great stuff on that, as well as many other common criticisms.
March 12th, 2010 at 5:41 pm
[..YouTube..] @StorminMormin91
It’s amazing how they keep rehashing old news even though it’s been refuted over 150 years ago.
March 12th, 2010 at 5:44 pm
[..YouTube..] @brian8793
It would have been nice if the church existed in its fullness all along. We’d STILL have other churches claiming to be his but the sad fact that there was an Apostasy, it really made things difficult. What I find astonishing is that somehow, even though ancient Israel had their own sort of Apostasy, they had no trouble following Moses.
What most people fail miserably to acknowledge is that Moses was a prophet of the RESTORATION during his day.
We trust that he revealed the truth!
March 12th, 2010 at 5:47 pm
[..YouTube..] @imtherealthing
It’s amazing how Jesus pointed out that it was the professors who were corrupt. Indeed, in our day, a man goes to Seminary to get a diploma to then be allowed or given authority to act in Gods name? When did God set up the seminary? He apparently did not!
They profess to have his authority and the word profess = to lay claim to, often insincerely; pretend to
No man takes this honor unto himself!
The Bible is quite clear on that but it gets roundly ignored!
(Hebrews 5:1,4)
March 12th, 2010 at 5:52 pm
[..YouTube..] @educheny
Why can’t they stick with one theory?
They say he wrote it… they say he didn’t write it… They say it was inspired by the Devil.
They say it was inspired by God but that Joseph Smith is a fallen prophet…
One by one they’ve all been refuted…
One by one, each time someone reads it and does so free from this sort of commentary may actually be found humble enough to receive their answers from God because that is who bears witness of all truth!
(1 John 5:5-6)
March 12th, 2010 at 5:58 pm
[..YouTube..] Meh, it’s understandable, since a lot of them don’t really look too deeply into the subject, and just keep parroting the same old arguments.
Nibley wrote a great book called “The Myth Makers” that talks about all of the oldest criticisms against Joseph Smith and his character and refutes them in a very unique way. It may be out of print, but if you can find it I recommend it.
March 12th, 2010 at 6:39 pm
[..YouTube..] The reason why I mentioned the Spalding-Rigdon theory is because this video uses Joseph Smith’s age, lack of education, etc. as evidence for divine intervention. I wanted to point out that this argument is a non-sequitur since there are other theories that don’t involve Joseph Smith.
As for all of these theories being refuted, that’s what I’m going to look into now that I have references (thanks everyone).
March 12th, 2010 at 10:12 pm
[..YouTube..] wild flowers fade quickly, but a blooming idiot is forever…..
March 13th, 2010 at 10:29 am
[..YouTube..] @brian8793
it is ALL about Joe not Jesus
“It is because the Lord called Joseph Smith that salvation is again available to mortal men…. If it had not been for Joseph Smith and the restoration, there would be no salvation,” -Bruce McConkie, Mormon Doctrine, p. 396, 670
“I know that Joseph Smith is a Prophet of God, that this is the Gospel of salvation, and if you do not believe it you will be damned, every one of you” (B Young Journal of Discourses 4:298, March 29, 1857)
March 13th, 2010 at 10:30 am
[..YouTube..] Joseph Smith created the name “Cumorah” through his study of the treasure hunting stories of Capt. W. Kidd. Capt. Kidd was said to have buried treasure in the Comoros islands, Smith used the name of the islands & applied it to the hill where he found buried treasure, the golden plates. Moroni is the name of the capital city!
March 13th, 2010 at 10:33 am
[..YouTube..] What was source for Joes FISH STORY?
… I went into the woods… a light appeared from heaven… My mind seemed to rise in that light to the throne of God and the Lamb… The Lamb once slain appeared …It is not possible to tell you how long I remained in that situation.
The Life, Coversion Preaching Travels & Sufferings of Elias Smith p58-59 1816
March 13th, 2010 at 10:35 am
[..YouTube..] The LDS Historian B H Roberts concluded that View of the Hebrews had been published FIRST that the possibility that Smith had access to it was “a very close certainty,” and that there were MANY similarities between the works
see Roberts Studies Book of Mormon p 235
March 13th, 2010 at 10:37 am
[..YouTube..] IT ALL ORIGINATED INSIDE JOES MIND
… was Joseph Smith possessed of a sufficiently vivid and creative imagination as to produce such a work as the Book of Mormon from such materials as have been indicated in the preceding chapters …? That such power of IMAGINATION would have to be of a high order is conceded; that Joseph Smith possessed such a gift of MIND there can be NO QUESTION (LDS Historian B H Roberts Studies, p. 243).
March 13th, 2010 at 1:15 pm
[..YouTube..] Isaiah 29:13
The Lord said, Forasmuch as this people draw near me with their mouth, and with their lips do honour me, but have removed their heart far from me, and their fear toward me is taught by the precept of men.
(and not apostles and prophets)
the Catholic/Orthodox has neither of those.
Ephesians 3:11-14 Apostles and prophets are to be part of the true church of CHRIST until the second coming.
March 13th, 2010 at 1:36 pm
[..YouTube..] We believe that through the atonement of Christ all mankind may be saved by obedience to the laws and ordinances of the Gospel.
March 13th, 2010 at 2:02 pm
[..YouTube..] I testify that the Book of Mormon is of divine origin and all mankind shall be judged by the testimony it gives. Its coming forth was in fact foretold in the Bible in Isaiah 29:11-12; by foretelling the conversation between Martin Harris & Professor Charles Anthon documented in [THE PEARL OF GREAT PRICE] Joseph Smith History 1:63-65.
March 13th, 2010 at 5:44 pm
[..YouTube..] People will find whatever they are looking for. And as much as you may want to, you can’t force someone to see what you see, even sometimes when your looking at the same object. “Don’t lay too much by your perspective; it may have a different view on a different day”. Brilliant video
very thought provoking
March 14th, 2010 at 4:15 pm
[..YouTube..] Actually, Roberts was simply playing devils advocate.
And the truth is that Joseph only had such a powerful mind much after the Book of Mormon was published, due to the inspiration of the almighty. B . H. Roberts died with a full testimony of JS as a prophet and of the Book of Mormon as being the word of God. You have no idea of the circumstances around any of these statements. I suggest you read about it in the book “Book of Mormon Authorship: New Light on Ancient Origins”
March 14th, 2010 at 4:17 pm
[..YouTube..] No one doubts that many people have claimed to have visions. But were any of them told to restore the Church to the earth. Did any of them, other than Joseph Smith, actually bring forth evidence of their divine mission in the form of an actual ancient record of scripture? You’d be hard pressed to find that anywhere else.
March 14th, 2010 at 9:07 pm
[..YouTube..] I’ve read the “View of the Hebrews”, and it’s extremely unremarkable. It contains a bunch of conjectures about the fate of the 10 lost tribes of Israel: that they wound up in the Americas lived in walled cities, etc. some of which are similar to the Book of Mormon, but conjecturing about the possible fate of the 10 tribes was a popular pastime in Joseph Smith’s day and “The View of the Hebrews” turns out to be a major letdown after reading reading B.H. Roberts’ claims about it.
March 14th, 2010 at 11:21 pm
[..YouTube..] AFA LDS are concerned one must be able to Identify every single deatail in other peoples visions before we can suspect that joe palgarized parts of those other vision accounts
March 15th, 2010 at 11:55 am
[..YouTube..] The largest pyramid in the world is not in Egypt, but is covered in jungle in Guatemala. Built by a king after the order of Pharoah, and not some chief in a hut. The legend of Quetzacoatl was born in Guatemala that a “white bearded God” appeared to them and taught them.
I testify to you that it was the resurrected Christ that taught the descendants of the Maya. The Maya practiced baptism, circumcision on thier men, and sacrifice when the Catholic Spanish found them. John 10:16
March 16th, 2010 at 4:00 am
[..YouTube..] If joe smith was alive and you were a mormon, he would be looking at your wife, and your daughter… case closed…
March 16th, 2010 at 4:18 am
[..YouTube..] f.y.i…… it’s Ephesians 4:11-14.
March 17th, 2010 at 3:18 am
[..YouTube..] I am very surprised, as an self proclaimed anti-Mormon that you aren’t claiming that Joseph Smith is still alive, today.
Maybe this “theory” will soon be espoused as all other deranged claims have pathetically failed for the last 180 + years.
Do you need another 180 + years, self-proclaimed “intellectual” to find the “nail in the coffin” for the Lord’s Church? Well?
March 17th, 2010 at 3:22 am
[..YouTube..] I testify that the Book of Mormon is of divine origin and all mankind shall be judged by the testimony it gives. Its coming forth was in fact foretold in the Bible in Isaiah 29:11-12; by foretelling the conversation between Martin Harris & Professor Charles Anthon documented in [THE PEARL OF GREAT PRICE] Joseph Smith History 1:63-65.
March 17th, 2010 at 9:45 am
[..YouTube..] @dougdcutler as for you, your problem – brainwashed. Shaun mcraney understands God better than you do… but dont take it personally even though I know you will, your leaders vison on prop 8 didnt work out as planned did it, do you think they antisipated a backlash, was that the vison they saw, i think not, Im not pro gay, although I know your leaders want power, they will only try gaining it in small measures and thats only the beginning, so whats next, whats their next plan or vision.
March 17th, 2010 at 10:51 am
[..YouTube..] @billymeier182
LOL
what kind of delusional world do you live in?
Shawn McCraney is nothing more than a shill puppet of Satan.
March 17th, 2010 at 10:52 am
[..YouTube..] I am suggesting the pope and the priests of the Catholic church are not living the gospel of Jesus Christ, and that the Catholic church is NOT the same organization that Christ set up on the earth. Paul warned in his epistles, that the apostate church could be recognized by refusing some to marry. Could this mean priests? I believe it does.
2 Thesalonians 2:3 For that day [second coming] shall not come except there come a falling away [apostacy] from the truth first.
March 17th, 2010 at 7:06 pm
[..YouTube..] @LDSapologist71 at Shawn McCraney least he isn’t following A false prophet. Your just upset that he points out the flaw’s of Joseph which are many. His own chuch history proves it… And who claims his own works greather than that of Christ. If he had been a real prophet he would have claimed Gods glory not his. Instead he makes him your brother. And tell us you can’t trust THE I AM’S WORD. Who lives in a fairy tale?
March 17th, 2010 at 7:54 pm
[..YouTube..] @billymeier182 lol nice
March 17th, 2010 at 8:50 pm
[..YouTube..] @billymeier182
Well, glad you admit that you aren’t an “intellectual”. Want to also admit you are Godless & gay? Or we going to keep that a “hush”.
Why would I take that personal? Shawn McCraney believes in a 3-headed god. He also believes in the Bible where a 3-headed god is no where found.
What backlash? Church vandalism & more gay mafia parades? Is that your “nail in the coffin”?
The LDS Church has received more support for actually standing for our beliefs. Yes, beliefs not brainwashing.
March 17th, 2010 at 9:02 pm
[..YouTube..] @pappyforyou
At least my dad is bigger than your dad. What is this, recess?
Where did Joseph Smith say he was greater than Jesus Christ? A legit source, not a made up quote from your anti-Mormon mills. Well?
Of course you want to act as an “expert” and “authority” to speak for our doctrines on you-tube, but all you are is a lying, amateur anti-Mormon who cannot leave the Lord’s Church alone.
I mean what would you do? Have an actual life? Pathetic!
March 18th, 2010 at 3:30 am
[..YouTube..] @dougdcutler such venom, what do I know about your church? I was a very good mormon. I paid my tithe, I was in both elder and high priest pres’s and a in the bishoppric. Now you can take it personal that people look at the truth and see it. But I have seen some awful things done with that same priesthood. To be a mormon you first have to believe that joseph was a prophet, that distracts from Christ. history of the church say’s Joseph claimed his works greater than Jesus’s. Why be mean & wrong
March 18th, 2010 at 8:14 am
[..YouTube..] HOW?
Alma’s supposed life and ministry in the Old Testament period of the Book of Mormon are virtually a copy of the life of the Apostle Paul. Typical Pauline expressions are even found on his lips: “faith, hope and charity” (Alma 7:24/I Cor. 13:13), “the power of Christ unto salvation” (Alma 15:6/Rom. 1:16), “without God in the world” (Alma 41:11/Eph. 2:12)
March 18th, 2010 at 8:15 am
[..YouTube..] HOW?
The Indian mounds that dotted western New York were a constant source of speculation during the time Joseph grew up there. It was a common legend that western New York and Ohio had once been the site of a terrible slaughter and that the mounds were the cemeteries of an entire race. In 1821, a Palmyra newspaper stated that diggers on the Erie Canal had unearthed “several BRASS PLATES” along with skeletons and fragments of pottery. (Fawn Brodie, No Man Knows My History, pp. 35-36)
March 18th, 2010 at 8:38 am
[..YouTube..] I testify that the Book of Mormon is of divine origin and all mankind shall be judged by the testimony it gives. Its coming forth was in fact foretold in the Bible in Isaiah 29:11-12; by foretelling the conversation between Martin Harris & Professor Charles Anthon documented in [THE PEARL OF GREAT PRICE] Joseph Smith History 1:63-65.
March 18th, 2010 at 11:00 am
[..YouTube..] The tennents of he church of mormon have all been scientifically disproven. I put forth that if (its a BIG if) the claims in this video are true, its more likely that Smith was a savant than a person who spoke to any deity.
March 18th, 2010 at 2:43 pm
[..YouTube..] @Crosisborg
YOU lying for the LORD TOO?
nice one! now back it up, heathen.
FAIRLDSdotORG
has disproven you lies for decades and your puny arguements don’t hold water.
March 18th, 2010 at 3:53 pm
[..YouTube..] @Crosisborg
“Savant”?
That is a new one.
Do you need another 180 + years to come up with a theory that hasn’t already miserably failed?
Hence the desperation of the new “savant” theory. Next will be the theory that he was an “alien-robot-zombie”. Pathetic!
March 18th, 2010 at 4:04 pm
[..YouTube..] @pappyforyou
Is it “cry me a river” time for saying that you have no life?
If you are going to take that as “venom” or being “mean” then I wouldn’t be trolling LDS videos and telling us that we are “living in a fairy tale” because you might get someone that will say that is “mean”, “venomous” and cry a big river on ya!
Not a good anti-Mormon are you.
Again, show us your source. You keep making up the claim that Joseph Smith claimed he was greater than Jesus Christ. Well? Where is it?
March 18th, 2010 at 7:17 pm
[..YouTube..] Joseph Smith NEVER!! claimed he was greater than Jesus Christ. There is no source that Joseph Smith was a liar, thats all somebody’s opinion and so forth. we don’t think that Joseph Smith was a Modern Day Prophet, we KNOW!! Thats a fact.
March 19th, 2010 at 9:40 am
[..YouTube..] @dougdcutler why are you denying simple facts fucknut, he claimed he had more to boast than any man, just like any other LDS representative you follow their common rule of lie and deny, so go fuck yourself stupid mormon fanatic. think you can lie to people and get away with it, hope you go sleepwalking on the freeway tonight cocksucker, butt-fucker, cuntrammer, you want some more, cause I have just gotten started
March 19th, 2010 at 11:21 am
[..YouTube..] @billymeier182
lol okay big guy. Can’t wait to hear more of your “brilliance” in action Mr. self-proclaimed “intellectual”. LMAO!
In the meantime, I will be waiting for a source that you are completely incapable of providing.
March 19th, 2010 at 6:29 pm
[..YouTube..] @dougdcutler
Well its a better explanation than one that includes diving inspiration or contact since the BS in the boook of mormon has been repeatedly disproven over and over again. Even LDS scholars admit the book of mormon is dead wrong.
March 19th, 2010 at 6:31 pm
[..YouTube..] @LDSapologist71
No lies here. The BOM has been proven to be wrong.
March 19th, 2010 at 6:44 pm
[..YouTube..] @Crosisborg
No lies eh?
The Book of Mormon went through the US court system and it passed. It has withstood all criticism.
Any more blunderous attempts to discredit truth, meat-for-brains?
March 19th, 2010 at 6:46 pm
[..YouTube..] @Crosisborg
Perhaps you think you are not lying, and that may be the case, but it makes more sense you were misinformed. The book of Mormon is true and the word of God.
March 19th, 2010 at 6:53 pm
[..YouTube..] Why can’t they stick with one theory?
They say he wrote it… they say he didn’t write it… They say it was inspired by the Devil.
They say it was inspired by God but that Joseph Smith is a fallen prophet…
One by one they’ve all been refuted…
One by one, each time someone reads it and does so free from this sort of commentary may actually be found humble enough to receive their answers from God because that is who bears witness of all truth!
(1 John 5:5-6)
March 19th, 2010 at 10:12 pm
[..YouTube..] @LDSapologist71
Anything true is easily proven to be true. I now challenge you to prove the BOM is true and the word of any god.
March 19th, 2010 at 10:18 pm
[..YouTube..] And when ye shall receive these things, I would exhort you that ye would ask God, the Eternal Father, in the name of Christ, if these things are not true; and if ye shall ask with a sincere heart, with real intent, having faith in Christ, he will manifest the truth of it unto you, by the power of the Holy Ghost.
Moroni 10:4
March 19th, 2010 at 10:48 pm
[..YouTube..] @Crosisborg
Copying & pasting from anti-Mormon mills is your “proof”?
Let me guess is BH Roberts your “LDS scholar”.
Which goes back to my original point.
Do you need another 180 + years to come up with a theory that hasn’t already miserably failed?
Let me save you time on BH Roberts so you don’t have to regurgitate the same failed theories. Read the introduction to his book and why he wrote it. Are you capable of that? It might take getting off the anti-Mormon mills for a bit, sorry.
March 20th, 2010 at 10:02 am
[..YouTube..] @dougdcutler I have no need to provide it because you and I both know exactly what I am talking about, you have the mentality of a fucking answering machine, is it so hard for you to let go of your cock & stop dribbling shit, it certainly seems so, do you walk around town with a bucket under your mouth to catch it every time you speak. why is it that every time someone talks to a mormon representative they seem to follow a program of speech, designed to impress rather than get to the core truth
March 20th, 2010 at 10:15 am
[..YouTube..] @billymeier182
To interpret your long meaningless rant, you are incapable of providing a source.
Can anyone help out the self-proclaimed “intellectual”? Anyone?
March 20th, 2010 at 11:33 am
[..YouTube..] @dougdcutler
I seriously doubt he can.
March 20th, 2010 at 11:54 am
[..YouTube..] @dougdcutler just like I thought, its impossible for you to let go of your cock.
March 20th, 2010 at 4:52 pm
[..YouTube..] @LDSapologist71 quote all the stupid scripture you want. It doesnt prove anything real except the depth of your delusions
March 20th, 2010 at 5:20 pm
[..YouTube..] Crosisborg and billymeier182 have zero credibility.
Joseph Smith was a true prophet of the LORD GOD of Hosts.
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March 20th, 2010 at 8:21 pm
[..YouTube..] @LDSapologist71
Not a surprise. He is only capable of obsessively talking about male private parts over and over and not providing any source to back up his lying claims.
What a truly brilliant, self-proclaimed “intellectual” he really is. lolz
March 20th, 2010 at 10:53 pm
[..YouTube..] @dougdcutler
The director wanted to cast billymeier and Crosisborg for Dumb and Dumber, but they couldn’t even memorize the lines.
March 20th, 2010 at 11:29 pm
[..YouTube..] aww! Look @ that two gay mormons lds and doug hooking up on youtube . Get a room u two!
March 21st, 2010 at 12:21 am
[..YouTube..] seems like a BIZARRE thing to write.
March 21st, 2010 at 12:21 am
[..YouTube..] A former stake president and a gentle bear of a man, Brother Pacheco answers to Dr. Pacheco inside the clinic. At this moment, duty calls. A young El Alto woman is in the final stages of labor and her baby is ready to make its entrance into the world.
Inside a well-equipped delivery room, Dr. Pacheco offers soothing encouragement to the expectant mother as she endures her final moments of labor pain.
March 21st, 2010 at 12:21 am
[..YouTube..] “Push a little harder — you’re doing great,” he says. “Just one more push.”
And with that, another infant arrives at Los Andes. Good news. It’s a healthy boy with a shock of jet-black hair. Dr. Pacheco congratulates the young woman on her newborn son and places the howling child in his mother’s open arms.
March 21st, 2010 at 2:13 am
[..YouTube..] now THAT! seems like a BIZARRE thing to write.
March 21st, 2010 at 6:34 am
[..YouTube..] Ten sign of a CULT/Dangerous Leader(s)
1. Absolute authoritarianism without meaningful accountability.
2. No tolerance for questions or critical inquiry.
3. No meaningful financial disclosure regarding budget, expenses such as an independently audited financial statement.
4. Unreasonable fear about the outside world, such as impending catastrophe, evil conspiracies and persecutions.
5. There is no legitimate reason to leave, former followers are always wrong in leaving, negative or even evil.
March 21st, 2010 at 9:32 am
[..YouTube..] I testify that the Book of Mormon is of divine origin and all mankind shall be judged by the testimony it gives. Its coming forth was in fact foretold in the Bible in Isaiah 29:11-12; by foretelling the conversation between Martin Harris & Professor Charles Anthon documented in [THE PEARL OF GREAT PRICE] Joseph Smith History 1:63-65.
March 21st, 2010 at 11:09 pm
[..YouTube..] @2NDLTSTEEN
I used the same line with your buddies 0sjvla and Supermonkey. I know, originality is a foreign concept with anti-Mormons. Same old regurgitation.
March 22nd, 2010 at 12:39 am
[..YouTube..] @2NDLTSTEEN
Pro-tip: If you are going to call someone a “moron” then I would use proper grammar first before embarrassing yourself.
It should be “morons are a dying breed”. You are welcome.
“well u mormons ARE a dying breed.
March 22nd, 2010 at 1:16 pm
[..YouTube..] well Mrs “spelling bee” gram,error or not u r still a moron! and according to the comment LSDapologist71 sent me, a fag .. so, I do feel sorry for u..
March 22nd, 2010 at 1:21 pm
[..YouTube..] well u morons are a dying breed… I’m just leaning back and watching u bog yourself down..
happy now?.
March 22nd, 2010 at 7:22 pm
[..YouTube..] @ dougdcutler at it again Doug, Your an idiotic nonsensical defender of crap.
what is …. pro-tip ????
March 23rd, 2010 at 12:25 am
[..YouTube..] @2NDLTSTEEN & @kramd1
Did you both drop out of school or something?
Maybe, this is why you have so much time to browse the anti-Mormon mills and comment obsessively on LDS videos. Comments that are completely incoherent, hence why 2NDLSTEEN just removed his previous comment – it was embarrassing so I understand – no worries.
Pro-tip: Learn what a pro-tip is and go back to school.
March 23rd, 2010 at 12:28 am
[..YouTube..] @kramd1
Pro-tip: If you are going to call someone an “idiot” then at least use proper grammar.
“Your an idiotic nonsensical” should be “you’re” or “you are”. Not complicated at all, then maybe, just maybe you can call someone an idiot without looking like a complete fool. You are welcome.
March 23rd, 2010 at 12:35 am
[..YouTube..] well u morons are a dying breed… I’m just leaning back and watching u bog yourself down.. Happy now? Mrs doug?
March 23rd, 2010 at 1:24 am
[..YouTube..] There is enough contradiction in the book of mormon it would make Karl Rove proud.
Check out ‘20 concerns about mormonism’ on google
March 23rd, 2010 at 7:08 am
[..YouTube..] ye r sorry you already knew. lol
March 23rd, 2010 at 7:38 am
[..YouTube..] @buckfushes
” 20 concerns about mormanism” exert:
“Not until the revelations of Joseph Smith, bringing forth the Book of Mormon, did any one know ….. the Lamanites number about sixty million,… and in all the islands of the sea from Hawaii to New Zealand. The Church is deeply interested in all Lamanites because of these revelations .”
(Spencer W. Kimball, “Of Royal Blood,” Ensign, July 1971, p. 7
March 23rd, 2010 at 7:50 am
[..YouTube..] I am suggesting the pope and the priests of the Catholic church are not living the gospel of Jesus Christ, and that the Catholic church is NOT the same organization that Christ set up on the earth. Paul warned in his epistles, that the apostate church could be recognized by refusing some to marry. Could this mean priests? I believe it does.
2 Thesalonians 2:3 For that day [second coming] shall not come except there come a falling away [apostacy] from the truth first.
March 23rd, 2010 at 1:39 pm
[..YouTube..] Using these conditions, I offer the following criteria for selecting a set of possible days from an 1820 weather diary which would satisfy his statement. Here are the selection criteria:
March 23rd, 2010 at 1:39 pm
[..YouTube..] # “Morning” is a time after sunrise and before midday. This means that I will examine weather conditions which are reported for the morning.
March 23rd, 2010 at 1:39 pm
[..YouTube..] “Beautiful” is an indication of a moderate temperature and no strong wind. I propose to look for mornings when the temperature is higher than 40° Fahrenheit with no strong wind.
March 23rd, 2010 at 6:44 pm
[..YouTube..] Wow, how the fuck do I sign up for this shit?
March 25th, 2010 at 9:22 am
[..YouTube..] why would you make a neg – vote ?
It’s a quote from a mormon prophet .
sixty million is allot of laminates.
March 25th, 2010 at 9:47 pm
[..YouTube..] Sorry I just find it so terribly hard to believe in this man. I think Jos Smith was a fraud! Just try to find one bit of evidence that Jews were here in the new world with the Indians. Years of the Mormons searching and nothing, nada, nenthe, nein just a big O!
March 26th, 2010 at 2:23 am
[..YouTube..] so once we show you that Jews were in the New World, you will convert to the Church of Jesus Christ?
March 26th, 2010 at 2:23 am
[..YouTube..] His prayers about what to do were partially answered when Northwestern, located in Evanston, Ill., just outside Chicago, came forward and offered him a wrestling scholarship.
March 26th, 2010 at 2:23 am
[..YouTube..] Levi Mele married Shanna Northcott in the Salt Lake Temple on May 6, 2009.
March 26th, 2010 at 7:00 pm
[..YouTube..] there will never be any historical,archaeological,genealogical evidence for mormanism, cause it is a lie.
March 27th, 2010 at 2:34 am
[..YouTube..] I love the Gospel. I am so thankful for the Prophet Joseph Smith.
March 27th, 2010 at 1:40 pm
[..YouTube..] strange FAIR and the maxwell institute have discovered evidence in all of those areas…
March 27th, 2010 at 10:45 pm
[..YouTube..] mormons are at it again trying to convert people to falsehood, joseph smith had 34 wives but was rumoured to have 50, married a 14 yr old girl, and a 16 yr old girl.
March 27th, 2010 at 11:18 pm
[..YouTube..] @billymeier
you have a huge imagination. You just keep lying about us all you want.
According to D&C 121 we are blessed more every time you do.
Joseph Smith was a true prophet of JESUS CHRIST
March 28th, 2010 at 2:19 am
[..YouTube..] @LDSapologist71 first of all joseph smiths polygamy was not a lie, and second, Im not the one lying, your leaders are. as for the D&C, its a fabrication.
March 28th, 2010 at 2:36 am
[..YouTube..] If I really wanted to lie I could say that Thomas s monsoon eats little children and worships satan, but I see no point, Joseph smith was wrong, and he did expose himself for what he was, for a better history on mormonism can be found in ‘the nineteenth wife’ by Anne eliza young.
March 28th, 2010 at 8:42 am
[..YouTube..] HOW?
Some Good Church ARTwork & a VIVID IMAGINATION!
“I shall hold that what is here presented illustrates sufficiently the matter taken in hand by referring to them, namely that they are all of one breed and brand; so nearly alike that ONE MIND is the AUTHOR of them, and that a young and undeveloped, but piously inclined mind. The EVIDENCE I SORROWFULLY SUBMIT points to Joseph Smith as their CREATOR”
LDS Historian – B H Roberts Studies P 271
March 28th, 2010 at 8:43 am
[..YouTube..] @lonelygiant5000
It is the Gospel of Jesus Christ not the gospel of Joe
March 28th, 2010 at 9:41 am
[..YouTube..] @bdplist & billymeier182
The reality of the situation is you both represent Satan. You fight the church of Christ just like the Pharisees tried their best to stop Jesus Christ. This is his church and Joseph Smith is his annointed. You both will be found on the left hand of God come judgement day.
March 28th, 2010 at 9:52 am
[..YouTube..] In my research I found independent accounts from people saying how Joseph Smith had performed many healing miracles similar to that in the new testament through laying on of hands. He cured deafness, severe illness like cholorea on several people, and the accounts are all genuine, I ask you do supernatural healing miracles sound like the work of a conman and a liar to you?
LDSapologist71
FAIRLDSdotORG
March 28th, 2010 at 11:19 am
[..YouTube..] All the media of coverage of the exact diocese that the current pope was in charge of looked the other way in the face of the letters complaining that one of his own bishops sexually molested some two hundred boys and girls and got away with it for years, because they were deaf. It’s the most disgusting thing I’ve heard, and for them to have the gaul to point fingers at Joseph Smith at this point is a foregone conclusion. By their fruits we all know the RCC is EVIL.
March 28th, 2010 at 10:54 pm
[..YouTube..] Fair and Maxwell institute don’t have proof of anything that supports Joseph Smiths lies.
March 29th, 2010 at 9:47 am
[..YouTube..] @schaelakhan
Nahum = PROOF, bud
try doing alittle real research.
Joseph Smith was absolutely God’s annointed prophet.
March 29th, 2010 at 1:36 pm
[..YouTube..] @LDSapologist71 As a former Mormon I can say with a surety that I have done the research and there is ample evidence to suggest the book was fabricated. I would ask anyone to Google what Mark Twain had to say about the book of mormon. He was spot on. If Joseph was reading from a novel which he modified then the translation would be seamless. And remember, there was no translation from Golden Plates. It was all done from a stone in a hat. Google it!
March 29th, 2010 at 1:49 pm
[..YouTube..] Not all. The stones worked fine without the hat. The stones worked based on faith in Christ and righteous living. The plates Were real. On the tombstone of David Whitmer it reads “The record of the Nephites and the Jews are ONE.”
nuff said.
March 29th, 2010 at 1:50 pm
[..YouTube..] LDS4LIFE!
March 29th, 2010 at 6:23 pm
[..YouTube..] “We’ve raised quite a bit for that young girl and her family,” Unga said, “and we still have a few more weeks left to raise some money. I think we’re still going to continue to help the family as much as possible, even after her surgery.”
So far, Power in 1 has raised about $2,000 for Elizabeth through raffles for BYU sports items and a benefit concert at the Springville Arts Museum.
March 29th, 2010 at 8:11 pm
[..YouTube..] Nephites, Jaredites, Lamanites, Mulekites are fictional tribes. Moroni is not real or a fallen angel one. Reformed Egyptian how silly nothing. Even if these fake lost tribes existed why is thier historical account in any form of Egyptian. There is no evidence other than Mormanism is an unfortunate accident.
March 30th, 2010 at 4:03 pm
[..YouTube..] @Aftersteering
You want to explain why this quote is not found in “Mormon Doctrine”? Are you not embarrassed in lying against the Lord’s Church?
March 30th, 2010 at 4:05 pm
[..YouTube..] @Aftersteering
“Wow”? That is pretty dramatic.
Are you not embarrassed for copying and pasting a made up quote? Look at the quote carefully that you just copied and pasted from your anti-Mormon mill.
Please tell us where you found this quote? If you go to page 158 you see no such quote. You only see a statement in reference to the people in the Book of Mormon being a “barbarous and uncivilized brethren”.
Don’t get you started? You mean you are going to copy and paste more lies? Lolz
March 30th, 2010 at 4:08 pm
[..YouTube..] @Aftersteering
Research what reformed Egyptian means. You can even use your Google source for this if you need. I even have a few videos on the subject for your perusal.
The English language was derived from Egyptian so hence it is a from of reformed Egyptian.
If that is impossible to grasp, I completely understand so no worries.
Lanny Bell a non-LDS Egyptologist agrees with Joseph Smith’s translation. You sure you want to deride me as “ignorant”?
March 30th, 2010 at 4:11 pm
[..YouTube..] @Aftersteering
Who is embarrassed that he had multiple wives? And why do you conveniently leave out that the legal age of marriage at the time was 12?
Is there anything new you have instead of the same regurgitation that you just copy and past? Nope.
You fail as a researcher. You are only capable of copying and pasting.
March 30th, 2010 at 4:13 pm
[..YouTube..] @Aftersteering
Of course I LMAO. Who wouldn’t laugh at your “exponential rate” of 30 people. I am still chuckling!
I do appreciate the laugh, but this is no conversation. You bring absolutely nothing to the table to actually “discuss”. Continue as you may, but lets not forget the obvious.
March 30th, 2010 at 4:18 pm
[..YouTube..] @Aftersteering
Confound? Sad that you really believe this. And I believe you really believe that you are doing this. It makes the guilt go away doesn’t it?
You have clearly shown you have nothing to bring to the table other than copying and pasting from anti-Mormon mills. And as has been shown, the quotes were made up or conveniently changed out of context.
How about letting us know the real reason why you left the Church? It is obvious.
March 30th, 2010 at 4:25 pm
[..YouTube..] Oh Doug. Everything I have quoted below is documented. Yet you have quoted nothing factual at all. And why do you keep assuming you know why I left the church? What if I didn’t leave at all? And furthermore I never said 30 people represented a mass exodus. You don’t even know what’s going on do you? Are you familiar with church growth rates here in the US? Actually the church is shrinking in the US. It’s growth of about 1.5% is coming from beyond the promised land. Care to research that?
March 30th, 2010 at 4:28 pm
[..YouTube..] You are in a box. I chose to leave the box. That’s my God-given right. To be a member of your church does not preclude me from being a super person and eligible for all that God has to offer. Why do you assume you are a part of the elitist and basically trodden any non-believer under foot? You are a walking hypocrite in all of your dealings. It’s evident in your words.
March 30th, 2010 at 6:43 pm
[..YouTube..] @Aftersteering
No, everything you “quoted” was a lie as I showed above, but nice try.
I am not assuming. You clearly stated “as a former Mormon” and you avoid telling why you really left.
You also said “Departing at an exponential rate” followed by “30 people meeting in a coffee shop” lolz
Hate to break the news, but the growth rate still remains a positive rate. Unless of course you’re still going to resort to copying and pasting from your brilliant anti-Mormon mills which didn’t work.
March 30th, 2010 at 6:46 pm
[..YouTube..] @Aftersteering
Aww do you feel picked on for being called out on your lies? Cry me a river.
I see right through your lies so you might have fooled yourself, but that is as far as it goes.
End of story.
March 30th, 2010 at 7:02 pm
[..YouTube..] Aftersteering just showed us all what it means to be pwned!
March 30th, 2010 at 7:15 pm
[..YouTube..] @dougdcutler
LDS can not even fill General Conference like the old days
March 30th, 2010 at 7:27 pm
[..YouTube..] @dougdcutler
LOL Lanny Bell?
“From the evidence that we have today, its quite safe to say that Joseph Smith did not have the Book of Abraham or the Book of Joseph in front of him in the form of these papyri because they bear no relationship to the contents of the stories or to his translation.” -Lanny Bell
March 30th, 2010 at 8:05 pm
[..YouTube..] @bdplist
If you have been following the facsimile debate, Joseph Smith was accused of not getting one translation correct. Lanny Bell disproved that theory even though he doesn’t believe that Joseph Smith was a prophet.
Is that hard to grasp? If so, feel free to my playlist videos on the subject. Or go to the source and see Bell’s “The Ancient Egyptian – Books of Breathings, Book of Abraham”.
Now continue with regurgitated obsession by copying and pasting on LDS videos.
March 30th, 2010 at 8:11 pm
[..YouTube..] @dougdcutler
Reference & or quote?
March 30th, 2010 at 8:46 pm
[..YouTube..] @bdplist
I just gave you the exact source. Try reading the entire article and not bits and pieces that you have a tendency to do. Unless that is completely impossible.
I also gave you the option to view the videos on my playlist on the subject. The quotes are given in them.
March 30th, 2010 at 11:01 pm
[..YouTube..] The first Mormon prophet, Joseph Smith, was arrested and convicted in New York and was found guilty of being a con-artist, an impostor — he was a necromancer and a charlatan. This conviction was four years before he published the Book of Mormon! Court documents prove he was a convicted criminal.
March 30th, 2010 at 11:04 pm
[..YouTube..] Joseph Smith said that the moon was inhabited by people six feet tall who dressed like Quakers and lived to be 1,000 years old (Source: Journal of Oliver B. Huntington, a devout Mormon contemporary of Joseph Smith; copy at Utah State Historical Society, Vol. 2, p. 166). Smith said the “gulf stream” was the result of the city of Enoch’s being taken out from the place where the gulf of Mexico is.
March 30th, 2010 at 11:47 pm
[..YouTube..] @dougdcutler
Your funny!
I gave you the article read the whole thing i think it is in there somewhere LOL
March 31st, 2010 at 12:28 am
[..YouTube..] @2NDLTSTEEN
Funny how you call Joseph Smith a prophet and a “con-artist” in the same sentence. The copying and pasting from anti-Mormon mills sometimes misses those contradictions.
Speaking of “proving”, where is the court document? After all, it is public record. Anyone able to help 2NDLTSTEEN in his “noble” venture?
Anyone? Well?
March 31st, 2010 at 12:31 am
[..YouTube..] @2NDLTSTEEN
A devout Mormon’s journal is your source for official LDS doctrine?
March 31st, 2010 at 12:34 am
[..YouTube..] Is it just me or are anti-Mormon mills and those that gravitate to them getting more and more desperate in their miserable attempt to find the nail in the coffin for the LDS Church?
Pro-tip:
For those anti-Mormons who spew lies obsessively, try in the very least researching your sources before embarrassing yourself.
And I know this will fall on deaf ears, but follow the example of Carl Mosser and Paul Owen who are honest critics of the Church.
March 31st, 2010 at 12:40 am
[..YouTube..] @bdplist
Can anyone interpret what bdplist just said?
March 31st, 2010 at 12:57 am
[..YouTube..] Doug I agree . bdplist–must be listening to those voices in his head again. But not the good ones. Repent Bdplist. Throw those sign holding greedy pastors out of your life and ask the Lord humbly for the truth of which church is true. I testify that the Church of Christ was restored to the earth along with the Priesthood by Joseph Smith by the power of God our Heavenly Father and his son Jesus Christ and that the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints is that church restored .
March 31st, 2010 at 2:03 pm
[..YouTube..] I testify that the Book of Mormon is of divine origin and all mankind shall be judged by the testimony it gives. Its coming forth was in fact foretold in the Bible in Isaiah 29:11-12; by foretelling the conversation between Martin Harris & Professor Charles Anthon documented in [THE PEARL OF GREAT PRICE] Joseph Smith History 1:63-65.
April 1st, 2010 at 3:34 pm
[..YouTube..] @bdplist
Nice try, but as a member which you are not – tickets are impossible to get.
Is this what your anti-Mormon mill said and you believed it to be true?
Do you feel “big” to speak for our Church and our doctrines? The copying and pasting is pathetic and you absolutely have no shame for the lies you post, but alas you will continue because you cannot leave it alone, it eats at your corrupt soul.
April 2nd, 2010 at 4:21 am
[..YouTube..] the prophet of islam even had worse conditions that joseph smith, yet he wrote the quran and claimed it’s from god and waged wars to spread it… so following to ur standards and logic, he is to gain credibility as a prophet of god… right?
April 2nd, 2010 at 12:12 pm
[..YouTube..] @manager1111
Using your logic, Mohammad testified of Jesus Christ, fulfilled Biblical prophecies, made the quran a testament of Jesus Christ, saw God and Jesus Christ, suffered persecution for 20+ years, never waged war, but was forced to leave 4 states in a land of liberty and ultimately gave his life for the quran.
There are no comparisons.
The question is, have you read and prayed about the Book of Mormon?
The Book of Mormon is the standard to know if Joseph Smith was a prophet of God.
April 2nd, 2010 at 1:37 pm
[..YouTube..] @dougdcutler
so we agree that the arguments presented in this video are not a logical proof that joseph smith was a prophet…
im an atheist, so i dont believe in god in the first place…
April 2nd, 2010 at 1:58 pm
[..YouTube..] @manager1111
There is no such thing as an “atheist”.
I don’t agree with you comparing Joseph Smith to Mohammad, but no matter how logically sound an argument is – it will never prove the truth to the Godless.
Read the Book of Mormon instead of standing on a one sided, limited view.
April 2nd, 2010 at 3:02 pm
[..YouTube..] @dougdcutler
Atheists exist; many people become atheists after being taught a warped view of the bible which Mormons pound into their heads and discovering that Mormonism is false; I’d be willing to put a fiver down that I have read the BOM more than you, but I am sure that Mormonism is false anyway.
Atheism only requires a lack of belief in something that is unprovable and that requires a great deal of irrationality to believe.
April 2nd, 2010 at 3:07 pm
[..YouTube..] @LDSapologist71 For Isaiah 29 to be talking about something from Mormonism, you would only have to believe that God can’t do chronological order; perhaps you should read it in context and realize that it’s about the Pharisees and Sadducees perverting the law before Jesus came and how anyone who wanted to know the truth was limited by the fact that they couldn’t read.
I thought that Joseph Smith read the Book of Mormon out of a hat; if he read it, verse 12 wasn’t about him.
April 2nd, 2010 at 3:14 pm
[..YouTube..] @LDSapologist71 Anton was not delivered even part of the book, but just a few characters that Joseph Smith copied down . . . can you seriously say that Anton was the guy who could read, to whom the sealed book (not just a few characters from it, but the whole book) was delivered? If that’s the case, who was the guy to whom it was delivered who couldn’t read? Are you going to try to say that the guy who read it out of a hat couldn’t read?
April 2nd, 2010 at 4:11 pm
[..YouTube..] @BaurakAle7
Just because you turn your back on God who created you, doesn’t make you an “atheist”.
It is a false concept that only pacifies guilt and taking personal responsibility.
“Atheism” only exists in your head and self proclaimed “atheists” are only agnostic.
It is like a piece of artwork claiming there was no artistic painter that created them.
Read the Book of Mormon more than me? What is this recess?
Keep trolling away on LDS videos as usual, it won’t take your chip off.
April 2nd, 2010 at 4:18 pm
[..YouTube..] @dougdcutler
Nope; atheism is just the lack of belief in God. Are you saying that anyone who says that they don’t believe in God actually has a belief in God?
Agnostic means that you don’t know; atheism is the lack of a belief in a God. What you are saying is akin to me saying that you believe in Odin, because you can’t prove that he doesn’t exist.
April 2nd, 2010 at 4:24 pm
[..YouTube..] @dougdcutler ANYWAY, I am 100% sure that the bible is the inspired word of God and that the God of the bible exists.
I was just pointing out that your logic only works if you assume quite a few things.
April 2nd, 2010 at 5:08 pm
[..YouTube..] @BaurakAle7
Thank you for the unneeded lesson. You missed my point once again because you are putting words in my mouth. I didn’t use a burden of proof argument.
“Atheism” is a false concept. Saying you have a “lack of belief” in God is still acknowledging that there is a God.
You are better off saying that there is no God. Which I pointed out is completely impossible to do just like the piece of artwork denying his creator.
All you are really doing is trolling. Nothing more.
April 3rd, 2010 at 8:04 am
[..YouTube..] @dougdcutler Failure to acknowledge the existence of a teapot orbiting the sun between the orbits of Mercury and Venus proves that you believe in a teapot orbiting the sun between the orbits of Mercury and Venus, because when you say “I don’t believe in a teapot circling the sun between the orbits of Mercury and Venus, you are still speaking of a teapot between the orbits of Mercury and Venus.
April 3rd, 2010 at 8:07 am
[..YouTube..] I believe in God, but the antiatheistic arguments are patently absurd . . . if an atheist acknowledges anything that is known about how the earth formed, they believe that they can use this to disprove the creation account in Genesis.
I was an hardcore atheist after I learned that Mormonism was false, because they taught me the bible falsely.
April 3rd, 2010 at 12:10 pm
[..YouTube..] @BaurakAle7
now you seriously just need a headscan. Because your ideaology and rhetoric are not in line with the bible, and the LDS church of JESUS CHRIST is absolutely the biblical church to be restored.
April 3rd, 2010 at 12:22 pm
[..YouTube..] @BaurakAle7
Exactly my point thank you.
In an atheists head, they don’t believe in a God. It is their own reality all boxed up in their head, but the true reality is that there is a God despite what they imagine. You personally experienced this false reality.
But who really cares if you were a self-proclaimed “hardcore atheist” – no one asked. You keep stating this like it was a badge of honor under the “persecution” of the LDS Church. lolz
April 4th, 2010 at 2:48 am
[..YouTube..] How can anyone write that??
Lying that’s how!
Fucking Mormons still believe in their shit after seeing their own videos??
Rediculous… White trash religious morons is what they are
April 4th, 2010 at 6:03 pm
[..YouTube..] And there was a breakdown from Within and from without the Original Church, the apostles couldn’t replace the spots fast enough as the people around them were not ready to accept the truth in their day either and the Apostles were killed by wickedness.
Like any structure with no foundation the original church fell into darkness and interpretation of men.
2 Thessalonians 2:1-3, Isaiah 60:2, Amos 8:11
Restoration ?
Isaiah 29:14, Acts 3:21, Revelations 14:6-7 all of Daniel Chapter 2
April 5th, 2010 at 12:47 pm
[..YouTube..] excellent video… thank you very much! I know that the Book of Mormon is true and the gospel that it contains was given to prophets called by God our Heavenly Father… not because I was told, or I heard it… but because the same Holy Ghost taught me about its truth… and no man will ever take away such testimony…
April 6th, 2010 at 4:20 pm
[..YouTube..] @dougdcutler
My favorite LDS “preacher” was Paul H Dunn boy wasnt he the nutz?
April 6th, 2010 at 4:24 pm
[..YouTube..] @wtalady
LOL
U claim, I am listening to voices
Then proclaim that I should listen to yours!
Aren’t you prideful & arrogant?
John 10:27 My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me
April 6th, 2010 at 4:37 pm
[..YouTube..] @bdplist , Great biblical verse…I am not asking you to listen to me but to listen to our Father in Heaven and his Son Jesus Christ. They still give us direction in these latter days. Read the Book of Mormon I testify it will change your life for the better. His church upon the earth today is The Church of Jesus Christ Of Latter Day Saints. You can know these things are true if you ask in faith if they be true in sincere prayer.
April 6th, 2010 at 4:39 pm
[..YouTube..] @bdplist Yes his sheep hear his voice so please start listening and following.
April 6th, 2010 at 4:52 pm
[..YouTube..] @wtalady
Baaaaaaaaaa….
April 6th, 2010 at 4:57 pm
[..YouTube..] @wtalady
Job 35:12 There they cry, but none giveth answer, because of the pride of evil men.
April 6th, 2010 at 10:14 pm
[..YouTube..] HOW?
Simple Joe had an OCCULT SEER (peep) STONE
Joseph Smith would put the seer stone into a hat, and put his face in the hat, drawing it closely around his face to exclude the light; and in the darkness the spiritual light would shine”
(David Whitmer, An Address to All Believers in Christ, Richmond, Mo.: n.p., 1887, p. 12.)”
April 7th, 2010 at 10:01 pm
[..YouTube..] @bdplist I’m looking at the qualifications, or lack there of, to write the BofM and I can see why Tolstoy’s works like “War and Peace” hangs together better as a novel and make better reading And makes more sense….
April 7th, 2010 at 10:04 pm
[..YouTube..] And he gave some apostles and some, prophets…for the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry…Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God…
Ephesians 4:11-14
April 7th, 2010 at 10:04 pm
[..YouTube..] And we talk of Christ, we rejoice in Christ, we preach of Christ, we prophesy of Christ, and we write according to our prophecies, that our children may know to what source they may look for a remission of their sins.
2 Nephi 25:26
April 8th, 2010 at 1:52 am
[..YouTube..] 1 Co 3:11 For other foundation can no man lay than…Jesus Christ
LDS do not have a Apostle, Prophet, Priest & King!
PROPHET: MT 21:11 This is Jesus the prophet
Acts 10:43 To him give? all the prophets witness
PRIEST: HB 5:10 Called of God an high priest
APOSTLE: HB 3;1 consider the Apostle and High Priest of our profession, Christ Jesus
KING: JN 12:15 behold, thy King
1 Tim 1:17 Now unto the King eternal, immortal, invisible, the only wise God
CTR Trust Jesus!
April 8th, 2010 at 8:21 am
[..YouTube..] @bdplist
Trust Jesus (the biblical one, and not the fake mainstream one, that involves the Nicean Creeds)
April 8th, 2010 at 8:23 am
[..YouTube..] And there was a breakdown from Within and from without the Original Church, the apostles couldn’t replace the spots fast enough as the people around them were not ready to accept the truth in their day either and the Apostles were killed by wickedness.
Like any structure with no foundation the original church fell into darkness and interpretation of men.
2 Thessalonians 2:1-3, Isaiah 60:2, Amos 8:11
Restoration ?
Isaiah 29:14, Acts 3:21, Revelations 14:6-7 all of Daniel Chapter
April 8th, 2010 at 8:37 am
[..YouTube..] LDS get their FEELINGS hurt because that is ALL their TESTIMONY hangs on FEELINGS
Mormons bear testimony BECAUSE they have no certain knowledge about the truthfulness of Mormon claims
NO FACTS NO EVIDENCE!
“If we have the truth, it cannot be harmed by investigation. If we have not the truth, it ought to be harmed.” J. Reuben Clark
WHAT R U SO AFRAID OF? – TRUTH?
April 8th, 2010 at 9:34 am
[..YouTube..] Peter 3:20 talks bout all the spirits that waited to hear the gospel of jesus Christ since the day of the great flood so they use their agency to accept it or not. The like figure (AGE) whereunto baptism doth now save us, that is 8 souls.
But c’mon Every knee will bow, every tongue shall confess this about jesus?. Does it not say this?
How could a muslim, buddist, taoist, catholic, protestant, evolutionist, ect ect ect every be included in that wording if it were not true?
April 8th, 2010 at 9:35 am
[..YouTube..] @bdplist
TRUTH is far from anything you preach.
April 8th, 2010 at 11:07 am
[..YouTube..] Jesus IS the Truth
Joe is not TRUTH
Glad to see you deal with the actual issues as usual (not)
Jesus said He IS Truth not he knows truth
He IS the way He IS the life
Want life? It IS Jesus!
Want the way? It IS Jesus!
John 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life
It is NOT Joe & his church
Marion Romney “THIS CHURCH is the ensign on the mountain spoken of by the Old Testament prophets. It is the WAY the TRUTH & the LIFE” Conf. Report Apr 1961 p119
Jesus saves!
April 8th, 2010 at 11:33 am
[..YouTube..] @bdplist
this is the church of Jesus christ, and not Joe, so you are still wrong, and Marion Romney is right.
April 8th, 2010 at 11:41 am
[..YouTube..] @LDSapologist71
Jesus is the WAY the TRUTH & the LIFE
Marion is a LIAR the LDS CHURCH is not the Way the truth & the life that is a BLASPHEMOUS LIE
I prefer to TRUST JESUS not the commands & traditions of fallen men
.
JESUS asked a question:
Matthew 15:3 Why do ye also transgress the commandment of God by your tradition?
April 8th, 2010 at 12:10 pm
[..YouTube..] @bdplist context!
That was words for people that were Pharisees.
April 8th, 2010 at 12:20 pm
[..YouTube..] Present day apostles of Jesus Christ testify of the Savior’s power to heal, change, and purify us through His Atonement.
April 8th, 2010 at 4:09 pm
[..YouTube..] @LDSapologist71
John 7:19 Did not Moses give you the law, and yet NONE OF YOU KEEPeth the law?
Jesus said MT 23:3 they say, and DO NOT.
Talk is cheap costs nutin
April 8th, 2010 at 8:50 pm
[..YouTube..] hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
April 9th, 2010 at 7:41 am
[..YouTube..] HOW?
Use Bible stories as a Guide
Alma’s life and ministry in the Old Testament period of the Book of Mormon are virtually a copy of the life of the Apostle Paul. Typical Pauline expressions are even found on his lips: “faith, hope and charity” (Alma 7:24/I Cor. 13:13), “the power of Christ unto salvation” (Alma 15:6/Rom. 1:16), “without God in the world” (Alma 41:11/Eph. 2:12)
April 9th, 2010 at 7:44 am
[..YouTube..] HOW?
BURIED PLATES
Joe also had access to buried treasure stories thru articles in Canandaigua Ontario Repository on Feb. 9, 1825, and also in the Palmyra Wayne Sentinel on Feb. 16th.
April 9th, 2010 at 9:33 am
[..YouTube..] @bdplist My question to you I have heard this story Antis as well. Was Joseph Smith lazy and never did anything in his life or was he a gold digger all his life? That begs the question which one was true? or our you being told a lie because two stories have been surfaced that are contradictory.
April 9th, 2010 at 11:01 am
[..YouTube..] @BOON70
Joe the Glass Looker (Money Digger) was fraudulently charging charging folks for his services as Treasure Hunter.
He worked for Josiah Stowell for a month & never recovered a thing.
Josiahs son testified against Joe.
On March 20, 1826, Joseph Smith, Jr. was brought before the justice of the peace in Bainbridge, New York. Joseph Smith was found guilty of disturbing the peace.
April 9th, 2010 at 11:03 am
[..YouTube..] @BOON70
The 1826 Bill of Justice Albert Neely was found in the records and says
same
vs
Joseph Smith
The Glass looker
March 20, 1826
April 9th, 2010 at 11:19 am
[..YouTube..] Jospeh Smith believed that the Book of Mormon took place in Central America at least since 1842.
“we have found another important fact relating to the truth of the Book of Mormon. Central America, or Guatemala, is situated north of the Isthmus of Darien and once embraced several hundred miles of territory from north to south.—The city of Zarahemla, burnt at the crucifixion of the Savior, and rebuilt afterwards, stood upon this land”
-Times and Seasons OCT. 1, 1842
April 9th, 2010 at 11:20 am
[..YouTube..] Mormon Apologetic Scholarship and Evangelical Neglect:
Losing the Battle and Not Knowing It?
Carl Mosser and Paul Owen
1997 Evangelical Theological Society Far West Annual Meeting
April 25, 1997
READ IT!
April 9th, 2010 at 11:27 am
[..YouTube..] hey bdplist talk is cheap, costs nothing.
April 9th, 2010 at 11:32 am
[..YouTube..] “We solemnly affirm that The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints is in fact a restoration of the Church established by the Son of God…; that it carries His sacred name, even the name of Jesus Christ
April 9th, 2010 at 11:40 am
[..YouTube..] The church of JESUS CHRIST of Latter Day Saints.
April 9th, 2010 at 11:41 am
[..YouTube..] FAIRLDSdotORG
for the truth
April 9th, 2010 at 2:48 pm
[..YouTube..] Per Gösta Malm was born in Jönköping, Sweden, on 12 September 1948. He married Ingrid Agneta Karlsson in the Bern Switzerland Temple in October 1969. They are the parents of eight children. Elder and Sister Malm reside in Göteborg, Sweden.
April 9th, 2010 at 2:48 pm
[..YouTube..] Elder Jairo Mazzagardi, 62, had been serving as a sealer in the Campinas Brazil Temple when called to serve in the Second Quorum of the Seventy.
April 10th, 2010 at 11:13 am
[..YouTube..] @BOON70
WHO AUTHORized THESE FORGERIES?
text of the Pearl of Great Price was “drastically” altered in 1878:
“Orson Pratt was the Editor of the first American edition of the Pearl of Great Price… The American edition was more DRASTICally CHANGED than any previous publication by a member of the Church.” “A Study of the Changes in the Contents of the Book of Moses” James Harris p226
April 10th, 2010 at 7:24 pm
[..YouTube..] @wtalady i can testify that the quran is the true word of god.i know the quran is true,i know it in my heart.
lol Mohammed and Joseph smith have so much in common……
April 10th, 2010 at 7:25 pm
[..YouTube..] mozart was deaf and wrote some of the best music,is he a prophet also???/
April 11th, 2010 at 1:06 am
[..YouTube..] @lilbeaveymac
I would stick with making your “pimp trax” and “thuggin” videos.
April 11th, 2010 at 3:41 am
[..YouTube..] @lilbeaveymac, I’m so happy you know because you will need all the help you can get.
Mosiah27: 31 Yea, every knee shall bow, and every tongue confess before him. Yea, even at the last day, when all men shall stand to be judged of him, then shall they confess that he is God; then shall they confess, who live without God in the world, that the judgment of an everlasting punishment is just upon them; and they shall quake, and tremble, and shrink beneath the glance of his all-searching eye.
April 11th, 2010 at 12:31 pm
[..YouTube..] @bdplist Which he never served much time for because those who held him knew he was innocent and they knew him as well. Those who guarded him released him.
April 11th, 2010 at 12:32 pm
[..YouTube..] @bdplist But I want to ask since you want to talk about disturbing the peace. What about those people who stand on Temple Square yelling obscenities at people as they pass by?
April 11th, 2010 at 3:01 pm
[..YouTube..] Nice video, thanks for the invite. I see Greemessiah is still poking his head around as BaurakAle7 lol.A living Gadianton.
Keep up the fight brothers
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April 11th, 2010 at 8:24 pm
[..YouTube..] @BOON70
DONT LIE
it is the LDS who yell obscenities on Temple square
Proverbs 19:9 A false witness shall not be unpunished, and he that speaketh lies shall perish.
April 12th, 2010 at 10:06 am
[..YouTube..] @LDS apologist 71 speaking of not being in line with the bible, would you call a religious leader (like joseph smith) a righteous person when he secretly marries himself to the wives of his followers, do you believe an adulterer can be a prophet, do you also believe joseph smith marring a 14yr old girl made him a paedophile or not, they are simple questions that even a primary school child can answer.
April 12th, 2010 at 11:15 am
[..YouTube..] @billymeier182
how can u debate a subject like plural marriage when the LORD condoned it all during the Old Testament prophets? The Lord never once chastised them for taking multiple wives. Funny only in the recent years has it been so frowned upon. It has been done for thousands of years. Please stop being ignorant. The church of Jesus Christ is restored.
Isaiah 4:1 When the LORD returns there will be plural marriages again.
Please get educated before you comment.
April 12th, 2010 at 11:15 am
[..YouTube..] @bdplist
obsenitities? name one!
liar!
April 12th, 2010 at 11:35 am
[..YouTube..] @LDSapologist71
Thanks for the Real Live Demonstartion of your lack of bible knowledge!
Deuteronomy 17:17 Neither shall he multiply wives to himself
Jesus said: “YE DO ERR NOT KNOWING THE SCRIPTURES”
April 12th, 2010 at 11:57 am
[..YouTube..] @bdplist
Isaiah 4:1 again, Moron, states plural marriage will again happen during the second coming.
April 12th, 2010 at 11:59 am
[..YouTube..] Ephesians 4:5 One Lord, One Faith, One baptism…
You cannot have multiple religions, they can’t all be “OK.”
The LORD will rebuke many.
April 12th, 2010 at 3:06 pm
[..YouTube..] @LDSapologist71
Thanks again for pointing out that m0rm0nISM is NOT Christian!
It is a PAGAN SEX CULT!
April 13th, 2010 at 2:50 am
[..YouTube..] @LDSapologist71 Get educated, are you for real, didnt joseph smith SECRETLY, marry himself to the wives of his FOLLOWERS, do I have to spell it out for you. What would you do if you were living in that time period while being one of his followers and he married himself to your wife and was sleeping with her secretly, without you knowing, you cant tell me thats OK, because thats bullshit.
April 14th, 2010 at 7:08 pm
[..YouTube..] @billymeier182
now you seriously just need a headscan. Because your ideaology and rhetoric are not in line with the bible, and the LDS church of JESUS CHRIST is absolutely the biblical church to be restored.
April 14th, 2010 at 7:10 pm
[..YouTube..] @billymeier182
Joseph smith did NOT have any relations with those women. stop lying you moron.
April 15th, 2010 at 3:18 am
[..YouTube..] @LDS apologist 71 You can read ‘The 19th Wife’ by Ann Eliza Young, (on google books for free) it will show you just how much of a dirt bag Joseph smith really was, if you think I am lying, Check the history… by the way, I will refrain from calling names this time, though get the impression YOU want polygamy…
April 15th, 2010 at 7:53 am
[..YouTube..] @billymeier182
JOE TOOK OTHER MENS WIVES
William Law’s wife stated in 1844 “Joseph had asked her to give him half her love; she was at liberty to keep the other half for her husband”
April 15th, 2010 at 7:54 am
[..YouTube..] EVEN LDS SAID
Rigdon “The leaders of the church were monsters in human form; that Joseph was cut off for his transgression, that Joseph Smith departed from the living God, and like David and Solomon he contracted a WHORING SPIRIT and that the Lord smote him off from the earth” Evans p 91 Messenger and Advocate, Jan. 1, 1845, page 75.
April 15th, 2010 at 7:55 am
[..YouTube..] Rigdon testified that Smith tried to seduce his daughter Nancy Rigdon. Her brother testifies to this dastardly crime, and J. C. Bennett and others support the story. Shooks True Origin of Polygamy, pages 62-67.
April 15th, 2010 at 2:03 pm
[..YouTube..] @bdplist and billymeier182
You’re all just jealous simpletons. Jealous of the true prophet of JesusChrist. I feel sorry for the both of you. The church is restored, and just as Isaiah says when there will 7 women to every man due to world war, and other prophecies, the LORD GOD of ISRAEL WILL DO IT AGAIN, REPENT!
April 15th, 2010 at 3:37 pm
[..YouTube..] “And it came to pass”
The most popular Mayan hieroglyphic found in Mayan artwork.
April 16th, 2010 at 1:25 pm
[..YouTube..] @LDSapologist71 So that must be where Joseph smith got the “authority” to send men on missions, steal their wives in the process, try to make Hyrum the next prophet so that he could become “General Smith” (publicly reprimanded people on several occasions for calling him the “Prophet” and requested to be called “General Smith” and had himself anointed “King of the House of Israel, to reign forever.” A title reserved for Christ. Escaping Mormonism was the best thing that happened to me.
April 16th, 2010 at 11:41 pm
[..YouTube..] @LDSapologist71
SALT lAKE TRIBUNE Oct 6 1875
“SEALED” IN THE BARN ON A HAY MOW
“the first well authenticated case of polygamy took place in which Joseph Smith was “sealed” to the hired girl. The “sealing” took place in a barn on the hay mow, and was witnessed by Mrs. Smith through a crack in the door!”
Fanny, that “dirty little secret” was responsible for the rash of excommunications in 1838
April 16th, 2010 at 11:42 pm
[..YouTube..] @LDSapologist71
Susquehanna Register May 1 1834
LEVI LEWIS states, that he has “been acquainted with Joseph Smith Jr. and Martin Harris, and that he has heard them both say, adultery was no crime. Harris said he did not blame Smith for his (Smith’s) attempt to seduce Eliza Winters &c.;”
April 16th, 2010 at 11:43 pm
[..YouTube..] @LDSapologist71
“Joseph was very free in his talk about his women. He told me one day of a certain girl and remarked, that she had given him more pleasure than any girl he had ever enjoyed. I told him it was horrible to talk like this” Interview with William Law. March 30, 1887 Daily Tribune: Salt Lake City, July 31, 1887
April 17th, 2010 at 3:03 am
[..YouTube..] A young woman said, “We pulled the carts through ankle deep mudI lost my shoe in the mud holeI don’t see how the pioneers did it.”
But many also felt gratitude and a sense of awe in experiencing some of the hardships that their ancestors once did.
April 17th, 2010 at 3:04 am
[..YouTube..] “I benefitted from trek in five ways. First, I lost 6 pounds. I also gained a better appreciation of what the pioneers experienced,” said Austin Jetton, a freshman at Heritage High School. “Third, I met new people and made new friends. Fourth, I learned more about the importance of teamwork, and, finally, I strengthened my testimony.”
Most were happy to return to a warm bed.
April 17th, 2010 at 3:04 am
[..YouTube..] Remember mentors and return the favor, LDS Business College graduates told
April 17th, 2010 at 5:07 am
[..YouTube..] Joseph Smith translated the book of mormon by the power of God and contain the fullness of gospel of Jesus Christ… and I testify this book is true and I know because I read it and I pounder in my heart and I asked to my heavenly father about it and i recived answers by the holly ghost and felt peace in my heart and i knew it and that is the answers…
April 17th, 2010 at 9:32 am
[..YouTube..] @LDS apologist 71 why would I need to repent, I am not the one conspiring to commit adultery. I am not the one giving Psycho guilt trips to followers telling them they have to pay 10% of their gross wage for a fraudulent outfit, whoever doesn’t comply with what your saying must be evil right, and everyone that has left your church to go to a real christian church must also be evil right.
April 17th, 2010 at 10:47 am
[..YouTube..] @billymeier182
they aren’t real christian churches, Billy, but counterfeits.
April 17th, 2010 at 5:04 pm
[..YouTube..] Alcohol, which any LDS Sunday school lesson will tell you contains all the life-prolonging properties of rat urine, is also good in moderation. According to a Dutch study published in the British Medical Journal , a little alcohol with a meal may actually prevent blood clotting caused by fat.
April 17th, 2010 at 5:07 pm
[..YouTube..] Mormon Honduran official killed by robbers
April 17th, 2010 at 5:08 pm
[..YouTube..] A prominent Honduran member of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints died last week after an attack by carjackers as he traveled to the LDS temple in Guatemala.
Salomon Jaar, 48, a Honduran government official and former LDS Area Authority Seventy, mission president, stake president and bishop, was driving with family and a friend on a highway from El Salvador to Guatemala City, Guatemala’s Interior Ministry spokesman Nery Morales said.
April 17th, 2010 at 9:30 pm
[..YouTube..] @LDS apologist 71 liar liar, joseph smith 34 wives but was rumoured to have 50, Brigham young had 55 wives and was married to 6 which were married to other men at the same time, if alcohol was so bad why did Jesus convert water to wine at a marriage banquet, because mormons feel they have the right to dictate to others its the reason why everyone hates them.
April 17th, 2010 at 9:39 pm
[..YouTube..] @LDS apologist 71 seems to think that all other faiths are completely irrelevant and false while mormonism is the complete truth, he is an indoctrinated fanatic who wants to dictate to others and tell them that their faith is trash. he himself is not a christian, in fact, he wouldn’t know the first thing about Christianity.
April 19th, 2010 at 12:07 am
[..YouTube..] Until the final 25 seconds, I took this as showing that the Book is a fraud.
But the final 20 seconds or so seem to take the book-writing process as true!
I take Mormonism as an example of irrational, delusional, wishful thinking.
I prefer to believe things supported by verifiable evidence.
Believe whatever you want to.
April 19th, 2010 at 3:14 am
[..YouTube..] A “PRAYER” TO YOUTUBE:
Please don’t put superstitious material on my “RECOMMENDED” list again.
It only tempts me to resort to name-calling, which I prefer to avoid.
Live and let live.
(But please feel free to recommend more from Christopher Hitchens, an anti-theist and author of “God Is Not Great”, because he’s a rational, critical thinker.)
“Amen”
April 19th, 2010 at 4:25 am
[..YouTube..] @dailyvisits
are you saying there is NO evidence for the Book of Mormon?
April 19th, 2010 at 4:25 am
[..YouTube..] Rachel Willis-Sorensen, second from right, was one of five winners at the Metropolitan Opera’s National Council Audition. The finals were held March 14, 2010.
April 19th, 2010 at 4:26 am
[..YouTube..] Singing in the National Council Auditions finals March 14, Sister Willis-Sorensen’s performance included “Elsa’s Dream” from Wagner’s “Lohengrin” and “Come Scoglio” from Mozart’s “Cosi Fan Tutti.” BYU professor Darrell Babidge, her former vocal teacher, attended the finals.
April 19th, 2010 at 4:26 am
[..YouTube..] “It really was rewarding to see all her hard work come to this point of success,” Brother Babidge said. “Before her performance there was a buzz about her singing Wagner at such a young age with the contrast of a comedic Mozart aria, but she pulled it off successfully and won over the audience. She received the longest applause, and after she left the stage they wouldn’t stop clapping.”
April 19th, 2010 at 10:25 am
[..YouTube..] got joseph smith see advlaef
April 19th, 2010 at 2:02 pm
[..YouTube..] @dailyvisits I think I missed something here. so because joseph smith was able to write this book (and all it’s chapters, verses, chiasmus, and reformed egyptian phrasing) with a 3rd grade education, and with all the other things this video mentioned, you think he obviously made it up… perhaps you’ve been drinking a bit too much of the wine that billymeier182 thinks jesus converted from water. ps: never understood why drinking alchohol might be considered a good thing.
April 19th, 2010 at 3:14 pm
[..YouTube..] @Jaketh1313
so because joseph smith was able to write this book (and all it’s chapters, verses, chiasmus, and reformed egyptian phrasing) with a 3rd grade education
If I write a book with chapters and verses does that make it true? No!
I could throw in some nice chiasmus too. Green Eggs and Ham is chiasmus
3rd grade eduction. This is the main argument Mormons like you like to stick with. Ignore the lack of any archeological, anthropological, linguistic or DNA evidence. Joseph was too dumb!
April 19th, 2010 at 9:10 pm
[..YouTube..] @dfwsunking you have seen the monoliths that depict parts of the book of mormon haven’t you? what about words like “jershon” or “rameumptom” which never appeared in the Bible, yet have obvious roots in ancient languages when compared. the ancient Mayans and Aztecs had temples and highways which Joseph would have known nothing about. Yet he wrote of them. Chiasmus also wasn’t yet uncovered and recognized in the bible until after the book of mormon was published.
April 19th, 2010 at 11:17 pm
[..YouTube..] @omiolo — No, I’m not saying that “there is NO evidence for the Book of Mormon”. I believe in the existence of the book, because I’ve read it (and investigated it). I was referring to the content of the book, rather than its existence. You have the right to your own beliefs. So do I. We’re not likely to change each other’s beliefs. I posted my subjective opinion of the video. You’re free to tell me that, as an unbeliever, I’m going to hell, if that’s what you believe.
April 20th, 2010 at 12:02 am
[..YouTube..] @Jaketh1313 Ahh, the monoliths. Actually, no. Does this explain?
The DNA evidence that shows how virtually all Native Americans originated from Asia even though the Book of Mormon says Lehi’s seed would be kept from the knowledge of other nations?
Where we can find the horses, sheep, oxen, cows, goats, grapes, figs barley, wheat, swords of steel, elephants, Nephite or Lamanite cities, coins, etc?
Chiasmus is a Greek word. How can you say it wasn’t discovered until after the BOM?
April 20th, 2010 at 12:27 am
[..YouTube..] @dailyvisits i apologize. you’re right that we aren’t likely to change eachothers beliefs. trying to throw evidence we’ve found back and forth wont change our minds. I just know that I have read the book and that no evil man could have written it and no good man would unless he was inspired of God. I forget who said that first, but I like it. I doubt you’re going to hell. All the LDS church does is try to help humanity become the best it can be, not condemn others to hell.
April 20th, 2010 at 12:50 am
[..YouTube..] @dfwsunking the book of mormon tells us who the seed of lehi are, it would be kind of silly for it to mean today when the book of mormon has been brought forth. what’s the reference for keeping them from the knowlege of other nations? perhaps it’s a contextual thing.
actually, they did find horses preserved in the La Brea Tar Pits in Los Angeles. I don’t have an answer for all of those, but It seems like joseph has had an uncanny ability to guess right so far.
April 20th, 2010 at 12:53 am
[..YouTube..] @dfwsunking Also I had meant that Chiasmus wasn’t recognized in the Bible till after the BOM was published.
April 20th, 2010 at 1:03 am
[..YouTube..] @Jaketh1313
The horses in the tar pits are dated back 28,000 years. Besides, I thought the BOM took place in Central America. Which is it?
April 20th, 2010 at 1:27 am
[..YouTube..] @dfwsunking was the 28,000 years found by carbon dating?
the BOM takes place on the north american continent. It’s not too unreasonable for a few horses to wander over into those pits and get caught while there are others in the rest of north america that die and decay without leaving any trace.
April 20th, 2010 at 2:14 am
[..YouTube..] @dailyvisits
After reading your comment I felt like I just got take on a circular roller coaster…..
April 20th, 2010 at 2:14 am
[..YouTube..] That’s part of the overall plan, says the center manager, Sandra Joseph.
“The idea really is to promote family togetherness,” Joseph said. “We want to be welcoming. The purpose is to have a fun family experience.”
April 20th, 2010 at 2:15 am
[..YouTube..] So while children are intrigued with the coloring, the word searches, the crossword puzzles, grandpa’s wood shop and grandma’s kitchen with the old-fashioned stove with a coal bucket sitting alongside, and a wooden table and cupboards, they and their parents get caught up too in finding out more about grandma, grandpa and their lives.
They can check out what a headstone is, make a rubbing, look at the “funny” old pictures of boys in frilly dresses and girls in bonnets.
April 20th, 2010 at 2:40 am
[..YouTube..] @Jaketh1313 — Thank you for the apology, Jaketh1313. It takes a better person to apologize than to argue. I respect you even more now. In spite of the differences in our ideas and beliefs, I think we can each continue to help humanity in our own ways. We’re certainly not adversaries if we have a worthwhile common goal like that. Those who act with malice are more dangerous than those with different beliefs. Peace.
April 20th, 2010 at 2:42 am
[..YouTube..] @dailyvisits
Well, looks like you ended up in resorting to name-calling in referring us as “irrational”, “delusional” and “wishful”.
Thanks, but we definitely have been called worse.
Live and let live? You forgot to put that into action.
April 20th, 2010 at 3:09 am
[..YouTube..] @dougdcutler — If you read that post of mine again, you’ll see that I was referring to “Mormonism” and not “Mormons”. I wasn’t referring to people, but rather a belief system (a religion). I was referring to ideas and beliefs; not the people who have those beliefs. — It’s analagous to the saying, “Hate the sin but love the sinner”. No insults to any people were stated or implied. We simply have different beliefs — but hopefully similar worthwhile goals. Peace.
April 20th, 2010 at 3:34 am
[..YouTube..] @dailyvisits
Fair enough.
But how is that analagous?
It would be like saying – hate the “irrational doctrine”, but love the “irrational thinker” and so on with “delusional” and “wishful”. It is an insult no matter how you spin it.
I haven’t found an honest and respectable critic of the LDS Church. I have come to the conclusion that there is no such person on you-tube that fits that description.
Maybe you will be the first one to prove me wrong, but I am not going to hold my breath.
April 20th, 2010 at 4:56 am
[..YouTube..] @dougdcutler — I’d like to respectfully point out that perhaps many potential “honest and respectable critics” prefer to perform helpful, constructive actions for the benefit of others, instead of taking the time to convince others to change their beliefs.
The mentioned analogy refers to “sinful thoughts” and not just “sinful deeds”. Hard to separate those thoughts from their thinkers, but that’s the point of the religious concept of “Hating the sin but loving the sinner”.
April 20th, 2010 at 4:59 am
[..YouTube..] @dougdcutler — As much as I like debating, I must leave this discussion now. I only posted here (originally) to comment on the video. Not all video comments can be positive if they represent honest opinions.
I’m now leaving to watch videos of sinful scantily-clad girls (I’M JOKING!).
Thank you for the brief but interesting discussion. I wish you well.
April 20th, 2010 at 10:15 am
[..YouTube..] @dailyvisits
You are exactly right.
The honest and respectable critics are out serving the poor or doing actions that bless mankind than commenting on what is wrong with the LDS beliefs.
“I think we may accept it as a rule that whenever a person’s religious conversation dwells chiefly, or even frequently, on the faults of other people’s religions, he is in a bad condition.” -C.S. Lewis (Collected Letters Vol. 3 p. 209)
April 20th, 2010 at 3:05 pm
[..YouTube..] Can’t be serious? This is not what Mormons actually think, that this guy wrote the book they all follow and he was not allowed to read it back, proof read and no researsh was allowed. I love how God gave his exat instructions like an EDITOR and told him how to do this and that and to look into your hat to get the answers. This is a joke right, oh yea, I forgot, God edited the Bible and pretty fed him his words, my bad, LOL!
April 20th, 2010 at 4:06 pm
[..YouTube..] Mohhamad claimed better than that. His book is thicker and his accomplishements are greatter. What I meant is, popularity and big numbers of crowds are not necessary truthfull .Read more and listen, you might learned from somebody.
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April 20th, 2010 at 5:09 pm
[..YouTube..] @LafayetteAzevedo actually, we do think that. Joseph would translate one day, come back the next and start right back up again without needing to know what the last thing he said was: it was right in front of him. He didn’t have to research or edit because he was just translating what was already there. I don’t think God needs editing when speaking to his servants the prophets.
April 20th, 2010 at 9:29 pm
[..YouTube..] Where does Xenu come in? I KNOW HE’S IN THERE SOMEWHERE!!@!
If you want to learn about Jesus Christ read the new testament….not some nutjobs delusions of polygamy, black people being cursed by God, and ripping off Freemasonic rite to build a cult.
Joseph Smith had THIRTY THREE wives!! ROFL….once you’ve got the sheep by the neck you get to fuck them I guess.
April 20th, 2010 at 9:51 pm
[..YouTube..] HOW?
Joseph borrowed liberally from the Bible in creating the Book of Mormon. Approximately 25,000 words in the Book of Mormon consist of passages from the Old Testament, mainly chapters from Isaiah that Ethan Smith mentioned in View of the Hebrews. Another 2,000 words were taken from the New Testament. (Fawn Brodie, No Man Knows My History, p. 58)
April 21st, 2010 at 8:51 am
[..YouTube..] Joseph Smith was telling stories at the age of 14 . ( first vision )
Ten years later he suddenly (not) produces a story about a peoples…….239 chapters. it took (10yrs)
The D&C …. writings/revelations that JS wrote……………136 chapters
including: book of Moses,book of Abraham, Joseph Smith 1 & 2 & articles of faith. (16 yrs )
over a period of 26 years he wrote quite a few unusual books.
April 21st, 2010 at 10:17 am
[..YouTube..] @kramd1
Joseph smith was a true prophet of Jesus Christ.
April 21st, 2010 at 5:59 pm
[..YouTube..] @LDSapologist71
thanks, I didn’t know that.
April 22nd, 2010 at 12:13 pm
[..YouTube..] @kramd1 actually the book of abraham was translated from scrolls found in egypt and other people have seen them. actually they were on display at the chicago museum until it burned down in the chicago fire. Good ol’ Joe didn’t write it unfortunately. even though Book of Abraham is actually a good read if you want to know about the whole details the bible leaves out about the beginning.
April 22nd, 2010 at 5:21 pm
[..YouTube..] @LDSapologist71
Comparable to the Bible LOL
1830 version:
Alma 30:16 “it is the effects of a phrensied mind”
Alma 29 “Yea, decreeth unto them decrees which are unalterable”
If the original 1830 Book of Mormon was inspired than why were there so many errors and changes and additions and deletions, when compared to current editions?
April 22nd, 2010 at 6:27 pm
[..YouTube..] @bigkicker33
search: Enuma Elish : )
April 24th, 2010 at 4:06 pm
[..YouTube..] Half the points here don’t even talk about how Joseph smith wrote the book of Mormon. It talks a lot about believing in the book of Mormon, and suffering persecution and death for one’s faith–but how is that supposed to show how he wrote the book? It’s not even a compelling statement to believe in Mormonism-that people die for it? Everyone will die in the name of something, especially religion. This is nothing special to Mormonism. This is a terrible video. nice try with the inspirational music
April 26th, 2010 at 12:10 pm
[..YouTube..] @Grambo4
How bout the fact that Joseph Smith did NOT write it? Your comments are an absurd attempt to use the music as a handicap, yet it changes nothing, it was an ancient Semitic text translated by the power of God. There is so much information that was UNAVAILABLE to the people of 1800’s that is contained within the book of Mormon. This video obviously won’t convince anyone, but it still tells the truth about what happened.
April 26th, 2010 at 2:09 pm
[..YouTube..] Both the Bible and the Book of Mormon speak of the day when the gospel would be restored. The fullness of the Gentiles, mentioned also in the New Testament text, suggests that there would come a day when Israel would be gathered, the Jews would be restored to the knowledge of the truth redeemer, Jesus Christ, and that they should no longer wait for their Messiah (because he’s already come) The Bible speaks also of the mission of the seed of Joseph which would be part of that.
April 26th, 2010 at 2:18 pm
[..YouTube..] Mormon Testiphony:
Colossians 2:16-23
April 27th, 2010 at 3:20 am
[..YouTube..] @LDSapologist71
No, your comments, sir, are an absurd attempt to avoid the heart of the issue, nit-picking at what I decided to comment on. Also absurd is that the language of the supposed book is Semitic–you don’t have any record of the supposed language from the gold plates, so you can’t call it anything for certain! Also, “Reformed Egyptian”, as it was called by Smith, was never a language, anywhere, period–certainly not in the Americas; not even in Egypt!
April 27th, 2010 at 9:09 am
[..YouTube..] @Grambo4
ummm we have plenty of evidences to support what is the generic term of reformed Egyptian.
Probably best you either do some real research or go back to playing dungeons and dragons and leave us alone.
April 27th, 2010 at 12:19 pm
[..YouTube..] The Book of Mormon, like the Bible, contains a record of God’s dealings with a part of the House of Israel. It contains prophecies of Christ and also reveals how Christ, after his resurrection and ascension into heaven, later ministered to those who had waited for him in the New World. The Book of Mormon was anciently abridged by a prophet named Mormon and was engraved on gold plates, to preserve the sacred writing for a future time.
April 27th, 2010 at 2:59 pm
[..YouTube..] joseph smith was gang raped by 7 angels on Kolob
April 27th, 2010 at 3:05 pm
[..YouTube..] Could anyone write the book of mormon, unless the were solomon spaulding?
April 27th, 2010 at 8:18 pm
[..YouTube..] @kramd1 Yes he did write them and all were inspired by God.
April 27th, 2010 at 8:53 pm
[..YouTube..] @amitisrani999
that’s just hilarious
April 27th, 2010 at 8:54 pm
[..YouTube..] @2grace4me
yes sure he was.
April 27th, 2010 at 10:05 pm
[..YouTube..] @2grace4me
kramd1 is a troll, and I see his erroneous comments on every page. It changes nothing. that the book of Mormon is true, and he is only acting the fool.
April 28th, 2010 at 2:15 pm
[..YouTube..] @dougdcutler I love how you answered this. Very to the point. Thanks Doug.
April 28th, 2010 at 2:16 pm
[..YouTube..] @LDSapologist71 I very much agree. You’re doing great..thank you.
April 28th, 2010 at 2:46 pm
[..YouTube..] @amitisrani999 Get your mind out of the gutter. You sound so angry and your choice of words lends me to believe you dropped out of school at a young age .. or are very immature.. Keep learning and replace your vulgar words….then maybe you can show your passion without looking like a fool.
April 28th, 2010 at 7:35 pm
[..YouTube..] Anti-Mormons will never speak for our Church and doctrines.
April 28th, 2010 at 8:17 pm
[..YouTube..] You don`t need any of those things to fill a book with bullshit. Guys like Stephen Kind do that for a living. They just don`t go around asking you subscribe to their “teachings” tho.
April 29th, 2010 at 11:36 pm
[..YouTube..] Just mighty convenient that God took the plates back to Heaven… you never have to worry about an educated person who learned the language instead of relying on a rock to translate for him, RETRANSLATING the book..
Yup , mighty convenient.
April 30th, 2010 at 8:25 am
[..YouTube..] @dougdcutler go cry a river , your the name caller.
April 30th, 2010 at 8:29 am
[..YouTube..] @LDSapologist71 “and he that calls his brother a fool is in danger of hell fire”
April 30th, 2010 at 10:36 am
[..YouTube..] @kramd1
1 Nephi. 9: 16
16 And assuredly, as the Lord liveth, for the Lord God hath spoken it, and it is his eternal word, which cannot pass away, that they who are righteous shall be righteous still, and they who are filthy shall be filthy still; wherefore, they who are filthy are the devil and his angels; and they shall go away into everlasting fire, prepared for them; and their torment is as a lake of fire and brimstone, whose flame ascendeth up forever and ever and has no end.
April 30th, 2010 at 10:38 am
[..YouTube..] @kramd1
1 Nephi 9:16
And assuredly, as the Lord liveth, for the Lord God hath spoken it, and it is His eternal word, which cannot pass away, that they who are righteous shall be righteous still, and they who are filthy shall be filthy still; wherefore, they who are filthy are the devil and his angels; and they shall go away into the everlasting fire prepared for them; and their torment is as a lake of fire and brimstone, whose flames ascend up forever and ever and has no end.
April 30th, 2010 at 10:41 am
[..YouTube..] @toshirodragon
The plates are on the earth today. not heaven.
April 30th, 2010 at 12:01 pm
[..YouTube..] @LDSapologist71 Funny that wasn’t what I was told when I asked..
Interesting how LDS history changes depending on what year it is
April 30th, 2010 at 12:31 pm
[..YouTube..] @toshirodragon
some LDS people and even I assumed the plates just were brought back to our Heavenly Father for safe keeping. If you read the journals of the leaders of the church like Wilford Woodruff, Brigham, Joseph and others wrote the plates will be hidden away on the earth till the Lord comes to bring them out.
April 30th, 2010 at 12:31 pm
[..YouTube..] After reading what really happened to them, I don’t have a problem dispelling any myth.
April 30th, 2010 at 2:43 pm
[..YouTube..] @kramd1
Of course you laugh. Pathetic and disgusting, typical for an anti-Mormon!
April 30th, 2010 at 2:48 pm
[..YouTube..] @LDSapologist71
And as we will see when this happens again, people will still be naysayers and reject the Gospel.
Thank goodness we don’t have to spend an eternity with these faithless fools.
April 30th, 2010 at 7:17 pm
[..YouTube..] @dougdcutler Doug you forgot to call me a an anti Mormon liar.
April 30th, 2010 at 9:03 pm
[..YouTube..] @LDSapologist71 I still say damned convenient way to keep “alternative” interpretations out. Can’t call something wrong if no one can check your source materials…
April 30th, 2010 at 9:31 pm
[..YouTube..] @toshirodragon
just go to the LDS website. It really didn’t take me long to find it.
April 30th, 2010 at 11:31 pm
[..YouTube..] @LDSapologist71 Where ?
May 1st, 2010 at 9:07 pm
[..YouTube..] Saved by Grace alone, it is a gift – NOT after all we can do. The good works follow, through sheer gratitude & thankfulness to God for his mercy. When you recieve this, when you understand that you are a sinner by nature & can never even get close to living by the law – then you will receive the real Gospel of Christ, & then it will all make sense. The truth shall set you free, Amen.
May 1st, 2010 at 9:33 pm
[..YouTube..] Must have 4,000 changes made to it from the original edition………
May 2nd, 2010 at 3:07 am
[..YouTube..] Wonderful… thanks for doing this!
May 3rd, 2010 at 1:26 pm
[..YouTube..] Another interesting youtube video, called “The LDS Awakening”, documents the tornado that ripped through temple square in 1999. This tornado was a warning, sent from the Lord, that we His people need to repent and get our lives in order.
May 3rd, 2010 at 10:58 pm
[..YouTube..] @a68rebel,
And don’t forget to mention that 99.9 percent of those changes were misspellings, grammatical errors, and punctuational mistakes, and the other .1 percent was changed by Joseph Smith himself, and it was not doctrine which was changed, only linguistic changes to make the text clearer. Yes, we wouldn’t want those poor Mormons to know that we hide that fact from them when we tell them that the Book of Mormon has changed.
May 3rd, 2010 at 11:02 pm
[..YouTube..] @LycansGrim,
The Bible says that faith without works is dead (James 2: 21-26) and that all men shall be judged according to their works (Matthew 16-27)
May 4th, 2010 at 2:04 am
[..YouTube..] @samuelonthewall ANTI MORMON
May 4th, 2010 at 10:53 pm
[..YouTube..] AHAHAHA!!! Are you kiddin me with this??? Wait, where are his 33 wives I wanna see if they is hot hot HOT!? Where them Ingines at which are actually jews! Where’s the burning of the Expositor because pimp joe didn’t like that polygamy thingy they printed? Where’s the shoot out where gangster joe was shootin pop pop pop?!!! Where them Magic Rocks at??? This aint complete story now!
May 4th, 2010 at 10:55 pm
[..YouTube..] @mormonanswerman Hey you ANTI FREEDOM OF SPEECH! You still cherry pickin your comments on your channel you coward!!!
May 4th, 2010 at 10:56 pm
[..YouTube..] @LDSapologist71 Are they still GOLD??? APOLOGIZE liar!!!
May 5th, 2010 at 12:12 am
[..YouTube..] @mytv80
Still waiting to hear your testimony of the Savior Jesus Christ. We know you aren’t Christian, and try to disrupt the spirit of JESUS CHRIST, and have not his true love which is kind. You are such a hypocrit. You are so funny. Now please go away.
May 5th, 2010 at 12:36 am
[..YouTube..] @LDSapologist71 I testify that the Mormon Jesus Christ who visited New York with blonde hair & blue eyes never existed!!! NOW APOLOGIZE to all the people for your lies! I’m waiting and Jesus is watching you!
May 5th, 2010 at 8:43 am
[..YouTube..] @mytv80
He spoke face to face with Joseph Smith, and Joseph did listen and adhere to what was said to him. I’m sorry, you are decieved, and ignorant. How’s that for an apology?
May 5th, 2010 at 1:05 pm
[..YouTube..] @LDSapologist71 I told you to APOLOGIZE but NOT have more IDIOTIC UNPROVEN CLAIMS! Now stop telling FIBS and DECEIVING yourself as well as others!!! You didn’t even disagree with my description of your Mormon Jesus Christ with BLONDE HAIR & BLUE EYES!!! ‘JESUS’ WAS NOT AN AMERICAN MORMON FROM NEW YORK!!! Study some more, see a psychiatrist, and APOLOGIZE for your IGNORANCE!!!
May 5th, 2010 at 1:08 pm
[..YouTube..] @mytv80
You’re the real LIAR HERE, mytrolling. Get lost!
May 5th, 2010 at 1:11 pm
[..YouTube..] The apostle Paul wrote to Titus to look forward to the day when God the Father and the Son would appear to mankind once again.
Titus 2:13
This day was FULFILLED when they appeard to a 14 year old boy that humble asked for guidance to the truth, and was called to be a prophet, and later ordained with the APOSTOLIC priesthood that was LOST for CENTURIES.
Acts 3:19-21
May 5th, 2010 at 1:25 pm
[..YouTube..] @LDSapologist71 Yes Stop your trolling and your lying!!! That’s the smartest thing you’ve said so far! Now I told you to stop being an Apologist for LDS because you’re makin them look more ridiculous than they already are!!! Now APOLOGIZE to your racist cult, to the “NEGROES”, to WOMEN, to yourself, and ALL the people that you LIE to but most important, Apologize to your FABIO Mormon Jesus!!! Get found!
May 5th, 2010 at 8:19 pm
[..YouTube..] “Behold, I said unto them: How is it that ye do not keep the commandments of the Lord? How is it that ye will perish, because of the hardness of your hearts? Do ye not remember the things which the Lord hath said?—If ye will not harden your hearts, and ask me in faith, believing that ye shall receive, with diligence in keeping my commandments, surely these things shall be made known unto you.”
1 Nephi 15:10-11
May 5th, 2010 at 8:21 pm
[..YouTube..] Mormons believe that Jesus is both the Son of God and God the Son. What kind of semantic game are you playing here?
As for not being “orthodox” Christianity, if you mean by that Mormons reject the Nicene Creed, I would agree wholeheartedly. To me, that’s not the Christianity of the New Testament anyway; it’s an invention of men. The Bible teaches the truth about God, and its teaching differ from those of the Nicene Creed.
May 6th, 2010 at 12:30 pm
[..YouTube..] @LDSapologist71
There’s just one HUGE problem with this. The first recorded account of the First Vision (1832) doesn’t say he was visited by God the Father and Jesus. It merely says he saw “the Lord”. The two personages was added in the final version.
May 6th, 2010 at 11:01 pm
[..YouTube..] Much of the Book of Mormon seems to be lifted from the Bible, even in King James English throughout, despite the fact it was allegedly composed before the King James Bible existed.
May 7th, 2010 at 10:11 pm
[..YouTube..] @LDSapologist71 HAS CLOSED HIS ACCOUNT::: (Again). So, lets keep our eyes and ears open. We don’t want him straying further into the Morg
May 9th, 2010 at 12:56 pm
[..YouTube..] Entirely made-up shit.
Check the archaeological claims the book of moron makes. How come they don´t match the findings?
Cause it´s made up by a fraudster…
May 9th, 2010 at 9:05 pm
[..YouTube..] Joe was a GREAT PLAGARIZER
May 9th, 2010 at 9:41 pm
[..YouTube..] Like every LDS related video, we have anti-Mormons and “Christians” that have a Phd in history and brilliantly know every fact about our Church and doctrines.
The wolves will be exposed.
May 10th, 2010 at 10:55 am
[..YouTube..] @IExposeMormonism ….to you and all your buddies….. John 12:40 .”HE HAS BLINDED THEIR EYES AND HE HARDENED THEIR HEART, SO THAT THEY WOULD NOT SEE WITH THEIR EYES AND PERCEIVE WITH THEIR HEART, AND BE CONVERTED AND I HEAL THEM.”
When will you see and hear? LDSapologist71 is telling the truth. There is no greater honor than to serve the Lord Jesus Christ with all our heart, mind and soul.
May 10th, 2010 at 11:06 am
[..YouTube..] what does wta mean? The one thing about the internet is this:: You can make it what you want. If you want to do serious investigation you can. for instance, if you buy Walker-Turley-Leonard’s MMMassacre and their Diaries book it will change you. You might be Mormon but it will change you. Changes everyone who puts their hand to it. well, many…So don’t ignore the truth. And LDSa71 should be back soon. All of you should read the MMM.The emigrants never did those things. If 1 did why murder all?
May 10th, 2010 at 11:12 am
[..YouTube..] Why is it that everyone is always throwing in that the book of mormon came from the bible? None of you seem to be able to get that everyone in the book of mormon originated from Jerusalem. And that is were the bible originated from, so the point is that the bible was the book of mormon people’s history. Of course they would use it like we use our history. That is your excuse to discredit the book of mormon claiming it has stolen parts from the bible.
May 10th, 2010 at 11:12 am
[..YouTube..] The point of the matter is that Joseph Smith could not have made up the Book of Mormon in 60 days, completely impossible. But feed on the lies if you so please as if it’s any skin off my nose, but for heaven sakes give up spreading the lies on youtube.
May 10th, 2010 at 11:15 am
[..YouTube..] @DrPorterRockwell Know what you mean it’ll be nice when these wolves are exposed and pathetic that youtube could be doing a lot of good while it is being put to slander by these wolves.
May 10th, 2010 at 11:17 am
[..YouTube..] How Joseph Smith wrote the Book of Mormon:
1) The basic story was written by Rev Solomon Spaulding.
2) Sidney Rigdon stole the manuscripts after Spaulding’s death and added his own theology to them.
3) Joseph Smith coned Martin Harris so money could be gather for publication.
We know this through several accounts in 1834 by people who read the Book of Mormon and knew Spaulding’s story. Also, Stanford University did a peer-reviewed textual analysis to back up this theory.
May 10th, 2010 at 11:43 am
[..YouTube..] @jea123nne It wasn’t made up in 60 days. He did use seer stones and a white hat. And he used the Uma Thurman, As my little video shows….the image of skin off your nose and feeding on lies makes an odd feeling…TheLogos1 is right. But SS was alive when the First book (“Manuscript Found”/ aka basis of BofM) was stolen. SS accused Rigdon of it’s theft. Later “Manuscript Story” was stolen by Hurlburt,etc. THAT book is the one found in Hawaii. Hurlburt knew what he was doing.
May 10th, 2010 at 11:47 am
[..YouTube..] I expose mormonism— I’m sorry you can’t see or hear and your heart is hardened. I don’t have to read the book you suggest, I know what happened there and I know basically why. It is of no interest to me as we, by the very nature are a good and loving people and have nothing but the best intentions. The very fact that these people were pushed to doing this shows only to what degree they
constantly beat down both psychologically and physically and the sad fact is–it still going on.
May 10th, 2010 at 12:04 pm
[..YouTube..] @wtalady It’s true and really sad that it is still going on, but these are the wolves that will be identified eventually that DrPorterRockwell is referring to below.
May 10th, 2010 at 12:19 pm
[..YouTube..] “No unhallowed hand can stop the work from progressing; persecutions may rage, mobs may combine, armies may assemble, calumny may defame, but the truth of God will go forth boldly, nobly, and independent, till it has penetrated every continent, visited every clime, swept every country, and sounded in every ear, till the purposes of God shall be accomplished, and the Great Jehovah shall say the work is done”. Joseph Smith Jr. (History of the Church, 4:540.)
May 10th, 2010 at 12:20 pm
[..YouTube..] @DrPorterRockwell I liked your channel I checked in out…hahaha wolves indeed!
May 10th, 2010 at 2:43 pm
[..YouTube..] @jea123nne
What’s going on is much more subtle. It’s a little thing known as the internet and now that both members and non-members can study the actual history rather than the sanitized version the church puts out, more and more people are concluding its nonsense and leaving. More members are resigning than ever before and fewer people are joining. The church closed 14 missions and opened up 9 new ones in areas where internet access is limited. Ignorant is the new “pure and delightsome”
May 10th, 2010 at 4:49 pm
[..YouTube..] @AmIWhiteYet Looks like your one of those wolves too…hahaha!
May 10th, 2010 at 9:09 pm
[..YouTube..] @TheLogos1
Thank goodness we have another PhD to explain our history and doctrines.
Are you capable to back up your pathetic claims with any legitimate source? Any?
Obviously not, if you’re using the “Standford study” which ironically is a wordprint analysis that doesn’t include Joseph Smith
Maybe anti-Mormons support this study because Craig Criddle an apostate, is the driving force.
Biases don’t work in the real world even with the BYU’s wordprint analysis studies.
May 10th, 2010 at 9:12 pm
[..YouTube..] @TheLogos1
I’ve seen countless studies in my life, but rarely do you see one with an * on the title of the study which reflects the data was skewed.
Translation: no one in the real world would accept this study, unless of course you’re an anti-Mormon that just copies and pastes whatever they blindly read on their favorite anti-Mormon mill.
Verify your sources before you continue to embarrass yourself!
Which I know is impossible for anti-Mormons to do. Hence why you resort to lies.
May 10th, 2010 at 9:20 pm
[..YouTube..] @AmIWhiteYet
Sources for your pathetic claims? Any? Well?
May 10th, 2010 at 10:32 pm
[..YouTube..] @DrPorterRockwell I actually got that information from Wikipedia. It isn’t just the word print study, but several other facts that support its conclusions. If the hypothesis was wrong, the word print study should have shown that, but it didn’t. Burden of proof that the Book of Mormon lies in the hands of LDS scholars. However, the evidence they provide is speculative and begs the question.
May 10th, 2010 at 10:40 pm
[..YouTube..] @DrPorterRockwell Search it up on Wikipedia where I got the information. Also, this study was peer reviewed where as the last study Mormons did at Berkley was not peer reviewed and there are errors in the results because of it. Next, answer this question:
1) If Sidney Rigdon did not steal Solomon Spaulding’s story and re-write, why does he appear as the dominant author? Why doesn’t BYU do a test and actually include Sidney Rigdon?
May 10th, 2010 at 11:02 pm
[..YouTube..] @TheLogos1
To be taken seriously, I wouldn’t admit you use wikipedia as a source.
Don’t take me as a fool and ask me questions until you can come up with one valid source for your pathetic claims. Just one!
May 10th, 2010 at 11:02 pm
[..YouTube..] @TheLogos1
Are anti-Mormons this clueless about what a valid and legitimate source is? Read the actual study instead of wikipedia.
Do you have anything to bring to the table other than your pathetic sources? Well?
May 10th, 2010 at 11:36 pm
[..YouTube..] @DrPorterRockwell Ultimately, great claims require great proof. Name a anthropologist or archeologist outside of Mormonism that supports that there was a nation of Nephites living in America? Give me a source to an early manuscript of any book in the Book of Mormon found in Mesoamerica. Why are Laminites cursed with black skin? Why is there no hint that Christians lived amongst pre-Colombian tribes in Mesoamerica? Why couldn’t Joseph Smith reproduce the 116 missing pages?
May 10th, 2010 at 11:39 pm
[..YouTube..] @DrPorterRockwell Why is the Joseph Smith papyri of an Egyptian funeral burial text and not of the Book of Abraham? Why is the Mormon temple rituals identical to rituals performed in Freemasonry? Why did Joseph Smith said the Bible was wrong about God being from all eternity to all eternity and then claimed that God was once a man? What creeds were an abomination according to the first vision? Why was the Book of Commandments heavily re-edited?
May 11th, 2010 at 12:05 am
[..YouTube..] @TheLogos1
Can’t back up one claim so you resort to asking more questions.
Can you be anymore predictable in your anti-Mormon tactics?
May 11th, 2010 at 12:06 am
[..YouTube..] @TheLogos1
Wrong!
Yes, the faithless demand evidence, but the reality is that God is not on trial no matter how much anti-Mormons whine about it.
I am still waiting for a legitimate source from your first claim and not from a pathetic source like wikipedia.
Since you want to change the subject by using the shotgun approach with your insincere questions then do tell us about you.
Why are you here? What is your religion? What are your beliefs? Don’t answer what you aren’t.
May 11th, 2010 at 1:18 am
[..YouTube..] @DrPorterRockwell Faith is not a belief with no evidence. It is a gift of God. Wikipedia cites it sources, if you don’t want to check it then that is your choice.
1) I was once a Mormon and it took a year for me to break free of the LDS Church. That is why I am here.
2) I have no religion. I serve Christ alone and not man made religions.
3) I believe in Christ Jesus and the Grace he has saved me by.
May 11th, 2010 at 2:05 am
[..YouTube..] @TheLogos1
The sources lead to anti-Mormon mills so in your anti-Mormon mind wikipedia is a legit source. Brilliant deduction!
You are an apostate that is why you are here?
A believer in Christ showing his “Christian” acts and “love” to the LDS members by spewing lies from wikipedia?
What a noble and honorable purpose! The Lord has absolutely no claim on those who fight against Him and His Church.
May 11th, 2010 at 6:47 am
[..YouTube..] @DrPorterRockwell I fear God more than I fear your church, for your church is not Christ’s church. The priesthood, the Apostles, and the Prophet act as buffers between God and man’s salvation claiming they have the authority to give men salvation or take it away. Only Christ has that authority. I do not fight against God. I fear Him tremendously. I love the Mormons so much to warn them of the danger they’re in at the cost of being rejected, called an apostate or an anti-Mormon.
May 11th, 2010 at 10:37 am
[..YouTube..] @TheLogos1
“love the Mormons”?
Yes, we feel your “love” so much as you spew regurgitated lies about our sacred faith, you pathetic hypocrite.
May 11th, 2010 at 10:58 am
[..YouTube..] @DrPorterRockwell Your “sacred faith” will not save you anymore than it can save me. However, if that is what you want than enjoy it while it lasts. You can call me a liar all you want until you feel better about yourself because I am not here to gain your approval. Christ did not come for the righteous, but for the unrighteous and I freely admit I am the unrighteous.
May 11th, 2010 at 11:15 am
[..YouTube..] @TheLogos1
It must be nice playing the role of God in determining who will be saved.
Do you believe homosexuality is one of those “unrighteous” abominations?
May 11th, 2010 at 12:25 pm
[..YouTube..] @TheLogos1 Let’s be clear in proper definitions. You are an anti-Mormon disguising yourself as someone who “loves” those that are “lost”, but you clearly express no love, only contention on LDS videos which contention comes directly from the devil.
May 11th, 2010 at 1:04 pm
[..YouTube..] @jea123nne I am not disguising myself nor do I see how you confused contentious for truth. If Joseph Smith’s claims are not true and he teaches false doctrines, then he is a false prophet. You may like Mormonism because it makes you feel good, but if it is not what it claims to be… that good feeling will not help you.
May 11th, 2010 at 1:06 pm
[..YouTube..] @DrPorterRockwell I do not know who will be saved at the end. However, there are many lost souls in Mormonism that will abandon it and completely surrender themselves to Jesus Christ. Yes, we are all unrighteous. Only Jesus Christ is righteous. When we pretend that we can become righteous with our works, we are deceiving ourselves.
May 11th, 2010 at 2:05 pm
[..YouTube..] @TheLogos1 If your so utterly concerned about your fellow men you’ll let them live their religion and we’ll account at the last day before God if necessary. Obviously we’ll see whose right the Mormons or you at the judgement bar won’t we?
May 11th, 2010 at 2:24 pm
[..YouTube..] @surfintheUSA26 Right on Surfin right on. We’ll see at the judgement bar whose right and whose wrong!
May 11th, 2010 at 2:45 pm
[..YouTube..] @TheLogos1
You are a walking contradiction. First you say we aren’t going to be saved and that you have come for the “unrighteous” like the Lord. Then you state you don’t know who will be saved and that you are the “unrighteous”.
Regardless. Is homosexuality an abomination or not? Yes or no?
May 11th, 2010 at 4:19 pm
[..YouTube..] كفّار = mormonism
May 11th, 2010 at 4:20 pm
[..YouTube..] mormonism = كفّار
May 11th, 2010 at 7:21 pm
[..YouTube..] @surfintheUSA26 Joseph Smith added to and took away from the Book of Revelation for the JST. In Revelations 22:18-19 we read:
…If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book: And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.
What was Joseph Smith’s fate for the changes he made?
May 11th, 2010 at 11:01 pm
[..YouTube..] No geographical location for Zarahemla, No evidence of horses, steel swords, wheat ,elephants or jesus pre columbus. a totally fictional story. A simple search on the origins of the book of mormon would make any thinking person wonder.
It is little wonder that church leaders say ” only by a willingness to know it’s true ( whatever that means ) and prayer can you also join in the psychosis.
” Pathetic ” describe your evidence.
May 12th, 2010 at 12:41 am
[..YouTube..] @jea123nne
Since TheLogos1 will not answer my questions.
Ask him for the 3rd time if homosexuality is an abomination or not? Yes or no?
May 12th, 2010 at 11:45 pm
[..YouTube..] Hey where are the MAGIC ROCKS!!!? And where is the kool HAT where he put his face in to translate the Silver Book!!!??
May 13th, 2010 at 5:39 am
[..YouTube..] @jea123nne Yeah right on..You tell em!!! They will SEE the truth…AFTER THEY DIE…They will Regret what they all say about the BoM being FAKE and Joseph Smith bein a POLYGAMIST! They have no clue that when a Mormon dies, MEN will have CELESTIAL WIVES & Become a God with his own Planet! I’ll be on the 3rd level of Heaven dancin my ass off while the Antis will be on the 1st level! HAHAHA! Oh I can’t till I’m dead so I can laugh at all these Antis hahahah! You tell em Surf & baby J!!!
May 13th, 2010 at 2:45 pm
[..YouTube..] Church members organized the event as a community service project.
Sometimes an emergency preparedness system is more important than an emergency kit, said church member Kenneth Crowther, and often folks can put together better emergency packages than what they could buy in stores.
Crowther suggested people keep a bag in their vehicles that includes items such as extra clothes, non-perishable food, water and purification tablets, medicine and diapers and pacifiers for those with young children
May 13th, 2010 at 2:45 pm
[..YouTube..] Always having those items can serve two purposes: It allows people to be more spontaneous with trips and also prepares them for situations in which they could become stuck in their cars due to bad weather or other unexpected circumstances.
Linda Beard, a volunteer for the American Red Cross, teaches CPR for babies and animals. She said courses conducted by the American Red Cross help people become prepared to rescue helpless choking victims.
May 13th, 2010 at 6:07 pm
[..YouTube..] What a fabulous description of why Joseph the prophet could not have written the Book Of Mormon on his own. I’ve read it and know it’s true.
May 13th, 2010 at 6:08 pm
[..YouTube..] @kramd1 Do you consider yourself a Christian?
May 13th, 2010 at 7:40 pm
[..YouTube..] @spe07012 of mormon jesus ? no
May 13th, 2010 at 10:14 pm
[..YouTube..] @DrPorterRockwell -brilliant answers to some of these pathetic people and their sources.
May 13th, 2010 at 11:48 pm
[..YouTube..] @omiolo I’m going to Utah soon. What do you think a person like my self should take with them? I camp out a lot. In the high desert like Canyonlands “The Needles”. This video shows JSmith with his hand on the plates. But his hands were not on the plates. The plates were not in the room and his head was in his hat with his pet rock. I’m not sure where his hands were
May 14th, 2010 at 12:22 am
[..YouTube..] @2grace4me
I appreciate it. The truth hurts when someone is exposed, hence why some of my messages are “flagged”. Too damning for wolves.
May 14th, 2010 at 3:40 am
[..YouTube..] Gold Book? American Indians are Jews? Ahahah! What the hell is a daym Nephite & Lamanite? Battle at Cumorah in New York? Ahahahah! Where are remnants of these great civilizations? Where are the remains of Israelites, Jeradites, Nephites, Lamanites, Klingons, Jedis, Vulcans, & Psychlos? AHAHAHA! Mormons are so easily duped! Just because your mommy & daddy are Mormon Cult members doesnt mean you have to follow their Cultist Church! Stop the Cycle of Brainwashing now & don’t pass it to your kids!
May 14th, 2010 at 5:15 am
[..YouTube..] @spe07012 Hey, add me as a friend. I wanted to send you something, from one Christian to another, but can’t because I am blocked.
May 14th, 2010 at 9:47 am
[..YouTube..] @IExposeMormonism
**his hands were not on the plates.**
The translators of the Book of Mormon disagree with you!
May 14th, 2010 at 9:47 am
[..YouTube..] Vancouver British Columbia Temple: Church’s 131st temple dedicated
May 14th, 2010 at 9:48 am
[..YouTube..] LANGLEY, British Columbia
Just months after the world turned its view to Vancouver for the XXI Olympic Winter Games, Latter-day Saints looked to the city again this time in celebration of the dedication of the Church’s 131st temple.
May 14th, 2010 at 9:48 am
[..YouTube..] Crowds gather in front of the Vancouver British Columbia Temple on a cold, wet morning for dedication services.
May 14th, 2010 at 9:48 am
[..YouTube..] President Thomas S. Monson dedicated the Vancouver British Columbia Temple on May 2.
Lyn Sloan of Surrey, British Columbia, said Latter-day Saints in the area were excited for the Olympics, but the temple dedication was always foremost in our minds.
May 14th, 2010 at 10:40 am
[..YouTube..] @omiolo I have the testimony of John Whitmer and O. Cowdery. neither says JS had his hands on the plates. Both say the plates were out of the room. I have no testimony saying the plates were in the room when being translated. If you have a witness who was a translator who also say the plates were in the room during the translation I would be grateful to know
May 14th, 2010 at 11:03 am
[..YouTube..] @IExposeMormonism
how IRONIC, I have the testimony of Cowdery which says he did! Also, how would Whitmer know he was NOT a scribe for the Book of Mormon!
GOTCHA!
May 14th, 2010 at 11:03 am
[..YouTube..] EPHRAIM — Invoking three British “voices from the past” — Cardinal Thomas Wolsey, writer Rudyard Kipling, and poet and cleric John Donne — Elder Jeffrey R. Holland counseled graduates Saturday at the 122nd commencement of Snow College.
May 14th, 2010 at 11:04 am
[..YouTube..] Elder Holland of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints’ Quorum of the Twelve received an honorary doctorate of humane letters prior to giving the commencement address to 755 graduates at the junior college in central Utah.
May 14th, 2010 at 11:04 am
[..YouTube..] In his address, Elder Holland explained that Wolsey rose to political prominence and worldly wealth in the court of King Henry VIII. But when he couldn’t overcome church objections and deliver a divorce for his king, he lost everything, ultimately falling ill and dying on his way to execution.
May 14th, 2010 at 11:34 am
[..YouTube..] @omiolo I have to go now.. But I’ll be back…!
May 14th, 2010 at 1:38 pm
[..YouTube..] @IExposeMormonism
ok arnold???
May 14th, 2010 at 1:38 pm
[..YouTube..] 2. An unimpaired condition
Elder Holland spoke of the structural integrity of a healthy heart. Impairments in the integrity of a human heart can result in failure and death. The human body is, by nature, flawed and subject to structural failure. In like manner, spiritual flaws result in a failure of the integrity of the soul.
May 15th, 2010 at 6:12 pm
[..YouTube..] @IExposeMormonism Yes, sorry, John Whitmer was a scribe. I have a list here of all the scribes. But David Whitmer had a lot to say about Joseph’s “Old White Hat”. He described the translation process and his own experiences with the seer stone. All interesting reading. But I think DW took a tip up to King Strang. He was shot, too. ( I posted a interesting book, “Children of the Sea” on King Strang and the Michigan Mormons. )
May 16th, 2010 at 2:20 am
[..YouTube..] @DrPorterRockwell God does view it as an abomination but you need to read the rest of the Bible, we are made to love one another and reserve the judgment of others for Him(God) it is no mans right to pass any type of judgement on the character of another.
Do you judge Homosexuals?
May 16th, 2010 at 2:24 am
[..YouTube..] @blckchrysda
But hypocritically you judge the doctrines of God while preaching the Bible and rejecting the Book of Mormon.
Hate the sin, love the sinner.
May 16th, 2010 at 2:27 am
[..YouTube..] @TheLogos1 Very true but if we are truly faithful then we will have good works. LDS have to yeild to the Bible in order to claim truth from God. But many do not teach/read/study/ponder/know what else the Bible has to say about faith and works, the Bible explains itself you just have to read. Many LDS dont, they read what somebody was written they read.
May 16th, 2010 at 2:30 am
[..YouTube..] @jea123nne anti-mormon definition. Anti=opposite of what is being taught/said/known. Mormon=LDS. Anti-Mormon would be the opposite of what the LDS teach/say/know. Most people who are catagorized as AM merely represent fact, science, truth, and most importantly the Bible. Which in almost every case does not agree with the BoM and the LDS church. Still this is not AM.
May 16th, 2010 at 2:34 am
[..YouTube..] @DrPorterRockwell Keep in mind He denies those who say they are fighting and preaching in His name. Do you? Think about the verse containg Lord! Lord! and He denied them. Better to seek Him out like He asks and know for yourself. Can you prove the LDS church with the Bible?
May 16th, 2010 at 2:44 am
[..YouTube..] @blckchrysda
But you lie about our Church and doctrines like you are an “expert” so you should know exactly what an anti-Mormon is, you are one.
May 16th, 2010 at 2:47 am
[..YouTube..] @blckchrysda
You will face the Lord and He will directly ask you why you lied about His Church and His prophets.
Your “Bible” that you only use as a stumbling block will be no defense. If you believe in the Bible you will believe in the Book of Mormon. Why is your heart so hardened to not believe?
You have been deceived.
May 16th, 2010 at 2:57 am
[..YouTube..] @DrPorterRockwell Truly hate the Sin love the sinner. I reject the BoM because it is not supported in context by the Bible. Anybody can make some random religion by taking some Bible text out of place. Why do you reject what the Bible says in context when it does not support the LDS church? I love you man and i will pray for you everyday with my family.
May 16th, 2010 at 2:59 am
[..YouTube..] @DrPorterRockwell you say like i am an expert, sorry i never will claim that i am. What lies have i said ever? Just to give you a heads up i literally grew up in the LDS church museum in SLC. My mom managed the gift shop and couldnt afford a babysitter.
May 16th, 2010 at 3:02 am
[..YouTube..] @DrPorterRockwell truly i was deceived for most of my life. being told only to selectively read the Bible, doing this makes you miss the HUGE PIONTS. Stumbling block? i view it as the commanality of Jewish Inspired Scripture, the commanality being Jesus. I would never lie about His Apostles and Prophets, nor do i lie about the LDS apostles.
May 16th, 2010 at 3:12 am
[..YouTube..] @blckchrysda
Who cares? You are a wolf who lies about the Lord’s Church while claiming to be a follower of Jesus Christ.
May 16th, 2010 at 3:13 am
[..YouTube..] @blckchrysda
Know now or know at the judgement bar of Christ. All of your lies will be exposed.
May 16th, 2010 at 3:14 am
[..YouTube..] @blckchrysda
Save your sincere prayers. You pray to the devil who you blindly serve.
May 16th, 2010 at 4:07 am
[..YouTube..] @DrPorterRockwell you’re right who cares about somebody’s testimony wether right or wrong thats what Jesus taught. right? You’re the wolf, since you are so willing and “capable” of making the judgment that i am a wolf a liar and spreader of lies, you should be easily capable of proving this. So why dont you? in the U.S. and the english language this would make you the liar.
May 16th, 2010 at 4:10 am
[..YouTube..] @DrPorterRockwell Again i blindly serve the Devil? i literally serve God, Jesus, the Holy Spirit and the Bible. If you actually knew me then your vastly premature judgements would make you look like a fool. Read the Bible since you wont show me context support of the BoM and the LDS church, read it in context.
May 16th, 2010 at 4:12 am
[..YouTube..] @DrPorterRockwell Just like the 10, the word of God is law. He says if you break one law you have broken THE law meaning all law. So if you can measure the BoM and the LDS church and not have it once fail then it is truly from God. One failure and it shows its true colors. To not do so is blindly serving something not from God since some devote their lives to it. Have you done this?
May 16th, 2010 at 4:15 am
[..YouTube..] @DrPorterRockwell and just to re-cap i do not judge doctrines, i read them and point out fact contextually, this is not passing judgement. Espcially when it deals with the Bible and the LDS extra Biblical teachings. Do you judge the word of God when it does not agree with the LDS church or the BoM? and do you judge Homosexuals?
May 16th, 2010 at 5:47 am
[..YouTube..] @blckchrysda I believe that good works from the Lord and not from myself. It is through Jesus Christ that we learn to love what God considers good and hate what God considers evil. Now, I am not going to resort to DrPorterRockwell’s name calling, but I do have to reject Mormonism entirely because it goes against the word of God. I know Mormons do not like it when someone points out the errors in their teachings or doctrines, but they should want to know if the LDS Church is false.
May 16th, 2010 at 3:50 pm
[..YouTube..] @DrPorterRockwell truly i pray that one day you will read the Bible fuly and not selectively. Search for truth and understanding not for proof of something. Just a random question, when you read the Bible do you think oh this proves LDS church first or do you think this proves Jesus first? Its sad you dont have the guts to read His word and show me where it supports the LDS church.
May 17th, 2010 at 1:04 pm
[..YouTube..] And Joseph produced the book, “letter by letter, that was straight from God”, with his head in a hat staring at a rock. Truth and facts can’t be found. This video is deception.
May 17th, 2010 at 1:15 pm
[..YouTube..] @DrPorterRockwell Exacally what all these anti’s are, claiming to be so loving and followers of Jesus Christ. But we all know what they really are…so don’t be tricked by any of them
May 17th, 2010 at 1:15 pm
[..YouTube..] @DrPorterRockwell Yes their lies will for once not be hidden at the judgement bar, thank goodness for that
May 17th, 2010 at 1:22 pm
[..YouTube..] How could anyone write the Book of Mormon unless they were called of God? This is such an amazing video and I can honestly say that I know without a doubt that the Book fo Mormon truely came from God and Joseph Smith was a prophet of God. And no matter the slander that is thrown on here will change that the Book of Mormon is true and Joseph Smith was a prophet of God!! What joy I feel when viewing videos like this.
May 18th, 2010 at 2:12 pm
[..YouTube..] @awolLDSasap No what you say is slanderous. The Book of Mormon is true and Joseph Smith was a prophet of God. He was given the power to translate the plates so that we in this dispensation would have the fullness of the gospel. Read it and pray about it. It is true.
May 19th, 2010 at 4:14 am
[..YouTube..] Joseph Smith’s Rotten fruits: Polygamy, Sexual Predator who married teenager & women already married, Silver Book, Stone Seer, Criminal, Book of Abraham was a Funerary text, JST Joseph Smith Translation of the Bible, Nephites & Lamanites Indians, Kolob, Battle at Cumorah, Adam God Doctrine, Jesus Lucifer’s brother, Blood Atonement, The destruction of Nauvoo Expositor, Joseph ConMan Smith Sold Tea, Coffee, Liquor, & Drank Wine before getting filled with bullet holes & falling out the window.
May 19th, 2010 at 7:25 am
[..YouTube..] @2grace4me How is the truth slander? Somtimes the truth is hard to swallow when you have been taught something else. Joseph translated the BofM with his head burried in a hat while staring at a rock. I have read the book and prayed about it several times. NO repsonse, nothing. It was only by other people repeating that it was true, I became convinced that it was true. Then I found the truth about Christ in the New Testament. It was NOT the same lds gospel I was raised on.
May 19th, 2010 at 8:13 pm
[..YouTube..] I am very appreciative of your video Seth. My very first of many testimonies as a convert was of the work Joseph Smith did in becoming the conduit of God by which the Book of Mormon was brought forth to the world in the latter days. There is absolutely no way that he could have even attempted the miracle (Book of Mormon) let alone accomplish it without complete and direct intervention of God the Father, Jesus Christ, the Holy Ghost, and countless Angels. Kudos to you.
May 19th, 2010 at 9:08 pm
[..YouTube..] beautiful artwork…i would like to see credit given to the artists!
May 20th, 2010 at 6:29 am
[..YouTube..] @awolLDSasap I am a convert to the church and was taught a main stream Christian religion all my life. I was doubtful at first because, I like you had heard many things about LDS. I read the Book of Mormon and prayed and studied and prayed and I find and it has been confirmed to me that the Book of Mormon is true. I in no way find it hard to believe that Joseph Smith is a true prophet of God. He is. Those abilities to translate the BOM were given Joseph Smith by the power of God.
May 20th, 2010 at 9:04 am
[..YouTube..] @2grace4me If you were Christian, you never understood the infinite Christ. The Bible tells us that first comes death, then the judgement. There are 2 destinations, not 3. There is NO spirit prison where people are waiting to be baptized. This idea was invented by Joseph Smith because a “stupid pastor” told him that Alvin was in hell because he wasn’t baptized. This is why you must read the word of God before you accept another gospel.
May 20th, 2010 at 9:13 am
[..YouTube..] @2grace4me The “only” passage through the veil is “Jesus”. There are NO handshakes or secret names to become exalted. Take note! Jesus said he never taught any secrets in the temple or the synagogues. If you are on a path, seeking another way, you are a theif and a robber. The Bookofmormon presents itself as a Christian text, with minor contradictions. It is the HOOK. Once they have you believing the BofM, the other doctrines enter the picture.
May 20th, 2010 at 9:32 am
[..YouTube..] @2grace4me You must understand by now that God is not worshipped in the services like protestant Christian services. Where did the worship of God go? It went towards business minutes of the church, the praise of men, the repetition of “I know that Joseph and his books are true”, and the comfort of believing that all family members will be together forever. What did Jesus say about family and friends? If you love any of these more than Me, you are NOT my sheep.
May 21st, 2010 at 12:31 am
[..YouTube..] They work hard and selflessly. Those with language skills are generally sent to where that skill can enhance the work.
“Our couples have the most wonderful experience. They become endeared to the archive staffs,” Telford said. “We get a lot of repeats. A couple that worked in Boston is now in Washington D.C.”
Nauta says they’re currently looking for camera missionaries in the Dominican Republic, Washington, D.C., and Georgia. And the need is escalating as more areas open up for filming.
May 21st, 2010 at 12:32 am
[..YouTube..] “We can’t digitize and preserve fast enough,” he said.
It’s an ideal situation for single seniors, Nauta said.
For church members trying to do their genealogy, the missionaries’ work is a gift of golden information.
“It’s a win-win for the public and for the record custodians,” Nauta said.
May 21st, 2010 at 1:08 am
[..YouTube..] Gold Book? American Indians are Jews? Ahahah! What the hell is a daym Nephite & Lamanite? Battle at Cumorah in New York? Ahahahah! Where are the remnants of these great civilizations? Where are the remains of Israelites, Jeradites, Nephites, Lamanites, Klingons, Jedis, Vulcans, & Psychlos? AHAHAHA! Mormons are so easily duped! Just bcoz your mommy & daddy are Mormon Cult members doesnt mean you have to follow their Cultist Church! Stop the Cycle of Brainwashing now & don’t pass it to your kids!
May 21st, 2010 at 7:07 pm
[..YouTube..] @2grace4me I in no way can say that Joseph Smith is or isn’t a prophet, but here;
Galatians 1:6-9
Revelation 22:18-19
IMO If the Book of Mormon was inspired by God, then I believe it should not contradict.
Therefore, if one contradicts another, then either one is false and the other true, vice verso, but if the Book of Mormon is true, then golly, we got thousands of books that are wrong.
May 21st, 2010 at 11:53 pm
[..YouTube..] The last few days have been especially difficult . . . Last night as we gathered at Dads bedside, the Spirit of the Lord was palpable and truly acted as a comforter to us. We are at peace. . .
May 21st, 2010 at 11:53 pm
[..YouTube..] It has been the hardest thing any of us has ever experienced, but we feel peace in the knowledge that . . . our Father in Heaven has promised that we will live together as a family again
May 22nd, 2010 at 1:36 am
[..YouTube..] @DrPorterRockwell Amen.
May 24th, 2010 at 2:08 pm
[..YouTube..] the book of mormon is a science fiction novel written by a socio-path.how could anyone follow/teach this as a religion.God will judge not God AND joseph smith.
May 24th, 2010 at 10:33 pm
[..YouTube..] “It must be read from a hat after having been convicted of fraud by the state of New York. “
May 25th, 2010 at 1:21 am
[..YouTube..] @ST8URCASE
We appreciate your judgments.
May 25th, 2010 at 1:26 am
[..YouTube..] @mikeyjwest
Since you have a PhD in our own history and in our own doctrines.
Show us a legit source that your claims are true. After-all, court convictions are public records.
May 25th, 2010 at 1:50 am
[..YouTube..] @DrPorterRockwell Shre! The State Records of New York record his arrest and conviction. The microfilm images were published from his trial and are available for viewing. Look up Sandra Tanner and the title of the work is “Joseph Smith’s 1826 Trial”
May 25th, 2010 at 1:53 am
[..YouTube..] @mikeyjwest
Nice try, but a “bill of costs” is not a conviction.
Keep trying, but your anti-Mormon mills will keep failing you.
May 25th, 2010 at 1:55 am
[..YouTube..] @DrPorterRockwell hahaha, way to lie to yourself. It is more then a bill of costs. It describes his arrest and the accusations and his confession. You must really hate the Truth.
May 25th, 2010 at 2:00 am
[..YouTube..] @mikeyjwest
Then back up your claims or remain a liar. Well?
May 25th, 2010 at 2:26 am
[..YouTube..] @DrPorterRockwell Umm, mr. Mormon… just because you don’t accept that a conviction is a conviction makes me a liar. You admitted himself that he had to pay a bill of costs. Isn’t that a conviction? Either he payed for a crime that he didn’t commit which would mean that he was a fraud or he was convicted of being a fraud. Either way, the guy was a fraud.
May 25th, 2010 at 12:42 pm
[..YouTube..] @DrPorterRockwell does the book of mormon teach joseph smith will judge man on the day of judgement?
May 26th, 2010 at 1:10 am
[..YouTube..] @mikeyjwest
Are you seriously going to stand behind a “bill of costs” as a court conviction?
Tell us what exactly the “bill of costs” says. Well?
May 26th, 2010 at 1:13 am
[..YouTube..] @ST8URCASE
No it doesn’t which you will claim it does without citing a chapter and verse.
May 26th, 2010 at 2:36 am
[..YouTube..] @DrPorterRockwell The trial records from the State of New York state : Same(the people) vs
Joseph Smith
the Glass Looker
March 20, 1826
Misdemeanor
Also, there are two accounts about the trial that coroborate that Joseph Smith admitted that he was a money digger. The Smith family as well as a man named Hale also confirmed that Joseph Smith was a money digger. There is a lot more evidence. Stop reading everything from mormon propaganda websites and find a credible source for information.
May 26th, 2010 at 11:38 am
[..YouTube..] @mikeyjwest Mormonism strongly discourages honest inquiry. This is a big problem & obstacle to The Church becoming a legitimate world religion. If a member asks his Bishop if it’s okay to read an outside book about the Mormon Church that has factual yet unflattering information in it, the Bishop will say NOT to read it & will likely say it is of the Devil
We Mormons are pressured to conform & thus mostly don’t question doctrine & official Church history
I’m Justa: Pro-truth Latter-day Saint
May 26th, 2010 at 2:28 pm
[..YouTube..] @mikeyjwest
You conveniently left out: “For my fees in examination of above cause” and “$2.68″
This was a pre-trial examination for a possible misdemeanor. Keyword: “examination”. Pre-trail examinations cannot deliver guilty verdicts. Misdemeanor trials are also not recored, only felony trials.
Once again, where is your “evidence” that he was convicted? As in an actual court document. Well?
Since you’re completely incapable of providing anything you resort to hearsay. “Brilliant” indeed!
May 26th, 2010 at 2:33 pm
[..YouTube..] @mikeyjwest
Since you make “how to videos” on your profile, you definitely should make a video on how to act like you have a PhD on our own doctrines and our own history.
I will be embarrassed for you mikey because you obviously have no shame.
May 26th, 2010 at 3:17 pm
[..YouTube..] @DrPorterRockwell Fraser’s Magazine in 1873 published this statement about the trial proving that Joseph Smith was found guilty. The original document has also been found. “That he had a certain stone which he had occasionally looked at to determine where hidden treasures in the bowels of the earth were; that he professed to tell in this manner where gold mines were a distance under ground,….” EVERYBODY SHOULD CHECK OUT THE UTLM WEBSITE TO LEARN MORE ABOUT MORMONISM.
May 26th, 2010 at 3:29 pm
[..YouTube..] @mikeyjwest
So now your official court document showing a guilty verdict started with a “bill of costs” then “hearsay” and now a “magazine”?
Wow! You should get this evidence out on every anti-Mormon mill out there! This is the nail in the coffin for Joseph Smith that anti-Mormons have been searching for 180+ years and you found it with your sheer “brilliance”! Wow!
May 26th, 2010 at 3:44 pm
[..YouTube..] @DrPorterRockwell I’m sorry, I don’t think I made it clear that this was a court document..” And therefore the Court find[s] the Defendant guilty. Costs: Warrant, l9c. Complaint upon oath, 251/2 c. Seven witnesses, 871/2 c. Recongnisances, 25 c. Mittimus, 19 c. Recongnisances of witnesses, 75 c. Suboena, 18 c.—$2.68″ (Fraser’s Magazine, February, 1873, pp. 229-30).
May 26th, 2010 at 5:39 pm
[..YouTube..] @mikeyjwest
I am not making this up, this is mikeyjwest’s logic.
Official court document = Fraser’s Magazine, a “literary journal”.
With the same brilliant logic, Obama, Hitler and Stalin were the greatest men to ever live according to Time Magazine.
May 26th, 2010 at 8:24 pm
[..YouTube..] @DrPorterRockwell Fraser’s Magazine was a literary journal. Look it up. The documents that were published there were court documents, meaning that the originals were published along with Joseph Smiths conviction. You are really the enemy of Truth my friend. Well, the Truth doesn’t die just because you don’t like what it says. The Mormon religion remains the laughing-stock of the world.
May 26th, 2010 at 8:33 pm
[..YouTube..] @mikeyjwest
You are a little slow on my replies, understandable.
I already stated below that your “brilliant” logic has concluded an official court document = Fraser’s Magazine, a “literary journal”.
Where are the “originals”? Anyone?
You are no friend so don’t pretend that you are. You despise those who exercise their freedom of religion. It eats you inside.
Can’t wait to see your next videos though!
May 26th, 2010 at 8:44 pm
[..YouTube..] @DrPorterRockwell I only posted 1 video… It is a cooking video and has nothing to do with anything. Secondly, believe it or not I have absolutely nothing against you. I think you are a bit of a hard head but that is not the kind of thing that makes me like or dislike someone. I don’t dislike you. I have freinds from many religions. Just because I don’t agree with you doesn’t mean that your freedom of religion eats me up inside
May 26th, 2010 at 8:51 pm
[..YouTube..] @mikeyjwest
I didn’t ask for your pathetic opinion about what you think about me, I could care less.
I called you out on your lie and your miserably went from a “bill of costs” to “hearsay” to now a “magazine” in showing an official court document. Yes, the 100s of arrests of Joseph Smith, with no conviction – unless your brilliant logic is used.
You need more videos mikey, you are apparently an “expert” in everything including our beliefs. Tell us where you got your PhD?
May 26th, 2010 at 9:11 pm
[..YouTube..] @mikeyjwest Actually, I’m not clear what you’re saying either. It appears that you have a quote in there (or is it a typo?) but it appears as if it is an ending quote ’cause it appears right after the word “document.” and there’s no closing (or beginning) quotation mark.
Are you saying that the quote is from an original court document that was republished in Fraser’s Magazine?
Are you saying the original document is gone, except for the info in Fraser’s?
I’m Justa: Pro-truth Latter-day Saint
May 26th, 2010 at 9:14 pm
[..YouTube..] @mikeyjwest I’m not clear what you’re saying either. It appears that you have a quote in there (or is it a typo?) but it appears as if it is an ending quote ’cause it appears right after the word “document.” and there’s no closing (or beginning) quotation mark.
Are you saying that the quote is from an original court document that was republished in Fraser’s Magazine?
Are you saying the original court document is gone, except for the info in Fraser’s?
I’m Justa: Pro-truth Latter-day Saint
May 26th, 2010 at 10:11 pm
[..YouTube..] @DrPorterRockwell You don’t have to be so hostile and hateful. Everybody says that mormons are nice but I have only experienced the opposite. I don’t think you understand that the magazine was a reprinting of a document from his trial which states that he was convicted. If you look for information from any non LDS website you will hear the truth about the man. I think that you are going to have a hard time getting to that Celestial kingdom unless they make special passes for rude people.
May 26th, 2010 at 10:20 pm
[..YouTube..] @justamusta I”m sorry about that, I was really tired but I can explain. From what I understand there is both a hard copy of the legal document and it was published in Fraser’s Magazine.
May 26th, 2010 at 10:30 pm
[..YouTube..] @mikeyjwest
Mikey, do you need a box of tissues with all your whining? It goes very well with your lies.
In the meantime, we are still waiting for your PhD to come shining through in coming up with an official court document instead of a pathetic “literary” magazine.
I also wouldn’t preach about “understanding” when anti-Mormons show repeatedly how embarrassing their very limited understanding is in what a legitimate source entails.
Anti-Mormon’s motto: “We googled it so it must be true”.
May 26th, 2010 at 10:35 pm
[..YouTube..] @DrPorterRockwell Wow. You are really a jerk. Good luck with that. I am through with you. If you were intellectually honest to begin with we wouldn’t even be having this conversation. Talking to you is like talking to a pile of bricks holding a venomous snake. Have fun standing in front of God as an unrepentent sinner and all around unloving jerk.
May 26th, 2010 at 10:37 pm
[..YouTube..] @mikeyjwest
“From what I understand”.
Because us fools are suppose to take your “word” because you have a PhD in our history, but conveniently the “hard copy” is lost to the world. Yeah, okay mikey.
Even though you are a novice, you are an embarrassment to anti-Mormons.
May 27th, 2010 at 1:20 am
[..YouTube..] @DrPorterRockwell I just couldn’t leave you after you called me a coward for “running away” lol.
May 27th, 2010 at 1:23 am
[..YouTube..] @mikeyjwest
That is some funny “love” Mikey or is it just another lie of yours?
I must have missed your “Christian love” from your use of “fag”, “ass”, “shitty” and “asshole”.
May 27th, 2010 at 1:25 am
[..YouTube..] @mikeyjwest
Who is laughing?
If you are no coward then prove that there is an official court document. Well?
May 27th, 2010 at 1:32 am
[..YouTube..] @DrPorterRockwell lol!
May 27th, 2010 at 1:45 am
[..YouTube..] As early as 1833 prejudice was shown in the church against the Negroes. In the Evening & Morning Star, July 16, 1833 the following statement was made “Having learned with extreme regret, that an article entitled, ‘Free People of Color’, in the last number of the Star, has been misunderstood, we feel in duty bound to state, in this Extra, that our intention was not only to STOP free people of COLOR from emigrating to this state, but to PREVENT THEM FROM BEING ADMITTED AS MEMBERS OF THE CHURCH.”
May 27th, 2010 at 2:04 am
[..YouTube..] @mikeyjwest
No one is laughing because you are one pathetic “Christian”, but we really do appreciate your “expertise” about Joseph Smith.
May 27th, 2010 at 2:35 am
[..YouTube..] @DrPorterRockwell lol. You are fantastic. Get a library card and go read about mormonism. Don’t worry, you don’t need a doctorate to learn the truth about Mormonism. You should also consider calling into Shawn McCraney’s tv show Heart of the Matter. The world is waiting to hear your voice lol.
May 27th, 2010 at 2:57 am
[..YouTube..] @mikeyjwest
Good to see you laugh instead of your whining.
Now we see where you get your PhD on our beliefs from.
Shawn McCraney and the library which explains why you don’t know what the term “legitimate source” means.
Typical of anti-Mormons to claim they know all about “truth” and know more about our own history and doctrines.
Thank goodness we have “Christian” people like yourself to “correct” us in our ways by using “fag”, “ass”, “shitty” and “asshole” as your “Christian love”.
May 27th, 2010 at 7:06 am
[..YouTube..] BEWARE!
Wolves who have been exposed for their true identity will continue to distort the truth even without the protection of their filthy hides which have been hung out to rot.
May 27th, 2010 at 7:07 am
[..YouTube..] @DrPorterRockwell
“Slaves are real estate in this and other states, and wisdom would dictate great care among the branches of the Church of Christ on this subject. So long as we have no special rule in the Church, as to people of color, let prudence guide, and while they, as well as we, are in the hands of a merciful God, we say: Shun every appearance of evil.” History of the Church, Volume 1 pages 377-379
w w w b l a c k l d s o r g / f p o c to see the entire quote of “Free People of Color”
May 27th, 2010 at 8:18 am
[..YouTube..] So to match smith’s work you need a substandard education and convince enough people it’s true. How ridiculous!
May 27th, 2010 at 1:59 pm
[..YouTube..] @mytv80 Racism within my Mormon faith can best be described as Jim Crow turbocharged. While southern Jim Crow racism kept black people segregated, those laws didn’t codify that it was because black people are inferior in the eyes of God & of the devil. Shockingly, Mormon doctrine claims these things!
Worse, the Church has never repudiated, apologized nor even admitted that this is racism. We remain racist to this day for what we have & have not said
I’m Justa: Pro-truth Latter-day Saint
May 27th, 2010 at 2:15 pm
[..YouTube..] @DrPorterRockwell The problem is, we failed to shun every appreance of evil. Blacks are representatives of the devil and/or are “cursed” with dark skin according to our doctrine & our Prophets
The fact that we have not repudiated these mean statements and appologized for them reflects our recklessness and ignorance of how cruel and hurtful we are as a faith
We need to be accountable for our actions and inactions – or we will always be viewed as a cult
I’m Justa: Pro-truth Latter-day Saint
May 27th, 2010 at 2:24 pm
[..YouTube..] BEWARE OF MORMON CULT LIES!
Joseph Smith first president, prophet, and founder of the Mormon Church:
Had I anything to do with the negro, I would confine them by strict law to their own species, and put them on a national equalization” (Joseph Fielding Smith, Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, 270; History of the Church, 5: 218
May 27th, 2010 at 2:30 pm
[..YouTube..] @justamusta Was Jim Crow the bird man that took the Golden Book back to KOLOB? I can’t keep up with the CRAZY MORMON CULT Doctrines anymore!!!
May 27th, 2010 at 4:01 pm
[..YouTube..] @DrPorterRockwell Your point is very well made. Christian he is NOT.
May 27th, 2010 at 6:42 pm
[..YouTube..] @justamusta Hey, I have a question for you. If I was with the 3 witnesses when they saw the book of mormon would I have seen it as well or did they just see it in a mind vision?
May 27th, 2010 at 7:32 pm
[..YouTube..] The book of Mormon is a LIE.
Joseph Smith was a FALSE PROPHET.
I hate that his evil deception is still conning people to this very day…maybe some motivated chrono-assassin may stumble across this comment & go back in time and perform some “wetwork” on Joseph Smith (what’s the big deal, he was destined to be shot anyway, why not make it happen BEFORE he does all that damage?).
May 27th, 2010 at 7:48 pm
[..YouTube..] @agnostaxian I’m rusty on the details about the witnesses. I believe the official Church history is that there were 8 witnesses & they did see and handle the plates.
But if you do some honest research you will find very compelling evidence that the truth is, the witnesses did not see or handle the plates
For sure the official Church telling has significant deceptions or mis-information in it. I welcome you to do your own research and decide for yourself
I’m Justa: Pro-truth Latter-day Saint
May 27th, 2010 at 8:02 pm
[..YouTube..] Actually the latest research points to the BOM being a product of Solomon Spalding and Sidney Rigdon. Researchers at Stanford University have found their wordprint in the Book of Mormon. More research is coming out this year which shows that Rigdon’s wordprint is found in other Mormon scriptures, The Book of Commandments and the Book of Abraham. If this hypotheses ends up being suuported by further research then arguments about Smith’s age and education are irrelevant
May 27th, 2010 at 8:47 pm
[..YouTube..] @justamusta No, I have been researching it and I find Joseph S. and the first mormons facinating, especially their worldview. I read Palmer’s book on Mormon origins and I was thinking that Joseph S and the others had a mind vision of the angel and the plates. I use to go to a Pentecostal church and people had similar mind-visions as well. Maybe 2 or 3 would see an angel but no one else would.
This may have been how the 1st Christians saw the resurrected Jesus. What do you think??
May 27th, 2010 at 9:46 pm
[..YouTube..] @aussieguy55 Absolutely fascinating! I’ve heard of this technology as a method of determining if various “books” within the Book of Mormon were actually written by different authors or only one author – but lost track of what the progress has been.
Do you have any sources of this information? I am VERY interested to find out more and ascertain the level of scholarship.
I’m Justa: Pro-truth Latter-day Saint
May 27th, 2010 at 10:39 pm
[..YouTube..] @aussieguy55 Hey, just spent some time reading about Spalding & Rigdon being the likely authors of the Book of Mormon. Very interesting and this will be something that I will pursue in the future. Absolutely fascinating stuff. Thanks for mentioning this …
I’m Justa: Pro-truth Latter-day Saint
May 27th, 2010 at 10:42 pm
[..YouTube..] @agnostaxian I don’t know. The human mind is a powerful and mysterious tool. I suppose people can put themselves into a kind of trance and as a result hallucinate all kinds of images.
I’m Justa: Pro-truth Latter-day Saint
May 28th, 2010 at 1:49 am
[..YouTube..] google Doe’s Account.
May 28th, 2010 at 2:11 pm
[..YouTube..] @agnostaxian
As you can see justa is “rusty on the details”.
As a wolf, he pretends to be a member, but is only here to deceive as I have shown on my profile.
Ther’re real members on here who are willing to answer your questions if they are sincere.
The events in the Bible were real and they actually saw the resurrected Savior. Joseph Smith’s vision was also real and the 3 witnesses who saw an angel. All never denied their testimony.
It is up to us to accept or reject their testimony.
May 28th, 2010 at 5:06 pm
[..YouTube..] @DrPorterRockwell So if I was with the 3 witnesses would I have been able to see the plates and the angel?? I use to go to a Pentecostal church were people “saw” angels and Jesus through mind-visions. There was nothing “out there” for all to see, it was a subjective spiritual experience that they saw with their minds. I have had the same experience. When I read Joseph S. Testimony about his visions, it sounded similar to what I and others had experienced.
May 28th, 2010 at 7:23 pm
[..YouTube..] Con man supreme. Indicted for fraud. And the suckers bought it….
May 28th, 2010 at 7:41 pm
[..YouTube..] @DrPorterRockwell Again your statements are incoherent. As a pro-truth Latter-day Saint I set higher standards: I tell the truth & If I’m unsure, I will gladly say I’m rusty. How is that deceptive?
Joseph Smith is so clearly & utterly a hoax & I’m thankful I discovered that before I became a Bishop & had to ask children if they Masturbate – sick, sick sh&*!
I’ll have a double scoop of faith compatible with fact (or why not believe the earth is flat!)
I’m Justa: Pro-truth Latter-day Saint
May 28th, 2010 at 11:01 pm
[..YouTube..] @justamusta Obviously you are a apostate if you were ever a member of the LDS faith. You make no sense . do you ever tell the truth???because nothing you have said about the LDS faith has been truthful. What would be your purpose in putting down a faith you say you once belonged to? I don’t see others putting you down except in defense of their faith. Is that what Jesus teaches? No, he said to love one another. Please crawl back into the hole from whence you came, take your friend too.
May 29th, 2010 at 10:54 am
[..YouTube..] LOL, the muslims did this already lol.
May 29th, 2010 at 12:27 pm
[..YouTube..] @wtalady Where have I lied? We Mormons are taught “every member a missionary.” But the YouTube Mission is giving the Church a bad name
The Internet has “disintermediated” information so it’s harder for the Church to keep members from the truth & the truth from non-members. When we receive facts such as DNA evidence does not support the book of Mormon, we’re not prepared & instead resort to childish name-calling
Faith compatible with fact, time to reform
I’m Justa: Pro-truth Latter-day Saint
May 30th, 2010 at 2:11 am
[..YouTube..] Joseph Polygamist Smith was a Charlatan who concocted this fictional book and used his authority to take advantage of peole’s religious beliefs. He was a Sexual Predator who married teenage girls and women already married. Mormonism cannot CANNOT provide any Evidence to support its ridiculous claim. Do your own research outside of the Mormon BOX and find out. Look for the evidence.
June 1st, 2010 at 4:24 pm
[..YouTube..] its all smoke and mirrors for your generous donation
June 1st, 2010 at 10:32 pm
[..YouTube..] @justamusta You are not LDS, it must be a fixation with you. Honestly, you need mental help. I am telling you the truth since that’s what you keep saying you like.
Just because you do not have faith doesn’t mean other people do not.. Go find a place you will be welcome–and people might believe you.
June 2nd, 2010 at 12:01 pm
[..YouTube..] @TheJoel2003
There are no comparisons with the Book of Mormon and the koran or with Joseph Smith and Muhammad.
June 2nd, 2010 at 12:05 pm
[..YouTube..] @4godaddygo
Are you dictating to us how we should use our money?
It is a blessing to pay tithe and offerings that go directly to Lord’s Kingdom and to the poor and needy. Please forgive us for our beliefs that offend you.
June 2nd, 2010 at 12:13 pm
[..YouTube..] @purbrookian or better yet as drPooh-pooh would ask, ” Have you prayed to see if the Book of Mormon is true?” AHAHAHA!!! Pray to see if it’s true eheheheh eeeeh hehehe! eeek eeek eeek Poop poop poop drPooh-pooh Head! NEPHITES!!!!
June 2nd, 2010 at 12:40 pm
[..YouTube..] @DrPorterRockwell ‘Joseph Smith was a prophet who spoke to God face to face’. AHAHAHHAH!! oh that’s good dr Poop!! Hey, is that the time when Elohim told Joe to marry as many women as he could before gettin shot up?? Did Elohim tell Joe to marry teenagers and women already married??? dr Pooh-pooh LAMANITES!!!!!
June 2nd, 2010 at 1:42 pm
[..YouTube..] @DrPorterRockwell The Bible is a collection of 66 diffrent writtings, written by at least 44 diffrent peoples over a few thousand years. The Koran, was written by Muhammad. around 632 AD Note: there are some books of the bible in the Koran. Joseph Smith had his hands in the Book of Mormon. It was published march 1830. LDS says it is as old as 2500 BC to about AD 400.
June 2nd, 2010 at 1:49 pm
[..YouTube..] @DrPorterRockwell What did the plates found by Joseph smith get dated at? And where are they today?
Have you dated them as old or older then, for say, the Great Isaiah scroll which we found with the dead sea scrolls?
June 2nd, 2010 at 1:59 pm
[..YouTube..] no i dont care how you spend your money i just wish to expose your religion to all your would be members that it is all based on lies
June 2nd, 2010 at 2:19 pm
[..YouTube..] @TheJoel2003
Thanks for the information, but where are the comparisons that you’re claiming?
Joseph Smith didn’t write the Book of Mormon.
The Book of Mormon is a record from 600 BC to 421 AD written by 32 different prophets from several groups of people which include the Jaredites (2500 BC)
The Book of Mormon has more than 500 different descriptive titles for Deity & Jesus Christ is mentioned 3,925 times in the 531 total pages which equates to every 1.7 page. Far more than the Bible.
June 2nd, 2010 at 2:20 pm
[..YouTube..] @TheJoel2003
The Book of Mormon has withstood 180 years of intense scrutiny and stands as a tangible witness that it is exactly as it has been purported to be, a Divine book written and translated by the gift and power of God.
If you want to reject the Book of Mormon fine, but don’t reject it because you think it “compares” to the koran.
Actually reading it, will give you a better perspective and if you sincerely pray, you will know it to be the word of God.
June 2nd, 2010 at 2:26 pm
[..YouTube..] @TheJoel2003
The Gold plates have never been carbon dated and they will remain hidden from the world until the Lord returns.
There will be additional records revealed to the world from other groups of people on Earth, but these will also be rejected because of the wickedness of the world who demand evidence which evidence only strengthens those who have already exercised faith.
The Book of Mormon is the litmus test for all of us. It is not on trial, we are.
June 2nd, 2010 at 2:28 pm
[..YouTube..] @TheJoel2003
Read the Isaiah chapters in the Book of Mormon and compare them to the Bible.
You will see the correct translation of Isaiah which the Bible has lost which even though it is also the word of God, has lost many plain and precious truths from the thousands of translations.
June 2nd, 2010 at 2:36 pm
[..YouTube..] @4godaddygo
Then show us the “lies”.
The honest truth seekers who trust in God will always be revealed the truth. Have you read the Book of Mormon? Have you prayed to the source of all truth and asked if the Book of Mormon is the word of God and if Joseph Smith was a prophet?
Don’t be deceived by the lies that you have read, for it is impossible to be an honest truth seeker and not come to a knowledge that the Book of Mormon is true.
June 2nd, 2010 at 3:10 pm
[..YouTube..] @imtherealthing I’m truthful & so I should leave the Church? That’s an extreme position. Nonetheless, you have no authority to dictate what I should do with MY membership. That’s between my Bishop, Stake President etc & me
Why should I leave? It’s my Church, I’m a member as much as you are. There’s a lot of good things about the Church & so I stay to work internally to help improve it’s institutional integrity & help move it out of its cult status
I’m Justa: Pro-truth Latter-day Saint
June 2nd, 2010 at 3:52 pm
[..YouTube..] @4godaddygo
The ONLY liar I see here is you …there is no doubt..you are pathetic..nothing better to do?
June 2nd, 2010 at 4:12 pm
[..YouTube..] Oh so much nonsense. The Isaiah passges that appear in the Book of Mormon because they are based on the KJV repeat the same errors that appear in the KJV.
June 2nd, 2010 at 5:01 pm
[..YouTube..] @DrPorterRockwell So if I was there with the 3 witnesses would I have seen the gold plates and the angel as well?
About the prayer thing, I have prayed that God lead me into the Truth but are we not also to test all things by scripture (1 Thes. 5:21)? The Koran also says to pray about it and Allah with manifest the truth of it to you, so are 1.3 billion musilms wrong? The test for truth cannot be completely subjective don’t you think?
June 2nd, 2010 at 6:05 pm
[..YouTube..] @aussieguy55
Why are you avoiding the question? Have you actually read the Stanford Study?
June 2nd, 2010 at 6:13 pm
[..YouTube..] @aussieguy55
I wouldn’t preach about “nonsense” when you are using the Stanford Study as a “valid” source.
If you actually read the study you would realize that you are only capable of copying and pasting from an anti-Mormon site instead of evaluating what the study actually says and why there is a big asterisk in the title of the study. Go ahead, read what the asterisk is referring to. Well?
The Isaiah passages are not the same, but continue with your pathetic “expertise” on our doctrines.
June 2nd, 2010 at 6:21 pm
[..YouTube..] @imtherealthing
Allen is only a coward, he is only capable of lying just like his true master that he serves who is the father of all lies.
He has to lie to his Bishop and Stake President to remain a member which is a very miserable state to be in.
Because as justamusta has stated: “But the fact that if the Chruch [sic] figures out who I am I’ll be excommunicated”.
The question he should ask himself is when he will figure out who he really is. We all know.
June 2nd, 2010 at 6:26 pm
[..YouTube..] @purbrookian
Of course you haven’t you are only capable of ad hominem.
June 2nd, 2010 at 6:40 pm
[..YouTube..] @agnostaxian
No you wouldn’t have seen the Gold Plates or the Angel. You would have the same heart as you do today, which rejects truth.
If you have prayed the prayer that you claim you did and follow 1 Thes 5:21 then why haven’t you read the Book of Mormon?
Yes, Muslims are deceived. There is only one Lord, one faith and one baptism – Eph 4:5.
The Spirit of Revelation and truth only comes through the heart and mind and if it anything less it is from the father of all lies (D&C 8).
June 2nd, 2010 at 8:11 pm
[..YouTube..] thanks ausie guy,and the lies are all around i dont need to pray to know that the things joseph held dear to his heart and soul were nothing more than spiritual mysticism ,brother open your eyes and when “you” seek the only one truth,you will find its been right in front of your face the whole time tring desparatly to show itself but your prayers are clouding any rational though of what if im wrong!!!!!!
June 2nd, 2010 at 8:43 pm
[..YouTube..] @DrPorterRockwell But if I wouldn’t had seen the plates then how could they be physical? Daniel & Paul saw visions that people around them didn’t see. Isn’t Joseph Smith, Cowdery, Harris and the rest seeing something beyond the physical, even in their own words? They say they saw the plates “by the power of God”, so the plates are not like the dead sea scrolls that can be studied by archeologists wouldn’t you say?
June 2nd, 2010 at 10:26 pm
[..YouTube..] @4godaddygo
YOUR QUOTE: “things joseph held dear to his heart and soul were nothing more than spiritual mysticism ..”
Oh really now?..since when do you know this for a FACT?..how do YOU know that the Bible is the Word of God?.. when did you become the judge of Joseph Smith’s heart?…you people in your hate for the Lord’s church can’t think straight and logically..for EVERY argument you point at the Book of Mormon..we can find a parallel one in the Bible.
June 2nd, 2010 at 10:28 pm
[..YouTube..] @agnostaxian
You wouldn’t see the plates because you would not be worthy to recieve that blessing…because if you were..God would have made sure you were born for that purpose in that time and given you that blessing..that’s why.
June 3rd, 2010 at 4:52 pm
[..YouTube..] @agnostaxian
What exactly are you trying to drive at here anyways..what is your motive for this discussion? – if you are not one of faith (athiest or agnostic)..then why care?..if you belong to some sect of Christianity..what point are you trying to get at?
When one sees by faith – he is given the blessing of not being consumed by the holiness of what he or she is looking at..understand? ..as with those who can see God..they need thier FAITH and PROTECTION of the Spirit or they perish.
June 3rd, 2010 at 5:00 pm
[..YouTube..] @agnostaxian
Many prophets saw God in a vision..did that preclude a PHYSICAL manifestation..no! (i.e Joseph Smith, Stephen at his stoning, etc)
To see something HOLY requires FAITH in God and that God wills it for that individual and they need to be protected not only by thier faith but also by the Spirit in order to withstand the holiness of thier respective manifestations they witness (physical in the sense we know “physical”)..you are tripping up on the words “faith” and “vision”
June 3rd, 2010 at 6:08 pm
[..YouTube..] @agnostaxian
Are you capable of reading outside of your anti-Mormon little box? Obviously not so your questions are pointless. You’ve made your decision and ask questions after questions while conveniently dodging mine.
I won’t post the entire quote because let’s see if you are even capable of reading outside of anti-Mormon literature and examining legitimate sources and taking into account other versions that support Martin Harris’s experience was literal and real.
June 3rd, 2010 at 6:09 pm
[..YouTube..] @agnostaxian
Are you capable of reading outside of your anti-Mormon little box? Obviously not so your questions are pointless. You’ve made your decision and ask questions after questions while conveniently dodging mine.
I won’t post the entire quote because let’s see if you are even capable of reading outside of anti-Mormon mills and examine legitimate sources and taking into account other versions that support Martin Harris’s experience was literal and real.
June 3rd, 2010 at 6:11 pm
[..YouTube..] @agnostaxian
Take out Whitmer and Harris and you still have 11 other people that you have to discount that testified they saw the Gold Plates.
You better do it quick before you face God. You will have absolutely no excuses for your blatant ignorance. It is impossible for an honest truth seeker to not find out that the Book of Mormon is true. What will be your excuse?
June 3rd, 2010 at 6:14 pm
[..YouTube..] @imtherealthing
He will also dodge your questions because if he answers then it will only expose that he really is a wolf in sheep’s clothing.
June 3rd, 2010 at 6:20 pm
[..YouTube..] @4godaddygo
Who are you talking to on a completely new thread?
Of course you are done, you were done with your first miserable post.
You have absolutely nothing to bring to the table. You don’t even claim to be a “Christian”, but condemn us for what the Bible says? The same Bible that you don’t even believe to be the Word of God?
Yes, run along now you hypocritical coward.
June 3rd, 2010 at 6:30 pm
[..YouTube..] @aussieguy55
I’ve read it genius, now tell us what the asterisk says. Tell us the conclusion and why they didn’t use Joseph Smith in the study?
June 3rd, 2010 at 6:36 pm
[..YouTube..] @agnostaxian Look, there are reasons for everything, o ignorant one. The reason for why only three saw it was because it was god’s decision! Perhaps people then weren’t ready yet for the truth, and therefore would be called upon by an evil spirit to destroy the records. Contradiction or no contradiction – there are reasons for everything that happened, alright? And perhaps, if you would ask of god yourself, only then would you find the answer you are looking for, whether you like it or not.
June 3rd, 2010 at 8:21 pm
[..YouTube..] @imtherealthing I am a Christian but I am not here to evangelize, just to have a discussion about LDS origins. I have been studying early mormon history for the past couple of years and find it interesting. I use to be a part of a pentecostal church where people had visions and when I read Joseph’s testimony about the angel, it sounded similar. Also, I read the way they saw the plates and it wasn’t like finding the dead sea scrolls but looked to me like a vision. I Just wanted to discuss that
June 3rd, 2010 at 8:27 pm
[..YouTube..] @imtherealthing That is what I am trying to determine. Isaiah, Daniel, and Ezekiel, Paul, Stephen had visions but others around them could not see them. They saw them “in the spirit”, ie the things they saw were not physical. That is the question, did the witnesses to the plates and angel see them like Paul & stephen saw Christ or like how that shepherd boy found the Dead sea scrolls. What do you think? It looks to me like they saw the in a visionary rapture not an archeological find
June 3rd, 2010 at 8:37 pm
[..YouTube..] @DrPorterRockwell I am sorry about the anti-mormons but I am not one. I like mormons and find early mormon history facinating. I have been studying Joseph S. and the early mormons for the past couple of years and find their worldview pretty neat. I have been reading Joseph’s testimony about the angel and the plates and it looks more like a vision to me than an archeological find. I have read both pro (Farms) & con stuff. I just wanted to talk about it but if you think I am a wolf, I understand
June 3rd, 2010 at 8:43 pm
[..YouTube..] @DrPorterRockwell But didn’t they all share a common metaphysical/visionary perspective? They were connected through family (wasn’t Hiram Page also married to one of the Whitmer daughters?) and shared a common worldview. What do you think of when Brigham Young stated how Harris and Joseph walked into a cave in Cumorah and saw many plates, a sword, a breastplate and an angel? Doesn’t a visionary interpretation jive better than a literal event?
June 3rd, 2010 at 8:45 pm
[..YouTube..] @DrPorterRockwell What questions have you asked me? I looked at some of your posts and don’t see any questions. Did I miss something?
June 3rd, 2010 at 8:50 pm
[..YouTube..] @Allmighty193 I have been praying and asking God to lead me to the truth and my sense is that Joseph was a good leader but only saw the plates and the angel in a mind-vision. I do accept Jesus as God’s revelation and try and test other revelations by his teaching. Muhammad, Bahahullah, the Watchtower organization and many others have claimed revelation and all their adherent professed that God led them to those religious groups through prayer. I want to test things with both my mind and heart
June 3rd, 2010 at 9:23 pm
[..YouTube..] @agnostaxian
I ALREADY settled “your confusion” (questions)…I told you that the plates were really a physical set of gold plates..PERIOD..so why argue with me on this..A Lattter-Day Saint who knows his history well..or do you really believe you know more of LDS history tha members of my faith like most anit-mormons because they read a FEW books that take things out of context or read our history without context from Primary sources…well?
…you are looking “beyond the mark” Jacob 4: 14
June 3rd, 2010 at 9:26 pm
[..YouTube..] @agnostaxian YOUR QUOTE:
“I have been praying and asking God to lead me to the truth and my sense is that Joseph was a good leader but only saw the plates and the angel in a mind-vision.”
You are wrong on both points..accept it and move on..a truly humble and sincere seeker bends his will to the TRUTH – the Lord…if you truly did read the Book of Mormon with real intent and a sincere desire to know the TRUTH and prayed – you would have been baptized by now..that is an ETERNAL truth.
June 3rd, 2010 at 9:33 pm
[..YouTube..] @agnostaxian
Jacob 4: 14
But behold, the Jews were a stiffnecked people; and they despised the words of plainness, and killed the prophets, and sought for things that they could not understand. Wherefore, because of their blindness, which blindness came by looking beyond the mark, …
June 3rd, 2010 at 9:35 pm
[..YouTube..] @agnostaxian Jacob 4: 14 (rest of it)
…they must needs fall; for God hath taken away his plainness from them, and delivered unto them many things which they cannot understand, because they desired it. And because they desired it God hath done it, that they may stumble.
June 3rd, 2010 at 9:39 pm
[..YouTube..] @agnostaxian
You should use your time to look into your own faith…follow the example of the sliver and beam scripture..take out the beam out of your own eye…that can also refer to..study your own faith and see properly before you try to find fault with another’s faith..
A little background on me: I was once like you before my conversion to the TRUTH..I belonged to a “witnessing ministry”..I am QUITE familiar with your tactics…having played the serpent before..I know deception.
June 3rd, 2010 at 9:43 pm
[..YouTube..] @agnostaxian
Look at all the pathetic posts (ad hominem, lies, hearsay, cursings, mockery, condoning murder and etc..) on all LDS videos including this one.
There are many wolves pretending to be honest and sincere truth seekers with “questions”.
When you avoided my questions like most anti-Mormons do and entertained a discussion with a known wolf – justamusta, I assumed you were just the same. I apologize for my assumption.
June 3rd, 2010 at 9:45 pm
[..YouTube..] @agnostaxian
I asked these two questions.
Have you put away your life experiences and prayed to God to find out if Joseph Smith was a prophet? Not a general prayer, but specifically about Joseph Smith.
If you have prayed the prayer (to be lead to truth) that you claim you did and follow 1 Thes 5:21 then why haven’t you read the Book of Mormon?
And I will add another question. If you are convinced that Joseph Smith and the Book of Mormon are false then why are you here asking questions?
June 3rd, 2010 at 9:47 pm
[..YouTube..] @agnostaxian
No read the testimony of the 8 witnesses. Their testimony is clearly not a “visionary perspective” & whether some were in the same family matters not.
What matters is what we do with their testimonies. Do we ask God specifically or do we try to “work” it out in our minds to come to the truth. I feel you are doing the latter.
The cave story isn’t verifiable like a lot of the information that you’re reading from. Hence probably why the confusion. Don’t trust the arm of flesh.
June 4th, 2010 at 11:01 am
[..YouTube..] @DrPorterRockwell I have read the book of Mormon and have prayed specifically about it like the missionaries told me to do. I have had an encounter with Christ but it was through the New Testament and the Jesus presented there. I started to study with the missionaries and read the book of mormon, praying the whole time but the Jesus presented to me in LDS theology contradicted some things in the New Testament. I sensed the Lord leading me away from the LDS church. That is my journey anyway
June 4th, 2010 at 11:08 am
[..YouTube..] JESUS AND LAMANITES IS THE USA!!!!!! GO MORMONS!!!!!!
June 4th, 2010 at 11:15 am
[..YouTube..] @agnostaxian
YOUR QUOTE: But are you saying that only mormons really follow the Lord and are the only truth seekers…? … sound a little circular don’t you think?
MY REPLY: YES!! – ONE “FAITH”, ONE LORD, ONE BAPTISM! I could care less for what “you” think…as for your “circular thinking…”
Col.2:8
Beware lest any man spoil you THROUGH PHILOSOPHY and VAIN DECEIT, AFTER THE TRADITION OF MEN, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.
philosophy = theology (i.e.trinity)
June 4th, 2010 at 11:20 am
[..YouTube..] @agnostaxian
YOUR QUOTE: “but the Jesus presented to me in LDS theology contradicted some things in the New Testament..”
MY REPLY: I know for a FACT…you do not have the Lord in your life..yet….for the Lord does not condradict HIMSELF..for had you truly gone to the LORD..you would have heard HIS voice (my sheep hear my voice) in the Book of Mormon and repented and entered the waters of baptism …you are being deceitful..plain and simple..and you know this and so does the LORD.
June 4th, 2010 at 11:22 am
[..YouTube..] @agnostaxian
Why is it that false christianity needs analogies like an egg, a triangle, or water in its three phases to EXPLAIN thier 3-headed god?..can you point to just ONE place in the Bible where ANY of the prophets or apostles use these very analogies or ANY analogies for that matter to explain the GODHEAD?..well?
June 4th, 2010 at 11:23 am
[..YouTube..] @agnostaxian
tell me..why does one not find the words “essence” or “substance” in the bible when you speak of the GODHEAD being ONE GOD…those words are NOT found in the bible in ANY of the original languages..it is EXTRA-BIBLICAL..that means outside of the bible.
June 4th, 2010 at 11:24 am
[..YouTube..] @agnostaxian
Why is it that one can sin against the FATHER and the SON but not against the HOLY GHOST as we read in the “bible”..if they are of the same essence or substance or MIND as trinitarians say ..why is it that you are not sinning against the HOLY GHOST when you sin against the Father and Son..if they are the same ESSENCE or SUBSTANCE or MIND?
June 4th, 2010 at 11:28 am
[..YouTube..] @agnostaxian
Tell me,
We learn that ONLY the Father knows of end of the world not the angels or even JESUS knows this according to the bible…so if they share the same MIND – which “is” trinatarian theology..then how can this be?
Ever think that your Hellenized god could be just that..a god made up by wicked men to destroy people’s faith in the TRUE GOD..as we learn..it is LIFE ETERNAL to know who GOD “&” Jesus Christ is..God is not supposed to be a mystery like you trinitarians teach..
June 4th, 2010 at 11:29 am
[..YouTube..] @agnostaxian
The deity of Jesus Christ was decided upon by a vote . A few hundred church leaders gathered at Nicea in 325 AD. to vote on the matter. (the vote was loaded, because most of the opposing bishops were either KILLED or EXHILED or excluded!) Representation for the TRUTH about the Godhead was allowed by only a small fraction of those TRUE Christians…we lost the TRUTH then to the pagan trinity of man.
June 4th, 2010 at 11:32 am
[..YouTube..] @agnostaxian
Jesus words on the Creeds:
I was answered that I must join none of them, for they were all wrong; and the Personage who addressed me said that all their creeds were an abomination in his sight; that those professors were all corrupt; that: they draw near to me with their lips, but their hearts are far from me, they teach for doctrines the commandments of men, having a form of godliness, but they deny the power thereof.
June 4th, 2010 at 11:35 am
[..YouTube..] @billymeier182
Aww poor Billy, the religion wasn’t “popular” enough for you and has never received the world’s stamp of “approval”?
Aww really? It was also “hard” for you to believe and too “hard” to keep the commandments? Poor little Billy, let me get you a box of tissues for your pathetic whining.
But I am sure you found something “popular” down under by dressing up like a girl and wearing eye makeup right? Does your “partner” like it too?
June 4th, 2010 at 11:37 am
[..YouTube..] @billymeier182
Glad you stopped emailing me, but the last time I saw you publicly comment you pathetically stated:
“so go fuck yourself stupid mormon fanatic. think you can lie to people and get away with it, hope you go sleepwalking on the freeway tonight cocksucker, butt-fucker, cuntrammer, you want some more, cause I have just gotten started.”
Yes, can’t wait to see more “brilliant” and filthy comments coming from a self proclaimed “intellectual”.
June 4th, 2010 at 11:50 am
[..YouTube..] @ptango101
“no one has yet to prove to me he exists”? and previously you stated: “God can’t be measured”. Yet you continue to ask for “proof”. Yes, keep continuing to be the walking contradiction that you are.
Obviously you cannot see that far. For the fields of study have found the aforementioned evidence. If you are incapable of honest research, that isn’t my problem.
Why do you care anyway? Why are you here? You have your imagined beliefs already, why hypocritically demand “proof”?
June 4th, 2010 at 11:56 am
[..YouTube..] @ptango101
Your assumption is wrong. I never said I don’t do “bad things”, I am sinner like everyone, but know the needed beauty of the Atonement.
Everyone is born with the light of Christ. The Being that you have rejected and turned your back on still gives you the light to know what is bad and what is good which you can thank Him in the afterlife.
But why wait until then when you can know for yourself that God lives? Like countless other, you can find that reality too.
June 4th, 2010 at 12:05 pm
[..YouTube..] @agnostaxian
Not a very self convincing journey that you are leading.
Your very own stumbling block is the Bible and relying on your own wisdom. Hence, why you are confused which confusion comes from the influence of the devil.
It is possible for an honest truth seeker to receive an undeniable knowledge that the Book of Mormon is true and that Joseph Smith was a prophet. You can either have that knowledge here in this life or in the afterlife, but you will have it.
June 4th, 2010 at 12:34 pm
[..YouTube..] @DrPorterRockwell DPR has invoked the classic cult tactic of saying a person is influenced by the devil! Sick cult sh&*!
It’s like we Mormons are in cahoots with Satan – trying to scare people into joining or to keep members in line. It’s as if we’ve signed an agreement with the devil. “Hi Satan, Monson here, yeah, we’d like to extend our contract another 5 years. Great doin’ biz with you Satan!”
Let’s dump our cult ways and become a legitimate religion
I’m Justa: Pro-truth Latter-day Saint
June 4th, 2010 at 1:43 pm
[..YouTube..] @justamusta
You are obviously talking about me to agnostaxian so there is no need to reply to my posts to send an “alert” to my email.
Poor Allen, it eats you inside that I have been ignoring your constant dribble. I understand, it is must be really tough on your little feelings when no one listens or cares what you have to say. Poor little guy.
June 4th, 2010 at 2:18 pm
[..YouTube..] @DrPorterRockwell Think these things thru, silly you. I sent a reply to you not to agnostaxian … see! & you replied to me saying that you’re ignoring me? If you were ignoring me, you wouldn’t have replied … see! You’re not making sense again
What’s worse is, you can’t respond directly to my views so you resort to name-calling and acrimony. That’s a red flag that the Church aint true & it can’t be defended
Time to dump our cult ways and go legitimate
I’m Justa: Pro-truth Latter-day Saint
June 4th, 2010 at 2:28 pm
[..YouTube..] @DrPorterRockwell Now you’re complaining that agnostaxian is a “wolf.” You gullible Gus. “a-g-n-o-s-t” should have been a big hint to you.
You silly gullible Gus, DPR
I’m Justa: Pro-truth Latter-day Saint
June 4th, 2010 at 2:48 pm
[..YouTube..] @agnostaxian
Since justamusta is too cowardly to send a direct post to you, I will do it for him
He wants you to know not to join the LDS Church because as he says: it is a “cult” and the Prophet/President of the Church “speaks” to satan and makes “deals” with him. So basically he is saying it is a “cultish” Church that follows satan.
You know, the same Church he claims to be a member of.
June 4th, 2010 at 4:20 pm
[..YouTube..] Dumb dumb dumb dumb dumb da dumb
June 4th, 2010 at 6:18 pm
[..YouTube..] @DrPorterRockwell Oh isn’t that nice. I don’t believe in him but he still keeps turning the wheel of my conscience. That is the very definition of a fallacious argument.
June 4th, 2010 at 6:28 pm
[..YouTube..] @DrPorterRockwell Of course I’m going to ask for proof in a being you can’t see, touch, taste or feel. You’re the one who says this intangible being exists. Your the one who says he’s the author of your moral code. One of the reasons I don’t believe in god is because he can’t be measured, but you still say he exists regardless.
June 4th, 2010 at 8:06 pm
[..YouTube..] @imtherealthing So that is it? You are right, I am wrong, end of story because you prayed sincerely and I didn’t? Also about the Trinity, have you studied early Church history? What you said is something akin to the silliness from the Da Vinci code, my friend. Also, Is it OK for me to investigate the Book of Mormon before I accept it? It just feels like you are trying to sell me a Kirby vacuum cleaner with how angry and pushy you are responding to my questions.
June 4th, 2010 at 8:10 pm
[..YouTube..] @DrPorterRockwell Come on DrPorter, you and “imtherealthing” are above this bomb throwing “you are of the devil” stuff right? I think you guys are better than that
June 5th, 2010 at 12:09 am
[..YouTube..] @Dr Porter Rockwell Yes thank you for your earlier comments, are you out to trash others but not edify the words of God. speaking personally, after leaving mormonism I had a multitude of Demons to contend with, only Christ could pull me through, not restored LDS doctrine, My stand off with DougCutter only brought it back for a moment, Dont you people believe that contention is of the Devil anyway, unlike some LDS I have nothing to hide and everything to tell, more than you could possibly know.
June 5th, 2010 at 12:46 am
[..YouTube..] @billymeier182
Of course you had a multitude of demons. You are nothing new. The same old patter happens with those who leave the Church because of grievous sins.
Did I mention that I can’t wait to see more “brilliant” and filthy comments coming from a self proclaimed “intellectual”?
June 5th, 2010 at 12:55 am
[..YouTube..] @agnostaxian
Nice quotes around imtherealthing.
His conversion story is definitely the real thing and a perfect example of faith that you can either discount like other testimonies that you have or inspire you to do the same.
For there are only two Churches. The Lord’s Church and the church of the devil. If that offends you then there is nothing I can do for you.
I can only hope and pray that you do come to the truth. For the truth does offend, but it also awakens the soul.
June 5th, 2010 at 1:04 am
[..YouTube..] @ptango101
I can see my direct questions are too hard for you to answer, but it is very easy for you to continue to contradict yourself over and over.
June 5th, 2010 at 1:11 am
[..YouTube..] @DrPorterRockwell But I could just say that I have found the truth in the REAL Jesus that is taught in the New Testament and you have a FALSE Jesus who is a brother of the devil and only a god among many not the one true God of the Bible, like many evangelical Christians come at you with I am sure. But don’t you see how this “my testimony against your testimony” thing gets us nowhere?
June 5th, 2010 at 1:17 am
[..YouTube..] @DrPorterRockwell Also, try and look at it from my perspective. I am a Christian who has encountered God through the revelation in the Bible. I look at many other religious groups that claim to be the “restored teaching/gospel of Jesus” like Christian Scientists, Jehovah’s witnesses, Theosophy, Muslims, Bahai’s and …..Mormons. Many of these groups echo heretical groups from the 2nd-3rd century, Muslims are like Ebionites, JW’s like arians, Christian scientists & mormons like gnostics
June 5th, 2010 at 1:34 am
[..YouTube..] @DrPorterRockwell you are totally deluded, this is why you have so few friends, I have a new name for you ”No Mates”
June 5th, 2010 at 1:49 am
[..YouTube..] @agnostaxian
Where have we said take our word for it? You need to work out your own salvation and trust in the source of all truth.
June 5th, 2010 at 1:50 am
[..YouTube..] @agnostaxian
The true Gospel of Jesus Christ is simple, not complicated. Confusion doesn’t exist when you have the full truth of God’s plan and salvation.
Find Jesus Christ in the Book of Mormon. For the Book of Mormon is the litmus test for all of us and it truly is the word of God.
There is no point of having questions that you have been asking if you haven’t come to the knowledge if the Book of Mormon is true or false.
June 5th, 2010 at 1:55 am
[..YouTube..] @DrPorterRockwell I understand that, I did not come here to argue. I just came on here to talk to someone about Joseph S and the witnesses to the book of Mormon. I think they had a cool worldview that’s all. I think evangelical Christians and Mormons share alot of things in common, like Joseph S. saying that the US constitution is an inspired document, amen to that!. I would vote for Romney, he would do so much better than the diet socialist in the white house now.
June 5th, 2010 at 2:01 am
[..YouTube..] @billymeier182
What is this recess?
I only add friends who are the Sons of Thunder.
June 5th, 2010 at 2:01 am
[..YouTube..] @DrPorterRockwell I look at the Book of Mormon like I look at the Koran. There are a lot of good teachings in there (The BofM and the Koran both quote the Bible constantly) but they false short of God’s Word in the Bible. I definitely don’t think the Book of Mormon records actually events in history. I also agree that the gospel is simple and a simple faith in that Gospel with bring someone to salvation. The truth is found in Jesus not complicated dogma, rituals or a church organization
June 5th, 2010 at 2:06 am
[..YouTube..] @billymeier182
You emailed me Billy that you would “love to respond to me in public”.
But here I am still waiting for some “brilliant” and filthy comments coming from a self proclaimed “intellectual”.
Disappointing that you just ended up as a big dud.
Maybe those “ghosts” that you claim to see got a hold of your tongue? Or are you still going through your box of tissues and just need a hug?
June 5th, 2010 at 2:29 am
[..YouTube..] @agnostaxian
We know why you really are here.
We don’t believe in the man made creed of Jesus Christ that modern day “Christians” believe in. We believe in the Jesus Christ of the Old and New Testament and in the Book of Mormon.
And it will be Elders of the Lord’s Church who will save the Constitution and by “their fruits you shall know them”.
June 5th, 2010 at 2:31 am
[..YouTube..] @agnostaxian
Obviously, you haven’t read the Book of Mormon if you are comparing it to the koran.
It truly saddens me that you have rejected the Book of Mormon for in doing so you are rejecting God’s word and blessings.
2 Nephi 33:10-15 applies directly here. Take care agnostaxian.
June 5th, 2010 at 2:35 am
[..YouTube..] @DrPorterRockwell Wait, a couple of ???. Why do you think I am really here? and how will the Lord’s Church save the constitution?
June 5th, 2010 at 2:38 am
[..YouTube..] @DrPorterRockwell Silly you (again). The story of Monson making a deal with the devil wasn’t meant to be literal but illustrative – because indeed the Church leadership, members & missionaries play the “Satan” card aallllllllll the time. If you study cults you’ll find that it is a classic cult tactic to invoke the devil as a scare tactic & as a tool to separate people from their loved ones
Let’s dump our cult ways and finally become a legitimate religion
I’m Justa: Pro-truth Latter-day Saint
June 5th, 2010 at 2:58 am
[..YouTube..] @DrPorterRockwell Take note this Sunday or when you watch conference. We Mormons love to invoke Satan. But where did I say we “follow” Satan? … see
Though we do not follow Satan, we invoke him a lot to scare people in to doing things we want them to do. If the devil was smart, he would get a good intellectual property lawyer and charge a royalty every time his name was used.
If “‘Ol Satan” did that, the Mormon church would be his biggest licensee
I’m Justa: Pro-truth Latter-day Saint
June 5th, 2010 at 3:07 am
[..YouTube..] @DrPorterRockwell Calling me a coward isn’t ignoring me. … see.
As you are, I once was. As I am, you may become … It’s hard to face the truth, I know because I once stood stiffnecked in the shoes of denial just like you. Try the truth – though it’s very hard, it is great and worth the pain of accepting that many things about the Mormon Chruch are corrupt and wrong.
Try the truth it’s great!
I’m Justa: Pro-truth Latter-day Saint
June 5th, 2010 at 6:11 pm
[..YouTube..] @DrPorterRockwell There not hard, it’s just when you read them you have one of those WTF moments. You’re fairly facile actually. Your just another person in the flock using a simple answer to answer complex questions. You’re a wanker but a wanker for jesus so you think that makes it okay. You blather on about the importance of god and the danger of the devil but have no proof they exist. You just keep telling us you better believe or else. Facile!
June 5th, 2010 at 6:32 pm
[..YouTube..] @ptango101
So asking you why you care and why you’re here is a “WTF moment” for you? So sorry to overload those slow neurons with simple questions.
You need to learn the difference between they’re / there & you’re / your before you use a word like facile which you are using completely out of context.
You also need to follow what I’m saying before lying that I “blathered” about the devil or that you “better believe”.
And I need to learn that talking to a bag of bricks makes me dumber.
June 5th, 2010 at 7:27 pm
[..YouTube..] @DrPorterRockwell Blah blah blah. Jesus this the devil that. You don’t need any help being dumber. Do you actually believe the great flood happened and the tower of babel is responsible for language diversity?
June 8th, 2010 at 4:14 pm
[..YouTube..] @agnostaxian I’d rather have a “socialist” than a fascist for a prez.
June 8th, 2010 at 8:59 pm
[..YouTube..] @cjs33139 Are you calling Mit Romney a facist? Or maybe Bush? If so you are just another member of the utube liberal doofus possey, if not and you love socialism so much why don’t you moooove? Get the hell out of the usa and go to Europe or Venezuela. Socialism is the worst form of government and never works. It rewards mediocity and punishes excellence and hard work. Only liberty and a free market can restore this country
June 9th, 2010 at 11:43 am
[..YouTube..] @billymeier182
Of course you are going to block me as the coward that you are.
June 9th, 2010 at 11:53 am
[..YouTube..] @TheJoel2003
It wasn’t logic, it was fact.
If you can’t recognize truth, that isn’t my problem.
June 9th, 2010 at 11:55 am
[..YouTube..] @TheJoel2003
You are “reading” a book that you have “rejected”?
And where is the contradiction?
June 9th, 2010 at 1:00 pm
[..YouTube..] @truthseeker1973
You claim evidence then show it with a legitimate source and just because you have Mormon “friends” and “family” doesn’t make you an “expert”.
A “truth seeker” doesn’t rely on anti-Mormon mills for truth.
June 9th, 2010 at 2:13 pm
[..YouTube..] @DrPorterRockwell
I never claimed to be an expert and the fact you refer to anything that doesn’t agree with your religion as anti-mormon to blow it off is an obvious hint it isn’t truth your after, but your own truth. There is so many legitimate sources I honestly can’t believe mormonism still exists. A definite willing ignorance. If I was anti anything, I would be anti-deception. I could easily make the same videos about Jehovah’s Witnesses, but they have a better argument.
June 9th, 2010 at 2:20 pm
[..YouTube..] @DrPorterRockwell
Speaking of Porter Rockwell, Young’s personal bodyguard, was quite a deviant character himself. Check out his history, if you dare. Every Christian I know isn’t afraid of arguments against Christianity, and we don’t have to resort to calling it anti-Christian. The truth supports itself. If you aren’t following what is true, then avoiding arguments against what you want to believe is probably a good idea.
June 9th, 2010 at 2:50 pm
[..YouTube..] @truthseeker1973
Exactly, you are no expert and you are definitely no reliable source for facts or truth despite what you read from you favorite anti-Mormon mill.
Just like your name, you ironically act as an “expert” with absolutely no documentation of legitimate sources for your pathetic claims.
I am an expert and would be called into court to testify so don’t take me as a fool. This is how the real world works, not some self-deluded mindset that thinks they can fool anyone.
June 9th, 2010 at 2:53 pm
[..YouTube..] @truthseeker1973
I appreciate the hypocritical lecture in “checking out history”. If you want to believe in myths then that isn’t my problem that you’re incapable of honest & objective research.
This isn’t an argument. You bring absolutely nothing to the table. You resort to lies while hypocritically calling yourself a “truthseeker”.
Real, honest critics of the Church are rare. They are true Christians who are honest in their approach & don’t spend time obsessively commenting on LDS videos.
June 9th, 2010 at 3:02 pm
[..YouTube..] @justamusta Are you a Mormon? Do you go to a Mormon church?
June 9th, 2010 at 4:58 pm
[..YouTube..] @truthseeker1973 Where do you get your authorship info on the D&C?
Thanks!
I’m Justa: Pro-truth Latter-day Saint
June 9th, 2010 at 5:00 pm
[..YouTube..] @truthseeker1973 I think according to the Stanford University wordprint study, Sydney Rigdon also wrote much of the Book of Mormon.
I’m Justa: Pro-truth Latter-day Saint
June 9th, 2010 at 5:03 pm
[..YouTube..] @DrPorterRockwell
Your display of bitterness and ego is even over the top for a mormon. You’d actually make a better Atheist
BTW I have mountains of documentation, it’s easy to find and there is so much of it. When you put on magical mormon goggles though, it all disappears.
June 9th, 2010 at 5:12 pm
[..YouTube..] @truthseeker1973
“mountains of documentation”?
Delusional disorders are treatable.
June 9th, 2010 at 5:13 pm
[..YouTube..] @DrPorterRockwell The term “Anti-Mormon” is a brainwashing lie. We Mormons are taught that anyone who speaks counter to official Church policy & history is an “anti-Mormon.” Problem is, a great deal of what the LDS Church labels “Anti-Mormon” is true
An honest definition of an “anti-Mormon” would be one who tells lies about the Church. Becasue I tell the truth that DNA evidence does not support the Book of Mormon claims does not make me an anti-Mormon
I’m Justa: Pro-truth Latter-day Saint
June 9th, 2010 at 5:16 pm
[..YouTube..] @agnostaxian yes. Why do you ask?
I’m Justa-Pro-truth Latter-day Saint
June 9th, 2010 at 5:22 pm
[..YouTube..] @DrPorterRockwell
you:
‘You bring nothing to the table!’
me:
go to utlm.org and read how Smith boasted he was more successful than Jesus.
you:
Like I want to read your anti-mormon crap!
June 9th, 2010 at 5:25 pm
[..YouTube..] @justamusta I’m honestly not trying to be rude I am just asking this out of curiosity. How do you reconcile your faith in the LDS church when you think the very prophet of that church is a charlatan? or do you think he was writing symbolically or something?
June 9th, 2010 at 5:27 pm
[..YouTube..] @DrPorterRockwell Facts & rational, critical thinking will help with your apparent delusional disorder
As you are, I once was. As I am, you may become. Yes, one day you may also see the light as I did and realize that much of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints is based on lies & deception
Learn to think critically and to use the power of discernment. It is hard to face the truth (I know). But when you do,, you will live authenticly
I’m Justa: Pro-truth Latter-day Saint
June 9th, 2010 at 5:27 pm
[..YouTube..] @truthseeker1973
Utah Lighthouse Ministry is your “mountains of documentation”?
You proved my point.
June 9th, 2010 at 5:29 pm
[..YouTube..] @ryan84160
He has been already exposed for who he really is and you can see his filthy hide on my profile.
Let him pathetically pretend to be an active member, he has that right.
June 9th, 2010 at 5:36 pm
[..YouTube..] @DrPorterRockwell
I never said it was my mountains, but they do have mountains. Such an angry guy. Careful, it might prevent you from the Celestial level and you’ll have to hang out with me on the second level with all the other mormons that are 90%’rs.
June 9th, 2010 at 5:43 pm
[..YouTube..] @DrPorterRockwell I can see his filthy hide ? I’m not really sure what that means.
Anyway I was really asking him.
June 9th, 2010 at 6:00 pm
[..YouTube..] @truthseeker1973
A typical attribute of an anti-Mormon, they absolutely have no shame.
To actually admit that Utah Lighthouse Ministry is an honest and legitimate source is an embarrassment and clearly shows your intelligence. And you really expect to be taken seriously?
Rhetorical question, I have seen enough to show that you are only capable of copying and pasting the same old regurgitation. Not capable of one original thought or capable of honest and credible research.
June 9th, 2010 at 6:06 pm
[..YouTube..] @ryan84160
Fair enough.
You were asking a question thinking he was really an active member, but he is only a wolf in sheep’s clothing. justamusta has no “faith” in the LDS church so there is nothing to “reconcile” which you can see on my profile.
But if you would rather listen to a pathetic liar who is pretending to be a “reformer”, your choice.
June 9th, 2010 at 6:14 pm
[..YouTube..] @DrPorterRockwell
I know, copying and pasting the same ol’ anti-mormon crap! You should appreciate copying and pasting, after all, that’s how you got your BOM, D&C, and Pearl of Great Price. Why am I even having this conversation? Not to be rude, but you are a couple cans short of a 6 pack. lol. I still luv ya though man, you are crackin me up.
June 9th, 2010 at 11:31 pm
[..YouTube..] @DrPorterRockwell
What Truth do you have for me?
June 9th, 2010 at 11:56 pm
[..YouTube..] @DrPorterRockwell (2 Nephi 25:23; see also Moroni 10:32). Vs (Ephesians 2:1,5) (Ephesians 2:8-9; Romans 11:6; Titus 3:5-6), (Ephesians 2:10).
(1 Nephi 13:26-28) VS (Mark 13:31; see also Matthew 5:18 (John 15:16).
(Helaman 14:27), VS (Matthew 27:45; Mark 15:33; Luke 23:44)
(2 Nephi 5:10; 25:24). Vs (Numbers 3:10; Exodus 29:9; Numbers 18:1-7),
June 10th, 2010 at 12:12 am
[..YouTube..] @DrPorterRockwell Apart from the book of Mormon, The Articles of Faith 10 Says the New Jerusalem will be built on the American Continent. Revelation Chapter 21: 1-2 tells us of a new heaven and new Earth followed by the New Jerusalem. Also see Isaiah 65:17-18 According to this, The American continent will be history. But of course you will have some argument to explain this away. Maybe a new American continent?
June 10th, 2010 at 12:50 am
[..YouTube..] @DrPorterRockwell
There were too many Contradictions, so I emailed a good chunck to you. I have tomorrow off so I will be sending more your way than. Also I have found Contradictions in your “Great Apostasy” story. I will be sending them your way aswell.
June 10th, 2010 at 12:54 am
[..YouTube..] @DrPorterRockwell What Evidence do you want? I bet I can get it for you DrPorterRockwell.
June 10th, 2010 at 1:31 am
[..YouTube..] @DrPorterRockwell Church historian Daniel C. Peterson, chairman of the Foundation for Ancient Research and Mormon Studies at Brigham Young University, suggested the Tanners’ willingness to debunk false documents even when helpful to their cause was a sign of INTEGRITY, observing, “There are some anti-Mormons out there that I hold in contempt. They’re demagogic. They spread hatred and strife and disharmony. I don’t see the Tanners in that way.”
-Wikipedia
I’m Justa: Pro-truth Latter-day Saint
June 10th, 2010 at 1:46 am
[..YouTube..] @DrPorterRockwell Silly you (again, again, again, etc). I believe in faith compatible with fact . What you are espousing is a classic cult narrative: There is no room for alternative opinion or for the leader(s) to be accountable for what they say & do. No distention, strong pressure to conform. Only true believers allowed. These are signs of a corrupt, cult organization
Again: Faith compatible with fact, or why not believe the earth is flat?
I’m Justa: Pro-truth Latter-day Saint
June 10th, 2010 at 1:59 am
[..YouTube..] @DrPorterRockwell Since I have totally dominated you in this debate, I would like to lend you a hand so you will have a better chance: When you refer to me to others, it is an obvious sign that I am getting thru to you. So if you really want to make me question my effectiveness, ignore me entirely – make no mention of me to anyone else and do not respond to anything I say. Pretend I do not exist and you will irk me to no end!
… glad to help you out
I’m Justa: Pro-truth Latter-day Saint
June 10th, 2010 at 2:18 am
[..YouTube..] @ryan84160 The most important people in my life are Mormons. The only Church I know is The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints – MY church
Since I am a Mormon, it’s MY membership and I can do what I want with it & accept the consequences. See, I have my free agency
Yes, I know that many things about the Church are false but does that mean we have to toss the Church out? No! Perhaps we can reform & finally become a legitimate religion
I’m Justa: Pro-truth Latter-day Saint
June 10th, 2010 at 6:34 am
[..YouTube..] @justamusta Please correct me if I am wrong, but it seems you want to stay in the church because its all you have ever known and all your friends are Mormons and not because you believe there is any truth to be found there.
How do you think the religion can be reformed if the founder of the religion is a proven liar ?
June 10th, 2010 at 7:06 am
[..YouTube..] @DrPorterRockwell Hello ‘No mates’ making friends I see. its good to see you are improving, well done, the lord is blessing your efforts, however you need to be more committed to truth, LIKE ME… GOD Bless…
June 10th, 2010 at 9:03 am
[..YouTube..] @justamusta Why are you a Mormon?
June 10th, 2010 at 10:05 am
[..YouTube..] The new temple — the Church’s 133rd worldwide — faces inward from the street toward a complex that includes a stake center, patron housing and offices for the Philippines Cebu Mission. To approach the temple, set on a slight rise from the rest of the complex, people go up a walkway lined on both sides by towering palm trees. Since the walkway has a series of steps, people literally “will go up to the house of the Lord.”
June 10th, 2010 at 6:49 pm
[..YouTube..] @TheJoel2003
I didn’t expect anything more, but this is just a copy & paste so where is an original thought?
You obviously didn’t research these because Mark 13:31, Matthew 5:18 & John 15:16 has nothing to do with 1 Nephi 13:26-28. It would go more with the email you sent me.
Works means “requirements”, not “good deeds” and it is clear what the Book of Mormon teaches, but the Bible isn’t clear as shown in James 2:20.
Same thing with 2 Nephi 5 & Numbers 3:10. How are they even relevant?
June 10th, 2010 at 6:50 pm
[..YouTube..] @TheJoel2003
Yes, the New Jerusalem will be on the American Continent, but a “new heaven” and “new earth” is not the New Jerusalem. That was a fail in trying to understand our doctrines.
That is an odd interpretation of Isaiah 65:17-18. A common theme with modern day Christians, they never agree what the Bible teaches. We don’t have that problem.
The Constitution will hang by a thread and America will not be around for Armageddon, but the American Continent isn’t going to just disappear.
June 10th, 2010 at 6:54 pm
[..YouTube..] @TheJoel2003
How about you actually read & research them before you send me them to me. As I showed above some are not even relevant to each other.
And how about say you “copied & pasted” “contradictions” in our belief in the Great Apostasy. That would be a more accurate statement.
The Book of Mormon doesn’t contradict itself so do you want to discuss how the Bible contradicts itself?
2 Nephi 29 is appropriate for you to read since you say you are “reading” the Book of Mormon currently.
June 10th, 2010 at 6:55 pm
[..YouTube..] @TheJoel2003
Go to the source of all Truth, not me.
June 10th, 2010 at 10:09 pm
[..YouTube..] the 163 that voted no are idiots.
June 11th, 2010 at 1:31 am
[..YouTube..] @ryan84160 We can start reforming by Monson admitting that our racism is racism. He should assemble a panel of nine LDS and black leaders to come up with a proposed statement of apology for submittall to Monson. The panel is important because when the Pope apologized for Catholic anti-semitism, Jewish leaders thought it wasn’t enough
Monson should use the statement as Official Declaration III & directly repudiate all racist statements of the LDS Church
I’m Justa: Pro-truth Latter-day Saint
June 11th, 2010 at 7:42 am
[..YouTube..] @justamusta But that racism originally came from the very founder of your religion.I mean the pope is just a man he did not found the religion and the catholic faith is not based on his teachings.
Do you want to remain a member of the Mormon church because you have been all you life and it is a social thing ? or do you actually believe Joseph Smith was a prophet of God and literally wrote his word ?
June 12th, 2010 at 10:11 pm
[..YouTube..] I don’t understand how people don’t connect the dots when it comes to Joseph Smith, the Mormon church and the ties, rituals that are taken straight from Freemasonry. Joseph Smith was a Mason as was his brother Hiram (named after Hiram Abiff?). Joseph took his story from some parts of the Book of Enoch, which is in the Apocrypha. How can Mormonism be pure when Joseph Smith used divination, a corrupt, occult like power. Smith was a 33 degree mason, which is why he received his backing.
June 13th, 2010 at 2:20 pm
[..YouTube..] @thelastdaysmessenger –Did you ever think that maybe God was preparing him for what was to come? Consider it.
June 15th, 2010 at 8:36 am
[..YouTube..] The irony is how various Christian factions use scientific evidence to argue against the doctrines of the LDS church. Yet, these same anti-LDS factions howl with anger when scientific evidence argues against all Christian mythology. This includes nonsense such as intelligent design, all “miracles” of Jesus, the lack of substantive archeological/ geological evidence for most of the Bible’s events (e.g., floods, Solomon’s cities), the existence of Jehovah/ Yahweh/ God, the list of goes on.
June 16th, 2010 at 12:53 am
[..YouTube..] @DrPorterRockwell Mormonism celebrates Christmas, has Easter egg hunts for their children and worships a Kolob God — it’s as full of crap as most Christian religions. We all need a true, reformed Christian church without paganism and make believe “stuff.” It’s no wonder the world is turning against us, they’ve had enough fairy tales and want something real. Jesus is very real and I’m ashamed of Catholicism, Mormonism and most Christian churches. My brothers and sisters, we need reformation!
June 16th, 2010 at 11:18 am
[..YouTube..] @cocreatinglife
“brothers and sisters”?
Another wolf pretending to be a member and expecting everyone to be fools.
June 17th, 2010 at 12:56 pm
[..YouTube..] @DrPorterRockwell I’m not a member, nor will ever be a member of your pretend church created by a Mason who either channelled an evil, MORON(i) spirit or stole the info from another author. “Brothers and sisters” was a reference to all who are brothers and sisters in Christ. Like most moron(i)s, you avoided Christmas, Easter and Kolob. Go talk to your white prophets and white presidents, dear doctor of deceit. Thank God I won’t see you and the other false teachers in heaven. Burn baby burn….
June 17th, 2010 at 1:14 pm
[..YouTube..] @cocreatinglife
Ah yes, the loving words from a “true Christian”. This is the true “reformation” that we definitely need.
June 17th, 2010 at 2:33 pm
[..YouTube..] @DrPorterRockwell still avoiding your Kolob God, ChristMAS and Easter SUNday issue. A true Christian is still imperfect; we aren’t Christ. Plus, my faults have nothing to do with the need for reformation. So, sir, why does your church have Easter egg hunts? Why celebrate the pagan ChristMAS and ONCE AGAIN, who is this Kolob God of yours? Was he elected God of this planet? or solar system? or universe? Please answer a question and stop the attacts.
June 17th, 2010 at 2:57 pm
[..YouTube..] @cocreatinglife
There is nothing to “avoid” when it isn’t an “issue” and it definitely isn’t our problem that you are completely incapable of celebrating the true meaning of Christmas and Easter.
For we live in the world, but refuse to let the world dictate to us their distorted versions of sacred Holidays.
In the same way, we don’t let so called “Christians” like yourself who have distorted and high-jacked true Christianity dictate to us what to believe or who is going to “burn” in hell.
June 17th, 2010 at 2:58 pm
[..YouTube..] @DrPorterRockwell
And questions are followed by this symbol ?. You never asked a question so there is no need to capitalize “ONCE AGAIN”.
Your insincerity is disgusting.
You want to mock our beliefs, fine, but don’t hypocritically state that I “attacked” while acting like you are a god in determining who is going to “Burn baby burn”.
This so called “Kolob God” does not represent our true beliefs. Your anti-Mormon mills have failed you pathetically.
June 17th, 2010 at 8:26 pm
[..YouTube..] @DrPorterRockwell Dr. Rockwell,
Is it not true that Mormons believe that God was once a man and now resides on the planet Kolob? I gather from your posts that you are a Mormon/LDS member, correct? If I am incorrect please forgive.
June 17th, 2010 at 8:50 pm
[..YouTube..] @Irishtupperware
Just like what the Bible teaches, we have the potential to become like God. God was once a man, but doesn’t reside on Kolob.
Your “marks of a cult” videos will also fail you in trying to understand our doctrines.
Have you read the Book of Mormon?
June 17th, 2010 at 8:59 pm
[..YouTube..] @DrPorterRockwell Where in the BIBLE does it say man has the potential to become like God? And isn’t Mormon belief that God does reside on some planet? Who lives on Kolob? Does Kolob exist?
As far as the Marks of a Cult series, I’ve always been fascinated by religion; especially the fringe ones. Not trying to learn Mormon doctrine from it. I was hoping you sir could shed some light on that subject.
And no, have not read BOM
June 17th, 2010 at 9:46 pm
[..YouTube..] @Irishtupperware
John 10:34, Psalm 82:6, Acts 17:28-29, Romans 8:14-18, 1 John 3:2
We can be called gods, but we are not on the same level as God the Father. We are like Him in that we have potential.
In other words, being His children we are in essence gods in embryo. In order to reach that potential, we need Jesus Christ.
We only know that God resides in Heaven. Kolob is both physical and symbolic and represents a star/planet and Jesus Christ. Abraham 3:
Are you an honest truth seeker?
June 18th, 2010 at 3:57 am
[..YouTube..] @DrPorterRockwell
And what god is the book of mormon the word of?
Some dude who was born as a man and lived on a planet orbiting some fictional star named Kolob?
And supposedly this dude became a god by polygamy and following mormonism (before the Earth was made), then created Earth, and Adam, and that humans can become gods.
Tell me, who was the god of this mormon’s god, and who was this god’s god’s god?
How far back does it go?
Maybe it involves Cylons or something?
June 18th, 2010 at 4:01 am
[..YouTube..] @DrPorterRockwell
Yeah, I’m sure you’d probably object to a pre-emptive strike on Jim Jones and that Doh Applegate idiot from Heaven’s Gate, wouldn’t you?
All I’m saying is, since the liar Joseph Smith had to die anyway, why not shoot him BEFORE he did the damage and spare the world (and millions of people) all the damage he had done by his LIES.
(Lies meaning preaching this idiotic “god” from “kobol” who used to be a man who worshipped some other “god” who in turn was a man who….etc.
June 18th, 2010 at 4:04 am
[..YouTube..] The book of mormon is not “like the Bible” is something totally different created by someone with out the guidance of God. And who says that Joseph Smith was the translator for the B of M? Are there any records of any of what the B of M is talking about? ….I don’t think so! Everything was invented by an uneducated boy…..I feel sorry for your time to create this video and sorry that you believe that the B of M is “like” the Bible….there is no comparison between the two.
June 18th, 2010 at 4:22 am
[..YouTube..] Mormons believe all kinds of weird, unbiblical things, but let me tell you a little story to give some perspective:
There once was a man who learned that it was possible for him to attain a type of “godhood”, ie to obtain the powers of a “god”, so this man strove earnestly that he may attain godhood.
He then came to realize that no matter how much he struggled, it was all in vain, for he had no power as a mere mortal to become like a god.
June 18th, 2010 at 4:24 am
[..YouTube..] @jpowell180
So he used his mind and his heart, and then came a joyous time when he realized he had the solution – instead of him trying to get to the power of godhood, he would get that cosmic, godlike power to come to HIM.
June 18th, 2010 at 4:25 am
[..YouTube..]
To do this required attacting this “god”, and so he did…then he tricked this “god” (by the name of Norrin Rad) into stepping in or on a certain machine, and sucked the power cosmic right out of this so-called “god”.
And that is how Doctor Doom became a “god”, with the power cosmic (and he also took the Surfer’s board!).
He then proceeded to shoot cosmic bolts from his hands and blew up a lot of stuff until the Fantastic Four were finally able to stop him
June 18th, 2010 at 12:19 pm
[..YouTube..] @jpowell180
We appreciate your obvious PhD in explaining our own doctrines.
Since we all know that the Bible has no “weird” things, yet you still believe in the Bible even with stories of a prophet living in a fish, talking donkey, race of giants, unicorns, satyrs, talking serpents, red sea parting, city walls falling from trumpets and Noah’s ark.
June 18th, 2010 at 12:20 pm
[..YouTube..] @jpowell180
Comparing our doctrines to the movie Fantastic Four. I don’t even need to say anymore.
June 18th, 2010 at 12:20 pm
[..YouTube..] @jpowell180
Your understanding of our doctrines comes from a cartoon on youtube.
June 18th, 2010 at 12:21 pm
[..YouTube..] @jpowell180
You can spin it all you want, you continue to condone murder.
There is no comparison to Jim Jones, heaven’s gate or the “millions” that have been murdered.
June 19th, 2010 at 2:46 pm
[..YouTube..] @imtherealthing SHEMA?
As far as the trinity goes, it depends on whose doctrines your reading up on. Most Christian theologists clearly believe in the Holy Trinity.
June 19th, 2010 at 2:48 pm
[..YouTube..] @Irishtupperware
“Theory”?..the only “Theory”..I see is the confusing mess of the trinity..which by the way has NO BASIS in the scripture..one needs to default to Hellenized philosophy to explain it..and even then it fails..not what we learn in John 17:3..God is NO MYSTERY..but it is “ETERNAL LIFE” to “know [him] and Jesus Christ”..so do you have eternal life?..if you accept the trinity..I say no you don’t..for the trinity is a “mystery”
June 19th, 2010 at 2:50 pm
[..YouTube..] @Irishtupperware
A lot of people also do drugs..but it does not make it right..a lot of people are muslim..yet we know they are wrong..just because many believe in the statanic doctrine of the trinity..does not mean it makes it right..remember..straight and narrow is the path to salvation..”FEW” be that find it.
June 19th, 2010 at 2:51 pm
[..YouTube..] @Irishtupperware
Are you suggesting the Monarchianists, Arius, Eusebius and their entourage were few in number? Infact Eusebius was certain that he would prevail with logic against trinitians, and he would haved done so but the politically dominitant trinitarians siding with Athanasius,the black Dwarf, loaded the council with their own bishops, preventing members of the other came from even voting on the issue. The vote was fixed..
June 19th, 2010 at 2:54 pm
[..YouTube..] @Irishtupperware JS-H 1: 19
I was answered that I must join none of them, for they were all wrong; and the Personage who addressed me said that all their creeds were an abomination in his sight; that those professors were all corrupt; that: they draw near to me with their lips, but their hearts are far from me, they teach for doctrines the commandments of men, having a form of godliness, but they deny the power thereof
June 19th, 2010 at 2:55 pm
[..YouTube..] @Irishtupperware
2 Tim. 4: 3
For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;
June 19th, 2010 at 2:56 pm
[..YouTube..] @Irishtupperware
Book of Mormon
2 Nephi 33:6
“I glory in plainness; I glory in truth; I glory in my Jesus, for he hath redeemed my soul from hell.”
June 19th, 2010 at 2:56 pm
[..YouTube..] @Irishtupperware
Acts 7:51-53
“Ye STIFFNECKED and uncircumcised IN HEART and EARS, YE DO ALWAYS RESIST the HOLY GHOST: as your fathers did, SO DO YE.
Which of the PROPHETS have not your fathers PERSECUTED and they have slain them which shewed before of the coming of the Just One; of whom ye have been now the betrayers and murderers:
Who have RECIEVED the law BY THE DISPOSTION OF ANGELS, and have NOT KEPT IT”.
June 19th, 2010 at 2:57 pm
[..YouTube..] @Irishtupperware
Why is it that one can sin against the FATHER and the SON but not against the HOLY GHOST as we read in the “bible”..if they are of the same essence or substance or MIND as trinitarians say ..why is it that you are not sinning against the HOLY GHOST when you sin against the Father and Son..if they are the same ESSENCE or SUBSTANCE or MIND?
June 19th, 2010 at 2:59 pm
[..YouTube..] @Irishtupperware
How can GOD send himself as “The Only “Begotten”?..did he “beget” himself?
What about Being the “First born”..was he the first born of himself?..I thought there was no begining for God?
God the Father + God the Son + God (HS)
EQUALS “ONE GOD” according to foolish trinitarianism…so let’s add that up again:
1+1+1 = 1…lol.and they call us stupid..lol
Don’t give me the 1×1x1=1 garbage because there is NO word “essence” to support this “in” the Bible.
June 19th, 2010 at 2:59 pm
[..YouTube..] @Irishtupperware
Why is it that false christianity needs analogies like an egg, a triangle, or water in its three phases to EXPLAIN thier 3-headed god?..can you point to just ONE place in the Bible where ANY of the prophets or apostles use these very analogies or ANY analogies for that matter to explain the GODHEAD?..well?
Guess your “god” is not found in the bible huh?
June 19th, 2010 at 3:03 pm
[..YouTube..] @Irishtupperware
We learn that ONLY the Father knows of end of the world not the angels or even JESUS knows this according to the bible…so if they share the same MIND – which “is” trinatarian theology..then how can this be?
Ever think that your Hellenized god could be just that..a god made up by wicked men to destroy people’s faith in the TRUE GOD..as we learn..it is LIFE ETERNAL to know who GOD “&” Jesus Christ is..God is not supposed to be a mystery like you trinitarians teach…
June 19th, 2010 at 3:03 pm
[..YouTube..] @Irishtupperware
ON ONENESS
John 17: 11, 21-22
And now I am no more in the world, but these are in the world, and I come to thee. Holy Father, keep through thine own name those whom thou hast given me, that THEY may be ONE, AS WE ARE.
That THEY “ALL” may be ONE; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be ONE IN US: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me.
And the glory which thou gavest me I have given them; that THEY MAY BE ONE, even as we are ONE
June 19th, 2010 at 3:04 pm
[..YouTube..] @Irishtupperware
Col.2:8
Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ
June 19th, 2010 at 3:05 pm
[..YouTube..] @Irishtupperware
So we see that the early saints, the church fathers, and Jesus himself in John 10 says “ye shall be as gods” quoting what he said as Jehovah in the OT (Psalm 82) and where Paul also talks of this in the context of “filial adoption” in Rom 8:9-17, Gal. 4: 5-7) and in the Fourth Gospel (cf. 17:21-23) and also found in 2 Peter where Peter also uses this language too…with all that you still want to argue the Doctrine of Deification?
June 19th, 2010 at 3:06 pm
[..YouTube..] @Irishtupperware
LDS THEOLOGY(that has NEVER changed):
The Father = Fully GOD
The Son (Jehovah/Jesus) = Fully GOD
The Holy Spirit = Fully GOD
THREE seperate GODS worthy of worship, yet we pray to the FATHER GOD in the NAME of JESUS CHRIST and receive confirmation by the Holy Ghost.
TITLES like : Eternal Father or LORD can be applied to both the FATHER GOD and JESUS, Elohim also …these are “TITLES” in MOST cases we LDS know that Lord is Jehovah/Jesus as Elohim is the Father
June 19th, 2010 at 3:06 pm
[..YouTube..] @Irishtupperware
In LDS theology we say that The Father, Son and Holy Ghost are ONE in PURPOSE not BEING…this GODHEAD is what we LDS say constitutes “ONE GOD” – a unity of GODS who are ALL FULLY GOD working as ONE unit in a GODHEAD
June 19th, 2010 at 3:35 pm
[..YouTube..] @imtherealthing I find it interesting that you say “early saints”. These “early saints” you speak of did not subscribe to Mormon doctrine, for Mormon doctrine isn’t even 200 yrs old yet!
June 19th, 2010 at 3:38 pm
[..YouTube..] @imtherealthing If God had no begining, how was he a man first? Did he create himself? And where did he live then seeing that he had to become God first to create the very planet that we all live on?
June 19th, 2010 at 3:46 pm
[..YouTube..] @imtherealthing Who’s a trinitarian? Not I. I’m an athiest who has been curious about Mormon/LDS doctrine. I’ve seen/read descriptions of your faith as written by those outside of it. I thought why not try and get some feedback from the real McCoy? I think all theology is horsecrap, yours is just a bit more entertaining. I just love the floating cities, magic underwear, celestial orgies, man-becoming-gods tripe that you preach. It puts your beliefs closer in line w/ Scientology than Chrisianity
June 19th, 2010 at 3:48 pm
[..YouTube..] @imtherealthing LDS theology has never changed? Didn’t the church split in the 19th century? One side became the Mormon church and the other LDS. Or was that just over polygamy?
June 19th, 2010 at 4:00 pm
[..YouTube..] @Irishtupperware
You know not your scriptures..thus why you walk in darkness..anyone who accepts the lies of false christianity..paid ministry, trinity, sola scriptura…etc..and does not pray to know the truth by the POWER of the HOLY GHOST, but depends on their own learning..will always be lost….so are you going to answer my questions or keep running from the truth?
June 19th, 2010 at 4:02 pm
[..YouTube..] @Irishtupperware
Ahh…you adhere to the religion of athiesm..sorry can’t help you…you are lost..just one question..why bother attacking The Church of JESUS CHRIST of Latter-day Saints…surely from the thousands that exsit..why the Lord’s church?
June 19th, 2010 at 4:04 pm
[..YouTube..] @Irishtupperware
YOUR QUOTE:
One side became the Mormon church and the other LDS.
MY REPLY: your ignorance is showing….no such thing..some people left the church through what we call “apostacy”..they were never and will NEVER be LDS
June 19th, 2010 at 7:27 pm
[..YouTube..] @Irishtupperware
Ah yes, the atheist being exposed hence why you wouldn’t answer my question.
Tell me self proclaimed “atheist”, what evidence and proof can you supply that atheism is accurate and correct?
I will predict you will dodge the question, but continue to shotgun questions for what purpose? To show the miserable state that you are in, nothing more.
June 20th, 2010 at 12:46 am
[..YouTube..] @DrPorterRockwell sects (I’m looking at you Pentacostals) have even been so foolish as to do “biblical math” to guess the age of the Earth at 6-10 thousand years old. Something we know today is way, way off in the same sense as if I said the distance from NY to LA is six miles! Now we know it’s 4-5 billion yrs old and wasn’t created in 6 days but millions of years.
What facts can you present to convince others LDS doctrine is 100% true?
June 20th, 2010 at 12:50 am
[..YouTube..] @DrPorterRockwell I’m here, ask away!
June 20th, 2010 at 1:32 am
[..YouTube..] @Irishtupperware
Hypocritical that you demand “facts”, but are not able to give any for the imagined state of atheism.
Typical atheist, can you be anymore predictable?
June 20th, 2010 at 1:32 am
[..YouTube..] @DrPorterRockwell
Tell me, you are obviously not 100% solid in your beliefs or an honest truth seeker, but you are still willing to wait to see what happens when you pass on to the next life? You’ve come to peace with this obvious confusion?
June 20th, 2010 at 1:34 am
[..YouTube..] @Irishtupperware
It is amusing that you trust in the arm of men so easily, yet question everything that has to do with religion. This is only a sign of bitterness, not someone who seeks truth.
For my background in science that I absolutely love, I intertwine my faith in what mankind has discovered and the more I learn, the more I realize we know nothing.
June 20th, 2010 at 1:38 am
[..YouTube..] @DrPorterRockwell
Oh yes, we pretend we have it all figured out like radiocarbon dating, but the reality is that these are only educated guesses & theories
Radiocarbon dating is based on the “constant” decay of carbon-14. Keyword is constant. Its assumed the decay is constant throughout time. Now tell me, what is constant in this world? We even see mutations in genes in a person’s lifetime that we thought only occurred over generations
Don’t be a fool & believe everything science tells you.
June 20th, 2010 at 1:40 am
[..YouTube..] @Irishtupperware
An atheist psyche is easy to understand.
Raised believing in Santa Clause & when discovered that he doesn’t exist, is completely devastated causing the common Santa Clause syndrome.
Hears about God & equates it to the previous Santa Clause devastation.
Atheists and the like who obsessively comment on LDS videos only show they are empty & lost inside while asking insincere questions.
The reality is that you first need to get over your Santa Clause syndrome then come back.
June 20th, 2010 at 1:41 am
[..YouTube..] @DrPorterRockwell If one is to dedicate his/her entire life to a philosophy, then yes; facts are in demand. I gave you facts, now my turn. Just like in Silence of the Lambs, “Quid pro quo doctor”.
June 20th, 2010 at 1:45 am
[..YouTube..] @Irishtupperware
This isn’t a movie and I know it is hard to bring an atheist back to reality, but you have given no “facts”and yet you expect to take me as a fool.
June 20th, 2010 at 1:48 am
[..YouTube..] @DrPorterRockwell I’m not an honest truth seeker because I’m not buying what your selling? What if you pass on only to discover that your version of Christianity is false and St. Peter pulls the lever on you? No one knows if there is even an afterlife, I don’t know and you don’t know. You have your beliefs, but that’s exactly what they are. Your beliefs originated on a questionable concept twisted by a 19th century lunatic.
And I’m still waiting for this big question(s) of yours.
June 20th, 2010 at 1:52 am
[..YouTube..] @DrPorterRockwell Background in Science, eh? What from BYU!?! Is this background from a legitamate college?
Not exactly sure what you mean when you say “trust in the arm of men”. Do I believe in what mortal scientists discover about life and our universe? Then yes I do. Their conclusions can be proven. Yours cannot.
June 20th, 2010 at 1:55 am
[..YouTube..] @Irishtupperware
You are clearly not capable in following my replies. I’ve asked you questions that you have conveniently avoided. Yet, you state you had a hard time finding them?
Again, lose the Santa Clause syndrome then maybe you will start to realize not everyone is trying to “sell” you everything. For you came here and replied to my post with the same anti-Mormon rhetorical questions that an anti-mill trained you in doing. Yes, honest truth seeker, continue on.
June 20th, 2010 at 1:56 am
[..YouTube..] @DrPorterRockwell Never said you were a fool.
Fact: Earth is billions of years old. There’s your fact for the day. Where’s yours?
It’s getting late and I’ll be retiring for the night. We can discuss this further tomorrow after you get back from tabbernacle and you tithe yourself into spiritual extortion. Gnite Doc!
June 20th, 2010 at 2:02 am
[..YouTube..] @Irishtupperware
Of course you believe in mortals, I wouldn’t expect anything less.
As a scientist, I wouldn’t want you to believe in me for that is only trusting in the arm of flesh.
June 20th, 2010 at 2:04 am
[..YouTube..] @Irishtupperware
There is nothing to discuss, you need to retire permanently into your little atheist made up world. When you wake up, don’t worry about coming directly to comment on LDS videos.
Go read the Book of Mormon – that is your only hope. Or remain afraid and in darkness, that is the beauty of free agency that God has given you who you have turned your back on completely because of Santa Clause.
In the least, find something to be 100% solid about.
June 20th, 2010 at 2:05 am
[..YouTube..] @DrPorterRockwell I shouldn’t listen to what science teaches, huh? Tell me where do I get my facts from? People in the know, or theorists.
You and the fundamentalists don’t acknowledge carbon-dating and other such scientific methods because they cave in your little world.
“we see mutations in genes in a person’s lifetime…” there’s the theory of evolution right in front of you.
June 20th, 2010 at 2:06 am
[..YouTube..] @DrPorterRockwell Again, my apologies for missing your questions. Your “brother” spammed up the comment thread. Question away.
June 20th, 2010 at 2:08 am
[..YouTube..] @Irishtupperware
If you are going to believe in science, then at least understand some of it.
There are two forms of evolution and I believe in one of them.
June 20th, 2010 at 2:08 am
[..YouTube..] @DrPorterRockwell Well, that’s all there is until proven otherwise.
June 20th, 2010 at 2:09 am
[..YouTube..] @DrPorterRockwell WHERE ARE YOUR QUESTIONS, DOC?
June 20th, 2010 at 2:10 am
[..YouTube..] @DrPorterRockwell 2 forms of evolution? Darwinian and what?
June 20th, 2010 at 6:06 am
[..YouTube..] Rockwell has issues
June 20th, 2010 at 4:09 pm
[..YouTube..] he who has an ear to hear let him or her hear!
June 20th, 2010 at 9:23 pm
[..YouTube..] @kramd1 I’m telling ya these LDS are awfully touchy. Ask a few questions about what they believe and they tuck their tail between their legs and quiver. I must’ve gotten his magical panties in a huge bunch!!!
Maybe Doc will come back after he gets his balls out of one of his wives’ purse. You too Imtherealthing, you still got questions or did you puss out too?
June 20th, 2010 at 9:25 pm
[..YouTube..] @brotherfrank62 I’ve got ears and I’m listening.
Can you help me confirm/deny some of Mormon beliefs/doctrine?
June 21st, 2010 at 1:00 am
[..YouTube..] Tell me some more lies:
Always propagating half truths and inaccurate accounts of Joseph Smiths wild events. The LDS Never show JS with his head in a hat translating the golden tablets or the gun battle at Cathage Jail. Or showing Smith with Mormon battalion in uniform with sword and gun.
The real story of Joseph Smith is full of : revolt, violence, murder, sex , raids ,power & controversy.
the real version would make a good x rated film.
June 22nd, 2010 at 11:29 pm
[..YouTube..] I just wrote a holy book.
June 23rd, 2010 at 6:04 pm
[..YouTube..] @Irishtupperware Sure. I will try to answer your questions.
June 23rd, 2010 at 6:08 pm
[..YouTube..] @Irishtupperware Ooops. Magical panties? I will answer your questions but I admit I am touchy about profane language. The things I believe are sacred to me, and while I do have a great sense of humor, I take Jesus Christ, the prophets, the Book of Mormon and prayer seriously. Do you agree?
June 23rd, 2010 at 6:15 pm
[..YouTube..] Jesus Christ is the Son of God and our Savior. Joseph Smith was His faithful, honest servant, just as Moses, was. Thank you for this video. I hope it will be received with the same Spirit with which it was given.
June 23rd, 2010 at 6:17 pm
[..YouTube..] @vinniemdbiz See my other comments if you want to know more.
June 23rd, 2010 at 10:55 pm
[..YouTube..] @MsEndure2end I didn’t think “panties” was profane, but I’ll behave. All I ask is don’t be condescending or arrogant.
1) I’m confused on the Kolob issue. I thought it was Mormon/LDS belief that God now resides on an alien planet named Kolob. Dr Rockwell says no, is this mainstream LDS doctrine?
2) Is it not LDS belief that there once was (or maybe it’s still there) a “floating” city? The name of it eludes me right now. This city literally, if I’m correct here; floats(floated) in the clouds.
June 24th, 2010 at 12:11 am
[..YouTube..] @Irishtupperware I hope not to be condescending or arrogant, but I am confident in referring to the scriptures. I believe what I read in Abraham 3:2-18 about the sun, moon, and stars where “he saw great stars and one of them was nearest unto the throne of God; and the name of the great one is Kolob.” I hope that helps. I am far from knowing it all, but I have never read about a floating city in the scriptures. Do you have a copy of the scriptures? The Spirit is strong there.
June 24th, 2010 at 12:36 am
[..YouTube..] @MsEndure2end I’m not an expert on the bible, I’ve never heard of the book of Abraham.
So Kolob is a star? Does God live there? Can it be found with a telescope in the night sky? I’m assuming if he does live there, he lives on a planet orbiting the star Kolob?
-Do you believe Jesus and Lucifer/Satan are brothers?
-Was the garden of eden located within the present day United States (Missouri I think)?
-Prior to the birth of Jesus, did God impregnate the “virgin” Mary the old fashioned way?
June 24th, 2010 at 1:40 am
[..YouTube..] @MsEndure2end
How do you know when it’s the Holy Ghost talking to you and not just your own brain?
June 24th, 2010 at 1:58 am
[..YouTube..] The Holy Ghost is a flake! Apparently he’s got other, more important prayers to answer. Son of a bitch… won’t even return my calls. He leaves me no choice but to conclude that he’s either dead, or never actually existed, ’cause I can’t get a word out of the bastard one way or the other!
June 24th, 2010 at 11:55 am
[..YouTube..] @cocreatinglife
You can’t speak to me “intelligently”?
Obviously, when you state “Leave me alone & go a black person for Smitty.”
Must be a language that I don’t understand?
June 24th, 2010 at 12:14 pm
[..YouTube..] @MsEndure2end
Save your answers for those who are honest and sincere. For if you scroll down you will see the wolves for who they really are as your two questions remained unanswered, yet they will demand answers from you.
Truth draws these anti-Mormons in like a bug zapper. Truth hurts their wicked ways, but they keep coming back in swarms.
June 24th, 2010 at 12:24 pm
[..YouTube..] @thelastdaysmessenger
Really not a follower of your own words eh? So who is going to expect you to be a follower of Jesus Christ?
Nice try, your lips draw near to the Lord, but your heart is far from Him.
June 24th, 2010 at 12:31 pm
[..YouTube..] Joseph Smith Claims that God directed him in writing the Book Of mormon stating in it that native americans are the decendants of Israelites. Also Mormons believe in and do Genealogy based on DNA but will deny the DNA evidence that ALL native americans are traced to EAST ASIAn descent. there is not even a 1% of hebrew in them.
in Deuteronomy 18:22 — “When a prophet speaks in the name of the Lord, if the thing does not come about or come true, that is the thing which the Lord has not spoken.
June 24th, 2010 at 12:34 pm
[..YouTube..] @uzamakin
You are right, the Book of Mormon isn’t entirely like the Bible. But it is the same Gospel from the same God.
For if you’re a follower of Jesus Christ & believe in Him & in the Bible then you will believe in the Book of Mormon. For the Lord knows His sheep and His sheep will know His words.
If you’re an honest truth seeker then why have you not read the Book of Mormon? Why rely on the world’s opinion? Why not rely on God to know if it is true & if Joseph Smith was the translator?
June 24th, 2010 at 12:52 pm
[..YouTube..] I believe in Jesus with all my heart and I know He speaks to me and guides me but I was warned by CHrist himself of false prophets and that by their words will the truth be known! When a man claims such things as native americans are israelites but it is proven false no matter how good the church makes you feel. A false prophet is a false prophet!! there are no linguistics of hebrew in indians no artifacts or tools found ever to support his claim and the DNA now proves the bloodline false
June 24th, 2010 at 1:11 pm
[..YouTube..] The Lord loves mormons zeal for him but is saddened by their lack of wisdom.
I know that in the LDS church the Bible is only used as a tool for supporting verses in the book of mormon. Prophecy is something that happens according to the words of God through his chosen, and comes true through the course of time. The LDS church is at a cross roads you cant have it both ways either you believe joseph smith is true in which case DNA has to be false.Except Then LDS Genealogy would have to go…..
June 24th, 2010 at 3:11 pm
[..YouTube..] @TheLudevoxx1
It may interest you, then, to learn that the Israeli archaeological community is virtually unanimous in its refutation of the biblical narrative’s historic accuracy.
June 24th, 2010 at 6:15 pm
[..YouTube..] @Irishtupperware The Book of Abraham is in the Pearl of Great Price. The scriptures contain four standard works: The Bible, The Book of Mormon, The Doctrine and Covenants and The Pearl of Great Price. I thought you had a copy of those since your questions are so deep. Your questions sound like you might be an astronomer or a scientist. Many of the leaders of our church, and friends of mine who are members in good standing are scientists. I am just wondering, why are you asking?
June 24th, 2010 at 6:37 pm
[..YouTube..] @Dustiniusprimus I believe that the Holy Ghost answers in different ways, always in a way pleasing to God, and a testimony of the truth and of the reality of Jesus Christ. The Holy Ghost must be petitioned in faith with honest intent. If that doesn’t answer your question, the Bible Dictionary has a clear explanation.
June 24th, 2010 at 7:35 pm
[..YouTube..] @DrPorterRockwell I imagine that just maybe someone is sincere in asking and merely hiding behind bravado or something. It seems that if some would either read or talk to a missionary, they would get answers. Thanks for the warning because I do realize that some just want to stir up anger, or continue to persecute believers. I won’t let it affect my testimony, or become contentious or argumentative about it, and it is good to have an honest dialog about the truthfulness of the Church.
June 24th, 2010 at 7:59 pm
[..YouTube..] @TheLudevoxx1
Why do you lie? Why do you act as an “expert” in genetics? Are you?
Just because you are incapable of honest and objective research doesn’t mean that there is no DNA evidence. And when it is clearly shown, you still will reject the Book of Mormon because just like the wicked people of old, you also reject the Lord’s Prophets of today.
June 24th, 2010 at 7:59 pm
[..YouTube..] @TheLudevoxx1
Fools only mock and a so called follower and believer in the Savior would not find fault in our beliefs and rely on the philosophies of men, mingled with scriptures.
June 24th, 2010 at 8:01 pm
[..YouTube..] @TheLudevoxx1
Now you are an “expert” in speaking for us eh? We appreciate you explaining to the faithful members how we use the Bible.
You will still reject the Book of Mormon even at Judgement Day for when the Lord will ask, why did you trust in the arm of flesh more than trusting in Me? You have no excuses now and you will have no excuses then.
June 24th, 2010 at 8:41 pm
[..YouTube..] @DrPorterRockwell A thinking person’s reply. I appreciate your intelligent answers.
June 25th, 2010 at 1:03 am
[..YouTube..] @MsEndure2end
I appreciate it, but I wouldn’t call them intelligent answers. As LDS we stand for truth & we refuse to let so called “Christians” & “experts” speak for our own doctrines & our own history.
True Christians are out serving the poor & doing good in the world. People that are solid in their own beliefs are not here finding fault in ours so it is very telling & a very clear reflection of those who obsessively find fault on LDS videos.
Honest truth seekers are rare in these parts.
June 25th, 2010 at 1:08 am
[..YouTube..] @Dustiniusprimus
Just like ravenous dogs, they turn on each other. Always entertaining.
Dustiniusprimus, the self proclaimed “expert” making another pathetic claim with absolutely no source.
This delusional mind believes that if he just speaks it is automatically true.
June 25th, 2010 at 4:20 pm
[..YouTube..] @DrPorterRockwell
Ravenous dogs? Please do elaborate.
And where have I proclaimed myself an “expert” or made a groundless assertion? Can you explain to me how I am the one who is delusional? More importantly, are you capable of a coherent argument? While you say you, “refuse to let [experts{?}] speak for [your] doctrines and… history”, you have yet to say anything of substance in defense of either. You show only a mean-spirited bitterness toward anyone critical of your faith.
June 25th, 2010 at 5:09 pm
[..YouTube..] @MsEndure2end “Your questions sound like you might be an astronomer or a scientist.”
I thought we agreed to not be condescending?
My questions are just out of curiousity. I’ve heard/read things about your faith and I would rather get info from LDS instead of obtaining all my info from one source. Don’t worry, I’m not writing a book or making another anti-LDS video. I guess mainly I’m interested in how Mormon doctrine differs from mainstream Christianity. So could you answer my questions?
June 25th, 2010 at 5:16 pm
[..YouTube..] @DrPorterRockwell Doc, you’re back!
“And when it is clearly shown”
Are you suggesting that genetic research is not far enough along yet to support your claims? One can try shoving a square peg in a round hole all day and it still won’t work! DNA evidence contradicts the Adam & Eve story too, so you and mainstream Christians have that in common.
June 25th, 2010 at 5:20 pm
[..YouTube..] @DrPorterRockwell I can’t answer what was never asked!!!
If you still got questions, I’d be more than happy to answer. Don’t go around whining that I never answered you.
June 25th, 2010 at 5:22 pm
[..YouTube..] @Dustiniusprimus Excuse Doc, he gets a little touchy
June 25th, 2010 at 6:00 pm
[..YouTube..] @Dustiniusprimus
No one is interested in hearing your predictable whine.
You admit that you’re no expert and that you rely on eye-witness accounts/hearsay with so called “documents”. Yet, on another post of a LDS video you hypocritically state: “Someone else can decide if I’m an expert”.
Now, you clearly exposed why you are here. You are here to deceive others for you even admit you are no expert..
The Gospel needs no defense and honest critics of our faith don’t resort to pathetic lies.
June 25th, 2010 at 6:17 pm
[..YouTube..] @MsEndure2end
As you scroll down, Irish isn’t here out of “curiosity” or to have questions answered that he’s reading off an anti-Mormon playbook “What to ask Mormons”
He has asked the same questions, answers were given to him with questions he avoided while claiming he “never saw” them
He has been exposed as a wolf who pretends to be “sincere”, but underneath is a miserable atheist . When called out for who he is, will resort by saying “to get your balls out, puss out & magical panties”.
June 25th, 2010 at 10:06 pm
[..YouTube..] @DrPorterRockwell Doc, you came up with your first fact. I’m an athiest. When exactly did YOU call ME out? Your the one who ran off screaming like a little girl! Why is it so hard to get one of you to confirm/deny your beliefs. Are you afraid I’ll ridicule you? Would you even care if I did?
June 25th, 2010 at 10:11 pm
[..YouTube..] @DrPorterRockwell Have you read the Book of Mormon?
No, I have not
June 25th, 2010 at 10:13 pm
[..YouTube..] @DrPorterRockwell Are you an honest truth seeker?
Yes, I am
June 25th, 2010 at 10:15 pm
[..YouTube..] @DrPorterRockwell Why are you avoiding my question?
I’m going through the trouble to find these questions of yours. So far, not much
June 25th, 2010 at 10:22 pm
[..YouTube..] @imtherealthing YOUR QUOTE: …no such thing…some people left the church through what we call “apostscy”..they were never and will NEVER be LDS.
MY REPLY: So if they left the church, how could they have never been a part of it? You can’t leave something you were never a part of, right?
June 25th, 2010 at 10:24 pm
[..YouTube..] @DrPorterRockwell Ah yes, the atheist being exposed hence why you wouldn’t answer my question.
Tell me self proclaimed “atheist”, what evidence and proof can you supply that atheism is accurate and correct?
I will predict you will dodge the question, but continue to shotgun questions for what purpose? To show the miserable state that you are in, nothing more.
Ah, here is were we start looking for the answer to a question never asked. You must watch a lot of Jeopardy!
June 25th, 2010 at 10:29 pm
[..YouTube..] @DrPorterRockwell Typical atheist, can you be anymore predictable?
Rhetorical question. No answer necessary
June 25th, 2010 at 10:34 pm
[..YouTube..] @DrPorterRockwell Tell me, you are obviously not 100% solid in your beliefs or an honest truth seeker, but you are still willing to wait to see what happens when you pass on to the next life? You’ve come to peace with this obvious confusion?
OK, here we are.
Well, I’m 100% sure that Joseph Smith does not sit on the judgement panel! Since I do not believe in an afterlife, I see no reason to get after-life insurance.
June 25th, 2010 at 10:38 pm
[..YouTube..] @DrPorterRockwell It is amusing that you trust in the arm of men so easily, yet question everything that has to do with religion. This is only a sign of bitterness, not someone who seeks truth.
Doc, men are real. Scientific method is real and can be proven. Religion is a theory. A theory to answer the age old questions of who are we, why are we here, how did we get here, and what happens after we die.
June 25th, 2010 at 10:41 pm
[..YouTube..] @DrPorterRockwell Oh yes, we pretend we have it all figured out like radiocarbon dating, but the reality is that these are only educated guesses & theories
Educated guesses and theories, eh? I think that more accurately describes religion. Again, science=based off fact. Religion=theories proposed due to a lack of factual evidence.
June 25th, 2010 at 10:44 pm
[..YouTube..] @DrPorterRockwell Raised believing in Santa Clause & when discovered that he doesn’t exist, is completely devastated causing the common Santa Clause syndrome.
Hears about God & equates it to the previous Santa Clause devastation.
I like your analogy here. Why are kids told about Santa Claus? To keep them in line. By putting in their head they’re under constant surveillance not only in body but in mind. Does this sound familiar at all to you, Doc?
June 26th, 2010 at 4:28 pm
[..YouTube..] @Irishtupperware
YOUR QUOTE: “I’m going to come to truth via prayer? What from some voice in my head?”
MY REPLY: You ignoramus…all scripture..ALL religion is based on FAITH..FAITH derived from prayer and revelation you moron..you are such a simpleton..you should try thinking before you comment.
June 26th, 2010 at 4:43 pm
[..YouTube..] @imtherealthing I don’t support the Catholic Church. I thought if you were interested in THEIR concept of apostic succession, that video would answer your quesions better than I could.
When you say “PRIMARY sources of the period”, this can be confirmed by those OUTSIDE of the LDS community?
June 26th, 2010 at 4:51 pm
[..YouTube..] @imtherealthing Ah yes faith, the belief in the unsubstantiated. So when you pray and you receive “revelation” from your prayers, what your really telling me is your hearing voices inside your head? Here in the real world, we call that schizophrenia and it is a very serious mental illness. If this was known in Joseph Smith’s time, your church may never have existed and you would be blindly following someone else’s tripe, wouldn’t you?
June 26th, 2010 at 5:06 pm
[..YouTube..] @Irishtupperware
Let’s not forget..that it is YOU who belongs to the SMALL group of atheists ->the 10% of the WORLD population that believes in no God..don’t believe me?..go look it up yourself…you part of the 10% that “90%” think differently from..surely don’t tell me that your “10%” are the intellectuals…lol
June 26th, 2010 at 5:09 pm
[..YouTube..] @Irishtupperware
Did you not watch that video on the DNA and Book of Mormon issue I sent you by leading “EXPERTS” in DNA..please..go EDUCATE your stupid self..google is not your friend..ah..armchair academics..they think google will pass off as a good education…lol
June 26th, 2010 at 5:29 pm
[..YouTube..] @imtherealthing You are referring to the presentation by Ryan Parr?
The poster of that video; fairLDSorg; acknowledges that DNA evidence proves Native Americans are descended from Asiatic peoples and not Israelites. Oops! How does that shoe of yours taste?
June 26th, 2010 at 5:54 pm
[..YouTube..] @Irishtupperware
No moron…try this search:
Does DNA Evidence refute the authenticity of the Booke of Mormon? Part 1/5
I would advise you to LISTEN and LEARN from the whole series..then come back here after you have eaten humble pie..and let’s discuss it.
June 26th, 2010 at 5:55 pm
[..YouTube..] @Irishtupperware
Try:
Does DNA Evidence refute the authenticity of the Booke of Mormon? Part 1/5
June 26th, 2010 at 5:56 pm
[..YouTube..] @Irishtupperware
LISTEN and LEARN…
June 26th, 2010 at 6:08 pm
[..YouTube..] @imtherealthing I found a six part series, is that the right one?
Hmm, a vid made by “mormon defenders”, I wonder how this is going to turn out?!? I’ll watch. Are there any geneticists OUTSIDE of the Mormon church who side with you on this issue? Surely if these are facts, the whole scientific community would concur, would they not?
June 26th, 2010 at 7:19 pm
[..YouTube..] @Irishtupperware
There are geneticists that are with FAIR and they have laid several arguements that show that the videos created by anti mormons are nothing more than a strawman. The DNA has limits and two thousand years are not one of them.
June 26th, 2010 at 7:35 pm
[..YouTube..] @LDS4Life71 The DNA has limits and two thousand years are not one of them.
Could you explain what you mean by this?
Coud you also expound on what “FAIR” is? Is it an acronym for an organization or did you just use incorrect grammer?
When unbiased opinions support your claims, I’ll take them more seriously.
June 26th, 2010 at 7:59 pm
[..YouTube..] @Irishtupperware
FAIRLDSdotORG
Scholars defend the position of the church and why and show EVIDENCES thereof.
June 26th, 2010 at 8:00 pm
[..YouTube..] @Irishtupperware
there will always be bias, I’m LDS. I suggest going to the website and reading articles.
June 26th, 2010 at 8:21 pm
[..YouTube..] @kramd1 Sure. Faith is believing in things not seen. If you want proof, you won’t find it in any religion. Maybe you are contemplating the Mormon story by viewing this video because you are searching for more than just physical evidence. Prayer is a powerful force. Go for it.
June 26th, 2010 at 8:23 pm
[..YouTube..] @Irishtupperware Yes, I believe we are all brothers and sisters spiritually.
June 26th, 2010 at 8:27 pm
[..YouTube..] @Irishtupperware Sure. Happy to have this dialog with you. It has been enlightening
BTW, as I scroll through the comments, the thought keeps coming to me that you would find most of your answers in the Topical Guide and Bible Dictionary. Also, on the LDS.org web site, you can order a free copy of the scriptures. Hope this helps.
June 26th, 2010 at 8:34 pm
[..YouTube..] @Irishtupperware I appreciate that because I did not mean to be condescending, so thanks. Someone very close to me is an atheist, so we have these types of conversations, and end up agreeing to disagree since he can’t comprehend anything that cannot be proven, and I can’t comprehend being without God. But that is what makes life interesting, eh? BTW, if you have a Book of Mormon, check out the story of Korihor. You remind me of him.
June 26th, 2010 at 8:58 pm
[..YouTube..] @Irishtupperware I believe that we are all brothers and sisters spiritually.
June 26th, 2010 at 8:59 pm
[..YouTube..] DNA evidence that you won’t find on the anti-Mormon mills.
“Haplogroup X has now been reported in contemporary members of seven specific unrelated language families which are distributed throughout…the geographic regions of the Candadian Subartic / Great Lakes region..”
David Glenn Smith et al, Distribution of mtDNA Haplogroup X among Native North Americans. American Journal of Physical Anthropology 110:271-284 (1999)
June 26th, 2010 at 9:01 pm
[..YouTube..] @DrPorterRockwell
DNA from the Algonquian tribes: “..haplogroup X also have been found in two individuals from…a 700 cemetery in west-central Illinois”
Eshleman JA, Malhi RS, and Smith DG. Mitochondrial DNA studies of Native Americans: Conceptions and misconceptions of the population prehistory of the Americas. Evolutionary Anthropology 12: 7-18. (2003)
June 26th, 2010 at 9:02 pm
[..YouTube..] @DrPorterRockwell
“..we identified a prehistoric radiocarbon individual that is a member of haplogroup X, found near the Columbia River in Vantage, Washington. The presence of haplogroup X in prehistoric North America, confirms the hypothesis that haplogroup X is a founding lineage.”
R.S. Malhi and D.G. Smith. Brief Communication: Haplogroup X Confirmed in Prehistoric North America. American Journal of Physical Anthropology 119: 84-86. (2002)
June 26th, 2010 at 9:05 pm
[..YouTube..] @DrPorterRockwell
Where does Haplogroup X come from?
Haplogroup X is a human mitochondrial DNA (mtDNA) and divided into two sub-groups, X1 and X2. X1 comes from North, East Africa and Near East. X2 comes from Near East, the Caucasus, Mediterranean Europe and Israeli Druze.
Interesting, comes from Israel.
DNA confirmation of the Book of Mormon has only scratched the surface and is still in it’s infancy.
What the Book of Mormon already knows, science is slowly discovering.
June 26th, 2010 at 10:35 pm
[..YouTube..] @DrPorterRockwell
What’s hypocritical about declining to describe myself as an expert? And how am I to judge the truth or falsity of any proposition if not with the aid of eye-witness testimony and relevant documentation? I suppose I should just suspend my logical abilities and depend on an imaginary “Holy Ghost” to answer my questions or look to your pious wisdom for guidance.
I’m not out to deceive, and you have yet to articulate where I have lied or been dishonest or in error. Do tell!
June 26th, 2010 at 10:36 pm
[..YouTube..] Sadly the Mormons are NOT christians. They believe in many gods, and that they can become gods themselves! Bible clearly states that Gos is one!
June 27th, 2010 at 2:02 am
[..YouTube..] @bobisnohere1
Why are you afraid to answer questions about your 3-headed god..tell me..why does one not find the words “essence” or “substance” in the bible when you speak of the GODHEAD being ONE GOD…those words are NOT found in the bible in ANY of the original languages..it is EXTRA-BIBLICAL..that means outside of the bible.
June 27th, 2010 at 2:02 am
[..YouTube..] @bobisnohere1
Why is it that one can sin against the FATHER and the SON but not against the HOLY GHOST as we read in the “bible”..if they are of the same essence or substance or MIND as trinitarians say ..why is it that you are not sinning against the HOLY GHOST when you sin against the Father and Son..if they are the same ESSENCE or SUBSTANCE or MIND?
June 27th, 2010 at 2:03 am
[..YouTube..] @bobisnohere1
How can GOD send himself as “The Only “Begotten”?..did he “beget” himself?..lol..stupid trinitarians.
What about Being the “First born”..was he the first born of himself?..I thought there was no begining for God?
God the Father + God the Son + God (HS)
EQUALS “ONE GOD” according to trinitarianism…so let’s add that up again:
1+1+1 = 1…lol.and they call us stupid..lol
Don’t give me the 1×1x1=1 garbage because there is NO word “essence” to support this “in” the Bible.
June 27th, 2010 at 2:04 am
[..YouTube..] @bobisnohere1
Why is it that false christianity needs analogies like an egg, a triangle, or water in its three phases to EXPLAIN thier 3-headed god?..can you point to just ONE place in the Bible where ANY of the prophets or apostles use these very analogies or ANY analogies for that matter to explain the GODHEAD?..well?
Guess your “god” is not found in the bible huh?
June 27th, 2010 at 2:04 am
[..YouTube..] @imtherealthing Why not? It’s a good quote.
June 27th, 2010 at 2:05 am
[..YouTube..] @bobisnohere1
Tell me,
We learn that ONLY the Father knows of end of the world not the angels or even JESUS knows this according to the bible…so if they share the same MIND – which “is” trinatarian theology..then how can this be?
Ever think that your Hellenized god could be just that..a god made up by wicked men to destroy people’s faith in the TRUE GOD..as we learn..it is LIFE ETERNAL to know who GOD “&” Jesus Christ is..God is not supposed to be a mystery like you trinitarians teach…
June 27th, 2010 at 2:05 am
[..YouTube..] @bobisnohere1
ON ONENESS
John 17: 11, 21-22
And now I am no more in the world, but these are in the world, and I come to thee. Holy Father, keep through thine own name those whom thou hast given me, that THEY may be ONE, AS WE ARE.
That THEY “ALL” may be ONE; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be ONE IN US: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me.
And the glory which thou gavest me I have given them; that THEY MAY BE ONE, even as we are ONE
June 27th, 2010 at 2:06 am
[..YouTube..] @bobisnohere1
Anyone else interested in finding out the TRUTH about “deification”?
Then read the Book called : “The Westminster Dictionary of CHRISTIAN THEOLOGY” read up on “deification” on page 147 of said book. Find out how the early church fathers and Christians believed in and taught we can become gods by grace -> “joint-heirs with Christ”. This doctrine to this day is taught by the Eastern “Orthodox” Christian churches although a watered down version of the Doctrine.
June 27th, 2010 at 2:07 am
[..YouTube..] @bobisnohere1
St. Irenaeus – “If the Word has been made man, it is so that men may be made gods” (Adv. Haer, V. Pref.)
St. Athanasius repeats the EXACT same thing in the 4th century word for word.
In the 5th century St. Cyril of Alexandria:
says we shall become sons by “participation” (methexis).
The DOCTRINE of (Theosis) or Deification was believed by MOST early christians and they point to MANY scriptures to support this belief both in the OTand NT
June 27th, 2010 at 2:08 am
[..YouTube..] @bobisnohere1
So we see that the early saints, the church fathers, and Jesus himself in John 10 says “ye shall be as gods” quoting what he said as Jehovah in the OT (Psalm 82) and where Paul also talks of this in the context of “filial adoption” in Rom 8:9-17, Gal. 4: 5-7) and in the Fourth Gospel (cf. 17:21-23) and also found in 2 Peter where Peter also uses this language too…with all that you still want to argue the Doctrine of Deification?
June 27th, 2010 at 2:08 am
[..YouTube..] @bobisnohere1
LDS THEOLOGY(that has NEVER changed):
The Father = Fully GOD
The Son (Jehovah/Jesus) = Fully GOD
The Holy Spirit = Fully GOD
THREE seperate GODS worthy of worship, yet we pray to the FATHER GOD in the NAME of JESUS CHRIST and receive confirmation by the Holy Ghost.
TITLES like : Eternal Father or LORD can be applied to both the FATHER GOD and JESUS, Elohim also …these are “TITLES” in MOST cases we LDS know that Lord is Jehovah/Jesus as Elohim is the Father
June 27th, 2010 at 2:09 am
[..YouTube..] @bobisnohere1
In LDS theology we say that The Father, Son and Holy Ghost are ONE in PURPOSE not BEING…this GODHEAD is what we LDS say constitutes “ONE GOD” – a unity of GODS who are ALL FULLY GOD working as ONE unit in a GODHEAD.
June 27th, 2010 at 2:10 am
[..YouTube..] @bobisnohere1
Show me where your nicene god is in the bible…show me where the words “essence” or “substance” are in the bible to describe the ONENESS in that context? Where are these words in ANY of the ORIGINAL langauges?..well?
June 27th, 2010 at 2:13 am
[..YouTube..] @bobisnohere1
If God was just Spirit …
And..if you accept the “INCARNATION” then you too accept that Jesus was once a Spirit who then became man..who then became GOD.
Now if you say GOD is “JUST” Spirit. with no body now then you fall under the CONDEMNATION of 1 John 4 :1-4 of being the ANTI-CHRIST..which says Christ came not in a body. Your theology TEACHES GOD IS “JUST” SPIRIT..now my question to you is..did Jesus then give up his physical body at death?..does God have a body?
June 27th, 2010 at 2:45 am
[..YouTube..] @Irishtupperware It is fiction.
June 27th, 2010 at 3:00 am
[..YouTube..] @Irishtupperware “And unto him that smiteth thee on the one cheek offer also the other” is a difficult teaching of Jesus Christ because I think it is weak to be cruel or judgmental, but more strength is required to be merciful and kind.
June 27th, 2010 at 3:16 am
[..YouTube..] @DrPorterRockwell
If it all comes down to faith, i.e., the willingness, as Mark Twain so aptly put it, to, “… [believe] what you know ain’t so”, then why bother with all this totally irrelevant tripe about mitochondrial DNA? Is this an attempt to distract and confuse your audience? By the way, Doc, tell me which of my statements you dispute and I’d be happy to provide you with the source for my information. I’m confident that, whatever the source, it will be at least as good as Joseph Smith.
June 27th, 2010 at 3:54 am
[..YouTube..] @Dustiniusprimus
Wow! You actually attributed your quote. Drastic improvement!
Now if you could go back to your other pathetic comments & actually cite your pathetic lies. Make sense now? Doubt it.
And seriously, this is your weak response? Thats it “irrelevant tripe” with absolutely no reasons why? I don’t blame you in not wanting to refute legitimate studies
Why do you respond? You obviously bring nothing to the table other than swipes at Joseph Smith. At least come up with an original 1
June 27th, 2010 at 2:08 pm
[..YouTube..] @DrPorterRockwell
It’s the first quote I’ve referenced so I don’t know of what “drastic improvement” you speak. I also don’t know to what “pathetic lies” you refer since you have ignored repeated requests for clarification on this point, presumably because you know as well as I that you have no basis to challenge my facts regarding Joseph Smith.
Your mitochondrial diversionary-tactic was irrelevant for precisely the reason you stated: it doesn’t prove the Book of Mormon. …
June 27th, 2010 at 2:20 pm
[..YouTube..] @DrPorterRockwell
… I haven’t disputed the conclusions of your studies, I have only pointed out their irrelevance, which you have effectively conceded.
So what exactly are you bringing to the table? Thus far nothing but swipes at your critics and listless equivocation. You tell us to accept your mythology on faith but demand that we write a bibliography for every statement we make. Double-standard?
June 27th, 2010 at 4:31 pm
[..YouTube..] @Dustiniusprimus
The real question here is:”What’s with your obsession with “The Church of JESUS CHRIST of Latter-day Saints”?..that’s the question really here that needs to be answered…well?
June 27th, 2010 at 4:43 pm
[..YouTube..] @Dustiniusprimus
First referenced and last one I predict.
As I said in my other post: You have only rambled on with “statements”, yet you continue to call them “facts” like you were a believable “expert”. Self delusion continues no matter what is said towards you.
Show us a fact, listing source. Just one. Well?
June 27th, 2010 at 4:43 pm
[..YouTube..] @Dustiniusprimus
Glad you agree, but be careful, agreeing goes directly against your fellow anti-Mormons whose “golden” arrow is that DNA proves the Book of Mormon is false
I’m not telling you to accept anything. You have your own free choice to remain faithless. Go look up a bibliography in what it means. Not the same as citing a source
Now, I have fully realized what I’m dealing with for it is impossible for you to understand.
Let me repeat: Show us a fact, listing source. Just one. Well?
June 27th, 2010 at 4:59 pm
[..YouTube..] @Dustiniusprimus
Tell us what does your “philosophy” about life add to humanity in place of what the LORD does…well?
June 28th, 2010 at 3:15 am
[..YouTube..] @Mahanrimoreankamer
Yet, Bible believing “Christians” demand “proof” from the Book of Mormon.
June 28th, 2010 at 3:19 am
[..YouTube..] @TheLudevoxx1
Wo bud, Joseph Smith never claimed that God directed him in writing the Book of Mormon. Also Latter-Day Saints have never stated DNA as a doctrinal belief. Third you assume that a genetic code could be traced after 2500 years. Critics of the Book of Mormon haven’t carefully read the text. It mentions 7 different peoples. The chances of any one line staying the same is null. Even so, all covenant people were killed in the end so there are no samples to collect.
June 28th, 2010 at 3:22 am
[..YouTube..] @Mahanrimoreankamer
“There is a three headed figure in Super Mario Brothers 2.”
LOL..modeled on the trinity
June 28th, 2010 at 3:00 pm
[..YouTube..] Then were all the golden plates? We will show the ancient copies of the Holy Bible. And a lot of his prophecies did not come true. He was a false prophet
June 28th, 2010 at 4:15 pm
[..YouTube..] @DrPorterRockwell
I’ve agreed only that the ancestors of Native Americans originated in Asia. Incidentally, DNA evidence does disprove the Book of Mormon as, if indigenous Americans were descended from Nephi, as claimed, we would see a much higher incidence of your precious haplogroup x.
It’s not just DNA evidence refuting your holy text. Archaeology has yielded nothing to support the notion that a massive battle took place in New York. …
June 28th, 2010 at 4:39 pm
[..YouTube..] @DrPorterRockwell
Sorry, Doc, but you’re no one to be assigning me homework. You know damn well Joseph Smith was a self-styled treasure hunter. Sources abound in corroboration with this statement – find them yourself.
Will you also persist with the Mormon lie that Joseph Smith wasn’t a polygamist and thus, adulterer. I can cite numerous sources in support of this assertion, including Joseph Smith himself.
Finally, are you unaware that JS commanded a 5,000-strong militia in Nauvoo,…
June 28th, 2010 at 9:07 pm
[..YouTube..] @Dustiniusprimus
… with which he attempted to enforce his own authority over the inhabitants. It was the Nauvoo Legion’s destruction, on the orders of JS, of the Nauvoo Expositor’s printing press that led to Smith’s arrest and subsequent killing in Carthage. What had the newspaper done to provoke Smith’s ire? It had threatened to reveal to the public that JS had had himself declared “King, Priest and Prophet” in a secret ceremony.
June 28th, 2010 at 10:50 pm
[..YouTube..] @bobisnohere1
RE: Isa. 43:10
The Jews were first polytheistic then they shifted to henotheism then later into monotheism in the context of thier Babylonian captivity. In this CONTEXT it was the practice of the time in Babylon to have a community altar to put all the IDOLS which were “FORMED” (of wood/silver/gold) on this altar..Jehovah’s idol also was put on this altar. Jehovah said that this should not be the case to put “BEFORE” HIM these FALSE gods.
That is the context. FALSE gods
June 28th, 2010 at 10:54 pm
[..YouTube..] @benjamin5883
YOUR QUOTE: “Then were [SIC] all the golden plates?”
MY REPLY: Then where are the tablets for the ten commandments?”..yet do you still believe in them?..as a matter of FACT..show me where ANY “ORIGINAL” OT or NT manuscript is..just ONE!!…yet..you still accept the Bible?..I do…as well as the Book of Mormon…all on FAITH like the Lord wants us to..not “evidences”..show me where in the Bible we need “archaeology” as a requirment to be saved – just one verse?
June 28th, 2010 at 10:58 pm
[..YouTube..] @bobisnohere1
John 17:3
“And this is ‘LIFE ETERNAL’, that THEY might KNOW THEE the ONLY TRUE GOD, “and” Jesus Christ, whom THOU HAST SENT.”
Notice the “and”…who sent Jesus?…did Jesus send himself? Silly Trinitarians.
June 28th, 2010 at 11:01 pm
[..YouTube..] @bobisnohere1
Tell me,
We learn that ONLY the Father knows of end of the world not the angels or even JESUS knows this according to the bible…so if they share the same MIND – which “is” trinatarian theology..then how can this be?
June 28th, 2010 at 11:01 pm
[..YouTube..] What?..you want “evidence”..here let me give you a scripture:
Matt. 16: 4
A “WICKED” and “ADULTEROUS” generation “SEEKETH AFTER A SIGN”; and there shall no sign be given unto it, …”.
June 28th, 2010 at 11:02 pm
[..YouTube..] @imtherealthing
All gods/goddesses are false as far as I can discern. In all my years, no one has offered any compelling argument in support of theism. Their final answer is always that they, “just believe” or that they know from, “personal experience” that “God” is real. Wouldn’t it be frightening if the court system operated under such faulty premises? Why if not suitable for our judicial proceedings, is this twisted wish-thinking good enough for our “eternal” souls?
June 28th, 2010 at 11:03 pm
[..YouTube..] @bobisnohere1
LDS THEOLOGY(that has NEVER changed):
The Father = Fully GOD
The Son (Jehovah/Jesus) = Fully GOD
The Holy Spirit = Fully GOD
THREE seperate GODS worthy of worship, yet we pray to the FATHER GOD in the NAME of JESUS CHRIST and receive confirmation by the Holy Ghost.
TITLES like : Eternal Father or LORD can be applied to both the FATHER GOD and JESUS, Elohim also …these are “TITLES” in MOST cases we LDS know that Lord is Jehovah/Jesus as Elohim is the Father
June 28th, 2010 at 11:07 pm
[..YouTube..] @Dustiniusprimus
YOUR QUOTE: “that they know from, “personal experience” that “God” is real.”
MY REPLY: No one can convince you via logic that God is real..this is something you will need to find out on your own …but I can tell you how ..REPENT, PRAY, and be as a child – humble and submissive…that is how JEsus taught us to be…and HE promises by the Holy Spirit…you will know the TRUTH…stop being arrogant and rebellious….if you don’t care..then go on your way..
June 28th, 2010 at 11:20 pm
[..YouTube..] @benjamin5883
Yes, please do show those “ancient copies” of the Holy bible.
June 28th, 2010 at 11:24 pm
[..YouTube..] @Dustiniusprimus
Yes, if the “expert” cannot “discern” in all his years, then who could?
Yet, this “expert” is incapable of providing proof and evidence that atheism is accurate and true in the court system.
Wouldn’t expect any less, as a typical hypocrite that you are, you have a pathetic double standard.
June 28th, 2010 at 11:27 pm
[..YouTube..] @Dustiniusprimus
Here come the vulgarities. Asking for one single source struck a nerve.
Expected, when you have nothing as a bag of bricks.
June 28th, 2010 at 11:28 pm
[..YouTube..] @Dustiniusprimus
Yes “expert” continue to ramble on with lies, with no sources. You almost fooled us there.
June 29th, 2010 at 2:07 am
[..YouTube..] @imtherealthing
You accuse others of arrogance while simultaneously claiming to be in company with an all-powerful deity who has revealed to you the meaning of life.Hypocrite!
As for prayer and repentance, I tried those AS a child, without results. No heavenly voice, no glowing apparition or spiritual epiphany. My frequent entreaties to God that he reveal himself in some sort of a sign, that I may have a basis for belief were met with utter silence.
I’m certainly not convinced by the Bible.
June 29th, 2010 at 2:11 am
[..YouTube..] @Dustiniusprimus
YET…you just can’t seem to pull yourself away from God..you keep coming back here and other videos about God…funny thing huh?What’s your fascination with the LDS church?…I know..you want God to prove himself to you…sorry not going to work that way…your arrogance will not bring you to a realization of God..you can keep trying..and will always fail. Have a nice miserable life here and in the here-after…only you can change the outcome..through repentance and faith.
June 29th, 2010 at 2:24 am
[..YouTube..] @DrPorterRockwell
Why do you keep calling me an expert?
And what double-standard? In a sense, atheism did win in a court of law, in the Dover, Pennsylvania case repudiating intelligent-design in science curricula. Just for kicks, I’ll cite the 700 Club for that one.
For the record, in a recent post, I did cite a source – Joseph Smith. Not a credible source, I know, but the highest authority in your credulous estimation. Figured that’d be good enough for you. As ever, you are evasive.
June 29th, 2010 at 1:30 pm
[..YouTube..] Joseph Smith was a Freemason and Freemasons are possessed by Satan and all Big Christian leaders are satanic freemasons who are knowingly casting an evil spell on people, because it profits them personally.
June 29th, 2010 at 1:32 pm
[..YouTube..] @imtherealthing
My commentary on videos promoting piety has nothing to do with some unfulfilled desire to ascertain the existence of “God”. I criticize because of my strongly-held belief that faith is fascism. It was through faith in and obedience to their Fuehrer that the German people failed to prevent the largest mass-murder known to history. Faith led to the deaths of hundreds at Jonestown and thousands on 9/11.
June 29th, 2010 at 1:45 pm
[..YouTube..] @imtherealthing
Furthermore, Christianity teaches that we are not accountable for our sins as long as we accept that Jesus has already paid their penalty. And yet the Bible is thought to promote moral accountability? That’s preposterous.
When anyone, religious or otherwise, asks me or anyone else to suspend our powers of reason and accept a proposition on anything other than its merits, I know something is wrong. On anything other than religion, I expect you would agree. Why the incongruity?
June 29th, 2010 at 1:50 pm
[..YouTube..] @DrPorterRockwell
What “lies” are those?
June 29th, 2010 at 1:51 pm
[..YouTube..] @DrPorterRockwell
Well said! Brilliant retort!
June 29th, 2010 at 2:04 pm
[..YouTube..] @SimonCowellAI
YOU ARE ONE REALLY MENTALLY DISTURBED PERSON
June 29th, 2010 at 2:06 pm
[..YouTube..] @Dustiniusprimus
You are nothing more than a very bitter and angry person..have you nothing better to do with your life?…I feel sorry for you..you seem proverbial stuck in this belief that it is your mission in life to prove to yourself that there is no God..my question is why do you try so hard?
June 29th, 2010 at 2:14 pm
[..YouTube..] @Dustiniusprimus
YOUR QUOTE: ” I criticize because of my strongly-held belief that faith is fascism”
MY REPLY: Now that is funny..let’s take a loof at the history of “Fascism”
Stalin – athiest
Hitler – athiest/occultist
Mussolini
Mao
etc…etc…
say again?..silly boy
June 29th, 2010 at 2:25 pm
[..YouTube..] @Dustiniusprimus
If you think that by being mad at God and religion (it seems particularily “The Church of JESUS CHRIST of Latter-day Saints” in most cases) and that somehow this will endear you to HIM – you are wrong..if you think by challenging God that somehow you will get HIS attention in some sort of sick twisted way…think again. God could care less for your childish antics (tantrums) as we members of his church feel the same way about you and your kind. We are happy..you are not.
June 29th, 2010 at 6:32 pm
[..YouTube..] @imtherealthing
I certainly don’t need to prove to myself the non-existence of God – the proof is in the pudding. And, yes, I do think dispelling religious myths that foment so much hatred and misunderstanding and sow such irreconcilable division among human beings to be a worthy cause and it does anger me to consider that children are indoctrinated with silly superstitions. I think my frustration is justified for all of the above-stated reasons.
June 29th, 2010 at 6:44 pm
[..YouTube..] @imtherealthing
A very predictable reply, if misleading.
First of all, fascism didn’t originate with Hitler and Mussolini. The ideology underlying fascism is one that emphasizes group-think and obedience to an infallible dictator. This tendency has precedent in the long-unchallenged authority of the Popes, who presided over a 1,000 year reign of terror in the West that claimed an indeterminable multitude of “heretical” victims.
June 29th, 2010 at 6:55 pm
[..YouTube..] @imtherealthing
The Protestant Reformation begun by Martin Luther in 1514 sought to decentralize priestly authority and was largely successful in much of northern Europe and was followed in its turn by the secular Enlightenment, which, with its emphasis on reason and observable reality, created a further diffusion of intellectual and philosophical self-determination,to the great advantage of human liberty.
It is thus,my contention that the fascist urge is checked by skepticism, not aided by it.
June 29th, 2010 at 7:09 pm
[..YouTube..] @imtherealthing
Moreover, it’s true that Hitler was an occultist, if avowed Roman Catholic, who hired an astrologer and stated “Divine Providence” had destined him for power. How does it follow that he could possibly have been an atheist?
Okay, let’s pretend he was. He was also a vegetarian and failed artist – should we be keeping an eye on these types? Or what about his Germanic(and probably Jewish) descent? Are people of Austrian ancestry automatically suspect?
June 29th, 2010 at 8:51 pm
[..YouTube..] @Irishtupperware I love paradoxical wit and wisdom! Your remark that the Satanist quote is a “good” one is an oxymoron. Here’s another one “We learn from history that we do not learn from history. Russell M. Nelson said, “Opposing forces are competing for our allegiance: right versus wrong, good versus evil. They are not always easily discerned…These forces are, in fact, conflicting religious systems of belief. They are theistic (godly) forces and atheistic (ungodly or satanic) forces.”
June 29th, 2010 at 10:33 pm
[..YouTube..] @MsEndure2end Thanks, I try!
I don’t think you answered my one question on Mary’s conception. Mainstream Christians believe Mary was visited by the angel Gabriel and told she was now “immaculately” pregnant with Jesus. Does LDS doctrine teach that she was visited by God himself (as Elohim I think?) and impregnated by shall we just say in-immaculate means? Oh, and remember one of the first questions I asked you about the floating city? The name of it was Enoch(sp?).
June 29th, 2010 at 10:46 pm
[..YouTube..] @imtherealthing Why do you guys always assume that people who are not religious are miserable people? Or are you so indoctrinated into the belief that the only way to be happy is “through” Jesus? Is every single last one of you Mormons happy just because your Mormon? Are YOU really that happy with your life? All those women and girls on the Warren Jeffs compound looked real happy to me! I wonder what religion they were? Hmm…
June 30th, 2010 at 5:54 pm
[..YouTube..] @LDS4Life71 Show me the links, because, honestly, I think you’re full of shit.
June 30th, 2010 at 6:01 pm
[..YouTube..] @imtherealthing Fine. Don’t believe me and attack my credibility, it doesn’t change the argument. But if the Book of Mormon was true, it HAS to correlate with reality. If it says something like steel and horses were there, and we can tell that they weren’t, then the BoM is FALSE.
June 30th, 2010 at 6:07 pm
[..YouTube..] @dr0dread
Just because one does not find those items NOW does not mean they won’t be found later in some dig..and personally..I could care less..my faith in God does not need Archaeology. If you need proof for God..it won’t come to you..but when you finally surrender your finite mind to God..you will then find the proofs you once sought start to vindicate your belief… there is a saying..we “do not cast our pearls before swine”…for the swine will trample all over the pearls.
June 30th, 2010 at 6:07 pm
[..YouTube..] @Dustiniusprimus I object to the statement “Joseph Smith’s chauvinistic polygamy.” A few verses ahead of the one you quoted: D&C 132:59 “If a man be called of my Father, …and I have endowed him with the keys of the priesthood, if he do anything in my name, and according to my law, …he will not commit sin, and I will justify him.” I believe that, although polygamy is not now practiced, it was a calling from God, and is according to God’s law, not man’s.
June 30th, 2010 at 6:14 pm
[..YouTube..] @imtherealthing Trust me when I tell you, you don’t wanna know what a circle-jerk is!
June 30th, 2010 at 6:22 pm
[..YouTube..] @imtherealthing Cut the insults man. You’ll never convert anyone if you’re calling them names, so far you’ve called me a liar, swine, and someone who knows “nothing”. All I’ve said is that evidence points to the BOM being false and that prayer proves nothing. Your response was that God gives us knowledge. As Nietzsche once said “A simple walk through a lunatics asylum shows that faith proves nothing.”
June 30th, 2010 at 6:26 pm
[..YouTube..] @mirekk1977
Did you get the smoke signal from your fellow buddies? They are need of some desperate help!
Glad you could make it, just like them you will obsessively comment on the video.
When you get to that point, there is no turning back. As you can see these anti-Mormons cannot stop for they are totally obsessed about the truth for it constantly eats inside of them.
I would turn back while you still can.
June 30th, 2010 at 6:29 pm
[..YouTube..] @dr0dread
Awww the poor atheist really thinks anyone will care about his whining. Poor little guy!
June 30th, 2010 at 6:30 pm
[..YouTube..] @dr0dread
I am NOT here to “PROVE” anything to you or any other person…God is the one that converts..as for the swine remark..just quoted scripture Jesus used to show that people of the WORLD..will NEVER understand his message..it is akin to throwing something valuable to pigs (the world)..we are not to do that…although swine are the most intelligent beasts in the animal kingdom..they do NOT value and recognize value in something like a pearl.
June 30th, 2010 at 6:32 pm
[..YouTube..] @dr0dread
Poor atheist has to be directed towards honest and legitimate research for he doesn’t know how to find it or properly go about it.
Yet google, wikipedia and multiple anti-Mormon mills are the doctrine of truth to anti-Mormons and the likes. Pathetic!
June 30th, 2010 at 6:35 pm
[..YouTube..] @Dustiniusprimus
RE: plural marriage (polygamy)
It was practiced by Abraham, Issac and Jacob AND OTHER PROPHETS for example..and we see that they are in Heaven with God:
Luke 13: 28
There shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth, when ye shall see ABRAHAM, AND ISAAC, AND JACOB, and “ALL the PROPHETS”, IN THE KINGDOM OF GOD, and you yourselves thrust out.
June 30th, 2010 at 6:37 pm
[..YouTube..] RE: polygamy not commanded
WRONG..read Exodus 21:10 and Deut 21: 15-17 where the LORD “commands” his prophet Moses to make a law for men who take on extra wives…you know NOT your Bible.
We also see David did not sin until “AFTER” devising a way to take Uriah’s wife – Bathsheba 2 Sam 12:7-13 – so David’s multiple wives were fine by the Lord till he sinned this great sin. Verse 8 says that the Lord “GAVE” David his “WIVES” PLURAL – READ IT!
June 30th, 2010 at 6:38 pm
[..YouTube..] RE: more on polygamy
2 Chron. 13:21 Abijah practiced it
2 Chron. 24:3 Jehoiada practiced it
All were RIGHTEOUS men – so your “theory” and AGAIN – PRIVATE interpretations FAIL..and we LDS know that GOD commanded it to be practiced in our day via his servant the Prophet.
Isaiah prophesied of that day where we would pracitce it in Isaiah 4:1..
June 30th, 2010 at 6:44 pm
[..YouTube..] @imtherealthing Whatever man. Good luck to whatever you do.
June 30th, 2010 at 6:52 pm
[..YouTube..] @dr0dread
I sent you a video..now don’t get all upset…just remember…you are going about it all wrong..mocking and attacking someones faith is going to not go over well…but if you try asking nicely and you sincerely want the answers to your questions – you need to phrase it in a way that is non-offending. I also believe trying to find proof for God when science is made up of MANY “theories” like the Big Bang, Evolution, etc….is silly
June 30th, 2010 at 7:03 pm
[..YouTube..] @imtherealthing the guy in the video doesn’t show you where he’s getting his stuff. I’ve read the FAIR report and it doesn’t even address the issue of the impossible animals.
June 30th, 2010 at 7:06 pm
[..YouTube..] @Irishtupperware circle-jerk: a pompous, self-congratulatory discussion where little to no progress is made. You’re right. I wish I hadn’t looked it up. Doesn’t sound like an atmosphere where the Holy Spirit can dwell.
June 30th, 2010 at 7:11 pm
[..YouTube..] @MsEndure2end
I knew what it meant..I was being factitious..the point was..the person I had leveled this at when he used it..needs to know..he was just spouting off “opinion” and not a logical argument.
June 30th, 2010 at 7:14 pm
[..YouTube..] @dr0dread
The information is all over the place..I know I have found many ..many things to substantiate and verify the Book of Mormon..but like I said..we do not need these “proofs”..I don’t need them..I know by the POWER of the Holy Ghost – a member of the Godhead..that what I have read in the Book of Mormon is of God and it helps me in my life and gives me peace..no amount of “proofs” can give a person that..understand?
June 30th, 2010 at 7:27 pm
[..YouTube..] @imtherealthing I disagree, and I understand why you think that, and we can end it there.
June 30th, 2010 at 8:28 pm
[..YouTube..] @dr0dread
Insults are their only recourse in the absence of any compelling arguments, so I wouldn’t hold my breath for them to cease and desist. The only authority they have on which to fall back is that of Church officials, with whom they are loathe to disagree even when intellectual honesty requires it.
Though I fully concur with Nietzsche’s quote, I don’t expect these belligerent blowhards to give it any consideration – they’re adept at shutting out the protests of their own consciences.
June 30th, 2010 at 8:50 pm
[..YouTube..] @imtherealthing
In what field did you earn your 3 degrees, you pompous, quasi-intellectual snob? At any rate, your pride is highly impious.
“… the Book of Mormon can diesprove[sic][,] you know nothing of what you speak of[sic].”
If this is true, then I suppose it is due to global conspiracy and anti-Mormon sentiment that the overwhelming majority of archaeologists and scientists refuse to accept the BoM as a factual document? FYI, these are university-trained professionals of which I speak.
June 30th, 2010 at 9:03 pm
[..YouTube..] @DrPorterRockwell
You’re a laughing-stock. Why won’t you address the issues and stop obfuscating? If your conviction is so strong that Mormonism is genuine, why won’t you come to its defense with real arguments?
June 30th, 2010 at 9:14 pm
[..YouTube..] @imtherealthing
Clearly, as a subscriber to obvious nonsense, you are not well-versed in logic. Should we expect you to be familiar with common vernacular? Probably not, as you are insulated in your LDS fantasy-world.
June 30th, 2010 at 10:30 pm
[..YouTube..] @Dustiniusprimus
Theology degree
BA in REligious Studies
B.com (Accounting)
Working on a MA in Early Christian History
and you?..oh right..NOTHING..quite obvious
July 1st, 2010 at 4:23 pm
[..YouTube..] @imtherealthing I believe that some of these people are really searching for something good that they don’t have in their lives, which would explain why they clicked on this video about the Church in the first place. My reason for replying is to offer information that might encourage them. I love a good discussion about faith and respect contrary opinions while keeping my sense of humor, but there’s no point in descending into arguments or profanity.
July 1st, 2010 at 4:45 pm
[..YouTube..] @Irishtupperware In this video about How Joseph Smith could not have written the Book of Mormon without divine, the scenes that impressed me were 1:55 and 3:43. I believe that he would not have gone through all of that for any other reason than that he was called of God.
July 1st, 2010 at 4:46 pm
[..YouTube..] @MsEndure2end divine help
July 1st, 2010 at 5:30 pm
[..YouTube..] @MsEndure2end
Can you show me just one example where I used profanity..just one?
Let me give you some advice sister..having once been an anti-mormon myself..I know these types intimately…you are wasting your time..they do not seek truth, but love darkness more than light…until they repent there is nothing you can say that will lead them to do this…they will lie and decieve you..they pretendf to be offended by another member of the church only in the hope to turn us against each other
July 1st, 2010 at 5:35 pm
[..YouTube..] @Dustiniusprimus
Yes there is absolutes…you are an absolute idiot…
Again…you are lost and miserable like unto satan..that is the condition you are in..you cannot comprehend anything of God in your condition..it will be a “stumbling block to you”..that is what we are taught in the scriptures…you do not seek good, but evil..therefore you will reap evil.
Do not pretend to know the mind of the Lord and his workings..you can barely understand english and most logic used against you.
July 1st, 2010 at 5:36 pm
[..YouTube..] @DrPorterRockwell
dr0dread is softening his heart..he used to be a member… had a good talk with him in PM..cut him some slack..his eyes are begining to open to his folly and foolishness..he knows the truth and he knows what he needs to do…let’s help him get there.
July 1st, 2010 at 5:38 pm
[..YouTube..] @imtherealthing YOUR REPLY: …you are the “serpents” Jesus speaks of…who were always trying to trap HIM with thier questions.
So Jesus couldn’t intelligently debate an athiest either, hmm? Wow, now that’s telling!
July 1st, 2010 at 5:41 pm
[..YouTube..] @Irishtupperware
Jesus is NOT interested in debate..he is secure in himself and what the TRUTH is..you are just a fool like the other fools of this world who think they know more than God…it would be like a human trying to argue with a gnat…like that gnat…arguing with you would be a waste of time and useless
July 1st, 2010 at 5:41 pm
[..YouTube..] @DrPorterRockwell YOUR REPLY: Pre-Columbian iron-steel, elephants, copper, gold, wheels, bearded figures, highways and horses have been found
Where oh where have elephant remains been found on either American continent? Are they in the same secret place as the golden plates? Betcha he doesn’t answer because he can’t. Now if you’ll excuse me, I must return to my vomit.
July 1st, 2010 at 5:45 pm
[..YouTube..] @imtherealthing Well, you’ve “wasted” plenty of your time arguing with me. No one’s keeping you here.
July 1st, 2010 at 5:45 pm
[..YouTube..] @MsEndure2end
Irishtupperware’ QUOTE: “So Jesus couldn’t intelligently debate an athiest either, hmm? Wow, now that’s telling!”
MY REPLY TO YOU: Does this sound like someone interested in knowing the TRUTH?..no offense sister, but like most women..you are too soft in dealing with serpents..leave the fight to the men..I’m sure Captain Moroni didn’t stop every time he thrust his sword into a wicked Lamanite..for had he done so..he would have surely perished in doing such a foolish thing
July 1st, 2010 at 5:47 pm
[..YouTube..] @Irishtupperware
NO..I am here because this is a video by my faith you are trespassing on..why are “you” here?…to stink it up with your vileness?..what…nothing better to do?..your fellow athiests not keeping you happy?
July 1st, 2010 at 5:57 pm
[..YouTube..] @MsEndure2end
I meant : “…stop and apologize for every sword thrust he put ito his enemies”..if Capt. Moroni did that..he would have surely died…the war against light is becoming more and more real..this is not a time for niceness but to push back the tide of evil…there was a “war” in heaven..war and casualties are going to be real…things are getting worse by the day in this world..you can’t be fooled by these serpents..they have nothing but malice for light and truth.
July 1st, 2010 at 5:59 pm
[..YouTube..] @imtherealthing I am sorry if I suggested that you used profanity. I brought that up because irish was polite every time I commented to him. When you say that I am wasting my time, though, I disagree. Our comments on this website could be a catalyst for change. I think some of their comments are funny, like when irish said, “Excuse me I must return to my vomit.” I laughed out loud at that. I think he is asking some interesting questions and the Relief Society teacher in me responds.
July 1st, 2010 at 6:14 pm
[..YouTube..] @imtherealthing I believe Jesus would love the atheist, but he might not enter into a debate unless the Spirit prompted him to do so. We can be wise as serpents but harmless as doves. I am also a former anti-Mormon and the only person in my family to keep the faith. Captain Moroni is one of my heroes because he did not enjoy war, but was a great warrior because he was acting under the direction of Heavenly Father.
July 1st, 2010 at 6:14 pm
[..YouTube..] @Irishtupperware LOL
July 1st, 2010 at 6:19 pm
[..YouTube..] @Irishtupperware
Using the same logic you use against the Book of Mormon about “proofs” needed to vindicate the Book of Mormon..can you also suppy us with the same “proofs” that the BIG BANG “theory” really did happen? – do you actually know of any scientist who can substatiate and validate that this event truly did take place?..where is the evidence?..where?..with the missing links to the evolution “theory”?..perhaps it is sitting beside one of the missing links on a shelf somewhere?
July 1st, 2010 at 6:21 pm
[..YouTube..] @MsEndure2end
Glenn Beck said it best – it’s pointless to argue with idiots
July 1st, 2010 at 6:23 pm
[..YouTube..] @MsEndure2end
Jesus loves everyone…but he also chased people out of the temple with a whip.
July 1st, 2010 at 6:27 pm
[..YouTube..] @MsEndure2end
You have a good heart.
The Lord would never debate, the Gospel of Jesus Christ needs no defense.
We are here to expose these wolves from deceiving the honest truth seekers and to expose their lies. You will not find honest truth seekers obsessively asking the same questions on several LDS videos like these wolves, those genuine conversations are done through email or out in the real world.
These are not genuine questions that you are trying to answer. You will learn.
July 1st, 2010 at 9:31 pm
[..YouTube..] @Irishtupperware
Here, I expect, the Mormon apologist will question scientific dating-methods on spurious grounds and insist that the skeleton of a prehistoric woolly mammoth is actually one of the elephants mentioned in the BoM. In fact, we do possess pre-Columbian gold artifacts of native origin – the hapless Incas paid a generous ransom in gold for the release of their captured king, Atahualpa, before the unscrupulous Spanish conquistadors, accepting the ransom, executed him….
July 1st, 2010 at 9:41 pm
[..YouTube..] @Irishtupperware
American mastodon was believed to be extinct 10,000 years ago, but carbon-dating of remains of an American mastodon on site Herrell Village in MO dates 450-4,500 years ago which fits perfectly with the Jaredties.
American mastodon (Mammut americanum) Late Holocene (450-4,500 years ago) h t t p://mapserver.museum.state.il.us/faunmapweb/faunmap.phtml?Taxon=MNam&Age=lhol
July 1st, 2010 at 9:44 pm
[..YouTube..] @DrPorterRockwell
In Florida, a cache of extinct animals including elephants was carbon-dated @ 2000 BP. Carter, George F. “A Note on the Elephant in America,” & “The Mammoth in American Epigraphy,” Epigraphic Society, Occasional Publications18:90 and 18:213, 1989
These remains would explain elephants in the Mayan vases & art paintings, the petroglyph in Colorado, the Crespi ancient gold artifact in Ecuador, the Crespi stone in Ecuador, carvings in Petan Mexico, Olmec toy & Hondurus headdress
July 1st, 2010 at 9:52 pm
[..YouTube..] @Dustiniusprimus
You even fail at predictions.
I will predict you will discount any evidence presented to you and that you will continue with your anti-Mormon Derangement Syndrome.
You will have no excuses for rejecting the Book of Mormon for what the Book of Mormon already knows, science is slowly discovering.
The Book of Mormon remains true not based on worldly “proof”, but from the undeniable witness from God. There is nothing that feels more pure.
July 1st, 2010 at 10:09 pm
[..YouTube..] @Irishtupperware
… As for the secret location either of the golden plates or a single piece of evidence to corroborate them, well… I don’t expect these problems to be addressed by LDS loyalists or sympathizers other than with opaque deference to the current “Prophet[Fuehrer]” of the Church. Even the preferred archaeological reconciliation of many faithful Mormons of their “holy” text with reality, the “limited geography [']theory[']“, is in direct contradiction with Smith’s own testimony.
July 2nd, 2010 at 8:29 pm
[..YouTube..] @DrPorterRockwell Again, I suggest to honest truth seekers to seek out the missionaries who will answer their questions with kindness and in a Christ-like manner.
July 2nd, 2010 at 8:30 pm
[..YouTube..] @DrPorterRockwell Again, I suggest to honest truth seekers to seek out the missionaries who will answer their questions with kindness and in a Christ-like manner.
July 2nd, 2010 at 8:34 pm
[..YouTube..] @MsEndure2end
YOUR QUOTE: ” I do not see a fine example of a man who is sincerely trying to bring someone to the gospel.”
MY ANSWER: First..you are not my judge. Second, you do not know me and what good I have done. Third, do you really believe that these indivduals are sincere truth seekers to “bring..[into] the gospel” ? YOU say you read “my” comments – have you truly read thiers? Have you ever served a mission? I did. I know the differance between a liar and a truth seeker.
July 2nd, 2010 at 8:34 pm
[..YouTube..] @imtherealthing
What “missing links” are those?
July 2nd, 2010 at 8:39 pm
[..YouTube..] Thank you for this video which is a beautiful testimony that Jesus Christ is the our Savior, and Joseph Smith is His faithful, honest servant. I hope it will be received with the same Spirit with which it was given. I hope it will be a missionary tool to help others come to a knowledge of the true church and a saving faith in Jesus Christ.
July 2nd, 2010 at 8:40 pm
[..YouTube..] @MsEndure2end
Porter can tell you of the people I have helped with anti-mormons who were trying to destroy faith in weak members or recently of the one non-member I have got to listen to the Gospel…but then again..you probaly will still want to sympathize with the anti-mormons. Ever watch that FHE video on the Indian Boy and the serpent – the talk by Pres. Hinckley?..the snake still bit the boy after promising not to…then the snake hissed..”but you knew what I was when you picked me up”
July 2nd, 2010 at 8:41 pm
[..YouTube..] @Dustiniusprimus
YOUR QUOTE: “What “missing links” are those? ”
MY REPLY: exactly..what missing links?
July 2nd, 2010 at 8:42 pm
[..YouTube..] @imtherealthing
No loyalty, good Brother!
For even though a different medium we are interacting in, the war rages. Satan and his followers will not have their glory.
Let our sister who we would defend in every way shape and form learn the hard way with these wolves and let God be our only judge.
The root beer is getting warm!
July 2nd, 2010 at 8:44 pm
[..YouTube..] @Dustiniusprimus
YOUR QUOTE: “what ‘missing links’ are those?”
MY ANSWER: exactly..what missing links?
July 2nd, 2010 at 8:48 pm
[..YouTube..] @DrPorterRockwell
Ah..she will learn..she is just a novice at this obviously..she isn’t battle hardened..we would defend this sister but I doubt our enemies would treat her in kind. Like I said..women are not made for the battlefield..having been a soldier myself..they are more a liability than an asset in war…for we men put our lives on the line to protect them..our thoughts can’t be on the battle when we are worried about them getting shot..thus women should never been allowed to sign up
July 2nd, 2010 at 8:52 pm
[..YouTube..] @DrPorterRockwell
PART ONE
This reminds me of the time my wife had invited in two strange men into our home to allow them to use the phone. I was downstairs working when I heard the doorbell. I wondered who would be ringing our doorbell at just before midnight. Well upon coming up the stairs I saw these two ruffians…my simple sweet wife was trying to be “nice” – I kicked into my “what do you two want”? stern voice. [wife explains they needed to call someone because thier car broke down].
July 2nd, 2010 at 8:56 pm
[..YouTube..] @DrPorterRockwell
PART TWO
So I said to the two men..don’t you tow have a cell phone? What about the garage just down the block? My wife looked appalled in the manner I treated them…but they left..I followed them out ot their car one minute later..because I was suspicious..and there they were..in thier perfectly running car..using thier perfectly good cell phone..I pretended to take thier license plate number down..and ZOOM..
July 2nd, 2010 at 9:00 pm
[..YouTube..] @DrPorterRockwell
PART 3
ZOOM they took off. I came in and told my wife..she broke down crying..I told her..not to be so trusting..what would have happened if she and the kids had been alone? I thank Hevenly Father for my wife being kind but also for making men the way he has. I had told my wife time and time again before this..not to leave the blinds or curtains open late at night..she always “pish poshed” me..told her that is a good way for people to see in at night to scope out a house
July 2nd, 2010 at 9:01 pm
[..YouTube..] @DrPorterRockwell
PART FOUR
Needless to say..she now leaves the matters of the protection of the house to me..and we close our blinds and curtains at night..no more late night door openings either.
July 2nd, 2010 at 9:44 pm
[..YouTube..] @DrPorterRockwell I don’t mind answering that, but before I do; lemme ask you this: What does my education/background matter to you? If I’m a CEO of a fortune 500 company does that make my opinions any less valid than if I drive a forklift? Does giving my background just give you more “bullets in the chamber” to use against me? Like “eh, what do you know, you’re just a lousy firefighter/secretary/factory worker etc.”
Answer me and I’ll gladly answer you. Also, see if you can guess what I do.
July 2nd, 2010 at 9:49 pm
[..YouTube..] @Irishtupperware
The point is…the discipline of education allows you to not only know what you are talking about, but also how to go about finding answers. One shold go to primary sources for ones information..not secondary sources like anti-mormon sites.
Having my degrees in this field (religion) allows me to know the answers to what early christians really taught and believed – not what you or others profess they taught and believed.
July 2nd, 2010 at 9:49 pm
[..YouTube..] @imtherealthing Hey, lay off her!!! Just because she shows class and acts like someone from your faith is supposed to act you wanna start in on her to now? You’re something else, buddy!!!
July 2nd, 2010 at 9:51 pm
[..YouTube..] @MsEndure2end I hope most of your male brethren have more class than this chump!
July 2nd, 2010 at 10:04 pm
[..YouTube..] @Irishtupperware
Oh..I don’t have any disputes with a trusting sister of my faith..what I do have a dispute with.. is your kind..who come here to this LDs video to spew your filth and garbage
July 2nd, 2010 at 10:28 pm
[..YouTube..] @imtherealthing YOU SAID: One shold go to primary sources for ones information..not secondary sources like anti-mormon sites.
Wrong, one should investigate ALL sources and then make an independant judgement based on facts.
July 2nd, 2010 at 10:30 pm
[..YouTube..] @imtherealthing As you’ll no doubt recall, I came here in the first place seeking information; not to argue or belittle you. YOU and your friend have degenerated this into mud-slinging match.
July 2nd, 2010 at 10:37 pm
[..YouTube..] @Irishtupperware
SO..are you telling me then that if I want to learn about Football..I need to go study baseball, tennis, ..perhaps ask someone who flunked out of football to teach me about football?..is that what you really think is the smart way to go about studying football?
July 2nd, 2010 at 10:40 pm
[..YouTube..] @Irishtupperware
Perhaps..I don’t need to look at the rules of football (primary sources) because I will believe everything one tells me about football even though they are completely wrong..having studied football I would know when someone does not know about football.
July 2nd, 2010 at 10:43 pm
[..YouTube..] @Irishtupperware
So a tennis player (evangelical) tells me the rules about football (LDS church)..I am then to take that information and believe it because he knows all about football being a tennis player? I mean after all..they are both sports (christians)..right?
July 2nd, 2010 at 10:47 pm
[..YouTube..] @Irishtupperware
Better yet….So now a “non-athlete” comes along..claims to know all about tennis and football because he has read up on it, but never played either..nor tried to learn..but we are to take everything he has learned about both sports..even though it is not an interest of his..but he just wants to flout his supposed knowledge of something he really knows little about – and take it at face value?
July 2nd, 2010 at 11:44 pm
[..YouTube..] @Dustiniusprimus
When you say “facts” are you still rambling on again about those “theories” you say that have moved from “theory” to empirical truths?..can you show me where those “missing links” are..a lot of athiests have been waiting for these..me too..as well as the proofs for disproving the existence of God..well..where are they?..tell me again what level of education you have?
July 2nd, 2010 at 11:46 pm
[..YouTube..] @DrPorterRockwell
“Let us “discuss” the “theory of gravity”. Shall we?”
LOL..I wonder why he runs away from answering this all the time?…lol
July 2nd, 2010 at 11:51 pm
[..YouTube..] @Dustiniusprimus
Dustiniusprimus where are those missing links?
Dustiniusprimus where are those missing links?
Dustiniusprimus where are those missing links?
Dustiniusprimus where are those missing links?
Dustiniusprimus where are those missing links?
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Now it’s your turn..go ahead and ask us again the same thing over and over…tag..you’re it!!
Hey..perhaps you can lend your friend the crayons this time..so he can write down the questions.
July 3rd, 2010 at 1:06 am
[..YouTube..] @MsEndure2end also notice that in another verse in that that section that it says that if a man desires to espouse another wife. He must get the FIRST’S CONSENT. So much for chauvinish eh?
July 3rd, 2010 at 6:57 am
[..YouTube..] @Irishtupperware They are angry and defensive. But hey I’d say I would be too If I believed the Joseph Smith story and had to make it look believable to any and all thinking people. I think mormonism is evolving tho’ The emphasis on doctrine is waining. In it’s place “a wholesome family life style” that is more easily argued.
I don’t believe that the majority of Mormons really care that they are void and bankrupt of evidence on The book of mormon.
July 3rd, 2010 at 12:17 pm
[..YouTube..] @kramd1
How pathetic..the cowards created a fake account just to post this…kramd1 is no longer a working account..so they create this just to post it..good job …fake..just like you…lol
July 3rd, 2010 at 4:20 pm
[..YouTube..] @HonkifULuvBrownies
What puzzles me is why men are permitted privileges denied to women like priesthood and multiple spouses. It’s just like with Catholicism – why are women not allowed in the clergy?
July 3rd, 2010 at 4:35 pm
[..YouTube..] @oSWORDofTRUTHo
None of you gullible, superstitious Mormon nincompoops have yet indicated where precisely I have lied, though of course you flippantly hurl the accusation at anyone whose assessment of your stupid religion is anything less than flattering.
July 3rd, 2010 at 4:59 pm
[..YouTube..] @imtherealthing
Science doesn’t claim absolute certainty on any theory, no matter how well-established, because there is always the narrow but real possibility that new evidence may arise. As yet, however, “missing link”, straw-man arguments aside, all available evidence points to evolution. In our museums are contained thousands of fossils clearly elucidating the path of human development.
July 3rd, 2010 at 5:15 pm
[..YouTube..] @Dustiniusprimus
YOUR QUOTE: “yet, however, “missing link”, straw-man arguments aside, all available evidence points to evolution…”
MY REPLY: “evidence”?..sort of like me saying…everything I “see” also (including those bones for evolution) tells me there is a God…yet..you expect us to accept your “theories” as the worldview I am supposed to accept?..it is no more vaild than my belief in God..USING “YOUR” standard for proof…still wating for your “missing links”<- no strawman here.
July 3rd, 2010 at 5:19 pm
[..YouTube..] @Dustiniusprimus
You are so blind to your own stupidity and prejudice that you can’t even understand that your argument is weak..you can no more argue for your worldview than I can for mine…for in each…faith is required..do you deny this?..are you so blind to your prejudice that you can’t recognize the FACTS?…you can no more prove that God doesn’t exist than I can prove he does..you can no more prove that the “big bang” happened than I can that the earth was created by God…it’s faith
July 3rd, 2010 at 5:24 pm
[..YouTube..] @Dustiniusprimus
YOUR QUOTE: “privileges denied to women like priesthood and multiple spouses”
MY REPLY: You little serpent..I know EXACTLY why you do this..you want to plant doubt in this woman..by trying to make it sound like God is biased..trying to make her question her faith..you little serpent..we know the tricks employed by satan..
The answer is…God is all knowing..it is he you need to take this up with..what he says is what we do..who are we to question HIS “ways”?
July 3rd, 2010 at 5:28 pm
[..YouTube..] @Dustiniusprimus
To use the same analogy…using natural selection..why is man stronger?..why do we see in some cultures men abandoning the women after they give birth to children?..seems cruel..so can you account for that (context – these are tribes in Africa – no religion involved in this case sample)..well?..how do you as a man want to explain that to women? Are men just animals?..I mean what differance does having the priesthood or not having the priesthood for these men in this case make?
July 3rd, 2010 at 6:11 pm
[..YouTube..] @Dustiniusprimus
YOU really are a miserable soul..what are you a former member of the church now athiest?..”kicking against the pricks” are we?
I can only imagine the sins you have committed and are committing now..to make you so bitter…what’s the matter…you cheat on your wife?..she left you because of your anger?..now you are mad at the Lord for it?
July 3rd, 2010 at 6:49 pm
[..YouTube..] @imtherealthing I am not interested in the mormon story.It’s all
pathetic lies & truly fake Just as you say.
No one can say anything without an angry retaliation from it’s members.
Call me what you want, it does not alter the facts that there is zero evidence of the Book of Mormon claim. Spare me your psychosis & verifying testiphony.
July 3rd, 2010 at 6:50 pm
[..YouTube..] @Dustiniusprimus
Speaking of theories, would you explain the “theory of gravity” to us?
Let me repeat again so you can’t say you didn’t see my question. Will you explain the “theory of gravity” to us? Well?
July 3rd, 2010 at 6:53 pm
[..YouTube..] @imtherealthing Why call people miserable souls ? It seems that this person woke up. I would implore you to do the same. You may be a happier person, without the angst. “kicking against the pricks” ??? your the prick.
July 3rd, 2010 at 6:55 pm
[..YouTube..] @kramd1
LOL…kramd1 ..just keeps deleting this account..and re-creating it..lol..now that is the definition of “PATHETIC”…lol..poor little guy..he is so pathetic
July 3rd, 2010 at 7:00 pm
[..YouTube..] @imtherealthing there you go,, are we happy today ?
July 3rd, 2010 at 7:04 pm
[..YouTube..] @kramd1
Why are you so scared to reveal yourself?…only a very “sad” person has to keep up this facade of creating and deleting the same account…who are you really? Dustiniusprimus? momoboy?, so many other losers…or perhaps the SAME loser with dozens of accounts…lol..either way..it matters not..we all know what you are —> pathetic…poor confused nobody.
July 3rd, 2010 at 7:12 pm
[..YouTube..] @imtherealthing I have no idea what your talking about. The account has not been changed and I am in good standing with Youtube. If you have a problem with that take it up with Youtube. Stop calling people names and inciting hatred. Your visibly angry and use a a triad of labels , ie: momoboy . what is that ?
poor confused nobody is a little hard on yourself. But probably apt.
July 3rd, 2010 at 7:47 pm
[..YouTube..] @kramd1 We all know who you are even if we don’t know you personally. Reveal yourself for the world if you have nothing to be ashamed of…Repent
July 3rd, 2010 at 8:53 pm
[..YouTube..] @wtalady nonesense
July 3rd, 2010 at 9:48 pm
[..YouTube..] @imtherealthing
As I said before, the effects of the Big Bang can be observed in the trajectory of celestial bodies, which are spreading further and further apart in space. Likewise, as mentioned before, evolution has been tested and observed by persons of much greater credibility than the likes of you. You may call the overwhelming fossil evidence for evolution proof that “God” exists, but I’d like to hear you articulate a compelling argument for how this is so. Should be interesting.
July 3rd, 2010 at 10:49 pm
[..YouTube..] @imtherealthing
Man is stronger due to sexual selection by women, who, in primitive times, would have needed care and protection while they saw to the rearing of their children and would thus, have preferred the strong to the weak for obvious reasons.
What relevance does the incidence of dead-beat fatherhood – which, I would argue, occurs in our own culture as well as Africa’s – have to the truth of Mormonism? What is your point?
July 4th, 2010 at 5:31 pm
[..YouTube..] @Irishtupperware
4 Ne. 1: 26
And they began to be divided into classes; and they began to build up churches unto themselves to get gain, and began to deny the true church of Christ.
July 4th, 2010 at 5:33 pm
[..YouTube..] @Irishtupperware
Tobsy1981 is just a kid..who is no longer LDS because he is going through a rebellious time in his life..I am sure he will realize his folly when he grows up a bit more..and gains an education.
July 4th, 2010 at 5:36 pm
[..YouTube..] @imtherealthing Money shouldn’t play a role in it. But, unfortunatly; you’re right on that. Protestant Evangelicals in particular. Many of the so-called “mega-churches” rake in millions and their leaders live in quite luxurious surroundings. Ever see Paula White’s digs?
July 4th, 2010 at 5:41 pm
[..YouTube..] @imtherealthing Are you quite sure? How do you know who he/she is?
Also, I’m noticing a pattern with you. You seem to think that if one is educated, then suddenly they see the light and come to the conclusion that what you believe is true. What about Richard Dawkins, Christopher Hitchens and Dr Stephen Hawking? They are all very educated and don’t see them becoming LDS/religious anytime soon. Especially Hitchens, if he were here he’d have both you and Doc hanging on his wall LOL!
July 4th, 2010 at 5:52 pm
[..YouTube..] @Irishtupperware
He sent me a PM telling me – well actually he posted on my “comments” section..that’s how. I believe that education is very important..keeps us from ignorance..and God said:
D&C 93: 36
The glory of God is intelligence, or, in other words, light and truth.
I believe a sincere person can know Christ..but usually ignorance doesn’t allow this to happen – it breeds just the opposite..thus why we send missionaries out into the world to educate sincere people about the truth.
July 4th, 2010 at 5:57 pm
[..YouTube..] @Irishtupperware
On the other hand people like yourself who are closed-minded..or people who dislike things of God..no matter how educated..will deny the truth…because they do not want it..for whatever their own personl agenda they have…perhaps they do not want to change thier lifestyle of sin…give up false notions they were taught…they are comfortable in thier lives…they are angry at God for things they feel God allowed to happen to them or didn’t give them, etc, etc.
July 4th, 2010 at 6:02 pm
[..YouTube..] @Irishtupperware
YOU forget..that 90% of the world believes in a deity of some sort..how many PHD’s do you think are in that “90%”…you also forget the millions of brilliant minds that believe in God and argue a case for him…like so many of your kind..you only see the one slice of pie..while everyone else sees the whole pie.
If you want to compare your measely 10% of the world who does not believe in god to those who do.
July 4th, 2010 at 6:04 pm
[..YouTube..] @Irishtupperware
How does it feel to be in the 10% who think they know more than the 90%?
July 4th, 2010 at 6:19 pm
[..YouTube..] @imtherealthing It feels like your percentages are way off. Are you talking world population or US population?
July 4th, 2010 at 6:23 pm
[..YouTube..] @Irishtupperware
How many Roman Catholics do you think there are in the world?..now how may Muslims?..now how many who adhere to Himduism?..now how many to Buddhism?..now how many for all other Christian churches?..now add all that up and subtract that from the world population..let’s not forget the Shiks, Shinto, etc…you tell me.
July 4th, 2010 at 6:34 pm
[..YouTube..] @Irishtupperware
Roman Church membership in 2007 was 1.147 billion people
Muslims 1.57 billion estimated 2009
Hinduism 950 million followers
Buddhism currently has about 376 million followers
Other Christian denominations around 1.3 billion
JUST taking those numbers..and not even Judaism, Shiks, Shinto, Taoism, etc…
we already have…about 5 billion people..just with those few..well?..still want to argue?
world population of 6.8 billion
July 4th, 2010 at 7:14 pm
[..YouTube..] @imtherealthing Buddism is a funny religion. They don’t have a “God” like you guys do. So if their not theists, does that make them A-theist? Very debatable. About 70% of Chinese and nearly 50% of Russia are atheistic and those are in the top 3 in population with India.
July 4th, 2010 at 7:19 pm
[..YouTube..] @imtherealthing Now allow me to turn your logic against you. Using your numbers there are about 1.147 billion Catholics and LDS membership is esimated at a little over 13 million. If the majority is correct, and that’s a huge majority; then Catholic doctrine is true and YOURS is the false apostate church.
July 4th, 2010 at 8:16 pm
[..YouTube..] @Dustiniusprimus
Why are you talking about another “theory”?
I was still waiting for you to explain to us the “theory of gravity”?
Did you send your buddy tobsy1981 to help you? Maybe he can shed light on the “theory of gravity”?
July 4th, 2010 at 8:18 pm
[..YouTube..] @imtherealthing
He has no “argument”, no background or education yet he wants to use his “expertise” to explain the big bang theory while calling the law of gravity – the “theory of gravity”.
July 4th, 2010 at 8:23 pm
[..YouTube..] @imtherealthing
What education?
July 4th, 2010 at 8:24 pm
[..YouTube..] @imtherealthing
Good luck in deciphering kramd1’s posts.
July 4th, 2010 at 8:29 pm
[..YouTube..] @Tobsy1981
Your buddy dustin said the law of gravity was the “theory of gravity”. Might want to help him out before you act like you are an “expert” on here.
July 4th, 2010 at 8:34 pm
[..YouTube..] @Tobsy1981
Typical anti-Mormon hit and run.
Are you sure you can’t help your buddy out with the “theory of gravity” since you are so quick to correct people?
July 4th, 2010 at 8:36 pm
[..YouTube..] @Irishtupperware
Didn’t see any LDS resort to vulgarity, but we appreciate your double standards
July 4th, 2010 at 8:49 pm
[..YouTube..] The christian god can easily be pictured as virtually the same god as the many ancient gods of past civilizations. The christian god is a three-headed monster; cruel, vengeful, and capricious. If one wishes to know more of this raging, three-headed, beast-like god, one only needs to look at the caliber of people who say they serve him. They are always of two classes: fools and hypocrites.
- Thomas Jefferson, letter to Peter Carr, 1813
Happy Independence Day!
July 4th, 2010 at 8:59 pm
[..YouTube..] @DrPorterRockwell
To what end would I explain to you the definition of a scientific theory or the details on one in particular? You have proven yourself impervious to reason or argument and would doubtless smear as “anti-Mormon” any sources I used to back-up the Big Bang or evolution, two THEORIES almost universally accepted in the scientific community.
Let’s turn this game on its head – you come back with a source to back your assertion(sorry, not a theory), that either of these is in doubt?
July 4th, 2010 at 9:02 pm
[..YouTube..] @DrPorterRockwell I’m talking about legitimate, reputable scientists – not pompous, self-reverent majors in religious studies.
July 4th, 2010 at 10:11 pm
[..YouTube..] @Dustiniusprimus
Huh? I couldn’t understand your “superior” knowledge in the sciences.
Explain the “theory of gravity” again and please use smaller words for me. Is that possible since this is my 5th time asking? Well?
July 4th, 2010 at 10:14 pm
[..YouTube..] @Dustiniusprimus
Yes, since you are the “legitimate”, “reputable” scientist with a vast background and education. Oh, wait, you have none.
“Theory of gravity”? Going to explain it?
July 5th, 2010 at 1:54 pm
[..YouTube..] @Dustiniusprimus
“purely semantic”?
Nope, purely stupid!
July 5th, 2010 at 2:04 pm
[..YouTube..] @imtherealthing So again, using your logic; the majority is not correct just because they’re the majority then right?
July 5th, 2010 at 2:07 pm
[..YouTube..] If a 14-year-old boy emerged from the woods today with claims of an inspired vision, would it be more likely that he was a prophet of God, or an imaginative teenager? If a married man and self-styled “Prophet” decreed that God had instructed him in the holiness of polygamy, is it more probable that he was a genuine conduit to the “Creator”, or a tempted husband with lust in his heart?
July 5th, 2010 at 3:57 pm
[..YouTube..] Vem, da je Joseph Smith prerok. Noro
July 5th, 2010 at 5:06 pm
[..YouTube..] @Dustiniusprimus
YOUR QUOTE :”Not jealous, sympathetic. Sorry, I don’t think religious studies are relevant to the fields of cosmology and evolutionary biology.”
MY REPLY: You make this all too easy…lol…and your education in those fields? And, what about Religious Studies? – this is the very topic we are dealing with here..we are discussing “RELGION”..silly littel boy..I know you are jealous and that you wish you knew what you were talking about and that you could somehow confound me.
July 5th, 2010 at 5:10 pm
[..YouTube..] @Dustiniusprimus
God set up a pattern of calling his prophets..that boy in your example would have to fit that pattern and we could all pray to know if he was a prophet – but you wouldn’t be able to grasp all that.. in your worldview..you would rather put your faith in the theory that we all originated from a large bowl of soup…lol..now that is funny..
July 5th, 2010 at 5:16 pm
[..YouTube..] @Irishtupperware
No..the majority of people believe in a deity..just shows us that there is a likelyhood to there being something there. As for the Roman church being bigger..the majority of them are not practicing believers, yet it does not discount thier belief in God..just that many according to Jesus might believe but won’t be saved..it is the “few who PRACTICE” what they believe that will…and practice what is CORRECT… those atheists although small in number will not be saved.
July 5th, 2010 at 5:20 pm
[..YouTube..] @Irishtupperware
Another thing…the majority of those Catholics are only “christain” in name..most believe in a God but it does not matter to them..nor do they practice thier faith in that God..so a MAJORITY can be correct in thier “belief” in a God but not in the practice of what they believe.
The point is..most people believe in a deity – although they all differ in that belief – they still feel in thier hearts that there is something more than themselves..they recognize this
July 5th, 2010 at 5:23 pm
[..YouTube..] @Dustiniusprimus
Moron..”cosmology” has everything to do with religion – it is part of that discipline..you ignormaus..still care to make more of a fool of yourself?
July 5th, 2010 at 6:57 pm
[..YouTube..] @imtherealthing
I’m not convinced that someone unclear on the definition of a scientific theory and in denial of the prevailing scientific explanation for the rapid expansion of the universe could possibly know the first thing about cosmology, you dolt, religious studies and accounting degrees notwithstanding. On that note, why, if all that is necessary to confirm or disprove a claim is a prayer-session, would you even mention your so-called education?
July 5th, 2010 at 7:05 pm
[..YouTube..] @imtherealthing
At one point, damn near everyone on Earth thought the world was flat – was it?
July 5th, 2010 at 7:15 pm
[..YouTube..] @Dustiniusprimus
YOUR QUOTE :”At one point, damn near everyone on Earth thought the world was flat – was it?”
Wrong..the Chinese didn’t, the Mayans didn’t, the Bible talks about the earth being a circle or sphere, etc…many other cultures did not think the earth was “flat” – moron – your obvious limited education tells you “the common myth” that was propogated
July 5th, 2010 at 7:17 pm
[..YouTube..] @Dustiniusprimus
You keep proving to everyone here you are a simpleton who is trying to pass himself off as an intellectual…lol
July 5th, 2010 at 7:21 pm
[..YouTube..] @Dustiniusprimus
YOUR QUOTE :”At one point, damn near everyone on Earth thought the world was flat – was it?”
LOL..you are parroting an old belief..no such thing was truly being said by people in the Middle-Ages..simpleton.
The Mayans didn’t believe this, the Aztecs, native people, etc…so not ALL believed in this as you would watn us to believe or continue to propogate an old myth that this was the case..simpleton.
July 5th, 2010 at 7:24 pm
[..YouTube..] @Dustiniusprimus
YOUR QUOTE :”On that note, why, if all that is necessary to confirm or disprove a claim is a prayer-session, would you even mention your so-called education?”
MY REPLY:
What you CEASE to GRASP is that your worldview is in the “MINORITY”..so your mocking of the MAJORITY “OPINION” does not concern us…you still want to further embarrass yourself?
July 5th, 2010 at 7:26 pm
[..YouTube..] @Dustiniusprimus
YOUR QUOTE: “On that note, why, if all that is necessary to confirm or disprove a claim is a prayer-session, would you even mention your so-called education?”
MY REPLY: Who cares what “you” think – you are after all..in the “MINORITY” who believe the way you do…your worldview is not shared by the 90% of the world’s population.
July 5th, 2010 at 7:40 pm
[..YouTube..] @Dustiniusprimus
Isaiah 40:22
Teaches us that the earth was a circle or sphere way before science did.
July 5th, 2010 at 8:28 pm
[..YouTube..] @imtherealthing
You know, human existence didn’t begin with the Bible; there were people around before that great, best-seller of fiction was penned, or, more appropriately, compiled by, wouldn’t you know it, the Catholics. The same Catholics who tortured, imprisoned and extorted a confession of guilt from Galileo for postulating that, just maybe, the Earth wasn’t the center of the universe. Then, as now, religion couldn’t abide science casting doubt on its divine infallibility….
July 5th, 2010 at 8:39 pm
[..YouTube..] @Dustiniusprimus
Who cares what the Catholic church did..from a Latter-day Saint perspective they had fallen away from the truth..there was an apostacy. God was not working with that church..it never was HIS church..although God still heard the prayers of his children in all faiths he did not and does not recognize the RCC as having his authority – thus lots of atrocities were committed by those professing to be “christians”.
Our God tells us “The Glory of God is intelligence”
July 5th, 2010 at 8:41 pm
[..YouTube..] @Dustiniusprimus
I noticed nothing but silence on yet again another blunder of ignorance on your part (i.e. the earth was believed by everyone to be flat)…so you try to cover it with yet another rant…lol..you still want to embarrass yourself further?
July 5th, 2010 at 8:43 pm
[..YouTube..] @imtherealthing
… And divine error(?). We now know that, in fact, the Earth is not the center of the universe and, I would extrapolate, neither is humanity. But I digress because…
… at any rate, in some long ago era, during the infancy of our species, centuries before the compilation of the Bible, I think it is safe to presume that humans probably took their environment at face-value and figured the world was flat. And they were wrong…
July 5th, 2010 at 8:52 pm
[..YouTube..] @imtherealthing
This is the point that seems to have eluded you – just because a majority believe something does not make it true. Are you sure you want to suggest that it does? After all, Mormonism is certainly not a majority religion. Most Americans – probably an even greater majority of Mormons – at the time the Civil Rights Act was passed, opposed full civil rights for African-Americans. Was the majority right to take this position? You tell me.
July 5th, 2010 at 10:44 pm
[..YouTube..] @Dustiniusprimus
I am sure he will. Hold your horses.
July 5th, 2010 at 10:45 pm
[..YouTube..] Paul taught that God “will have [wants] all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth” (1 Tim. 2:4). Further, 2 Peter 3:9 teaches that God wants none to perish but wants all men to repent (see also Acts 17:30 and 2 Cor. 7:10). And Christ taught that “it is not the will of your Father which is in heaven, that one of these little ones should perish” (Matt. 18:14).
July 5th, 2010 at 10:46 pm
[..YouTube..] 1 Ne. 8: 27-28
27 And it was filled with people, both old and young, both male and female; and their manner of dress was exceedingly fine; and they were in the attitude of mocking and pointing their fingers towards those who had come at and were partaking of the fruit.
28 And after they had tasted of the fruit they were bashamed, because of those that were scoffing at them; and they fell away into forbidden paths and were lost.
July 6th, 2010 at 3:00 am
[..YouTube..] @imtherealthing
“knowledge”?
You are giving him way too much credit.
July 6th, 2010 at 3:01 am
[..YouTube..] @DrPorterRockwell
I think Dustiniusprimus and beeblequix are getting their information from Shawn’s videos…lol..that’s why they don’t know what they are talking about…lol
July 6th, 2010 at 3:04 am
[..YouTube..] @DrPorterRockwell
YOUR QUOTE :”"knowledge”?
You are giving him way too much credit.”
MY REPLY: I try to be nice to the simple minded
July 6th, 2010 at 3:18 am
[..YouTube..] @imtherealthing
Yes, this is the extent of their “education” from You-tube University where you can receive PhDs in any subject from highly esteemed professors like Shawn McCraney, Richard Dawkins and the likes.
Who needs a real education when you have the internet? No one will notice how dense we are, right anti-Mormons?
July 6th, 2010 at 4:49 am
[..YouTube..] @imtherealthing
Even if true, your claims of JS’s abolitionism don’t change the fact that it was 1978 before black men (and only men) were permitted ordination into the priesthood. Obviously, the “Apostles” prior to this date didn’t view their black brothers as equals; it’s well-known that Mormons believe people of African descent to be the targets of a curse for siding with Satan and that their complexion is thought to be a mark of this curse.
Commence with your diversions…
July 6th, 2010 at 12:01 pm
[..YouTube..] @Dustiniusprimus
YOUR QUOTE: “that Mormons believe people of African descent to be the targets of a curse for siding with Satan and that their complexion is thought to be a mark of this curse.”
MY REPLY: When are you going to check out your “facts”?..when is this malady of stupidity going to come to an end for you?..LOL..AGAIN…WRONG!!!..NEVER in our church doctrines did we teach this..ever!..You need to check out your anti-mormon sources…like we have said – “google” is not your friend
July 6th, 2010 at 12:05 pm
[..YouTube..] @Dustiniusprimus
RE: The Blacks curse
It is obvious to me and everyone “in-the-know” that your sources for your information is not based in academic research but internet sources – just like your error on the LDS church sustaining slavery, just like your error on believing that people believed the earth was flat – a myth that only the ignorant keep propagating – like yourself…and now this..too funny – let me give you the source for your stupidty – “The God Makers” by Ed Decker
July 6th, 2010 at 12:11 pm
[..YouTube..] @Dustiniusprimus
Do you still want to keep showing us how stupid you are? Again regarding that error in your reserach about the blacks “siding with satan” – nowhere in our “theology” did we ever teach this..there were people in the day who believed this but it was not official LDS theology nor will you find this in our ures.. this was not limited to our faith but to the “culture” of the time..not just religion – dim wit – take a few courses on Ealry Sociology – get yourself educated
July 6th, 2010 at 12:16 pm
[..YouTube..] @Dustiniusprimus
YOUR QUOTE : “Commence with your diversions…”
MY REPLY : What “diversions”?..the only person I see making any kind of “diversions” is you..you are silent on all the errors we caught you on..why?..you then proceed to utter more nonsense to avoid the FACT that we proved you did not know what you were talking about – here let me re-cap it all for you AGAIN:
1) your theory of gravity 2) flat earth error 3) slavery issue error 4) the blscks siding with satan, etc, etc..DIVERT
July 6th, 2010 at 12:20 pm
[..YouTube..] @Dustiniusprimus
RE: Blacks and the Priesthood
God does things in his own time. God allowed only ONE tribe of the 12 in OT times to hold the priesthood and in the NT times Jesus did not preach to the Gentiles NOT until AFTER he ascended to Heaven and in these latter-days it was the blacks who receieved the priesthood when it was thier time..the LDS church could have caved into pressure during the 60’s when pressure was there to do so, but didn’t because the Lord said it was not time yet
July 6th, 2010 at 12:21 pm
[..YouTube..] @Dustiniusprimus
So simpelton..you still want to spar? You still want to show us all again just how smart you think you are? Did Google send you your degree yet?
July 6th, 2010 at 1:50 pm
[..YouTube..] @imtherealthing
I’ve addressed each of these so-called “errors”.1) See “Newtonian” or “gravitational theory”
2)Yes, it is a fact that at one time, there were those who believed the Earth to be flat. That we are spending any time splitting this hair is most certainly a bait and switch tactic on your part to shift the focus from you erroneous implication that popular opinion must be true as in the popular belief in a deity.
3) Slavery issue error?
…
July 6th, 2010 at 1:59 pm
[..YouTube..] @Dustiniusprimus
1) when we speak of gravity..we do not use “gravitationl theory” dolt!!..we speak of it as The LAW of Gravity…who is “spltting hairs” here ot save himself from being embarrassed?..hmm? – you erred..now you are trying to find an out..moron…using the “general theory of relativity” to explain the LAW of Gravity to cover your backside..doesn’t win the argument..sorry
July 6th, 2010 at 2:03 pm
[..YouTube..] @imtherealthing…
4)This is another case of the Church changing or glossing-over the teachings it deems too silly for mass-consumption. You can claim that God instructed the “Saints” not to permit black men(or women, of any background), into the priesthood, but I think their motives were all-too-human, and your claims to divine revelation won’t sway me, or any thinking people, from this view.
July 6th, 2010 at 2:05 pm
[..YouTube..] @Dustiniusprimus
2) NO – just because IGNORANT people propagated this myth about people believing in a flat earth in the Middle Ages does not make it so. Understand? People did not believe this in the Middle Ages you dolt…understand? go read up on this…this was a later creation – people in ancient times also believed the earth was a sphere..only a FEW cultures believed otherwise…thanks for passing on more disinformation – dim wit.
3) The LDS church did not support slavery – dim wit
July 6th, 2010 at 2:08 pm
[..YouTube..] @Dustiniusprimus
4) I could care less for your “opinions” that is how the Lord God works..He does things HIS way..whether you want to accept it or not..matters not to me or HIM or the 90% of the worlds believers..the point is..you were ignorant of this fact and in your ignorance (AGAIN) you showed us that you indeed turn to and depend on the internet for your information –
July 6th, 2010 at 2:11 pm
[..YouTube..] @Dustiniusprimus
You still want to show us more of your IGNORANCE?…
ROFL!!!
July 6th, 2010 at 2:22 pm
[..YouTube..] @imtherealthing
1) I’m sorry that your storied education has left you ignorant of scientific theory, which is an attempt to explain broad phenomena using a model comprised of individual, testable, verifiable hypotheses working in tandem. Gravity would qualify for this definition.
2) I didn’t specify a particular time-period when I said that, once, people believed the Earth was flat. At any rate, this was only a hypothetical example to demonstrate that the majority is not always correct.
July 6th, 2010 at 2:38 pm
[..YouTube..] @imtherealthing
3) I haven’t accused the Church of supporting slavery.
4) “I could care less for your opinions…”.
Likewise. All you can claim in support of yours is that they were validated in prayer.
ATTORNEY: Ladies and gentlemen of the jury, my client is innocent of all charges – I know this from prayer.
JUDGE: Oh, well then, I guess this court is adjourned.
July 6th, 2010 at 2:51 pm
[..YouTube..] @Dustiniusprimus
1) Nice try..still..you erred in your usage of the word and its meaning..PERIOD
2) I see you are trying really hard to back-pedal on this and your other mistakes…you used it in error and ignorance just like those in times past and those today who continue to propogate this myth about the past believing in this
3)You sure did accuse the LDS church of this..read your comments below..heck..I’ll quote you…
4) That still stands – it is a “you” say..”I” say situation – PERIOD
July 6th, 2010 at 2:56 pm
[..YouTube..] @Dustiniusprimus
YOUR QUOTE :”Most Americans – probably an even greater majority of Mormons – at the time the Civil Rights Act was passed, opposed full civil rights for African-Americans”
MY REPLY: Although you do not say “slavery” the implication was that the church supported this via the claim that the church agreed with blacks not having rights….the mentality of slavery being accepted.
July 6th, 2010 at 3:01 pm
[..YouTube..] @Dustiniusprimus
YOUR QUOTE :”Most Americans – probably an even greater majority of Mormons – at the time the Civil Rights Act was passed, opposed full civil rights for African-Americans”
MY REPLY: Although you do not use the word “slavery” the implicaton is there that the LDS church believed in the notion that blacks being slaves is ok…that the church did not “opposse civil rights” for them meant that we agreed with this mentality of slavery.
July 6th, 2010 at 6:33 pm
[..YouTube..] Wow, it came to pass that I just shitteth my trousers
July 6th, 2010 at 6:54 pm
[..YouTube..] @kevinbreen
Incontinence is obviously effecting more than your “trousers”. Does atheism also cause those sleepless nights kevinbreen?
July 6th, 2010 at 7:50 pm
[..YouTube..] @DrPorterRockwell Yea, verily I sayeth unto you that as written on golden plates, that I’m not going to show you by the way, I doth falleth asleep soon, with a burning in my bosom. Nothing keeps me awake more than my amusement at thinking of people like you, god-fearing, bible-worshipping fairy-tale-ists. Enjoy eternity good Doctor.
July 7th, 2010 at 1:40 pm
[..YouTube..] @Dustiniusprimus
Dustiniusprimus preaching about “maturity” and “logic”. Only on youtube!
How is that “theory of gravity” coming along?
July 7th, 2010 at 1:42 pm
[..YouTube..] @imtherealthing
No one does, but he is desperately trying hence why he is stalking you even on other LDS videos. He needs your acceptance!
July 7th, 2010 at 1:42 pm
[..YouTube..] @imtherealthing
The feeling is mutual. It’s hard to take seriously anyone who takes seriously the claims of a destitute, self-styled treasure-hunter and seer to having found long-since vanished golden plates inscribed in a non-existent language with “holy” writings or who thinks that their underwear can render them bullet-proof and impervious to harm. I question the sanity of anyone asking me to take such drivel seriously.
July 7th, 2010 at 2:43 pm
[..YouTube..] @Dustiniusprimus
You need help..sorry I can’t help you. There is only ONE cure for stupidity…an education..a REAL one
July 7th, 2010 at 2:45 pm
[..YouTube..] @Dustiniusprimus
“such drivel”
LOL..still pretending to be intelligent huh?..using such words does not give you better credibility..methinks you protest too much
July 7th, 2010 at 3:07 pm
[..YouTube..] @imtherealthing
And what have you and your loyal sidekick done but stammer on about how “educated” you are while showing little understanding of either history, science, or even how to properly compose a sentence? We see page after page of evasive maneuvering and very little attention to the historical, archaeological, and scientific problems inherent in Mormonism. You may think prayer is a worthy substitute for inquiry and evidence but you’re in small and shrinking company.
July 7th, 2010 at 3:17 pm
[..YouTube..] @Dustiniusprimus
YOUR QUOTE :”while showing little understanding of either history, science,”
MY REPLY: You are one very sick and delluded individual..lots of mentally ill people out there in the world..you are not cognitive of your mental illness.
July 7th, 2010 at 3:23 pm
[..YouTube..] @imtherealthing
Education hasn’t cured your stupidity. Half the time you can’t even form a complete sentence. Some “education”. Try reading over your comment before posting. I learned how to edit in high school yet you, learned scholar of academia, have failed to employ even this elementary concept.
Petty?
Perhaps. But you have ceaselessly impugned the intelligence and education of non-Mormons, calling them “anti-Mormon” if they happen to disagree and accusing them of being dishonest.
July 7th, 2010 at 3:30 pm
[..YouTube..] @Dustiniusprimus
Sorry can’t help you..it seems your stupidity is incurable.
July 7th, 2010 at 3:35 pm
[..YouTube..] @imtherealthing
Why quote me if you don’t intend to address the accusation?
July 7th, 2010 at 3:42 pm
[..YouTube..] @Dustiniusprimus
YOUR QUOTE :”Why quote me if you don’t intend to address the accusation?”
MY REPLY : um..we did..you most definately proved to us..that indeed you do NOT understand anything about “science” and “history” – thus my comment to you about being deluded and not being cognitive of this FACT.
July 7th, 2010 at 3:47 pm
[..YouTube..] @Dustiniusprimus
I should charge you for being your makeshift therapist..in all seriousness go seek help from a professional. Sociopathic behaviour may be medicated..but like I said..that is not my expertise…so I don’t know..I guess I could do a “google” search to find out, but I don’t put too much into that like you do as they can’t be trusted nor substitute for a real diagnosis.
July 7th, 2010 at 4:38 pm
[..YouTube..] “In contrast,” he said, “we as Latter-day Saints teach of the sanctity of life, the virtue of families and the truth of God’s declaration that the earth has ‘enough and to spare’ (See Doctrine and Covenants 104:17). My counsel is that you put your trust in God. He has sent you to the earth to be happy. He wants you to love, to marry and to form families worthy of the blessing of His glory — that of eternal life.”
July 7th, 2010 at 5:30 pm
[..YouTube..] @Dustiniusprimus Recent discoveries of NON LDS scholars with the help of NEPHIPROJECT . com have really Rocked the foundation of the Christian world. Their only defense is “NU UH.”
I’m so thankful for my knowledge that the Book of Mormon is the Word of God and is ure, another testament that Jesus is the Christ, the son of the LIVING GOD!
Members are still REQUIRED to pray about the BoM. see Moroni 10:3-5 God answers every humble prayer!
jefflindsaydotcom
July 7th, 2010 at 5:39 pm
[..YouTube..] @Dustiniusprimus
Yes, because let us not forget you called the “law of gravity” the “theory of gravity”, but as the typical anti-Mormon hypocrite you state: “showing little understanding of either history, science, or even how to properly compose a sentence”.
Since you are so “petty”, you missed the “a” before “small” for if you left small out of the sentence, it would be improper grammar.
Face it, you are obsessed with imtherealthing because he has consistently made a fool of you.
July 7th, 2010 at 5:44 pm
[..YouTube..] @Dustiniusprimus
Anger doesn’t take away the fact that even if he doesn’t form complete sentence, he schools you with every post and absolutely makes you look dense.
Your “high school education” has failed you, go back to school so you don’t have to be so jealous of imtherealthing.
It is truly pathetically sad and if I could I would give you a hug because it really sounds like you need one with your constant whine.
July 7th, 2010 at 5:47 pm
[..YouTube..] @imtherealthing
I would be careful, he could end up on your doorstep. He clearly has a stalking obsession with you on LDS videos.
July 7th, 2010 at 6:42 pm
[..YouTube..] @DrPorterRockwell
I write in reformed english..lol…so as to put as much into the limited space here as possible – and I am more than aware of my many typos too because darn it..I do not have a spellchecker in this medium and I am BUSY flying between my work and posting on other videos here and elsewhere..no time to check what I type….but if that is the best Dustiniusprimus can come up with against me…lol..then the poor guy needs to really work harder at trying to insult me…lol
July 7th, 2010 at 6:55 pm
[..YouTube..] I have read the book and I have seen the Light. Thanks to the great Joe, I no longer believe in the Easter Bunny, or the Tooth Fairy. Yea, now I believe the Book Of Mormon to be true. This is my testimony. I KNOW it to be true. I have felt the burning in my bosom.
OK, that was easy, too easy. If you’re predisposed to believing in this nonsense, or any nonsense, then chances are you’ll get hooked.
July 7th, 2010 at 8:16 pm
[..YouTube..] @omiolo
“Eternal life”.
It really does strike at the heart of the issue. You and your pious ilk are so convinced of your divine significance in the universe that you refuse to acknowledge the finiteness of your life. Rather than face the fact of your limited existence, you indulge in a useless fantasy of immortality, hoping and praying to live beyond your physical demise.
July 7th, 2010 at 8:30 pm
[..YouTube..] @Dustiniusprimus “You and your pious ilk”
I am no longer confused about who I am now……
July 7th, 2010 at 8:32 pm
[..YouTube..] Surprised that any serious critic of the Book of Mormon would undertake a defense of that moribund theory, Roberts wondered, “Is it not really about time to dismiss all that?”
July 7th, 2010 at 9:02 pm
[..YouTube..] @kevinbreen
“Nonsense” doesn’t describe atheism?
You are right, it is so much easier to believe in the “big bang theory” that created the innumerable planets and stars and that we came from “chemical/tomato soup” that “accidentally” created life. Yes, thank goodness the “brilliance” of mankind has this all figured out so now we can eat, drink and be merry for there is no tomorrow for we all die.
We know why you mock kevinbreen, you are nothing new.
July 7th, 2010 at 10:08 pm
[..YouTube..] @DrPorterRockwell
If you are so skeptical about the Big Bang, with its empirical, observable evidence, then what accounts for your readiness to accept that the Book of Mormon as divinely-revealed truth? Let me guess – you prayed about it and determined it to be true?
July 7th, 2010 at 10:52 pm
[..YouTube..] @LDSriniel You said, “I lOVE JOSEPH SMITH MORE THAN WORDS CAN EXPRESS. HOW DO YOU THANK SOMEONE WHO HELPED OPEN THE DOOR TO ETERNAL LIFE AND LOVE?” I am thankful for people like you that share their beautiful testimonies. I believe that Joseph Smith is a true prophet of God who died as a martyr for the truth. because of his obedience to Heavenly Father, and the miraculous blessing of the Book of Mormon, which is Another Testament of Jesus Christ.
July 8th, 2010 at 12:28 am
[..YouTube..] @Dustiniusprimus
“empirical” and “observable evidence”?
Show one source without “theoretical considerations” that the big bang theory is true and with your high school education – refrain from wikipedia.
July 8th, 2010 at 12:58 am
[..YouTube..] @MsEndure2end
=] thank you for your support. I have said similar things on many different pages, and have been hated for it. But that just strengthens the words of the prophets and the words of the scriptures that say that many will deny the words of christ and rely on man’s logic instead of god’s wisdom. nothing they say can deter me, and I’m glad the same for you.
July 8th, 2010 at 2:08 am
[..YouTube..] @Dustiniusprimus
Still trying to show us all how smart you “think” you are?…lol
July 8th, 2010 at 12:57 pm
[..YouTube..] @imtherealthing lol
July 8th, 2010 at 1:27 pm
[..YouTube..] @DrPorterRockwell
Every theory, as such, is based on “theoretical considerations”. Again you display your utter misapprehension of how science works. It is a fact that the great majority of cosmologists accept the Big Bang as the best model currently devised to explain the origins of the universe. No amount of faith to the contrary can negate this fact and I leave it up to you to demonstrate otherwise. Considering that your evidence is a religious text, I don’t think your position is tenable.
July 8th, 2010 at 1:44 pm
[..YouTube..] Joseph Smith wrote the Book of Mormon along with Martin Harris and Oliver Cowdery. It was a feat that three men accomplished over 4 years when I myself could have done it in 6 months. The entire text is filled with liguistic errors and dessicated sections of the KJ Bible. There is absolutely NO evidence for it at all. The archaeology of the Americas is inconsistent with the book’s claims, and conventional qualatitive scholarship has debunked it again and again. Stop lying to yourselves.
July 8th, 2010 at 2:06 pm
[..YouTube..] @Dustiniusprimus
“It is a fact that the great majority of cosmologists accept the Big Bang”.
Really? Then prove it liar. Show us a source of this lie. Come on stop being a coward.
I have a science background and yours again? Oh thats right, you called the law of gravity the “theory of gravity”. Remember that genius?
I didn’t expect you to give a source to any of your lying claims. You are completely incapable as an idiot.
July 8th, 2010 at 2:47 pm
[..YouTube..] @DrPorterRockwell
Ask anyone at NASA if they believe in the Big Bang, you imbecile. Will you discredit the institution that has sent men to the moon and probes to distant planets(no sign of Kolob, as yet)? Was Edwin Hubble an anti-Mormon?
You have a science background? How do you explain your ignorance of what comprises a scientific theory?
July 8th, 2010 at 4:19 pm
[..YouTube..] @Dustiniusprimus
That is your source? Really? To “ask anyone at NASA”? To “ask”?
And you call me the “imbecile”?
You truly are going down with the sinking ship. Absolutely amazing!
July 8th, 2010 at 8:10 pm
[..YouTube..] @DrPorterRockwell Why can’t you believe that there’s probably nothing to believe in, statistically speaking? And by the way, stop coming on strong all eternal damnation on me, I mean, get a grip and try to act a tad mature, good Doctor. Enjoy your sojourn on earth, while it lasts. What more do you want?
July 8th, 2010 at 8:24 pm
[..YouTube..] @kevinbreen
“probably”?
Wow! That is such a confident statement!
No wonder you are here mocking our solid beliefs, you have no personal foundation to stand on. You are tossed to and fro with every wind of doctrine and philosophy of man and can only come up with a “probably’?
“all eternal damnation on me”?
Where did I say that? Are you making things up now? And kevinbreen no one is interested in hearing you whine.
July 8th, 2010 at 10:13 pm
[..YouTube..] @LDSriniel I believe that the Book of Mormon is the most correct book of any other and was transcribed by Joseph Smith, a true, honest and obedient servant of our Heavenly Father.
July 8th, 2010 at 10:16 pm
[..YouTube..] @xburningheavensx I believe that the Book of Mormon is the most correct book of any other and was transcribed by Joseph Smith, a true, honest and obedient servant of our Heavenly Father.
July 8th, 2010 at 11:01 pm
[..YouTube..] @xburningheavensx I believe that the Book of Mormon is the most correct book of any other and was transcribed by Joseph Smith, a true, honest and obedient servant of our Heavenly Father.
July 9th, 2010 at 12:07 am
[..YouTube..] @MsEndure2end you remind me of elder holland when he said that he speaks his testimony in the most simple and plain words he can muster, so people can understand. thank you.
July 9th, 2010 at 11:48 am
[..YouTube..] I think Smith and his mates got together over a few drinks and smith said “I bet you five dollars I can make up a religion and get people to believe it”. And here we are today.
July 9th, 2010 at 2:06 pm
[..YouTube..] @ptango101
ummm not even close, and I’m willing to bet you 100 billion dollars on it.
July 9th, 2010 at 7:52 pm
[..YouTube..] LDS is fake
July 9th, 2010 at 7:57 pm
[..YouTube..] @1allforhim Your pastor is fake.
July 9th, 2010 at 7:59 pm
[..YouTube..] @LDS4Life71
well your religion is fake, just read th Bible
July 9th, 2010 at 8:04 pm
[..YouTube..] @1allforhim yeah I read it, and kept it in context, unlike you and your imperfect faith that picks and chooses verses.
July 9th, 2010 at 8:06 pm
[..YouTube..] @LDS4Life71
no I do, your the one that ignores verses that are in conflict with your faith
July 9th, 2010 at 8:16 pm
[..YouTube..] @1allforhim You have no credibility. You are not born again, you have not entered at the straight gate which leads to life in Matt. 7.
July 9th, 2010 at 8:21 pm
[..YouTube..] @LDS4Life71
reall the one who believes in a religion that was made up by a crazy guy is saying that i have no credibility
July 9th, 2010 at 8:25 pm
[..YouTube..] @1allforhim If anyone appears crazy around here, that would be you and your kind.
July 9th, 2010 at 8:28 pm
[..YouTube..] @LDS4Life71
really, hay are you going to become a god when you die and rule over your own little world
July 9th, 2010 at 8:32 pm
[..YouTube..] @1allforhim I shall inherit the earth…. can’t say the same bout you.
July 9th, 2010 at 8:45 pm
[..YouTube..] @LDS4Life71
no no, you dont want stay here on earth, i thought you wanted to become a god
July 9th, 2010 at 8:49 pm
[..YouTube..] @1allforhim I thought you want become a pile of sod.
July 9th, 2010 at 9:01 pm
[..YouTube..] @LDS4Life71
well that made no since
July 10th, 2010 at 9:32 am
[..YouTube..] @1allforhim neither do your false doctrines and false interpretations of the bible.
July 10th, 2010 at 1:05 pm
[..YouTube..] The book of mormon came straight from Joseph’s brain and was all made up. So was the bible by various ancient men who all had no understanding, simpily because nobody had discovered the important facts we have today. You can’t really blame them for not having facts. I just don’t get why some people see how inaccurate those booke are.
July 10th, 2010 at 1:23 pm
[..YouTube..] @LDSriniel That was Jesus not Joseph Smith!! He shed his blood to give you the key to eternal life and love….
July 10th, 2010 at 1:47 pm
[..YouTube..] @LDS4Life71
so even though there is overwhelming evidence that the LDS is not real you still believe
July 10th, 2010 at 3:01 pm
[..YouTube..] @KJP412 I did not discredit jesus. I believe that Joseph Smith did more than any man save Jesus to open the doors to eternal life.
If you are concerned I love Joseph Smith is greater than my love for Jesus, don’t be. I love Jesus more than words can tell. It is hard to describe.
July 10th, 2010 at 3:02 pm
[..YouTube..] @KJP412 plus — i hope you’d notice that I did not say HE opened the door to eternal life (that was jesus) i just said he helped with it.
July 10th, 2010 at 8:49 pm
[..YouTube..] @1allforhim
July 10th, 2010 at 8:50 pm
[..YouTube..] There is overwhelming evidence that makes the book of mormon a book for 2500BC to 421AD and it is overwhelmingly true.
July 11th, 2010 at 12:39 am
[..YouTube..] MANCHESTER — While soccer fans from much of the rest of the world were trying to make their way to her home country for the latter stages of the World Cup, Kim Brown was traveling from just north of Johannesburg, South Africa, to a hillside between the villages of Manchester and Palmyra.
July 11th, 2010 at 6:45 am
[..YouTube..] @LDS4Life71 Your “religion” is right up there with scientology. There is no physical, quantifiable evidence that your book is what it says it is. Where are the ruins of these cities that were on the American continent?
July 11th, 2010 at 10:39 am
[..YouTube..] @ptango101 Cortez saw them and commented on them while he was in central america. That’s where.
July 11th, 2010 at 10:57 am
[..YouTube..] Don’t judge this book by its cover or by what you might think you know about it. Take some time to read it. We have read it numerous times and are posting topics here to help you as you read. As Herbert Spencer once said, “There is a principle which is a bar against all information, which is proof against all arguments and which cannot fail to keep a man in everlasting ignorance – that principle is contempt prior to investigation.”
July 11th, 2010 at 2:33 pm
[..YouTube..] Wow guys. It’s not very Christ-like to argue. I personally like reading the BOM.
it’s very interesting and I encourage you to read it.
July 11th, 2010 at 5:55 pm
[..YouTube..] During their visit, June 4-13, member conferences, leadership meetings, missionary conferences and firesides were held in many cities throughout the vast landmass of Eastern Europe. Specific sites visited included Moscow, St. Petersburg, Novosibirk and Yekaterinburg, Russia; Kyiv, Ukraine; and Yerevan, Armenia.
July 11th, 2010 at 11:10 pm
[..YouTube..] @omiolo
lies
July 12th, 2010 at 10:23 am
[..YouTube..] If there was “overwhelming evidence” why would it be the fastest growing Christian religion? Find something better to do with your time. Show us evidence rather than just say it’s there
July 12th, 2010 at 10:36 am
[..YouTube..] The trouble is theres not one scrap of evidence to suggest that the book of mormon is of divinity. Joseph might only have had 3 years of formal education but thats not to say that he could’t have researched from the library studied the scriptures and so on before compiling the BofM. He might have had a brilliant imagination after all it came about from a peep stone and hat didn’t it?
July 12th, 2010 at 7:23 pm
[..YouTube..] @ketgirl34 I am so thankful for the testimony I have that the Book of Mormon is of divinity. I believe the Holy Spirit will reveal this truth to any sincere person who has read and prayed. I stand as a witness that Joseph Smith was a true prophet of God and transcribed the sacred scripture with God’s divine help. With God all things are possible.
July 12th, 2010 at 10:14 pm
[..YouTube..] @1allforhim yes that is ALL the ANTImormons have!
July 12th, 2010 at 10:14 pm
[..YouTube..] 100 years of Scouting
July 12th, 2010 at 10:14 pm
[..YouTube..] On my honor, I will do my best to do my duty to God and my country and to obey the Scout Law; To help other people at all times; To keep myself physically strong, mentally awake and morally straight.” — Scout Oath
July 13th, 2010 at 12:36 am
[..YouTube..] @omiolo well using the Bible doesnt work since yall just add words into things in the Bible that dont go along with your church
July 13th, 2010 at 12:56 am
[..YouTube..] Many can distinguish anti-Christ groups easily since they deny Jesus Christ.
But it is not easy to distinguish “disguised” anti Christ groups like Mormons.
Mormons believe the book of Mormon.
You believe Jesus is Christ who died for your sins and death, and at the same time you believe in the book of Mormon. This is nothing but anti Christ.
July 13th, 2010 at 2:56 am
[..YouTube..] mormons are ****** NUTS
July 13th, 2010 at 3:33 am
[..YouTube..] @Sarah01181225 I believe the Book of Mormon to be God-given because it testifies of Jesus Christ who died for our sins and was then resurrected so that all of us may be resurrected. Mormon is a nickname for The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. We believe in God the Eternal Father and in His Son, Jesus Christ and in the Holy Ghost. I am never alone because Jesus Christ atoned for my sins and He is my friend. I belong to His Church and am so grateful for such a blessing.
July 13th, 2010 at 10:47 am
[..YouTube..] @1allforhim Which of the 10,000 DIFFERENT Bibles are you referring to?
July 13th, 2010 at 10:47 am
[..YouTube..] The leaders were accompanied by the Africa Southeast Area presidency; Elder Paul E. Koelliker, president, and his wife, Ann; Elder F. Michael Watson, first counselor, and his wife, Jolene; and Elder Dale G. Renlund, second counselor, and his wife, Ruth, at various meetings.
July 13th, 2010 at 10:48 am
[..YouTube..] Sister Beck and Sister Elaine S. Dalton, Young Women general president visited with members and local leaders in six African nations during their 11-day tour.
July 13th, 2010 at 10:48 am
[..YouTube..] Sister Beck began her tour in Zimbabwe, providing training and participating in a special devotional on Sunday, May 22. During her visit, she viewed several humanitarian sites, which included a mill for grinding corn and other grains for use by local villagers. She participated in similar leadership training in Cape Town, South Africa and Maputo, Mozambique.
July 13th, 2010 at 11:13 am
[..YouTube..] @MsEndure2end If you believe Jesus Christ died for your sins through shedding his precious blood, and if you believe he rose again from the dead, you must hold onto the Old testament and the New testament ,NOT Mormons. The Bible is enough for all of us, nothing else.
July 13th, 2010 at 2:17 pm
[..YouTube..] @omiolo
the one BIble, and there is no differnce between the verisons, ESV, KJV, NIV, ASV are all the same they say the same thing
July 13th, 2010 at 6:01 pm
[..YouTube..] @Sarah01181225 I believe Jesus Christ was chosen by God to be our Savior. Jesus was sinless and chose to die for our sins because he loves us so much. He had power over death and was resurrected so that we can be. I am thankful that the prophet Joseph Smith obeyed God, died as a martyr, to help provide the Book of Mormon, and enable us to read these sacred truths which augment the Holy Bible. The Book of Mormon is a second strong witness of the divinity of Christ. It is such a blessing.
July 13th, 2010 at 7:05 pm
[..YouTube..] @MsEndure2end Google Cult groups in North America. You guys are #1.
Believing besides the Bible which are God’s words is a CULT no matter how holy it is.
I am telling you to STICK TO THE BIBLE ONLY.
July 13th, 2010 at 7:14 pm
[..YouTube..] @1allforhim “the one BIble, and there is no differnce between the verisons”
actually the BIbles ALL have different doctrine and the protestant bible has different BOOKS than the catholic bible. Please learn about the Bible BEFORE commenting.
July 13th, 2010 at 7:14 pm
[..YouTube..] The hand carts, built according to the specifications of Mormon leader Brigham Young, were designed to hold the belongings of Mormons who came to this country from Europe and wanted to join the group in Salt Lake City. Young succeeded Joseph Smith who was killed in 1844 by a mob in Carthage, Ill. He led more than 2,000 Mormons to the Great Salt Lake Valley.
July 13th, 2010 at 7:15 pm
[..YouTube..] Tony Ort, and his wife, Suzan, of Perry Township are among the 14 couples who will serve as “Ma” and “Pa” couples to lead “created” families of 10 to 14 young people on the trek.
“We’re walking a lot to get ready for it,” said Suzan, explaining that everyone will be attired in the clothing worn in the middle 1800s.
July 13th, 2010 at 7:47 pm
[..YouTube..] @Sarah01181225 The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints worships Jesus Christ. I love the prophets Joseph Smith, Thomas S. Monson, Brigham Young, Moses, Isaiah and many more. I do not worship them, but worship the God that they also worship and serve. All scripture, including the Book of Mormon, testifies and prophesies of Jesus Christ. Google is not my source of information on this. The scriptures, prayer and the Spirit are. What a wonderful gift.
July 13th, 2010 at 11:43 pm
[..YouTube..] @omiolo
yes they are, but those extra books in the catholic Bible, even though i dont agree with them, dont make difference in salvation, but the BOM does
July 13th, 2010 at 11:44 pm
[..YouTube..] @MsEndure2end That’s great. You hold onto Jesus Christ who died for our sins and raised from the dead. THAT’S ALL YOU NEED. NOTHING ELSE. If you “add” more to it, it is called CULT.
Jesus Christ = All we need.
We don’t need Joseph Smith, book of mormons, whatever.
End of story.
July 14th, 2010 at 12:18 am
[..YouTube..] @MsEndure2end What a sick joke.You people are insane to believe this nonsense. Anyone can pretend to commune with spirits.I can pray until I believe in something I know not to be true; this doesn’t bestow upon it any basis in reality.Just as you have conjured an imaginary “Spirit” to confirm your foregone conclusions, others dream up “divine inspiration” to validate their own eccentric superstitions.A part of me sympathizes with you – another is appalled that you foist this garbage on your kids.
July 14th, 2010 at 12:49 am
[..YouTube..] @Sarah01181225 I do hold on to my Savior Jesus Christ because He sacrificed for me and for you as prophesied in the Bible and the Book of Mormon. Thanks to the prophets such as Joseph Smith and a list of others in the scriptures, we are blessed to have the knowledge that we are saved from our sins. I continue to worship Jesus Christ and can come to know Him by reading the sacred words in the Holy Bible and the Book of Mormon, both of which were truly revealed by Heavenly Father to prophets.
July 14th, 2010 at 12:51 am
[..YouTube..] @MsEndure2end Stick to the FIRST SENTENCE ONLY upto “In the Bible”.
I am telling you if you hold onto the book of mormons, you are NOT holding onto Jesus, you think Jesus is NOT enough for our salvation.
No salvation is given except the name Jesus Christ.
I am done in advising you.
July 14th, 2010 at 1:01 am
[..YouTube..] @Sarah01181225 Many thanks to SethAdamSmith for an inspired and educational video! I am confident in my faith that the Book of Mormon truly testifies of Jesus Christ, the Only Begotten Son of our Heavenly Father. I am so grateful for Joseph Smith who, by the power of God, brought forth the Book of Mormon as a second testament of Jesus Christ. I love Jesus with all my heart. Jesus is the only name given for our salvation and we come to know Him through both the Bible and the Book of Mormon.
July 14th, 2010 at 1:07 am
[..YouTube..] @MsEndure2end Yeah whatever
July 14th, 2010 at 1:08 am
[..YouTube..] Many thanks to SethAdamSmith for an inspired and educational video! I am confident in my faith that the Book of Mormon truly testifies of Jesus Christ, the Only Begotten Son of our Heavenly Father. I am so grateful for Joseph Smith who, by the power of God, brought forth the Book of Mormon as a second testament of Jesus Christ. I love Jesus with all my heart. Jesus is the only name given for our salvation and we come to know Him through both the Bible and the Book of Mormon.
July 14th, 2010 at 1:13 am
[..YouTube..] @Sarah01181225 One of my favorite excerpts is at 3:49: “Finally, after suffering persecution and revilement for 20 years after you finish the book, you must willingly give your own life for your testimony that the record is from God.” Joseph Smith would not have done that had it not been of God and for the truth. I am forever grateful for his martyrdom. I know that God is pleased by the Book of Mormon.
July 14th, 2010 at 12:07 pm
[..YouTube..] @1allforhim so in your world, it does NOT matter what the Bible says as long as it says BIBLE on the cover? Do you NOW see why I think your faith is a FRAUD?
July 14th, 2010 at 12:07 pm
[..YouTube..] In order to prepare for the fans and teams from 32 countries from around the world, Church members joined others in the community to clean up their country for the monthlong tournament. Games began on June 11.
July 14th, 2010 at 12:08 pm
[..YouTube..] “Not only was it fun to help clean up a small part of South Africa for the World Cup with a good group of friends, it was very satisfying to represent the Church in such a positive way,” said Sister Virginia Dolinar, a missionary serving in the Africa Southeast Area office. “They appreciated our help, and we all felt good.”
July 14th, 2010 at 3:21 pm
[..YouTube..] @omiolo how, when your faith is based on a book written by a crazy man that has no historical evidence
July 14th, 2010 at 6:37 pm
[..YouTube..] Why is this book so special?
It is full of anachronisms. It plagiarizes large portions of the Bible. It’s claimed facts cannot be substantiated by historical or archeological means. It contradicts the Bible.
The main tenants of the LDS are not found in this book though supposedly it is the fullness of the gospel.
Mr. Smith did not willingly give up his life for Mormonism. He was in jail because of an illegal act and he did not die willingly.
July 14th, 2010 at 8:21 pm
[..YouTube..] @MsEndure2end You said you know God is pleased by the Book of Mormon????
Well, it will be totally opposite. God will be very sad that you actually stick to the Book of Mormon instead of sticking to the gospel which is MORE THAN ENOUGH for our salvation. Why would you hold onto something OTHER THAN the Bible!!!!!!
Pretty sad…
July 15th, 2010 at 12:53 am
[..YouTube..] @Sarah01181225 I have complete faith that Heavenly Father approves and encourages everyone to read the Book of Mormon. I believe that God knows our hearts and we can know Him better by reading His Word, which includes, but is not limited to, both the Bible and the Book of Mormon. My faith is a result of prayer, study and sincere searching. God surely is powerful and loving enough to grant us continuing revelation. I would encourage you to read the Book of Mormon. It is very comforting.
July 15th, 2010 at 2:45 am
[..YouTube..] @MsEndure2end I might read the book of Mormon to see why Mormons are cult, just like I read Koran to understand other religions better.
July 15th, 2010 at 10:27 am
[..YouTube..] @1allforhim But we preach Christ crucified, unto the Jews a stumblingblock, and unto the Greeks foolishness;
July 15th, 2010 at 10:27 am
[..YouTube..] Through satellite support, leaders in other cities from Siberia to Ukraine were instructed, had their leadership questions answered and received spiritual strengthening as they heard the testimonies of the apostles.
The feeling of love from the members was evident in each meeting.
July 15th, 2010 at 8:36 pm
[..YouTube..] It is crystal clear to me that the anti-Mormon Derangement Syndrome truly causes brain atrophy and effects all forms of sane logic.
An actual education is completely worthless to anti-Mormons as they ignorantly gravitate towards anti-Mormon mills, Wikipedia and Google for their “PhDs” in Mormonism and then they come on LDS videos and act like so called “experts”.
But I honesty can’t blame anti-Mormons for being so desperate in their pathetic claims. After-all, they only have lies to work with.
July 16th, 2010 at 7:14 pm
[..YouTube..] I wonder if Mel Gibson is a Mormon since he hates blacks so much!! hehehehe
July 16th, 2010 at 7:26 pm
[..YouTube..] @DrPorterRockwell Clearly your the deluded one .
For starters you think your the strong man Joseph Smith body guard Porter Rockwell.
The psychosis is yours. You have traded your intellect for testiphony.
You don’t have to have a PhD to see the lies and distortions the mormons propagate. Any thinking rational human being would see that Joseph Smith was a total con man.
July 16th, 2010 at 7:59 pm
[..YouTube..] kramd1 easily proves my point.
I stand by my original statement and you can see on my profile why kramd1 (who doesn’t want you to see her own profile) obsessively comments on LDS videos.
July 16th, 2010 at 11:13 pm
[..YouTube..] @DrPorterRockwell Your point is every one who speaks against the mythical stories of mormondom are “truly brain atrophy” and not sane.
Whoever you are and your not Porter Rockwell who skins wolves, LOL
Your a very deluded juvenile who is struggling with mormon psychosis and testiphony. Since when are you the adjudicator on You tube. Whats your real name and address ? get real .
July 16th, 2010 at 11:26 pm
[..YouTube..] @kramd1
“whats your real name and address?” You took it to the creepy level!
July 16th, 2010 at 11:49 pm
[..YouTube..] @DrPorterRockwell what the hell are you talking about.
Youtube allows me to comment as you do . Why do you feel that I should have a real name and ID You certainly don’t. grrr
July 17th, 2010 at 12:17 am
[..YouTube..] @kramd1
“This channel is not available.” is what happens when you click on your profile.
I wasn’t talking about a real name or ID, genius and I know I am talking to a bag of bricks, but it is very creepy when you ask someone their real name and home address, phone # etc.. You anti-Mormons are not trustworthy so it is very creepy you would even ask.
July 17th, 2010 at 1:17 am
[..YouTube..] Sorry. Nothing said in this video is above and beyond merely human posibility (though dictating it all in 80 days is impressive, I’ll give him that). Lots of people have claimed to bring a new revelation to the world, and a number have lost their lives for it. That’s no proof of truth. As far as the four biblical verses, I looked all of them up, and not one can refer exclusively to the purported history of the Book of Mormon.
July 17th, 2010 at 1:48 am
[..YouTube..] @DrPorterRockwell ha ha , Now your saying you don’t want to tell your real name , why should I ???? Your the one making an issue of my profile on you tube. Once again not the real issue, a typical mormon characteristic of side stepping the questions. If your going to make comments like I skin antimormons and have imaginations of being a legendary murdering mormon strong man like Porter Rockwell I can hardly take you serious as any one would as you expose yourself as a total twit.
July 17th, 2010 at 11:11 am
[..YouTube..] @kramd1
Obviously, there is a major language barrier once again. I wasn’t asking for your real name. Anti-Mormons, the trolls of the internet, thank you for making me more dumb.
July 17th, 2010 at 7:17 pm
[..YouTube..] @DrPorterRockwell Obviously. Dr Porter Rockwell, who ever you are.
July 18th, 2010 at 12:45 pm
[..YouTube..] @kramd1
Ha! He fancies himself a “wolf-hunter”(lol) but runs with his tails between his legs from a real debate. Has he given you the ’source-citation’ run-around yet? This is where he demands citation for unspecified statements, then rejects as an “anti-Mormon” source, anything that doesn’t conform to his infantile fantasies. His crusade is a pathetic failure and his – and the Church’s – delusions of grandeur would be laughable if so many weren’t afflicted.
July 18th, 2010 at 7:12 pm
[..YouTube..] @LDS4Life71 “overwhelming” ? name ONE
July 18th, 2010 at 9:29 pm
[..YouTube..] Joseph Smith killed two men in a vain attempt to save his life; just before he attempted to jump out a window. Rumor also claims that Joseph was trying to use a freemason expression of distress in a last ditch effort to save his life. It really puts into question an earnest attempt to die for your beliefs when you’re not willing to die.
Joseph Smith was murdered because of his arrogance (obviously a narcissist), not for his fallible doctrine.
July 18th, 2010 at 10:06 pm
[..YouTube..] @kramd1 One what?
July 18th, 2010 at 10:30 pm
[..YouTube..] @LDS4Life71 The overwhelming evidence that you speak of. I think what you will find that your getting the burning bosom warm rush psychosis confused with scientific evidence.
July 19th, 2010 at 2:14 am
[..YouTube..] @DrRocksotheClown I have a strong testimony that the Bible and the Book of Mormon are both scripture, and both testify of Jesus Christ. Joseph Smith was a true prophet. I would be glad to answer your questions if I can. The existence of temples is recorded in the Old Testament. Prayer is a way of talking to God and it takes faith and an honest heart. The Nephites and Lamanites were all wiped out by war, as recorded in the Book of Mormon, as a result of not following the teachings of Christ.
July 19th, 2010 at 2:45 am
[..YouTube..] @DrRocksotheClown actually the Book of Mormon was written by MANY men. I can’t tell you where the Golden Plates are but I can tell you where you can get a copy of them.
July 19th, 2010 at 2:45 am
[..YouTube..] @DrRocksotheClown here’s a good question for ya. Why, if you do not believe in this, come to a page all about it? what good does it do anyone for you to bash other people’s beliefs? I have not done these things to you. please don’t do it to me.
July 19th, 2010 at 2:45 am
[..YouTube..] The images of missionaries traveling two-by-two, knocking on doors and offering tracts — or religious literature — have long been a global representation of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.
But the church’s missionary department is experimenting with its missionaries, using social networking to make contacts and create conversations with individuals who might be interested in the LDS faith.
July 19th, 2010 at 4:03 am
[..YouTube..] @LDSriniel This is an excellent point.
July 19th, 2010 at 4:04 am
[..YouTube..] @omiolo Good response for a honest truth seeker.
July 19th, 2010 at 5:30 am
[..YouTube..] @LDSriniel His coming here and bashing us, is witness to our conviction for what we stand for, and our beliefs. Unfortunately for DrRocksoftheClown hasn’t been truly born again nor has he entered at the straight gate which leads to life according to Matt.7.
July 19th, 2010 at 5:47 am
[..YouTube..] All we can be sure about the translation is that the language used is approved of by the Lord (D&C 17:6).
July 19th, 2010 at 8:15 am
[..YouTube..] @LDS4Life71 Was your Language approved of your “Lord”?
Luke 11:39 And the Lord said unto him, Now do ye Pharisees make clean the outside of the cup and the platter; but your inward part is full of ravening and wickedness.
July 19th, 2010 at 8:20 am
[..YouTube..] There were MANY Sorurces available for Joe to PLAGARIZE & assemble a Book of mormo
July 19th, 2010 at 8:22 am
[..YouTube..] @LDSriniel HOW Joe got ideas for the BoM
Lehi is from the Old Testament, Judges 15:9,14 and 19.
Nephi is from the King James Version of the Apocrypha, II Maccabees 1:36.
Enos is taken from Genesis 4:26.
Zenos was in use prior to the Book of Mormon as a person’s name. Zenos Riggs is listed in the 1873 Hanover, New Jersey census. Zenos Gurley, Sr., was born in 1801 at Bridgewater, New York, and later joined Mormonism. There is also Zenas in the New Testament, Titus 3:13.
Hey this is easy!
July 19th, 2010 at 8:47 am
[..YouTube..] Another security is what Wilson calls “community policing.” All participating missionaries are Facebook “friends” with each other and the mission president, meaning all their Facebook activity is easily accessible by the others.
July 19th, 2010 at 8:48 am
[..YouTube..] Members can use the missionaries’ blogs and Facebook pages to either forward to friends and acquaintances or merely direct them to those sites.
While the emphasis is for missionaries to develop local contacts for teaching opportunities, Internet conversations can go beyond the mission area. Missionaries themselves can’t cross mission boundaries, but their Internet efforts may extend much farther, with contacts then referred to other missions across the country or throughout the world.
July 19th, 2010 at 11:52 am
[..YouTube..] @MsEndure2end none of the people that do it seem to realize this..
July 19th, 2010 at 11:53 am
[..YouTube..] @LDS4Life71 i won’t judge him to see if he is who he should be. but i pity that he has nothing better to do than to attack others for knowing who they are.
July 19th, 2010 at 11:56 am
[..YouTube..] @bdplist i want you to hear something- a quote that comforts me whenever people (like yourself) attack me for having a different belief system. here it is:For 179 years this book has been examined and attacked, denied and deconstructed, targeted and torn apart like perhaps no other book in modern religious history—perhaps like no other book in any religious history. And still it stands. Failed theories about its origins have been born and parroted and have died—from Ethan Smith….
July 19th, 2010 at 11:57 am
[..YouTube..] … to Solomon Spaulding to deranged paranoid to cunning genius. None of these frankly pathetic answers for this book has ever withstood examination because there is no other answer than the one Joseph gave as its young unlearned translator. In this I stand with my own great-grandfather, who said simply enough, “No wicked man could write such a book as this; and no good man would write it, unless it were true and he were commanded of God to do so.
July 19th, 2010 at 5:54 pm
[..YouTube..] @MsEndure2end Then how come his prophecies didnt come true. A temple being built in Missouri in his time false. All nations will take part in the civil war false. Jesus would visit us in 1891 false. Look at Deut 13 1-4 , Deut 18 20 -22. God himself said we should kill him, but it also says we dont need to pay attention to him. What do you think we should do.
July 19th, 2010 at 7:41 pm
[..YouTube..] @MrBronbron Joseph Smith’s prophecies did come true according to my personal study. Deut 13:1-4 of course does not apply to Joseph Smith who had truth revealed to him by the one and only true God, and his resulting good works proved that he loved and served the one and only true God. Same with Deut. 18:20-22. Joseph Smith was commanded of God. Therefore, we would be wise to hear him. May I ask where you found the information about the Missouri temple, civil war and an 1891 visit by the Savior?
July 19th, 2010 at 7:49 pm
[..YouTube..] @LDSriniel The Book of Mormon is for everyone because it is a testament of Jesus Christ, as is the Bible. These people that attack and persecute are possibly searching for something better in their lives. As a Mormon, I feel confident and secure in the truth and I am so thankful for the martyrdom of Joseph Smith and his great obedience to the one and only true God. You are very kind to respond to these comments and share your testimony.
July 19th, 2010 at 9:13 pm
[..YouTube..] @LDSriniel It may still stand, but it doesnt’ stand on the truth. It is justly attacked.
July 19th, 2010 at 9:45 pm
[..YouTube..] @MsEndure2end History of the Church, Vol. 2, pp. 180-182,Doctrines and Covenants 84:2-5,31, Doctrine and Covenants 87:1-3. That message applies to all prophets MsEndure2end. How do I know that Moses was a prophet, he complies with these mandates, how do I know that Jesus was a prophet, he complies with these mandates, how do i know Muhammad wasn’t a prophet he went against scripture. How do i know Joseph Smith wasnt a prophet he DEFIANTLY went against scripture with his wifes, and teachings.
July 19th, 2010 at 9:57 pm
[..YouTube..] @MsEndure2end some of his wives were teenagers, some of his wives were already married, some of his wives were sisters, even people in Solomons time would have thought this disgusting. Look at the True definition of adultery Leviticus 20:10, Proverbs 6:32, Hosea 4:14 Matthew 5:32. Why would your “prophet” do such sinful things. Again with my last comment,it only takes one false prophecy and your a false prophet not from God.
July 19th, 2010 at 10:02 pm
[..YouTube..] @MsEndure2end
“Joseph Smith’s prophecies did come true according to my personal study.”
You need to study more closely.
Failed prophecies include:
Saints to gather to Independence, Mo. and build Temple
Army to redeem Zion (Independence, MO)
Apostle Patten to go on mission in Spring 1839
US Government must redress wrongs or be destroyed
July 19th, 2010 at 10:04 pm
[..YouTube..] @LDSriniel
“… to Solomon Spaulding to deranged paranoid to cunning genius. None of these frankly pathetic answers for this book has ever withstood examination because there is no other answer than the one Joseph gave as its young unlearned translator.”
Do you plagiarize General Conference speeches often?……those are Holland’s words from his 2009 address.
July 20th, 2010 at 4:08 pm
[..YouTube..] @Dustiniusprimus I am mormon, and I don’t paint myself as the innocent victim of mean-spirited criticism. I simply see it as your opinion and my opinion.
July 20th, 2010 at 4:13 pm
[..YouTube..] @hammer7629 I am sorry you could not find the first part. Here it is, I have re-created most of it (but there is not enough space for all of it. ) “i want you to hear something- a quote that comforts me whenever people (like yourself) attack me for having a different belief system. here it is:” (and this continues on with the quote you accused me of plagiarizing). I am sorry the only importance you saw in all that is a lack of quotations. and i’m sorry you thought i plagiarized it.
July 20th, 2010 at 4:48 pm
[..YouTube..] @LDS4Life71 Matthew 12:36 But I say unto you, That every idle word that men shall speak, they shall give account thereof in the day of judgment.
How much more then for your FILTHY WORDS?
July 20th, 2010 at 4:50 pm
[..YouTube..] @LDSriniel Not interested in opinions….
I am interested in Truth it can be found in the Holy Bible JN 17:17 Thy word IS truth
July 20th, 2010 at 5:16 pm
[..YouTube..] @MrBronbron
“Doctrines and covenants 84 2-5.31 says it will be completed by the end of his generation. which died”
Before anyone offers excuses for the failed prophecy, LDS leaders defined generation in General Conference Example:
Orson Pratt on 11-9-71, he quoted D&C 84:1-5 and declared “all the people that were living thirty-nine years ago have not passed away; but before they do pass away this will be fulfilled (J. of D. Vol. 14, p. 275)
July 20th, 2010 at 7:04 pm
[..YouTube..] @hammer7629 thank you hammer
July 20th, 2010 at 7:59 pm
[..YouTube..] @LDSriniel
“people (like yourself) attack me for having a different belief system.”
Stop with the whiny victim routine…..I never attacked you for having a different belief system.
July 20th, 2010 at 8:08 pm
[..YouTube..] @MrBronbron @Dustiniusprimus
Anti-Mormons, hello you are way off track here!
You should be finding fault with and lying about the LDS faith, not each other’s posts. You both came here for that very “honorable” and “loving” purpose! Do not let the dreaded and very contagious anti-Mormon Derangement Syndrome get the best of you two!
ROFL.. anti-Mormons like ravenous dogs turning on each other. You anti-Mormons might not be the brightest, but are definitely entertaining!
July 20th, 2010 at 8:09 pm
[..YouTube..] @hammer7629 you asked for what part 1 was. so i gave it to you. it was not directed towards you. but in any case, you may not think it, but i believe name calling is attacking.
July 20th, 2010 at 8:10 pm
[..YouTube..] @bdplist let me rephrase. opinion about what truth is and what god’s word is. i do not want to fight you. I just wanted to state that.
July 20th, 2010 at 8:24 pm
[..YouTube..] @DrPorterRockwell O why DOCTOR i am not as much against mormons as i am against mormonism. dust might hate us but i just want you to study your beliefs more. Please take a look at my comments and answer them. Every person must challenge his own faith, so that they may grow in it.
July 20th, 2010 at 8:27 pm
[..YouTube..] @bdplist
“Hey this is easy!”
It sure is…add this to the list. Mormons love to hold up King Benjamin’s speech, but a closer look reveals it’s very similar to a Methodist camp meeting that was held one mile from Palmyra, New York, on 6/7/26.
Families came from all parts of the 100-mile conference district and pitched their tents facing the raised “stand” where the preachers were seated, including one named Benjamin G. Paddock. . .
Con’td
July 20th, 2010 at 8:29 pm
[..YouTube..] This large crowd heard the “valedictory” or farewell speech of their beloved “Bishop M’kendree [who] made his appearance among us for the last time.” . . . In his emaciated and “feeble” condition, he spoke of his love for the people and then delivered a powerful message that covered “the whole process of personal salvation.” Tremendous unity prevailed among the crowd, and “nearly every unconverted person on the ground” committed oneself to Christ. . . .
Source: Grant Palmer
July 20th, 2010 at 8:35 pm
[..YouTube..] @MrBronbron
Please, your self delusion is nauseating, for as a typical anti-Mormon you imagine yourself as an “expert” in our doctrines and history, but I do give you credit for admitting that you are an anti-Mormon.
Simple question. Yes, or no, are you an expert in LDS doctrine and history? No dancing around, just a simple yes or no.
July 20th, 2010 at 8:40 pm
[..YouTube..] @MrBronbron
The Painesville Telegraph (close to Kirkland) printed a story from the New York Courier and Enquirer entitled “The Crisis.” The article spoke of the “probabilities of dismemberment” stemming from discontent in South Carolina and Georgia over states rights…..The story ran FOUR DAYS BEFORE Smith’s so called prophecy. There’s the source. Smith guessed and most of his guesses in the “prophecy” are simply wrong.
July 20th, 2010 at 8:50 pm
[..YouTube..] @DrPorterRockwell i know enough to know your prophets a con artists. As for the true answer its a question of relativity. To whom do I compare it to you, i don’t know i know enough id say not an expert though. To hammer, no he knows a LOT about LDS history, to omilio, i have a doctorate in church history and a doctorate in scripturalogy
July 20th, 2010 at 9:03 pm
[..YouTube..] @MrBronbron
So elusive you ant-Mormons are.
You clearly are no expert which I am glad you admitted with stating “id say not an expert though”.
Then as this non-expert that you are, you really think (in your pathetic self delusion) it is wise to lecture us (“i just want you to study your beliefs more”) who are EXPERTS?
Yes, or no? Not looking for a long drawn answer to this yes or no question.
July 20th, 2010 at 9:23 pm
[..YouTube..] @MrBronbron
Heresy was a capital crime during the Middle Ages, so of course most of the scientists were nominally Catholic – what dreadful fate may have befallen them if they hadn’t been?
Of course I will concede that scientists have been proven wrong at times – by other scientists. Never has a scientific theory fallen due to some “revelation” from “God” or the scribblings of ancient charlatans claiming divine inspiration….
July 20th, 2010 at 9:31 pm
[..YouTube..] @Dustiniusprimus umm primus Copernicus was alive during the reformation, he could have easily switched religions. Galileo would have been in a far easier situation. Truth of the matter is the thing you worship, science keeps changing for you. While I have faith in my religion, a religion that has withstood 2 millennium of time. Its been the largest religion the world has ever seen.
July 20th, 2010 at 9:33 pm
[..YouTube..] @MrBronbron
… So what if Galileo was mentored by Copernicus? The RCC still saw fit to threaten him with torture if he refused to disavow his theories and when he acquiesced to their demands, they nonetheless condemned him to life-imprisonment.
You are the worst kind of hypocrite, dishing out criticism of the LDS Church while your own shelters and sanctions child-rapists.
July 20th, 2010 at 9:43 pm
[..YouTube..] @LDSriniel
Weren’t you recently sniveling that your beliefs were being attacked?
For my part, I think such nonsensical b.s. should be subjected to rational criticism, lest another Joseph Smith get the impression that he can perpetrate a similar fraud without comment from society at large. Yes, in order to deter the proliferation of superstition and wish-thinking, would-be sectarian opportunists should know that extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.
July 20th, 2010 at 9:50 pm
[..YouTube..] @Dustiniusprimus I really don’t want to argue with you. It isn’t kind or Christ-like. So I’m going to part ways with you with the best wishes to you.
July 20th, 2010 at 10:06 pm
[..YouTube..] @DrPorterRockwell I disagree, those who use the term “anti-Mormon” so often use it as a catch-all for anyone who is critical of the Church even when the critical information is truthful
For example, I’ve been called a “liberal faggot” and an “anti-Mormon” simply for asking if the doctrine of denying blacks the priesthood was racist or wrong
If I tell the truth and that truth is unflattering to the LDS Church, that does not make me an anti-Mormon
I’m Justa: Pro-truth Latter-day Saint
July 20th, 2010 at 10:13 pm
[..YouTube..] @DrPorterRockwell
You’re both pious fools, neither of you better or worse than the other and neither of you wielding an argument that holds any water. What have I to worry about in challenging both of your respective delusions?
“Anti-Mormons”, “ravenous dogs”…blah, blah, blah. I tire of your meaningless, irrelevant chatter.
July 20th, 2010 at 10:35 pm
[..YouTube..] @LDSriniel
I don’t blame you. Mormonism isn’t an easy position to defend and I don’t envy the predicament of those who were born into die-hard LDS families. Apostasy is a grave offense in the Church and I know the trials facing those who walk away with regard to their loved-ones’ rejection and antipathy.
Still, the Church is blatantly sexist toward women, deeming them unfit for the priesthood and discouraging them from going on missions. As a woman, this should be of great concern to you.
July 21st, 2010 at 7:21 am
[..YouTube..] Cumorah was supposed to be the location where Smith found the golden plates.
Joseph Smith created the name “Cumorah” through his study of the treasure hunting stories of Capt. W. Kidd. Capt. Kidd was said to have buried treasure in the Comoros islands, Smith used the name of the islands & applied it to the hill where he found buried treasure & golden plates. Moroni is the name of the capital city!
We thank thee 0 god for a GREAT PLAGARIZER!
July 21st, 2010 at 12:31 pm
[..YouTube..] @bdplist
FOUR LETTERS ARE THE SAME. How about just taking 1 letter from Zeus and replacing it with a J. pronounced (Heay-Zeus)
July 21st, 2010 at 12:40 pm
[..YouTube..] @tomcornhole Great!, I’ve always liked the Ninja Turtles.
July 21st, 2010 at 12:42 pm
[..YouTube..] @bdplist How many Greek gods in Olympus? Same number of apostles.
July 21st, 2010 at 12:44 pm
[..YouTube..] @bdplist Buddy, Plagiarize means to copy without taking credit. The Book of Mormon credits Isiah when quoted.
July 21st, 2010 at 12:47 pm
[..YouTube..] Then be more careful with the words you choose.
July 21st, 2010 at 12:57 pm
[..YouTube..] Time to grab the “magic undies” all you mormon whack jobs. This is obviously a con by an obvious racist, mysogynous, con artisit, created to bilk fools out of their money. Wake up, all religion is false. These things they claim are unknowable. The real world is far more interesting than your fairy tales and fiction of gods and magic. Grow up and stop being blinded by dogma and hate. Live your life in a manner as to not harm others and make the only life we KNOW we have tolerable.
July 21st, 2010 at 1:13 pm
[..YouTube..] @Bureyeanne What a coincidence that joe used at least 141 everyday common names found in the Bible such as Lemuel, Pathros, Pekah, Rama, & Shinar
July 21st, 2010 at 2:52 pm
[..YouTube..] @DrPorterRockwell Sad that there never seems to be any substance behind your arguments. You say I lied but you can’t point out where. Silly, silly DPR!
All you can do is focus on the trivial, such as wondering if I am LDS or not – pointless I say.
So, was the LDS doctrine against black people holding the priesthood wrong? and was it racist?
I’m Justa: Pro-truth Latter-day Saint
July 21st, 2010 at 2:57 pm
[..YouTube..] @Dustiniusprimus It seems you are pretty busy with attacking ppl. What im saying is the church doesnt condemn science, the only mention you have of us doing so was already thought by a catholic priest years earlier. Governments and religions were attacking the church. When a priest came along and told galileo he went against scripture, and when he didnt admit it was a THEORY, he was under house arrest for 4 years and then died later of fever and heart trouble.
July 21st, 2010 at 3:13 pm
[..YouTube..] @Dustiniusprimus Yes some priests have raped children.It is very bad,but the highest rate possible is 2.5% of priests.Exposed priests gone to trial are only .12%. Episcopal was convicted of molesting a 14-year-old boy,a Baptist pastor from S.C. was starting a 60 year prison center for molesting 23 children,another Baptist pastor was dismissed from his church in upstate New York over allegations,a pastor GA, was found guilty of 25.My friend was raped by her elders in the JWs. Its in every group
July 21st, 2010 at 3:24 pm
[..YouTube..] @MrBronbron
In no defense of the anti-Mormon Dustiniusprimus a.k.a. T.O.G., how are you any different than him?
You are going to whine when someone finds fault with your beliefs? Yet you obsessively comment on LDS videos and find fault with ours while acting as an “expert”?
You both are losing focus here, get back on track and continue finding fault with the LDS’s beliefs! We want to hear both of your “expertise” on LDS theology!
July 21st, 2010 at 3:27 pm
[..YouTube..] @MrBronbron
As a typical anti-Mormon, demands questions be answered, but will not answer a simple yes or no question.
July 21st, 2010 at 3:38 pm
[..YouTube..] @DrPorterRockwell are you going to heaven simple yes or no question
July 21st, 2010 at 3:43 pm
[..YouTube..] @DrPorterRockwell ask me a question about my beliefs. Or point out the great apostasy. Mormons havent yet pointed out where this great grand ol apostasy occured, please TELL ME. As for for your mormon theology no im not an expert because it keeps on changing
July 21st, 2010 at 3:43 pm
[..YouTube..] @MrBronbron
What part of “As a typical anti-Mormon, demands questions be answered, but will not answer a simple yes or no question” did you not understand?
Go back and answer my yes or no question. Don’t be afraid or shy and no need to dance around the question.
July 21st, 2010 at 3:45 pm
[..YouTube..] @MrBronbron
That is not what I asked you. Go back to my simple yes or no question. A question ends with this symbol ?.
July 21st, 2010 at 4:30 pm
[..YouTube..] @MrBronbron
The RCC has supported science only insofar as it jives with the Church’s biblical outlook. This is apparent when you acknowledge that Galileo was confined for being, “vehemently suspect of heresy” and Copernicus’ heliocentric theory declared, “false and contrary to Scripture”.
Of course the percentage of tried and convicted priests is small – high-ranking bishops have seen to it that offending clergy are sheltered from prosecution by whisking them away to new, unsuspecting parishes.
July 21st, 2010 at 6:56 pm
[..YouTube..] @Dustiniusprimus Therefore with the utmost earnestness I entreat you, most learned sir, unless I inconvenience you, to communicate this discovery of yours to scholars, and at the earliest possible moment to send me your writings on the sphere of the universe together with the tables and whatever else you have that is relevant to this subject – Cardinal of Capua. He is telling him TO SHARE HIS INFORMATION WITH OTHER SCHOLARS. How is his theory false and contrary to scripture
July 21st, 2010 at 7:01 pm
[..YouTube..] @Dustiniusprimus Joshua 10:13 “So the sun STOOD STILL in the midst of heaven”
meaning it doesnt rotate, how did they know that back then? Isaiah 40:22 ” Circle of the Earth” how did the writer know the earth was circular? Sciences views arent contrary to scripture, they are the same.
July 21st, 2010 at 7:31 pm
[..YouTube..] @KINGSHITTHROAT Amen! … I mean, right on!
I’m Justa: Pro-truth Latter-day Saint
July 21st, 2010 at 7:35 pm
[..YouTube..] @MrBronbron
Give me a break. The sun, in reality, does rotate and in any event, you know that wasn’t the context intended by the writer of Joshua. Anyone with an elementary knowledge of the Bible knows that in this instance, the sun was delayed from setting in order to aid the Israelites in battle. In hindsight we now know that what this would mean – assuming it were true – is that the earth – not the sun – ceased to rotate.
July 21st, 2010 at 7:47 pm
[..YouTube..] @MrBronbron
“How is his theory false and contrary to Scripture?”
Perhaps because it denied the centrality of earth and humanity in God’s grand design. I don’t know. It was your Church who made this determination, so you may wish to address this question to a theologian.
Can you conceive of no untoward motives behind this Cardinal’s curiosity about Copernicus’ ideas? It’s noteworthy that he delayed publication of his theories for fear of their reception.
July 21st, 2010 at 9:03 pm
[..YouTube..] @DrPorterRockwell why yes dr porter rockwell i believe thats called a question mark
July 21st, 2010 at 9:10 pm
[..YouTube..] @Dustiniusprimus not against copernicus get your facts straight
July 22nd, 2010 at 2:22 pm
[..YouTube..] Show me one single honest critic of the LDS Church. Just one!
Just one single person that is capable of having an original thought, not the same old regurgitation with the same old anti-Mormon tactics from the same anti-Mormon mills. Someone that has an actual education and is very secure in their own beliefs. Just one! Anyone?
If there is such a person which I hope and pray there is, I will welcome him/her with open arms and have them over for a BBQ and consider them a true friend.
July 22nd, 2010 at 2:37 pm
[..YouTube..] @DrPorterRockwell
Odd that you are so concerned with education when your idol, Porter Rockwell, was a half-literate brute with little to speak of. Joseph Smith wasn’t exactly ‘learned’ either but that doesn’t stop you from swallowing his mythology – hook, line and sinker. Why the double-standard?
It’s not incumbent on us to keep churning out new, “original” criticisms when you can’t even address those already raised. You flatter yourself to think anyone would want your friendship.
July 22nd, 2010 at 2:55 pm
[..YouTube..] @DrPorterRockwell
When confronted about their racist past,Mormons offer no apology, no admission of error – they merely pass the buck to “God”,attributing their own human prejudices to an hypothetical deity who absolves them of all responsibility for their bigotry.Likewise with polygamy and the stubborn insistence that women are unworthy of the priesthood or Presidency.This is before we even begin scrutinizing the truth or fiction of the Bom and its many contradictions of available evidence.
July 22nd, 2010 at 2:58 pm
[..YouTube..] @Dustiniusprimus
Ouch! The education part struck a nerve in the self proclaimed “expert” in LDS doctrine and “expert” in all scientific fields including the well anticipated lectures on the “theory of gravity”. Can’t wait for those, right TOG?
And an honest critic would love a BBQ, who would pass that up? Could you also let me know where an honest critic is TOG? Well?
July 22nd, 2010 at 3:03 pm
[..YouTube..] @Dustiniusprimus
Thank goodness the “oppressed” have TOG championing their plight! ROFL!
July 22nd, 2010 at 3:04 pm
[..YouTube..] @Dustiniusprimus
No need for an apology for there was no racist past. I know you can’t prove it otherwise as shown being incapable of providing an “actual source”.
Women do have the priesthood and are in the Presidency. TOG, your “expertise” in the LDS faith is astounding. Can you share more with us?
July 22nd, 2010 at 3:36 pm
[..YouTube..] @Dustiniusprimus
TOG, simple question that you will avoid.
Are you claiming to be that honest critic of the Church? Yes or no? Not a long, irrelevant answer, just a yes or no, which hopefully you can handle this simple question.
July 22nd, 2010 at 5:18 pm
[..YouTube..] @DrPorterRockwell
Yes, I am an honest critic and I’ve challenged you numerous times to demonstrate otherwise but, alas, you have opted instead to run rhetorical circles like a dog chasing its tail. You now, in a shocking display of outright dishonesty, deny the racist history and continuing misogyny of the Church, though a viewing of Gordon Hinckley’s 1996 interview with Mike Wallace reveals both to be facts. I see you are not above bald-faced lies – so much for Mormon morality.
July 22nd, 2010 at 5:58 pm
[..YouTube..] @DrPorterRockwell
Good to see you back online. How did your Teenage Danite Club meeting go? lol
July 22nd, 2010 at 6:02 pm
[..YouTube..] @Bureyeanne
“Ethan Smith’s book has been reviewed by scores of independent experts of literature to have virtually no connection to the Book of Mormon.”
Scores of independent experts?….then it should be no problem for you to list 6 or 7 of these experts.
July 22nd, 2010 at 6:39 pm
[..YouTube..] @Dustiniusprimus
I’ll post a few of the lies that you have been spewing on LDS videos. Not one was backed with any source. Hence, why I’ve been saying over and over, where are the actual sources TOG?
Your response before: “I could go back and cite page and volume-numbers for every passage I’ve referenced but such would be a trifling chore and exercise in futility, unworthy of my time and energy for the likes of you”.
You have never backed you lies so don’t pretend you are an “honest critic”
July 22nd, 2010 at 6:41 pm
[..YouTube..] Dustiniusprimus’s own “honest” words exposes who he really is. Here are a few examples of this “honorable and “honest” critic.
“My frequent entreaties to God that he reveal himself in some sort of a sign, that I may have a basis for belief were met with utter silence / The Holy Ghost is a flake! Apparently he’s got other, more important prayers to answer. Son of a bitch / Really is stupefying that anyone could buy into such an obvious load of horses@#t / you’d rather be spoon-fed bulls@#t.”
July 22nd, 2010 at 6:44 pm
[..YouTube..] Dustiniusprimus’s hypocrisy continues.
“At least I’m addressing your points without calling you names / They’d rather sling insults and stroke each other’s c@#ks / Mormons are sniveling babies / This fat-cat is a self-serving, narcissistic fraud / Some weird mother f****rs on here. / I relish the sight of you two clowns making fools of yourselves in public / warn them explicitly of the scorn and ridicule with which they will be received by the general population.”
July 22nd, 2010 at 6:46 pm
[..YouTube..] Dustiniusprimus can’t make up his mind why he is here.
“Okay, I’m anti-Mormon, that’s obvious. / I criticize because of my strongly-held belief that faith is fascism / Oh yes, I’m gay, of course. Did the Holy Ghost inform you of this?”
His hypocritical “expertise” on LDS Theology:
“What makes you think a non-Mormon couldn’t know as much about your doctrines and history as you do? / With regard to my education,I hadn’t stated one. / where have I called myself an expert?”
July 22nd, 2010 at 6:51 pm
[..YouTube..] I don’t even have to make an argument against your self delusion that you are an “honest critic”.
Your own words are all that are needed.
But I will still wait for those sources TOG, and I will really look forward to your lectures on the “theory of gravity”. And then your lectures on LDS Theology. Can’t wait as the “expert” that you are in every subject known to mankind! ROFL!
July 22nd, 2010 at 8:27 pm
[..YouTube..] @DrPorterRockwell
I will address each of your 4 previous comments in the order they were received, beginning with the earliest….
July 22nd, 2010 at 8:40 pm
[..YouTube..] @DrPorterRockwell
#1. To my recollection, all of my quotes dealing especially with Mormonism have come either from the BoM, D&C or JoD, with the verse number in each case provided. No, I don’t feel obligated to go back and cite for every quote something as trivial as page numbers until you disclose which of my scripture-attributions you contest. Quid pro quo.
July 22nd, 2010 at 8:57 pm
[..YouTube..] @DrPorterRockwell
#2. This comment was part-genuine account of my “honest” attempts as a youth to make contact with “God”, part-satirical commentary on the total futility of prayer, and part-expression of consternation at the gullibility of Mormons. Nothing contained herein necessitates attribution since it represents, obviously, my own opinion and sense of humor. That you don’t share these in common does not make me dishonest. It merely means that you disagree.
July 22nd, 2010 at 8:57 pm
[..YouTube..] @Dustiniusprimus
Of course.
We wouldn’t expect anything less from a lying coward who feels he isn’t “obligated” and that it is too “trivial” to back his lying claims.
I will make it easier for you. Can you at least give us the anti-Mormon website where you got the lying quotes from? ROFL
July 22nd, 2010 at 9:00 pm
[..YouTube..] @Dustiniusprimus
No one cares about your sad stories ROFL.
We are still waiting for one single source to back your lies up. Just one?
If you feel you stand behind the truth with the quotes, then why are you so afraid to back them up? You can’t even give us the anti-Mormon website?
July 22nd, 2010 at 9:29 pm
[..YouTube..] @DrPorterRockwell
#3. Up to that point, I hadn’t called you names but it is a peculiar flaw in my temperament that eventually I cannot help but to respond in kind to those who would insult me. I acknowledge my imperfection in this regard.
That said, I stand by my subsequent statements. I think ridicule and distrust should serve as a deterrent to those who would proselytize silly superstitions that obscure reality.
July 22nd, 2010 at 9:42 pm
[..YouTube..] @Dustiniusprimus
Can’t stop lying can you?
Most of those quotes from your childish language were before we confronted you with your lies. The lies which of course have no sources.
You were throwing out your pathetic language before we came along. Yet, you state you “cannot help in kind to those who would insult me”? Who was insulting you? With you, lying is like dominoes.
“Ridicule” is reserved for those who act as “experts”, but cannot back their lies. Sound intimately familiar?
July 22nd, 2010 at 9:45 pm
[..YouTube..] @DrPorterRockwell
#4. Yes, I am against Mormonism and “faith” in general. It is obvious and I don’t deny it. I’m not actually gay, but if you are determined that I am, so be it. It’s immaterial. Explain to me why a non-Mormon through research and study could not be just as well-informed as a “Saint” on LDS doctrines and history. Is it not a matter of public record and if not, why not? I won’t engage in a pissing-contest with you over whose education is greater. That too is immaterial.
July 22nd, 2010 at 9:59 pm
[..YouTube..] @Dustiniusprim
Education is very relevant. For with an actual education & in the real world, you back up your claims with actual sources. I know this a foreign concept to you.
You received a “PhD” from anti-Mormon mills from “research” and “study”. Also another reason why an actual education is relevant for you realize anti-Mormon mills are not legitimate sources.
You fail at understanding LDS Theology because you believe it is all “public record”. Another example of education being relevant.
July 22nd, 2010 at 10:01 pm
[..YouTube..] It isn’t public record that women have the priesthood and are in Presidencies, yet you lie about it.
We understand you have no education, it is painfully obvious. It is also obvious you are no “expert”, yet you spew lies expecting people to believe your “expertise” instead of giving actual sources.
You are not an honest critic. You aren’t even a critic. You are just a miserable atheist who is bitter at the world. That’s all.
July 23rd, 2010 at 8:20 am
[..YouTube..] Since LDS have NO FACTS (but they do have really good ART from the Churches “Art Missionaries” to stimulate their VIVID IMAGINATIONS) they like to focus on personalities & insults
July 23rd, 2010 at 8:24 am
[..YouTube..] “Is this all sober history inspired written and true, representing things that actually happened? Or is it a wonder-tale of an immature mind, unconscious of what a test he is laying on human credulity when asking men to accept his narrative as solemn history?”
Roberts – Studies of the Book of Mormon, 283.
July 23rd, 2010 at 8:28 am
[..YouTube..] … was Joseph Smith possessed of a sufficiently VIVID and creative IMAGINATION as to produce such a work as the Book of Mormon from such materials as have been indicated in the preceding chapters … That such power of IMAGINATION would have to be of a high order is conceded; that Joseph Smith possessed such a gift of mind there can be NO QUESTION
B H Roberts – Studies, p. 243
July 23rd, 2010 at 9:56 am
[..YouTube..] @LDS4Life71 So Cortez saw some structures? Are they still there? Has anybody gone to the trouble to go there and study these finds. At what era was these well disciplined armies in the Americas? Why haven’t we found any steal artifacts from some of these great battles.
July 23rd, 2010 at 12:43 pm
[..YouTube..] @ptango101 The smelted iron ore, and the knowledge of it was killed off early in the book of Mormon. They reverted back to tools of wood and stone. Also Cortez remarked the Maya in the 1500’s that “they had many assorted weapons.”
July 23rd, 2010 at 1:31 pm
[..YouTube..] testing
July 23rd, 2010 at 2:27 pm
[..YouTube..] @Dustiniusprimus “… rhetorical circles like a dog chasing its tail.” That is a perfect way of summerizing DPR’s tactics
It’s supposed to be “every member a missionary” but DPR’s obvious attempts at deflection and redirection are evidence that the LDS Church is false
He is incapable of even answering a simple question like: Was the doctrine of denying black people the priesthood wrong? And instead, resorts to personal attacks & thus loses the debate
I’m Justa: Pro-truth Latter-day Saint
July 23rd, 2010 at 3:38 pm
[..YouTube..] @justamusta
It won’t let me post my reply.
July 23rd, 2010 at 3:38 pm
[..YouTube..] Joseph Smith was called a prophet
Dumb dumb dumb dumb dumb
He started the Mormon religion
Dumb dumb dumb dumb dumb.
Dumb dumb dumb dumb dumb
Joseph Smith was called a prophet-
Dumb dumb dumb dumb dumb
Many people believed Joseph
Dumb dumb dumb dumb dumb
And that night he-ee saw an angel
Dumb dumb dumb dumb dumb
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July 23rd, 2010 at 3:46 pm
[..YouTube..] @justamusta
“Error, try again”, is what I get when I try to reply to the Doc or post as a general comment. Oddly enough, it’s permitting me to reply to your post so I will address DrPorterRockwell vicariously…
July 23rd, 2010 at 3:57 pm
[..YouTube..] @DrPorterRockwell
July 23rd, 2010 at 4:05 pm
[..YouTube..] Why can’t I post?
July 23rd, 2010 at 4:38 pm
[..YouTube..] WTF
July 23rd, 2010 at 4:59 pm
[..YouTube..] @Dustiniusprimus God does not like your hateful anti-Mormon ways, thus he has caused your tounge to be tied and your fingers to be fat on your keyboard.
You are silenced until you can see that Mormonism is way cool even if it is a cult and a hoax
I’m Justa: Pro-truth Latter-day Saint
July 23rd, 2010 at 5:21 pm
[..YouTube..] WHAT ABOUT ALL THE THINGS THAT DON’T ADD UP SUCH AS… DNA, GOLD AND SILVER COINS, WHEAT & BARLEY, HORSES, ELEPHANTS, CAMELS, STEEL SWORDS AND ARROW TIPS???? WHEN AMERICA WAS RE-DISCOVERED BY EUROPEANS THE NATIVES WERE STILL USING STONE ARROW HEADS!!! ALSO THERE WAS A BOOK PUBLISHED 20 YEARS EARLIER TITLED “VIEWS OF THE HEBREW’S” WITH THE SAME OUTLINE AND STORIES OF THE B OF M AND JOE SMITH KNEW THE AUTHOR. WILL YOU PLEASE RESPOND TO THIS?
July 23rd, 2010 at 6:16 pm
[..YouTube..] @mattmalachowski almost all of these issues have been properly addressed by archeologists, scientists, and historians. For you to continue repeating these ANTImormon talking points is to show that you have been ABSENT from the world of research for the last 20 years. Please learn to think for yourself.
July 23rd, 2010 at 6:17 pm
[..YouTube..] “We moved often as my dad’s career in the Minnesota Forest Service advanced. There was no church to attend and rarely any others of Mother’s faith around. That changed in 1965 when we moved to Brainerd, Minn. I was 16, and we were 15 miles from the nearest congregation,” Elder Carlson said. “I joined the church at 18.”
Many years later, his own father surprised him and asked his son to baptize him.
July 23rd, 2010 at 6:17 pm
[..YouTube..] “I baptized my dad on Tuesday; he was confirmed a church member on the next day. He was quickly ordained as a high priest in the Melchizedek Priesthood and called to serve in the leadership of his local congregation. He was ready,” Elder Carlson said.
But Elder Carlson said that his own faith was not that solid.
July 23rd, 2010 at 11:20 pm
[..YouTube..] Thank you for your responce. However the Bof M is a fictional story. I only asked you for some evidence and you said I was Anti-mormon. FYI I was LDS for 33 years! I taught early morning seminary and I was also first counselor in the bishopric. I was also a worthy temple worker and I was reading the King James Bible when I came upon the words of Jesus that read “don’t sware an oath to God, if you do it is evil”. Jesus is far more crediable than Joe Smith! God or man? As for me and my house…
July 24th, 2010 at 2:57 am
[..YouTube..] @LDS4Life71 This still seems a bit dodgy to me. Metallurgical skills don’t just get forgotten. This is one of the advances that facilitates progress. Hense the various ages associated with stone, copper and iron for example. Essentially you are saying they went from using steel to using stone. When has that ever happened in any society. I think you need a little more than stories, supposed sitings by a 500 year old account and innuendo?
July 24th, 2010 at 9:03 am
[..YouTube..] @justamusta It was Joe who had his tongue bound by an Evil Spirit of dumbness in the “sacred grove” Joe was knocked flat on his back & totally overcome & siezed upon by a power, as per his own words.
Sounds like Devil Possession to me!
July 24th, 2010 at 9:44 am
[..YouTube..] @LDS4Life71
Dont be ignorant!
Iron ore extraction creates BIG HOLES in the ground, production requires large amounts of Chemical Reducers & Fluxes and huge amounts of water not to mention some sort of fuel (a whole new set of issues), the entire process results in enormous amounts of waste byproduct. slag heaps sit on the surface like a sore thumb. structures so large they can be seen from space. see Slag Formation at Tell Hammeh
FACTS are stubborn things mormonism is much more pliable!
July 24th, 2010 at 10:49 am
[..YouTube..] @bdplist
“Sounds like Devil Possession to me!”
Well, he did say….”When they can get rid of me, the devil will also go.”
Hmmm….. a confession?
July 24th, 2010 at 12:14 pm
[..YouTube..] @bdplist Don’t be ignorant? One might ask you the same thing, idiot, of you.
July 24th, 2010 at 12:15 pm
[..YouTube..] @ptango101 I didn’t say they were forgotten, but they were killed off.
July 24th, 2010 at 12:16 pm
[..YouTube..] @ptango101 it is totally possible the metallurgists were killed off by war. Don’t just sit there like a dunce in denial.
July 24th, 2010 at 6:26 pm
[..YouTube..] @LDS4Life71 OK but where are all the mines?
How about all the slag heaps?
The BoM is 19th century fiction & as such it needs things such as the churches “ART MISSIONARIES” to paint pretty pictures of the fictional characters in order to aid the imagination of the devotee, especially in cases where they might not be as vivid an imagination as joe had.
July 24th, 2010 at 7:35 pm
[..YouTube..] @LDS4Life71 Wow that’s rich. you say I’m the one in denial when it’s you who believes all these things happened in America a few thousand years ago but there is no evidence, both archeological and anthropological, that they did. Where are the pieces of steal that archeologists should be finding all over the place. Smith could say the things he did because they were ignorant times, whats your excuse?
July 24th, 2010 at 10:32 pm
[..YouTube..] @LDS4Life71 This is by no means a simple process it in fact requires a whole system of industry and would require multiple technologies such as prospecting, mining, refining, smelting, casting, gilding, annealing, soldering, and alloying! Such industry could not be carried out as a small operation involving but a few.
It is a very complicated process that requires knowledge & technique sprinkled with the utmost in care.
Where is the evidence of transport roads & infrastructure?
July 24th, 2010 at 10:35 pm
[..YouTube..] @LDS4Life71 Metal production in ancient america?
Where is the evidence of loss of landscape due to mining, processing and transporting the iron ore, coke and limestone?
What fuel without additional process, is capable of producing the required temperatures?
July 24th, 2010 at 10:37 pm
[..YouTube..] SLAG is “indestructible rock” waste byproduct
The iron production of Heeten, dated from the late 2nd to the 5th centuries AD, has been extensively studied. The timespan of the production estimated at 30–35 year. There is 45-50 TONS of slag still there.
At this site the ratio of ore:slag:iron is 1.4:1:0.2 showing th at for every pound of iron produced they produced 5 lbs of waste product.
How would this waste be managed? It would be simple to find such waste sites!
WHERE R THEY?
July 24th, 2010 at 10:39 pm
[..YouTube..] There are no pre Columbian mines nor furnaces nor slag dumps ever found in the US
B H Roberts said “there is nothing on which the later investigators of our American antiquities are more unanimously agreed upon than the matter of the absence of the knowledge of, and hence the non-use of, iron or steel among the natives of America”
July 24th, 2010 at 10:49 pm
[..YouTube..] @LDS4Life71 Your name-calling doesn’t add up. If you came to your testimony other than by critical thinking, then all the science that refutes Mormonism & those who agree with the science shouldn’t matter to you
I saw a guy post that his testimony & the Church makes a positive difference in his life & the science doesn’t matter to him. DONE!
But with you, the science does matter, but you seem to be in denial about that – like a gay hiding he’s gay
I’m Justa: Pro-truth Latter-day Saint
July 25th, 2010 at 1:17 pm
[..YouTube..] @LDS4Life71 Mormon teaching? on Holy scripture
“I believe the Bible as it read when it came from the pen of the original writers. Ignorant translators, careless transcribers, or designing and corrupt priests have committed many errors.” (Teachings of the Prophet Joseph smith, pg.327
I suppose god gave you the correction which god again you have so many to choose from Could be the God of the Bible he couldn’t become god until he read them? So what year did he become god again
July 25th, 2010 at 1:18 pm
[..YouTube..]
Tenth LDS President Joseph Fielding Smith stated in his book, doctrines of Salvation, that there is “No salvation without accepting Joseph Smith. The word “salvation,” used in this context, must? really mean “exaltation” because former Mormon apostle
July 25th, 2010 at 1:19 pm
[..YouTube..] “But the Bible has been robbed of its plainness; many sacred books having been lost, others rejected by the Romish Church, and what few? we have left, were copied and recopied so many times, that it is admitted that almost every verse has been corrupted and mutilated to that degree that any two of them read alike.” (Orson Pratt, The Seer, pg.213)
July 25th, 2010 at 1:19 pm
[..YouTube..] Bruce R. McConkie stated in his book Mormon Doctrine that general salvation is given to everyone regardless of belief. Personal salvation or exaltation to the highest form of Mormon heaven comes only by accepting Joseph Smith as a prophet of god and by following the laws? of the LDS church
July 26th, 2010 at 12:40 pm
[..YouTube..] He obviously had help writing it, and the whole book wasn’t done at the same time. This man was convicted of being a con artist, why does anyone, especialy blacks, follow him???
July 26th, 2010 at 1:54 pm
[..YouTube..] @Redhammer627
Churches love to hold themselves up as shining examples of generosity and sacrifice, but the reality is that their “charitable” acts are under-handed ploys to blackmail the disadvantaged into joining their congregations and tithing away what little extra cash they have.
The LDS send their operatives to far-flung locations, bringing food and water to those with little of either who are then so grateful for the assistance they then feel guilty spurning any Mormon pressure to join.
July 26th, 2010 at 3:57 pm
[..YouTube..] @Dustiniusprimus
“The LDS send their operatives to far-flung locations, bringing food and water to those with little of either who are then so grateful for the assistance they then feel guilty spurning any Mormon pressure to join.”
….and they leave just as quickly. In Mexico and Chile 85% of the converts leave Mormonism. lol
July 27th, 2010 at 8:38 am
[..YouTube..] @LDS4Life71 So you were saying…
The evidence of Industry in the new world; mines, blast furnaces, slag heaps can be seen where?
July 27th, 2010 at 10:28 am
[..YouTube..] @bdplist see you in spirit prison… 1 Peter 3:19
July 27th, 2010 at 10:29 am
[..YouTube..] Depictions of sacred trees in the art of ancient America have fascinated generations of Latter-day Saint scholars because of their possible association with the tree of life mentioned in the Book of Mormon (1 Nephi 8:10–36; 15:21–2).
July 27th, 2010 at 10:42 am
[..YouTube..] The Book of Mormon is a volume of holy scripture comparable to the Bible and is a record of God’s dealings with His chosen people in the New World. The main purpose of the Book of Mormon is “to the convincing of Jew and Gentile that JESUS is the CHRIST, the ETERNAL GOD, manifesting himself unto all nations.” (Book of Mormon Title Page) It was written by ancient American prophets for our day (Mormon 8:35) and is an American testament of the Lord Jesus Christ.
July 27th, 2010 at 11:28 am
[..YouTube..] @LDS4Life71 SO since it is you that has baseless claims & can not answer simple questions, it is I who should be afraid of your non existant LDS god from KOLOB? lol
July 27th, 2010 at 11:30 am
[..YouTube..] The Book of Mormon is a volume about a PAGAN SEX DEITY
according to Doctrine & Covenants all faithful LDS ca have a harem of CONCUBINES in the afterlife AND TEN yes thats right read it again TEN VIRGINS!!!
July 27th, 2010 at 12:40 pm
[..YouTube..] @bdplist He’s not from kolob, moron. You are just plain stupid, and not worth anyones time.
July 27th, 2010 at 12:41 pm
[..YouTube..] @bdplist You are so stupid, and not even worth the waste of flesh that sits at your desk. Too bad your faith is in vain, and you are not born again. You are a complete fool. The book of Mormon is 100% true, and not you, no Missouri, and not anyone for that matter can ever change this fact!!!
July 27th, 2010 at 12:43 pm
[..YouTube..] @bdplist And since God isn’t FROM kolob, moron, you are dumbfounded again with your stupid rhetoric.
July 27th, 2010 at 1:20 pm
[..YouTube..] @LDS4Life71DUH he is not even from NEAR KOLOB
Dont be so GULLIBLE!
July 27th, 2010 at 1:22 pm
[..YouTube..] NOTICE
NO Denial of TEN Virgins & CONCUBINES for faithful LDS men
July 27th, 2010 at 1:31 pm
[..YouTube..] @bdplist Thou shalt not tempt the LORD thy God, but thou shalt serve him.
You are not serving God here, but advocating for the Devil.
July 27th, 2010 at 2:33 pm
[..YouTube..] @LDS4Life71 I advocate the REAL God; not the fable of Joe the one of THREE gods of mormonISM who had to score wives to become a god.
July 27th, 2010 at 2:35 pm
[..YouTube..] @LDS4Life71 Besides it was the DEVIL that took POSSESSION of Joe in the “sacred grove” BOUND his tongue knocked him flat on his back & “entirely overcame” him just like Joe said! Joe became possessed at that point.
July 27th, 2010 at 2:46 pm
[..YouTube..] @bdplist LOL nobody believes your lies.
July 27th, 2010 at 3:50 pm
[..YouTube..] @LDS4Life71 bdplist doesn’t even believe his own lies!
July 27th, 2010 at 3:51 pm
[..YouTube..] Each of you has your own personal challenges, and each of you is on the pioneer trail toward eternal life. You must always remember you are not alone. All over the world the youth of the Church are walking the gospel path with you.”
July 27th, 2010 at 3:52 pm
[..YouTube..] Laura knows that lonely pioneering path in France but now understands that thousands have trekked a similar path years before, some over rocky trails, through hot, dusty paths with limited food supplies and even loss of life. “I could really feel like a pioneer on the trek,” she said. “Sometimes I imagine my life in France is too hard, but now I know I can do it.”
July 27th, 2010 at 7:29 pm
[..YouTube..] @bdplist
I laugh at bible-believing Christians and their hypocritical mockery of Mormonism. The tattered ancient rag from which your own religion is cut has plenty holes of its own, so I ask: Where do you get off?
July 28th, 2010 at 3:02 am
[..YouTube..] Where are the battle grounds?
Where are the ancient civilizations?
Where is the archeological evidence?
Where is the city Bountiful?
THEY DON’T EXIST AND NEVER DID!
July 28th, 2010 at 8:26 am
[..YouTube..] @Dustiniusprimus You forgot to point out ANY holes. What a shocker….
July 28th, 2010 at 1:39 pm
[..YouTube..] @bdplist
It’s hard to know where to begin. For one, I’m relatively confident that corpses can’t spring back to life and go visit with friends before flying skyward – call me crazy. And I just can’t understand why “God’ would feel it necessary to physically manifest and then sacrifice himself in the form of “Jesus” in order to “wash away the sins” of humanity. Talk about self-abuse. Then there’s the OT which doesn’t jibe with the discoveries of archaeology… or geology… or paleontology….
July 28th, 2010 at 3:33 pm
[..YouTube..] @Dustiniusprimus
OTOH I’m relatively confident that something does not spring from nothing.
Where did the laws of physics come from?
Where did the elements come from?
Where did the information encoded in DNA come from?
July 28th, 2010 at 3:35 pm
[..YouTube..] @Dustiniusprimus Specifics..
Why do you have such a problem getting specific?
What OT “blank” does not jibe with what “blank” discovery of arch?
July 28th, 2010 at 4:34 pm
[..YouTube..] 6.For detailed treatments of the limited geography model, see John L. Sorenson’s An Ancient American Setting for the Book of Mormon (Salt Lake City: Deseret Book and FARMS, 1996) and Mormon’s Map (Provo, UT: FARMS, 2000). Sorenson was the first scholar to develop a plausible synthesis between what the Book of Mormon says about the Nephites and Lamanites and the body of scholarship on ancient America.
July 28th, 2010 at 4:34 pm
[..YouTube..] @dutchmanaflyin 6.For detailed treatments of the limited geography model, see John L. Sorenson’s An Ancient American Setting for the Book of Mormon (Salt Lake City: Deseret Book and FARMS, 1996) and Mormon’s Map (Provo, UT: FARMS, 2000). Sorenson was the first scholar to develop a plausible synthesis between what the Book of Mormon says about the Nephites and Lamanites and the body of scholarship on ancient America.
July 28th, 2010 at 6:31 pm
[..YouTube..] I will stand against the mormons, with the Holy spirit within me, I shall stand against you all!!!
July 28th, 2010 at 7:22 pm
[..YouTube..] @LDS4Life71 “Plausible synthesis”? How about digging up Cumorah? My new phrase is “If Mormons did archeology and anthropology research like they do genealogy research they would put themselves out of business in 2 weeks”> What do you say? And why isn’t JS hat mentioned here?
July 28th, 2010 at 7:25 pm
[..YouTube..] @omiolo France abandoned Christianity a while ago. Doing Christian work there is tough. Doing Mormonism there will be very difficult. France is at least as atheistic as Russia. More so. True Christian work could be done in Africa….
July 28th, 2010 at 7:50 pm
[..YouTube..] @IExposeMormonism There are many good Saints in France. The work might be slow but Mormon Christians will never give up willingly.
July 28th, 2010 at 7:51 pm
[..YouTube..] “Our stake right now is focusing on ‘The Family: A Proclamation to the World,’ so we wanted to take something that had that message and bring it to a new generation,” Sister Kent said. She added that the stake chose to include the word “now” from the parade’s theme in part to inspire a sense of urgency for families to have fun together.
July 28th, 2010 at 7:52 pm
[..YouTube..] Many LDS floats focused on how the evolution of technology has helped the Church to grow, especially with an ease of access to uplifting information.
July 28th, 2010 at 7:52 pm
[..YouTube..] The float sponsored by the South Jordan Utah Highland Stake, entitled “Pioneering Personal Guidance,” reflected this idea with a giant Liahona in the back and a handheld GPS device in front with the design of the Oquirrh Mountain Temple prominently featured on its screen. Jon and Jen Fitt, avid GPS users themselves, said the placement of the temple was intentional.
July 28th, 2010 at 7:58 pm
[..YouTube..] @IExposeMormonism Which one?
July 28th, 2010 at 8:01 pm
[..YouTube..] @LDS4Life71 The White Hat, the one most folks refer to. I know he was a man of many hats, how many did he own?
July 28th, 2010 at 8:37 pm
[..YouTube..] “Our stake participated in the temple open house, so we felt we had to put [the temple] on the GPS as something it could guide us to,” Sister Fitt said.
July 28th, 2010 at 8:38 pm
[..YouTube..] The Salt Lake Millcreek Stake presented a float named “Pioneer Spirit: Paper to PC.” The float depicted old-style books and family Bibles alongside teenagers doing research and name indexing on their laptops. Randy Rosencrantz said his stake’s love of and experience with family history makes the float meaningful.
July 28th, 2010 at 9:01 pm
[..YouTube..] No one doubts that the hill where Joseph Smith received the plates is known as Cumorah, but is the hill where the final battles between the Nephites and Lamanites took place another Cumorah? The book of Ether tells us that Omer traveled to this place of the last battles of the Nephites, and that the relatively short duration of this journey would not account for the three thousand miles from Middle America to New York.
cont.
July 28th, 2010 at 9:02 pm
[..YouTube..] A similar journey was undertaken by Limhi’s men, of equally short duration. The description of the geographical features around the final battle site is also at odds with the topography of present-day Cumorah.
July 28th, 2010 at 10:18 pm
[..YouTube..] @LDS4Life71 LDS APOSTLES were WRONG AGAIN THEN
LDS Apostle James E. Talmage, in Articles of Faith, chapter 14, wrote that the Hill Cumorah is in New York. LDS Apostle LeGrand Richards, in A Marvelous Work and a Wonder, chapter 7, stated that Cumorah is in New York. LDS Apostle Bruce R. McConkie, in Mormon Doctrine, under Cumorah, reported that it is in New York.
July 28th, 2010 at 10:19 pm
[..YouTube..] Moreover, the Prophet Joseph Smith himself is on record, definitely declaring the present hill called Cumorah to be the exact hill spoken of in the Book of Mormon. Joseph Fielding Smith, Doctrines of Salvation, Vol.3, Bookcraft, 1956, p.232-43
July 28th, 2010 at 10:20 pm
[..YouTube..] “From the soil of Cumorah’s hill a few miles west of here, Joseph obtained from the angel Moroni the records of a people who anciently inhabited this land; and through the gift and power of God, he translated that record now known as the Book of Mormon.” Spencer W. Kimball
Doctrine and Covenants and Church History DVD Presentations
July 28th, 2010 at 10:21 pm
[..YouTube..] 1978 it was in New york but it has since moved…
“As the fighting neared its end, Mormon gathered the remnant of his forces about a hill which they called Cumorah, located in what is now the western part of the state of New York.” Oct. 1978 Conference Report